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Fook off ....
you are the worst keeper I have ever seen at the lane and I first attended in 1972
Please don't anyone give it the "posts like this destroy a players confidence crap"
Danny if you are not prepared to get rid of him,then clear off yourself.
Rant over, UTB
 



I totally agree. If he's not built his confidence by now then fuck off.
Can it be any more blatant how shit this guy is.
 
Someone should make a tally of how many points this joker has lost us so far. It would be interesting to know our league position if not for his mistakes.
 
People on here can make excuses saying Maguire gave away a stupid freekick, Monty misplaced a pass etc, but other teams
have players doing the same all the time. The difference is their keeper bails out his defence ours is a total liability. He can't
rectify others mistakes and makes loads himself. I'm afraid until he goes we haven't a chance of getting promotion. I genuinely believe he cost us relegation last season and he will cost us promotion this. GET RID NOW DANNY BOY!!!
 
Fook off ....
you are the worst keeper I have ever seen at the lane and I first attended in 1972
Please don't anyone give it the "posts like this destroy a players confidence crap"
Danny if you are not prepared to get rid of him,then clear off yourself.
Rant over, UTB

Mate - you do remember John Hope, don't you?

He let a fairly innoccuous shot trickle between his legs right in front of the kop. I was right at the front of the BLLT by the white railings, and saw the whole of the kop put their hands on their heads in dispair, then heard the away fans go nuts. He was pump.

What match was that Darren/Silent?

pommpey
 
I was on the kop that day....remember the goal clearly but the rest of the match has been wiped. I have a feeling it might have been Liverpool but I'm most probably wrong.
 
I saw that from John Hope - but never with him had you worried about every cross and corner as is the case with Simonsen.

Most telling thing today was seeing Simonsen walk straight from the goal down the tunnel at the end of the game today - didn't look at any of his team-mates, the manager, the fans, just straight off. Even he knows how crap he is a the moment.
 
He needs to be taken out of the firing line, it's becoming ridiculous. If he's in the team on Tuesday that's hardly his fault, and he definitely shouldn't be in the team, but it's him that the crowd will destroy. I'm not happy with DW over this.
 
salary too much to get rid.....no one will have him. We need to find a premier league 3rd choice or play Long
 
I'm not happy with DW over this.

Hardly Wilson's fault. He's inherited a highly paid keeper that no other club in their right mind would take off him. Simmo came from the Premiership and his wages will reflect that, but he plays like a Div2 novice.

Wilson is trying to nurse him back to form because he knows we cannot afford to replace him. As a manager he's been given the proverbial shit sandwich to chew on.

The SUFC bucket has more holes in it than the budget can plug. Either some of our players start surprising us for a change, or we just ride out the legacy of last season and rebuild as and when we can.

Perhaps when the Blackpool lads go back, we can afford a loan keeper to get us through 'til summer.
 
He has to go because evem his defence don't look comfortable with him. Maguire came over to the fans at the end today and whilst he was been applauded fans were shouting that Simmo had to go and he just shrugged his shoulders
 
I take it we ignore the good saves he made today and the bollocks others dropped do we?

He needs taking out of the firing line, but its embarrasing how he gets targeted on his own.

The team were poor today, why not also have a go at Phillips who kept disappearing inside? Why not have a go at the none existant midfield? It wouldn't be the same without a single target to destroy before moving onto the next would it?
 
I take it we ignore the good saves he made today and the bollocks others dropped do we?

He needs taking out of the firing line, but its embarrasing how he gets targeted on his own.

The team were poor today, why not also have a go at Phillips who kept disappearing inside? Why not have a go at the none existant midfield? It wouldn't be the same without a single target to destroy before moving onto the next would it?

Foxy I would agree he made some good saves but he seems to panic at crucial times and you just can't have that in a keeper
 
If you're going to concede a goal, let it be from a set play where the marking system is wrong. Let it be a disputed penalty. Let it be a goal that flies in from 20 yards or a beautifully placed cross at knee height between 6 yard box and penalty spot that begs for an outsretched foot. But don't let it be - repeatedly and more often than not these days - from the keeper failing to use his 6-odd feet plus length of his arms to claim a ball or clear the attack out of the area.

He is a fucking liability. New keeper, please.

pommpey
 



Foxy I would agree he made some good saves but he seems to panic at crucial times and you just can't have that in a keeper

I agree, but you also can't have a non-existant midfield, or a defender who's errors are ignored because he isn't called Simonson.

Simmo will be as disappointed as anyone tonight, do people really think that abusing him will acheive anything?
 
I agree, but you also can't have a non-existant midfield, or a defender who's errors are ignored because he isn't called Simonson.

Simmo will be as disappointed as anyone tonight, do people really think that abusing him will acheive anything?
He is paid to much money to make schoolboy errors.
He is as bad a keeper as I have seen at the lane.Other players get dropped,it's about time he did as well.
I cannot say I have seen him make a save no one else couldn't have made,but I can say I have seen him cost loads of goals no one else would.
If the abuse gets to him and he walks,so what, we won't miss him
 
foxy, we were infront till 90+3 mins, it could be argued maguire gave away needlessly, or some other reason that we didnt close the game, but im sorry there is no defence for a keeper comin to punch and it going less than 10yds and to one of their players.
the keeper who ever he is, is the last line of defence and sure hes going to make mistakes and most of the time his mistakes cost a goal, simmo has a lack of confidence in the air and lets be honest this league we are going to play teams that launch it into our box time after time and simmo is just not good enough in the air, as hes proved many times this season already and last season too.
its been mentioned he does make good saves but in the air he is bobbins and that has cost us, id think almost as many points as his saves have saved us.
how long do we say he made 3 great saves (which is his job) well done, shame his lack of arial ability cost us the goal that lost us points.
does it matter if he makes 20 great saves a game if he undoes all that by costing us the win or 2 points thu flapping at balls high into his box, against 10 men today our outfield should never have allowed them near our net, but if orient pump balls into our box wouldnt you expect a 6"+ keeper with a jump and arms aloft out reach most players?.
he needs removing from the front line until he has worked on his ariel ability which inturn should increase his confidence because while he is shipping goals like he has been the confidence of his team mates will suffer too, better to dent one players confidence than a whole team.

MunXy
 
I agree, but you also can't have a non-existant midfield, or a defender who's errors are ignored because he isn't called Simonson.

Simmo will be as disappointed as anyone tonight, do people really think that abusing him will acheive anything?

People will say that they've paid their money so are entitled to make their feelings felt. And they are quite right in that, no argument. But it would be good if they recognise that by choosing to do it, they have a detrimental effect on the performances of the players they target, and the team as a whole.
 
People will say that they've paid their money so are entitled to make their feelings felt. And they are quite right in that, no argument. But it would be good if they recognise that by choosing to do it, they have a detrimental effect on the performances of the players they target, and the team as a whole.

How much more detrimental can it get than we drop four clean points from two matches we should - and could - have won, barring his failings? We'd be nicely tucked beind the shit from S6 now, putting more pressure on them. A few weeks back they were being wiped on the arses of Stevenage and we were jostling with Charlton Athletic for top spot, and I felt that the season was over as regards Sheffield United and Sheffield Wednesday ... and maybe we'd break away with Charlton and dominate. But a few points dropped ... some results not going our way like Wycombe and we are struggling to stay in touch with automatic and facing a tough battle (and eventual dust up with the pigs) in the playoffs. Given our recent successful history with the playoffs, it would kinda break my fucking heart further to see us go to Wembley once more and fuck it all up - probably at the mercy of our lovely neighbours. It's unforgivable mistakes like Simmo is currently capable of which gives us all this low level of confidence in the team.

pommpey
 
If you don't want your mistakes to be glaring, either learn from them and improve, or don't be a keeper. Not a question of scapegoating - there can be barely a player who hasn't had a load over the years - but we can't go on with a keeper who's only good at half his job.

If only he'd come out as positively beofre he concedes as he does afterwards, none of this would be happening.
 
I take it we ignore the good saves he made today and the bollocks others dropped do we?

He needs taking out of the firing line, but its embarrasing how he gets targeted on his own.

The team were poor today, why not also have a go at Phillips who kept disappearing inside? Why not have a go at the none existant midfield? It wouldn't be the same without a single target to destroy before moving onto the next would it?

Out of interest, of the good stuff that Simonsen did, would you expect anything less from any keeper of Championship quality? I don't like targeting any players, and certainly wouldn't boo Simonsen or indeed any of our players. But there comes a time when you have to accept that things are not right. Other players' minor failings may have led to the goalscoring incidents he has to save. But at the minute, it's his major errors that are seeing the ball in the net.

I feel today we reached a Mark Bunn level of reality - the type of error that after a string of similar errors finally made it apparent that he is a bit of a lost cause. With a more confident keeper, you would inevitably see a more confident back 4. I would happily see us take the financial gamble in retaining Simmo but bringing in a replacement, as if this season is an indication we will be far worse off in the long run by keepin him in the team. It must be a huge burden on the team as a whole to know that they have to score at least 3 goals to ensure they compensate for the inevitable Simonsen error or two
 
I agree, but you also can't have a non-existant midfield, or a defender who's errors are ignored because he isn't called Simonson.

Simmo will be as disappointed as anyone tonight, do people really think that abusing him will acheive anything?

he deserved all the abuse he gets because yet again he has cost us points, if he had any professional dignity he would either look to up his game, or admit that he has past it and walk away from his £10k a week contract.

I had the npleasre of speaking to a Blades legend after the match and he told us the offical line, and said in his words nit mine ' Simonsen is a useless cunt, hje is like a choclate fireguard'.

---------- Post added at 01:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:52 AM ----------

Apologies for the C-bomb, but it was the locldlal lefgends words not mine
 
The thing is...whether Simmo is short of confidence or the worst keeper ever in a United shirt, its all about what does the manager do about it. The club has 'rebuilt' Collins to an extent, and he's now performing (at his level say some, but the improvement is clear). For Simmo, he's still making good saves but has just developed this trait of coming out and flapping and its costing us goals and games. Personally I'd prefer him to stay on his line and let Collins and Harry deal with the crosses, but a kid and a fragile guy isn't the bet either. That triangle in the heart of the defence is weak and error prone, and it will be until we can find so permanent solution, and heckling our own keeper isn't really the answer, is it?

Anyway, what do you do. What are the options.

George Long? Nothing like chucking a young kid into the most pressured position on the pitch to destroy him.
Aksalu? Where he?
Loans? Rumours of third choice PL keepers coming. Hang on minute. Keepers need games to get anywhere near match fit. The game is fast and difficult to read otherwise and from our experience of loan keepers over the last two seasons, anyone remember 'frying pan to fire'? These guys aren't third choice by chance either.
Permanent replacement in January? Mostly down to the finance, I would have thought and who is available that is better. Actually, despite some of the sentiments, 'anyone' will not do. Think of Bunny and tell me you still feel that way. Plus weve got ten games from now till then.

Its a huge headache for the manager, a clear problem that he doesn't have the options to change, and he doesn't have the resources/opportunity to fix completely in January without the real possibility of making it worse still. Thats why the 'Simmo out' bandwagon needs to just back off a bit. We're still 5th in the league (I know we could be top, but as flawed as we are at the back its not a complete disaster). Its really frustrating but everyone at the club will know the problem, especially Wilson and Simmo...
 
If you're going to concede a goal, let it be from a set play where the marking system is wrong. Let it be a disputed penalty. Let it be a goal that flies in from 20 yards or a beautifully placed cross at knee height between 6 yard box and penalty spot that begs for an outsretched foot. But don't let it be - repeatedly and more often than not these days - from the keeper failing to use his 6-odd feet plus length of his arms to claim a ball or clear the attack out of the area.

He is a fucking liability. New keeper, please.

pommpey
Has Simmo always been so undecided/ indecisive? How on earth did he make it to a Premiership team? Is he a wimp,afraid of harming himself?Answere please to Edward Scissor Hands, C/O Bramall Lane.
 
We are discussing two things here:
1) should DW continue to play him - don't think so.
2) should he be booed - not by Blades.
 
I'm not a boo boy and don't get on the back of players at the match. However, I can see why certain people have lost patience with Simmo. To say other players don't get stick for their mistakes can't be right. There have been threads and comments whenever an outfield player has consistently performed under par. The thing with Simmo is that it seems to be happening on a weekly basis.

A goalkeeper's primary job is to collect through balls, come for crosses, organise the defence, fly kick, maybe act as a sweeper and make standard saves - making outstanding saves is a bonus. The argument that Simmo makes a few outstanding saves every now and again doesn’t outweigh the fact that he can't get the standard aspects of goalkeeping right. It's pointless pulling off an impressive, flying save, only to then drop a cross and give away a goal.

Bunn was very good at distributing the ball, collecting crosses and organising the defence. However, he couldn't stop long range, daisy cutter shots. That's why he has not stepped up to the next level.

At this moment in time, Simmo is a liability. I'd love him to prove us all wrong and suddenly be able to command his area and catch the ball but something is obviously wrong, whether it be lack of confidence or whatever. The problem is, he is one of the big earners and we are probably stuck with him.
 
I take it we ignore the good saves he made today and the bollocks others dropped do we?

He needs taking out of the firing line, but its embarrasing how he gets targeted on his own.

The team were poor today, why not also have a go at Phillips who kept disappearing inside? Why not have a go at the none existant midfield? It wouldn't be the same without a single target to destroy before moving onto the next would it?

He made some ok stops, but nothing you wouldn't expect any keeper to save. All keepers are going to make mistakes - Paddy dropped some clangers that cost points, usually from a rush of blood to the head that had him charging out for balls he had no chance of getting - but you accept it if the mistakes are balanced by match-winning performances that get you points you wouldn't have had otherwise. With simonsen the balance is all wrong, with far more points dropped because he spills balls or doesn't deal with crosses than are gained from outrageous saves.
 
Is he playing well? No

Should he be dropped? Yes

Is he the sole reason we are dropping points? No

Is he the current scapegoat for recent form? Yes

Should he be booed by his own fans? No

That's that then. Next issue, please!
 



We are discussing two things here:
1) should DW continue to play him - don't think so.
2) should he be booed - not by Blades.

Don't like booing players, agree what you say Blades should never boo their own, but I am sure its at a crossroads now. I feel DW will have to make the change sooner rather than later, but having seen Long on a few occasions, I would hate to see the lads confidence dented by doing similar mistakes.
DW is in a catch 22 to be sure, and yes I feel sorry for Simmo , he will be gutted and really down on himself.
 

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