Simmonsen if you read this forum

[Jonboy60]

Don't think Simmons should be heckled or booed,but some threaders seem to think that DW as got it under control,and will sort it later rather than sooner,so no point going on here and giving him stick. But frustrations have to be vented somewhere,isn't that part of s24su point.

 

[shorehamview]

Is he playing well? No

Should he be dropped? Yes

Is he the sole reason we are dropping points? No

Is he the current scapegoat for recent form? Yes

Should he be booed by his own fans? No

That's that then. Next issue, please!

What Tamara said, with nobs on.
He's not entirely to blame on his own, although Simmonsen certainly seems to be the current scapegoat, since Monty and Quinn have had their turns. Who will be the next one after him?

 

[DuncDisorderly]

But frustrations have to be vented somewhere,isn't that part of s24su point.

To an extent. Supporting your football club is like marriage, only it often lasts longer.

If its going well, then its great, but it wont always go well. At those times you have to work on it with love, respect, understanding and forgiveness, not just endlessly make demands and criticise the crap out of the other party.

Frankly, if you are not prepared to take the rough and smooth with equal good grace than you might as well just sleep around and really enjoy yourself instead...

 

[Jehovah]

Telling one of our own players to fook off is disgraceful to me. Should he be replaced? yes I think so, he is costing us to many crucial points, but he is employed by the club and gets picked every week. Its not like hes trying to cock up.
One of the most embarassing moments last season was when he let the corner in against Bristol and then got ironically cheered by blades fans after he caught anything.
He has made some truly fantastic saves which have saved us points. Can we please stop with personal abuse of our own players. We can request they be replaced without bombarding them with abuse.

 

[timb2222]

At the end of the game yesterday, I was insistent that Simmo needs to be dropped. However, our only real choice at the moment is Long, as good a prospect he may be I am concerned we would be in a far worse position. Obviously Simmo's command of his area and coming for crosses is terrible, however his shot stopping is very good. Looking back at the Wednesday the save he made onto the bar I doubt Long would have had the same sucess. I have heard Mannone's name being banded about as a loan signing, but according my Arsenal friends he is fine until he is under a high ball. At present I can see no other option, so we may as well get behind Simmo as unfortunately he is the only option we have available.

 

[flyingmonkeyuk]

I watched Orient's goal this morning. It seems to be down to confidence and decision making. He has, yet again, decided to come through half a dozen players to try and claim a ball in the dying minutes. All the coaching staff have to say to him is, "Simmo, until we've put a decent run together and your confidence is up a bit, don't challenge for high balls outside of the six yard box; just let the defenders deal with them."

It will take the pressure off him a bit and stop him backing himself into a corner by making silly mistakes.

 

[Jonboy60]

I watched Orient's goal this morning. It seems to be down to confidence and decision making. He has, yet again, decided to come through half a dozen players to try and claim a ball in the dying minutes. All the coaching staff have to say to him is, "Simmo, until we've put a decent run together and your confidence is up a bit, don't challenge for high balls outside of the six yard box; just let the defenders deal with them."

It will take the pressure off him a bit and stop him backing himself into a corner by making silly mistakes.

Ball comes over,maguire misses it,Collins not knowing what's been said to Simmo,(not listening),leaves it for the goalie,he don't come for it GOAL?crowd gets on his back for not comming out.lose,lose situation.

 

[God]

I take it we ignore the good saves he made today and the bollocks others dropped do we?

He needs taking out of the firing line, but its embarrasing how he gets targeted on his own.

The team were poor today, why not also have a go at Phillips who kept disappearing inside? Why not have a go at the none existant midfield? It wouldn't be the same without a single target to destroy before moving onto the next would it?

Will people give over with the "Good Saves" cack please. He's a goalkeeper (allegedly) ffs, its his JOB to make saves. At the moment he's only doing half a job. If that were you or I we would get the sack.

 

[Darren]

Ball comes over,maguire misses it,Collins not knowing what's been said to Simmo,(not listening),leaves it for the goalie,he don't come for it GOAL?crowd gets on his back for not comming out.lose,lose situation.

He came for the ball and made contact with it. He should have either caught it or punched it to the half way line. Punching it two yards in front of him is unforgiveable

 

[Foxy]

Will people give over with the "Good Saves" cack please. He's a goalkeeper (allegedly) ffs, its his JOB to make saves. At the moment he's only doing half a job. If that were you or I we would get the sack.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be dropped (provided we bring in a better option), just that he shouldn't get the level of abuse he does during the game and he's destined to fail when people ignore things he does well.

It's Harry Maguire's job to defend, but when he drops a bollock hardly anyone mentions it. Similarly when McDonald tosses the ball to the opposition.

 

[Moosie]

It's Harry Maguire's job to defend, but when he drops a bollock hardly anyone mentions it. Similarly when McDonald tosses the ball to the opposition.

Harry is in is first full season, so surely he's allowed a cock up or two as the lad is still learning, you do hear moans and groans, but that's to be expected. McDonald is probably one of the best passers of the ball in the first team at the moment, and the constant "tossing" the ball away to the oposition has been Monty's job for how ever long, so thats why he will get away with it for now.

Simonsen on the other hand has had a fair few years of football behind him, and some of that at the top level. For him to keep dropping clangers every week, while we shouldn't be constantly on his back, it is not something you'd expect from a goalkeeper of his supposed caliber.

 

[Jonboy60]

Harry is in is first full season, so surely he's allowed a cock up or two as the lad is still learning, you do hear moans and groans, but that's to be expected. McDonald is probably one of the best passers of the ball in the first team at the moment, and the constant "tossing" the ball away to the oposition has been Monty's job for how ever long, so thats why he will get away with it for now.

Simonsen on the other hand has had a fair few years of football behind him, and some of that at the top level. For him to keep dropping clangers every week, while we shouldn't be constantly on his back, it is not something you'd expect from a goalkeeper of his supposed caliber.

Spot on moosie couldn't have put it better.UTB.

 

[God]

I'm not saying he shouldn't be dropped (provided we bring in a better option), just that he shouldn't get the level of abuse he does during the game and he's destined to fail when people ignore things he does well.

It's Harry Maguire's job to defend, but when he drops a bollock hardly anyone mentions it. Similarly when McDonald tosses the ball to the opposition.

I think you may find that even his fiercest critics, myself included, have applauded the things he's done well when he's done them. We can forgive the odd mistake , its bound to happen, but its the accumulation of very similar mistakes that are the problem. Yes you are right others DO make mistakes but they can be counted on one hand. My shoes and socks are off counting Simmos.

 

[Foxy]

Harry is in is first full season, so surely he's allowed a cock up or two as the lad is still learning, you do hear moans and groans, but that's to be expected. McDonald is probably one of the best passers of the ball in the first team at the moment, and the constant "tossing" the ball away to the oposition has been Monty's job for how ever long, so thats why he will get away with it for now.

Simonsen on the other hand has had a fair few years of football behind him, and some of that at the top level. For him to keep dropping clangers every week, while we shouldn't be constantly on his back, it is not something you'd expect from a goalkeeper of his supposed caliber.

They are but two examples from Saturday. We've not even begun on the missing midfield or the goal poacher running the ball into the keeper at 1-0 up instead of shooting or squaring the ball to Quinn.

If they are all nervous of the keeper as people keep suggesting, you'd think they'd at least put in a tiny amount of effort at keeping the ball away from him.

I agree with everyone who so far has said that Simmo needs taking out of the team for the moment (provided we can get a replacement), I just don't agree with the fact most of the others get excuses made for them.

A great example was the bloke to our left yesterday... whinging all match that Simmo was rooted to his line and should come out. First time he came out... "fucking hell Simonson you useless bastard, why don't you ever stay on your line".

At the moment, whether he's dropping bollocks or not, he'll never win.

 

[Toronto Blade]

Something needs to be done we will never win tight games if we can't learn how to defend under the pressure of the last ten minutes of a match.
Teams will have had us scouted they know our weaknesses.

 

[MunXy]

so far this season we have had threads on useless strikers, unable to convert chances.
Useless midfielders, couldnt pass water.
useless defenders, couldnt stop traffic if they threw themselves infront of it.
useless keeper, couldnt catch a cold.
players unable to out run a slug.
if you go thru the entire team including maguire they have all taken abuse, some more than others, some justified, some not.
i certainly dont condone fans booing their own players when they do make mistakes, but saying that wouldnt dropping them maybe have the effect of telling them they need to improve some facet of their game thats lacking and until thats improved they wont get picked?
a lot has been said about long not being ready, but has anyone actually got an idea of what areas he needs to work on to be ready?
secondly, i remember when tracey and kelly were 1st n 2nd choice, if either made more than a couple of mistakes the other was in or if other injured we would put in 3rd choice (ala mel rees who no one had heard of, but tho sceptical as blades fans are, we were all impressed with how he got better as he played). why not do that now, can they give away as many points as it appears simmo has, maybe but how will we know if wilson insists on keeping simmo first choice and stroking his ego and confidence after some mistakes kids playing park footy wouldnt make.
maybe simmo needs a good kick up the arse rather than molly coddling to get the best out of him.
drop him and see if A long improves and takes #1 shirt or B he comes in, does ok and causes simo to try and improve enough to force his way back in, C maybe both not good enough so we have to look elsewhere, but atm how will we know for sure.

MunXy

 

[Moosie]

They are but two examples from Saturday. We've not even begun on the missing midfield or the goal poacher running the ball into the keeper at 1-0 up instead of shooting or squaring the ball to Quinn.

If they are all nervous of the keeper as people keep suggesting, you'd think they'd at least put in a tiny amount of effort at keeping the ball away from him.

I agree with everyone who so far has said that Simmo needs taking out of the team for the moment (provided we can get a replacement), I just don't agree with the fact most of the others get excuses made for them.

A great example was the bloke to our left yesterday... whinging all match that Simmo was rooted to his line and should come out. First time he came out... "fucking hell Simonson you useless bastard, why don't you ever stay on your line".

At the moment, whether he's dropping bollocks or not, he'll never win.

While others make mistakes like the one you mention first off, we don't get punished for it, to a certain extent. While when Simonsen or any other goalkeeper for that matter makes a mistake it's highlighted because it normally ends up as a goal.

I'm not defending anyone making mistakes, but we all make them, even the best. People can moan about Porter not squaring the ball, McDonald giving it away, the other team still has a fair bit of work to do before it ends up as a goal.

But as for that bloke shouting that, well, like you say, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

 

[alcoblade]

Hardly Wilson's fault. He's inherited a highly paid keeper that no other club in their right mind would take off him. Simmo came from the Premiership and his wages will reflect that, but he plays like a Div2 novice.

Wilson is trying to nurse him back to form because he knows we cannot afford to replace him. As a manager he's been given the proverbial shit sandwich to chew on.

The SUFC bucket has more holes in it than the budget can plug. Either some of our players start surprising us for a change, or we just ride out the legacy of last season and rebuild as and when we can.

Perhaps when the Blackpool lads go back, we can afford a loan keeper to get us through 'til summer.

None of us know what is or isn't in the kitty. We can only speculate. I can easily see how, after Evans and Cresswell have bled us dry, we're too short to sort to sort the forwards, as it's an expensive position. I'm really struggling to accept that we can't afford a better keeper. And I do hold DW responsible for that.

UTB

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At the moment, whether he's dropping bollocks or not, he'll never win.

I don't agree. If he stops costing us points every other week, the cristicism will stop and he can happily pick up the half a million a year for catching bags of wind that we squander on him. You want to talk about a general lack of responsibility in the team, fair enough. It's up to Wilson to change things as resources become available. That's difficult. Replacing a player who once again clearly cost us points is not nearly as difficult.

UTB

 

[judge]

you would expect a keeper at this level to make mistakes but the ammount of points being cost by an experienced pro is now getting beyond the ridiculous

if it were a youngster you would think fair enough the lad is learning but for a keeper in his 30's to not only be making these mistakes but in crucial times of games is disturbing maybe he is trying to get a move by just being so bad we have to pay up his contract

 

[Jacopo]

What about giving Aksalu a chance? Has anyone seen him play at all? I've not seen anything of him since he signed.

 

[Bladesman]

Not sure Aksalu is with the club anymore?

 

[Jonboy60]

Is long ready for the 1st team,who knows,will we ever find out,or will dw,when a small sum of money is available get another goalie in.that will then (assuming simmo will be second choice) make long 3rd choice. Now the point I'm trying get at is. 1)new keeper does well ,keeps is place. 2)eventually get rid of simmo,making long 2nd choice. 3)In time long gets is chance,we all wonder why he wasn't put in way Before now,but 'hey ho' he's in now so everything's rosey.along comes. a Blackburn,Bolton,wolves etc and mcgreedy bastard sells for peanuts. Why am I talking boollox,that's not going to happen is it,is it.

 

[AlienWoodward]

Telling one of our own players to fook off is disgraceful to me. Should he be replaced? yes I think so, he is costing us to many crucial points, but he is employed by the club and gets picked every week. Its not like hes trying to cock up.
One of the most embarassing moments last season was when he let the corner in against Bristol and then got ironically cheered by blades fans after he caught anything.
He has made some truly fantastic saves which have saved us points. Can we please stop with personal abuse of our own players. We can request they be replaced without bombarding them with abuse.

You're right I apologise for the wording.
Football frustration and beer don't go well together do they.
Sorry Simmo
UTB

 

[Foxy]

Not sure Aksalu is with the club anymore?

He's had a few injuries, last I heard was recovering from a back problem.

Not an option.

 

[brummyblade]

Its hard if you're slaving your guts out every week and barely making enough to get by, and you're watching a bloke getting 10K a week to flap, its not surprising people vent their opinions. And yes we support the team, come rain or shine. But the point is you expect a professional keeper to be able to cope with crosses

 

[tyneblade]

One thing that is very cheap and certainly won't do any harm is to get the poor bastard a decent kit. The shorts look at least two sizes too big, the shirt hangs off him like a bin bag and being forced to go out in that colour can't help anyone's confidence. I was watching Paddy Kenny at the weekend and was struck by how easy it must be to get this right.

 

[Mendi]

needs to be dropped now,to many mistakes by him.

 

[Foxy]

Some may get their wish tonight

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Long in then i take it?

 

[Kenilworth]

Some may get their wish tonight

Eh Up Foxy ITK?