Settling for a point

[dc_blade]

Agree that Wilder can be at fault and make mistakes.
But just because we can play teams off the park, doesn't mean that every time we don't hit that high standard it's Wilder's fault. You look at some teams in this league with outstanding players who never play anyone off the park, that Wilder can get it out of us fairly regularly is a credit to him.

Yeah, definitely see your point. Just felt today we got the approach wrong in the second half. And that we've seen the same issue enough times that I wonder about what Wilder tells them.

 

[SandyMcBlade]

Surprised though Mr Wilder didn't bring Johnson on with Clarke, it's worked before.

 

[SwindonBladeJnr]

I watched a different game to a lot of people it seems.

Don't get me wrong, very for disappointing result in a game that in retrospective was very winnable, but, such is life and such is the championship.

As plenty have already said, the second half was a shame after a decent a first half but my overall feeling was "irritating defeat but further proof that we're a challenger this season". In the first half particularly we looked a class above Derby who will be top 6 challengers.

Fucking annoying result but you have to consider the bigger picture. With every game, win, lose or draw (mostly win!) I grow more confident that we're stronger than last year. The team wilder has put together in a short space of time is nothing short of incredible.

Up the Blades.

 

[Topplayersleave]

Hull we won on 70 mins
Millwall we won on 88 mins
Preston we won on 87 mins
Norwich we won on 93 mins
QPR we won on 65 mins

That’s 5 out of our 8 wins.

Yes, but with the exception of the Hull game all of those games were won earlier if it hadn't been for our fucking about.
This is the point people are making, if we take our foot off the gas we'll concede, EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT FAIL.

There was a 3-1 or 4-1 win there for us if we'd even tried for it instead of adopting the inferior "Ooohhh Frank Lampard manages these, they must be good" attitude.

People say we can't keep up that attacking style for 90 minutes, but I bet the second half was more tiring for them than it would have been if they'd kept possession and kept attacking.

 

[Rodley]

Yes, but with the exception of the Hull game all of those games were won earlier if it hadn't been for our fucking about.
This is the point people are making, if we take our foot off the gas we'll concede, EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT FAIL.

There was a 3-1 or 4-1 win there for us if we'd even tried for it instead of adopting the inferior "Ooohhh Frank Lampard manages these, they must be good" attitude.

People say we can't keep up that attacking style for 90 minutes, but I bet the second half was more tiring for them than it would have been if they'd kept possession and kept attacking.

You’re going to get narrow defeats away from home against an in form Top 6 side. It’s the nature of the Championship.

 

[Topplayersleave]

You’re going to get narrow defeats away from home against an in form Top 6 side. It’s the nature of the Championship.

Yes, and we'll take them on the chin if outplayed. But that was three points not just one point thrown away due to stupidity. The signs were there for the first 19 seconds what we'd set up to do...…..And failed (of course)
And as soon as we got level we could have been 2-1 down 19 seconds after it, because they went straight back into sleep mode rather than going for the kill.
This indicates that achieving a draw was the plan, and on that first half performance it was downright stupidity to sit back and try to achieve it

 

[SWB]

Not tiredness, not fatigue. 2nd minute to 45 minutes played great football, plenty of life in the team. Second half literally
45 minutes onwards the team in general had no pressing & invited them in, that indicates tactics to me. Strange second halves this season.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

We were superb in the first half but, without strikers to take advantage, we had very little to fall back on in the second half. The first half is where we should have put the game to bed.

Go in at HT 2-1, 3-1 and we can sit back and conserve energy. That's what Derby did tonight.



You obviously haven't just listened to Brian The Blade on P & G. That cunt should go to his conservatory, fill a bucket with red wine and put his fucking head in it. For an hour.

Thing is the strikers would have to be 9' tall to get on the crosses.

Great comment about Brian.

 

[Sirius]

We were superb in the first half but, without strikers to take advantage, we had very little to fall back on in the second half. The first half is where we should have put the game to bed.

Go in at HT 2-1, 3-1 and we can sit back and conserve energy. That's what Derby did tonight.



You obviously haven't just listened to Brian The Blade on P & G. That cunt should go to his conservatory, fill a bucket with red wine and put his fucking head in it. For an hour.

Why waste good winewhen boiled piss would serve just as well

 

[Gimli]

I don’t understand what happens at half time - who watches that first half display and thinks that we need to change anything. At times in the first half the passing was as good as anything we’ve seen this season, crisp and one touch, Norwood knocking it about for fun, (although I’d accept we didn’t look like we had loads of cutting edge in the final third) - we totally dominated and fully deserved the equaliser.
Second half was quite frankly a shambles, like watching a different team and we deservedly paid the price.

 

[Revolution]

No, I meant if our strikers functioned properly, shot on sight etc. we could/should have gone in at HT in the lead. That's when the game was there for the taking. Derby absorbed our pressure in the first half whereas we blew ourselves out. The rest is history.

If you want to blame someone for not putting the game away in the first half, you can blame Stevens and Freeman, amongst others. Their crossing was very poor. Sharp and McGoldrick frequently got into good positions and were not delivered the ball. It was over hit on several occasions. Our corners were poor too. I'm not sure why that is the forwards' fault.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Enda and Freeman especially looked absolutely shattered, our team looked devoid of energy in the second half, this is down to the management.

It’s down to not using the squad.

I predicted that this what would happen.
It’s impossible to play a high tempo pressing game using the same players week in week out.
However to be fair to Wilder, he’s only done what 90% of fans wanted by playing the same team over and over.

Also to be fair we’re sounding like arrogant Wolves fans.
Has anyone thought that maybe Derby played well in the 2nd and deserve credit for that.

 

[Eric Cartman]

It’s down to not using the squad.

I predicted that this what would happen.
It’s impossible to play a high tempo pressing game using the same players week in week out.
However to be fair to Wilder, he’s only done what 90% of fans wanted by playing the same team over and over.

Also to be fair we’re sounding like arrogant Wolves fans.
Has anyone thought that maybe Derby played well in the 2nd and deserve credit for that.

They deserve credit no doubt but they only picked up because we dropped off

 

[Topplayersleave]

If you want to blame someone for not putting the game away in the first half, you can blame Stevens and Freeman, amongst others. Their crossing was very poor. Sharp and McGoldrick frequently got into good positions and were not delivered the ball. It was over hit on several occasions. Our corners were poor too. I'm not sure why that is the forwards' fault.

I understand what you're saying but our goal came when we'd dominated the play.
Crosses were going over the heads of our strikers when they should have been played along the ground, they were going along the ground when they should have been played in the air.
But our equaliser came because when you are so far on top a good decision will be made eventually and you'll get one final ball right

Wed have got another one or two right as well If we'd kept the same level of patience and control in the second half

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

We looked a bit sloppy at times and it wasn't a great second half. But Derby are a decent side at this level, and we are not going to streamroller top six rivals (as some people seem to expect).

But I think the international break needs to take some of the blame. Stop, start is no good for us. We seem to always struggle first game back after the international break (as we do for the first few games of the season). We are definitely a momentum side.

 

[Booker4]

It wasn't a bad performance and if we'd scored in the second half and ran out winners then we'd all be saying how well we played. In the second half Derby as the home side were naturally going to be more attacking minded. We didn't sit everyone behind for a point but we didn't attack as much either, but a point would have been a good result. Its fine margins and I'm not concerned by yesterdays performance. It puts slightly more pressure on Tuesday's home game but Stoke are hardly on form are they.

I think also that our fans need to remember we played against a decent Derby team last night and although we're also a decent team we have no divine right to win games and the game looked like heading for a draw. Yes they'll be fans that say we should have attacked more but if we'd gone for it too much and conceded then how many fans would be saying we went for it too much!

 

[Addison]

We didn't change tactics at the start of the second half Derby did. Second half was a mirror image of the Bristol City game a few weeks ago. They pressed us higher up the pitch restricting our wing backs and brought their pacy players into the game. When this tactical stalemate occurs CW's first thought seems to be to bring Sharp and Duffy off. He did exactly the same at Bristol City when the scores were level and we let them gain ground and take the initiative and score a late goal - ground hog day after dominating the first half.

It was clear the three players struggling the most in the second half were the ones on international duty. Freeman, Stevens and Norwood. Maybe the travelling and change of training regime was a factor. Replacing them would have been better options leaving Sharp and Duffy on.

 

[Speedracer]

It was clear the three players struggling the most in the second half were the ones on international duty. Freeman, Stevens and Norwood. Maybe the travelling and change of training regime was a factor. Replacing them would have been better options leaving Sharp and Duffy on.

I have to agree with this, it was also my first thought as soon as I saw what was happening.

 

[GrayBlade]

We were superb in the first half but, without strikers to take advantage, we had very little to fall back on in the second half. The first half is where we should have put the game to bed.

Go in at HT 2-1, 3-1 and we can sit back and conserve energy. That's what Derby did tonight.



You obviously haven't just listened to Brian The Blade on P & G. That cunt should go to his conservatory, fill a bucket with red wine and put his fucking head in it. For an hour.

Totally agree that we should have put the game to bed in the first half, that’s where we lost it, but I think the reason we didn’t was down to the shocking final ball, not the strikers. Sharp in particular got into some great positions just to see the ball fly way over his head time and again, no wonder he looked so pissed off, he’s never going to compete in the air. One of the few times time we hit it low we scored.

 

[GrayBlade]

We didn't change tactics at the start of the second half Derby did. Second half was a mirror image of the Bristol City game a few weeks ago. They pressed us higher up the pitch restricting our wing backs and brought their pacy players into the game. When this tactical stalemate occurs CW's first thought seems to be to bring Sharp and Duffy off. He did exactly the same at Bristol City when the scores were level and we let them gain ground and take the initiative and score a late goal - ground hog day after dominating the first half.

It was clear the three players struggling the most in the second half were the ones on international duty. Freeman, Stevens and Norwood. Maybe the travelling and change of training regime was a factor. Replacing them would have been better options leaving Sharp and Duffy on.

Spot on with most of that mate although I personally think that we took our foot off the gas as soon as we scored, not after half time.

I totally agree with the poor subs, both wingbacks should have been replaced. Freeman looked like he’d spent the week on the piss, I was surprised Baldock wasn’t in the squad, and Coutts should have replaced Norwood like for like. Wilder seems intent on proving that ‘it’s only a matter of time’ for Clarke but he isn’t even getting into good positions now, he looks shot, and to bring Washington on as well meant that we were pinning our hopes on two players who haven’t scored a goal between them this season.