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This cropped up elsewhere - thought it might be worth a thread of its own.

FWIW I really like what I've seen of him. I'm posting this for info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selahattin_Baki

Selahattin Baki
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Selahattin Baki
Born Selahattin Baki
Istanbul, Turkey
Occupation Businessman
Selahattin Baki is a Turkish businessman.

§Business career[edit]

Baki is an advisor to Saudi Prince, Businessman and Billionaire Abdullah bin Musa'ed bin Abdulaziz Al Saud.[1] From May 2001 to May 2005, Baki worked in Sales and Marketing for 'Antoine Makzume', an international sea transportation company.[2] In March 2007 he was made an advisor to Prince Abdullah and in March in 2009, Baki took on the role of Sales and Marketing in Nanotechnology for 'Saudi Environmental Projects Company'.[2] In September 2013, Baki joined the board of Directors at Blades Leisure Ltd after Prince Abdullah bought at 50% share in Sheffield United;[3][4] Baki soon revealed plans for Sheffield United to establish business ties with Saudi club Al-Hilal FC and Turkish club Fenerbahçe.[5] In Summer 2014, Baki helped arrange a charity friendly match with Fenerbahçe to celebrate the 125th Anniversary of Sheffield United with money from the match going to help the victims of the Soma mine disaster in Turkey.[6][7] On 10 November 2014, Sheffield United announced that Baki had been appointed the club's International Football Co-ordinator with the duty to "utilise global contacts, assist in identifying overseas football talent opportunities and to bring in international sponsorships for the attention of the Club's management".[8][9]

§Hooliganism accusations[edit]

Baki is a lifelong Fenerbahçe fan.[10] In Baki's early life, he was a football hooligan and a senior member of the notorious football firm associated with Fenerbahçe called 'Kill For You'.[11][12] In 2006 Baki was interviewed by Danny Dyer for TV documentary The Real Football Factories International. In the interview he boasted about "non-stop action" and stated that "sometimes knives start talking".[13] In November 2013, Sheffield United defended Baki's past with Sheffield United PLC Director James Phipps stating "The prince is aware that Mr Baki is a fervent supporter of Fenerbahce and that, in younger days, the fervency of his support may have overcome his better judgement... Indeed, Mr Baki has built a reputation as a well-regarded, law-abiding businessman and has earned his place as a trusted advisor to His Royal Highness".[14]
 

This cropped up elsewhere - thought it might be worth a thread of its own.

FWIW I really like what I've seen of him. I'm posting this for info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selahattin_Baki

Selahattin Baki
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Selahattin Baki
Born Selahattin Baki
Istanbul, Turkey
Occupation Businessman
Selahattin Baki is a Turkish businessman.

§Business career[edit]

Baki is an advisor to Saudi Prince, Businessman and Billionaire Abdullah bin Musa'ed bin Abdulaziz Al Saud.[1] From May 2001 to May 2005, Baki worked in Sales and Marketing for 'Antoine Makzume', an international sea transportation company.[2] In March 2007 he was made an advisor to Prince Abdullah and in March in 2009, Baki took on the role of Sales and Marketing in Nanotechnology for 'Saudi Environmental Projects Company'.[2] In September 2013, Baki joined the board of Directors at Blades Leisure Ltd after Prince Abdullah bought at 50% share in Sheffield United;[3][4] Baki soon revealed plans for Sheffield United to establish business ties with Saudi club Al-Hilal FC and Turkish club Fenerbahçe.[5] In Summer 2014, Baki helped arrange a charity friendly match with Fenerbahçe to celebrate the 125th Anniversary of Sheffield United with money from the match going to help the victims of the Soma mine disaster in Turkey.[6][7] On 10 November 2014, Sheffield United announced that Baki had been appointed the club's International Football Co-ordinator with the duty to "utilise global contacts, assist in identifying overseas football talent opportunities and to bring in international sponsorships for the attention of the Club's management".[8][9]

§Hooliganism accusations[edit]

Baki is a lifelong Fenerbahçe fan.[10] In Baki's early life, he was a football hooligan and a senior member of the notorious football firm associated with Fenerbahçe called 'Kill For You'.[11][12] In 2006 Baki was interviewed by Danny Dyer for TV documentary The Real Football Factories International. In the interview he boasted about "non-stop action" and stated that "sometimes knives start talking".[13] In November 2013, Sheffield United defended Baki's past with Sheffield United PLC Director James Phipps stating "The prince is aware that Mr Baki is a fervent supporter of Fenerbahce and that, in younger days, the fervency of his support may have overcome his better judgement... Indeed, Mr Baki has built a reputation as a well-regarded, law-abiding businessman and has earned his place as a trusted advisor to His Royal Highness".[14]

How tall is he , does he own a pair of black boots and can he kick a football .:D

UTB
 
the duty to "utilise global contacts, assist in identifying overseas football talent opportunities and to bring in international sponsorships for the attention of the Club's management".[8][9]


That's the bit that excited me. It might take time but I'm disappointed it has not turned up some gems for us
 
On 10 November 2014, Sheffield United announced that Baki had been appointed the club's International Football Co-ordinator with the duty to "utilise global contacts, assist in identifying overseas football talent opportunities and to bring in international sponsorships for the attention of the Club's management".[

Ha, ha, ha ha.

So, his net output, so far (assuming he is drawing a wage and expenses) is ...

Keep telling you lot. Clough is not our problem.

Too many managers under McCabe, so much under achieving shit. And jobs for the boys.

pommpey
 
We are a league one side, is it really worth wasting time working on "utilise global contacts, assist in identifying overseas football talent opportunities and to bring in international sponsorships for the attention of the Club's management"?
 
We are a league one side, is it really worth wasting time working on "utilise global contacts, assist in identifying overseas football talent opportunities and to bring in international sponsorships for the attention of the Club's management"?

Unfortunately JE it's esential in the modern game that we do those things! I would like it to be just about football once again but money owns the game now and without all the above we will be a small fish in a big pond.
 
We are a league one side, is it really worth wasting time working on "utilise global contacts, assist in identifying overseas football talent opportunities and to bring in international sponsorships for the attention of the Club's management"?
Yes.
 

And the evidence is ... where?

Serious question. Where is the tangible benefit of employing this bloke.

Working out, please, not, "ah, well, it's because ... " followed by some watery business-speak. We can all do that.

Let's see the proof, not the conjecture. Show me the benefits over this season, where we are currently licking our wounds after a home buttfucking from a former Conference side as to be overall benefit of this bloke.

Show us. Go ...

pommpey
 

Unfortunately JE it's esential in the modern game that we do those things! I would like it to be just about football once again but money owns the game now and without all the above we will be a small fish in a big pond.
I just question the foresight in making this public announcement when we are a very mediocre third tier English side rather than a top end championship/premiership club.

That said this announcement was brought to us by the same media team that released the worldwide smash hit "The Ched Evans Saga" previously in the fall...
 
The question was asked as if there is only one possible answer and that anything else was obviously madness. The businessmen at Bramall Lane think they need someone holding this position. It's rather up to you to explain why they don't. Which I've yet to see, by the way.
 
The question was asked as if there is only one possible answer and that anything else was obviously madness. The businessmen at Bramall Lane think they need someone holding this position. It's rather up to you to explain why they don't. Which I've yet to see, by the way.

But as we saw (and as is alluded to above), the "businessmen at Bramall Lane" got it spectaculary wrong over the Evans farrago.

Isn't the reality that very few outside the immediate Sheffield area gives a flying fuck about SUFC as long as they are in the 3rd Division. Hence one would have thought that the money spent on exploring these almost ceratinly non existent global opportunities would be better spent on trying to get the club out of the 3rd division when these "global contacts" may then become interested.
 
Personally I'd say the militant feminists and media got it wrong.

Whether or not Evans should have been allowed to resume his career is not the issue I was alluding to. The manner in which the club handled the whole thing was appalling: week one "we will not bow to mob rule"; week two "we are bowing to mob rule".
 
Whether or not Evans should have been allowed to resume his career is not the issue I was alluding to. The manner in which the club handled the whole thing was appalling: week one "we will not bow to mob rule"; week two "we are bowing to mob rule".
But still you're blaming the victim not the perpetrator.
 
But still you're blaming the victim not the perpetrator.

Who is talking about blame? I am talking about competence. What one would expect of hard headed business people is an ability to consider an actually existing situation in all it's facets and to evolve a reasonable plan to deal with the situation as it is, not as one would like it to be.

On that basis the SUFC Board were spectaculary incompetent.
 
The question was asked as if there is only one possible answer and that anything else was obviously madness. The businessmen at Bramall Lane think they need someone holding this position. It's rather up to you to explain why they don't. Which I've yet to see, by the way.

Well I don't think we need to be paying someone a wage to "utilise global contacts, assist in identifying overseas football talent opportunities and to bring in international sponsorships for the attention of the Club's management" as primarily we are a league one club that struggles to get any exposure on national media before about 1am on a Sunday morning, and then for all of 5 seconds (save for the odd cup run).

Seriously what value will there be in any international spnsorships? Surely if you want to increse revenue at this moment you would be better placed at this moment in time trying to draw in sponsors from a more local/national market.

It smacks of John who owns the grocers in my village, stumping up loads of cash to go to a Californian food exibition to try and extol the virtues of his home grown cherry tomatoes. While is business at home continues to go down the swanny.

Call me old fashioned and a miserable git but I would rather, at this moment in time, have all our resources firmly aimed at getting out of this god forsaken league and I don't see how Baki's role is contributing to that in the slightest.

As for identifying overseas football talent. Personally I would rather have a scouting network made up of ex professionals and people who know what they are looking for, rather than a newsagent from Duffield scouring Scotland and an ex Turkish top boy taking on the world.
 
But as we saw (and as is alluded to above), the "businessmen at Bramall Lane" got it spectaculary wrong over the Evans farrago.

Isn't the reality that very few outside the immediate Sheffield area gives a flying fuck about SUFC as long as they are in the 3rd Division. Hence one would have thought that the money spent on exploring these almost ceratinly non existent global opportunities would be better spent on trying to get the club out of the 3rd division when these "global contacts" may then become interested.

Snap Darren!

You beat me to it but agree entirely, started my post then got caught up at work before finishing it so apologies for basically repeating your argument!
 
But as we saw (and as is alluded to above), the "businessmen at Bramall Lane" got it spectaculary wrong over the Evans farrago.

Isn't the reality that very few outside the immediate Sheffield area gives a flying fuck about SUFC as long as they are in the 3rd Division. Hence one would have thought that the money spent on exploring these almost ceratinly non existent global opportunities would be better spent on trying to get the club out of the 3rd division when these "global contacts" may then become interested.

Can't press 'like' enough on this one.

pommpey
 
Who is talking about blame? I am talking about competence. What one would expect of hard headed business people is an ability to consider an actually existing situation in all it's facets and to evolve a reasonable plan to deal with the situation as it is, not as one would like it to be.

On that basis the SUFC Board were spectaculary incompetent.
There were certainly facets which we as fans could see that the board clearly didn't. In their defence, the viral nature of the backlash was unprecedented and having board-members based in different time-zones did us no favours in responding to quickly-unfolding events. They seemed to me like dinosaurs in a digital-age.
 
There were certainly facets which we as fans could see that the board clearly didn't. In their defence, the viral nature of the backlash was unprecedented and having board-members based in different time-zones did us no favours in responding to quickly-unfolding events. They seemed to me like dinosaurs in a digital-age.

Indeed.

Thing was though, it did not take a genius to realise that re-signing him was a shitstorm waiting to happen. The petition was started six months before his release and pressure was mounting all the time up until the release date. A firm decision should have been taken and announced before his release. In my view, and leaving out any issues of morality and right and wrong, it should have been obvious that signing him would be far more trouble than he was worth (as someone said, he was hardly Messi), and a decision should have been made and announced before his release that he was not being re-signed.

Ironiocally enough, it would appear that these hard headed business people let their emotions run away with them - it looks like they felt Evans was hard done by and felt an obligation to him and let that trump a reasoned analysis of the situation. All very noble in the way, but it does show (which was my original point) that you can't trust them to make decisions unswayed by sentiment and irrationality.
 

Thing was though, it did not take a genius to realise that re-signing him was a shitstorm waiting to happen.
That's true, but I do think the landscape changed during his time in prison. "Twitterstorms" were nowhere near as powerful 3 years ago and getting support for a cause and global exposure wasn't as easy as it is now, and feminism seemed to move up a gear certainly from a pop-culture point of view (I can't imagine Robin Thicke would have such an easy ride releasing his single today). It's our board's failure to gauge the magnitude of what they were up against that I think caused the problems.

it looks like they felt Evans was hard done by and felt an obligation to him and let that trump a reasoned analysis of the situation. All very noble in the way, but it does show (which was my original point) that you can't trust them to make decisions unswayed by sentiment and irrationality
Because I believe the situation was so unprecedented (you may well disagree) I don't think it's fair to judge their entire decision-making ability on that mistake.
 

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