Season tickets?

[EddieColquhoun]

If the rumoured numbers are in the right ball park we're about 1800 ahead.

Added to that, we're expecting to sell a fair few more and the inbreds have stopped selling theirs.

 

[JJBlade]

The irony is that it was the 'too much ambition" that has cost us in recent years.

When we were debated from the PL many thought we'd down size and consolidate but we entered our most ambitious era the club has ever known. We were determined to be promoted back to the PL no matter what the cost was.

So we appointed at great expense, the dream team of Robson and Kidd who both had great cv of gaining promotion from the CC and doing what Warnock couldn't do by keeping a team in the PL.
McCabe was thinking BIG and wanted us to be a household name throughout the world.
Robson was a big name player able to attract the top players. Kidd was one of the most highly rated assistant managers in world football. We changed our style to a slow keep possession passing game and it was a culture shock compared to fast direct Warnock style.

The other big idea which backfired was the world domination theme of buying a club in China and Hungary and having very close links with a club in Belgium, Australia and even an attempted link in Brazil. Good ideas in theory.

The other irony is that last season is the smallest budget in years instead of throwing money at appointing the best managers for league 1 and backing the manager each time. We didn't back the manager as much as previous seasons but still won the league at a canter.

Due to recent experiences no wonder McCabe is cautious about stetching finances and showing too much ambition.

The boardroom often talk about ambition and often big themselves up about backing various managers

The problem is they are frightened to add players of substance.
So we end up with 2 sub standard players because the boardroom won't sign two of the required quality, then we end up with three or four more sub standard players after the original two sub standard players were proven to be sub standard

For all our supposed ambition how many times have we signed a player that really made everyone sit up and take notice ?

I'd say James Beattie 10 years ago, nothing before, nothing since.
Even as a Premier League club not one single signing that made the fans go WOW

I'd have preferred two or three immediate first team signings this season, A couple of players that would improve us immediately rather than half a dozen unproven squad players

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Me too
I wouldn't say I was as keen a fan nowadays

But I used to be home and away every single week, pre season friendlies, Anglo Scottish Cup, Zenith Data Systems Cup

You name it I was there

But something just clicked in me a few years ago,
It was a " This is as good as it's ever going to get " moment and I just stopped being so keen, and it wasn't that difficult for me.

Some time after I moved away from Sheffield because of work, I was gone for seven years and United barely crossed my mind because they didnt deserve to be

I will never be as keen a fan as I once was unless the club do something to win me back.

You've been moaning on Rumour Mill for weeks that the club should throw an extra few hundred grand to get Leonard and Holmes. Do you not think it's ironic that you won't support the club by sticking your own hand in your pocket?

 

[Maidenhead]

The boardroom often talk about ambition and often big themselves up about backing various managers

The problem is they are frightened to add players of substance.
So we end up with 2 sub standard players because the boardroom won't sign two of the required quality, then we end up with three or four more sub standard players after the original two sub standard players were proven to be sub standard

Replace your won't with can't.

When will you ever understand that our board don't have the financial clout to match your ambition, so I wouldn't worry about having to buy that season ticket any time soon.

 

[alcoblade]

If the rumoured numbers are in the right ball park we're about 1800 ahead.

Not that I could give a monkeys.

No points for bums on seats, whether they're actually there or not.

You might not give a monkeys , but you'd surely love witnessing the meltdown on porktalk if it panned out.

They're already lining the excuses up - apparetly they will all be free, or kids tickets.

 

[JJBlade]

Our board have backed there manager, its the manager who wasn't good enough, been hearing this about the board for donkeys years, the old favourite was " these directors should get there hand in there pockets" classic.

Yes I agree with that to a certain extent

But not releasing funds for one or two players of proven ability often leads managers to go down the route of packing the squad with crap.

Our managers over the last few years have gone down the route of assuming that older players with Premier League experience must still have something to offer, when in fact they haven't.
So from that point of view they have been backed.

My comments about United boardrooms was more targetted towards past boardrooms

I wasn't necessarily singling out this particular boardroom

 

[alcoblade]

You've been moaning on Rumour Mill for weeks that the club should throw an extra few hundred grand to get Leonard and Holmes. Do you not think it's ironic that you won't support the club by sticking your own hand in your pocket?

I've made exactly this point to some before. Apparently that's the same is boasting about being a "bigger Blade".

 

[Maidenhead]

You might not give a monkeys , but you'd surely love witnessing the meltdown on porktalk if it panned out.

They're already lining the excuses up - apparetly they will all be free, or kids tickets.

Oh yes, I'd have a little smug self satisfied smile to myself but I wouldn't make a song and dance about it, unlike the smug, self satisfied wankers over there

 

[JJBlade]

So all you really want is a tuna man to throw billions at it


# deluded

No, mega money is not always required

Our club has missed out on dozens and dozens of players over the years that have since gone on to achieve better things

Many of these players were available for peanuts, our boardroom decided that peanuts was too much so other teams offered peanuts plus a walnut and got them instead

 

[Seanshoreham]

Add in the fact that there quite a few 'floating fans' in the city, its surprising how many non Blades/Pigs move to this city for work, study etc. and our reasonable pricing policy should attract a few of these

 

[Roygbiv]

Our decision making when in positions of power has been dreadful. 4 stick out to me

1. Bringing in the wrong players in the January transfer window in our Prem season. We bought completely unproven players "for the future" when the season we were in was the most important in our recent history. I recall us not paying £4m for Nugent. I'm not saying that would have been a wise investment long term but we went down by one goal. We ended up going into the last game with Stead and Nade up front. A great relection on our ambition that window.

2 Coming down from The Premier League we could have attracted any manager outside the top flight but we went with managerial joke figure Robson. Kidd was already at the club under Warnock so it's likely he would have stuck around anyway. The one time we threw money at a manager and we chose someone with such a shoddy record. It's no surprise he never managed again after us barring a disasterous spell with the Thailand national team.

3. Another big mistake was being inside the Play off positions and selling Beattie without replacing him correctly. This ended up fucking us over as we had one fit forward for the play off final. Craig Beattie.

4. Presuming Ched would get off and not bringing in a serious understudy. This lack of planning cost us promotion and only now have we got over it

 

[JJBlade]

Never been a Blade then! The sort of "supporter" we can do without.

Stop being so childish
The club has made massive mistakes at boardroom level for generations

These mistakes have cost us enormously in terms of what we could have been

 

[Davalon]

Our decision making when in positions of power has been dreadful. 4 stick out to me

1. Bringing in the wrong players in the January transfer window in our Prem season. We bought completely unproven players "for the future" when the season we were in was the most important in our recent history. I recall us not paying £4m for Nugent. I'm not saying that would have been a wise investment long term but we went down by one goal. We ended up going into the last game with Stead and Nade up front. A great relection on our ambition that window.

2 Coming down from The Premier League we could have attracted any manager outside the top flight but we went with managerial joke figure Robson. Kidd was already at the club under Warnock so it's likely he would have stuck around anyway. The one time we threw money at a manager and we chose someone with such a shoddy record. It's no surprise he never managed again after us barring a disasterous spell with the Thailand national team.

3. Another big mistake was being inside the Play off positions and selling Beattie without replacing him correctly. This ended up fucking us over as we had one fit forward for the play off final. Craig Beattie.

4. Presuming Ched would get off and not bringing in a serious understudy. This lack of planning cost us promotion and only now have we got over it

Bang on the money imho.

 

[JJBlade]

Replace your won't with can't.

When will you ever understand that our board don't have the financial clout to match your ambition, so I wouldn't worry about having to buy that season ticket any time soon.

No they CAN'T
Even more reason not to waste money on a dozen sub standard unfit, past injured players who nobody else wants

And yes I do blame our past managers for this as well

Every player has to be value for money, it won't take millions for us to become a good Championship team this season.

And it won't take millions next season for us to be a very good Championship team the season after

But there has to be some risk taken somewhere along the line

 

[JJBlade]

You've been moaning on Rumour Mill for weeks that the club should throw an extra few hundred grand to get Leonard and Holmes. Do you not think it's ironic that you won't support the club by sticking your own hand in your pocket?

I've supported the club for long enough

And if a drastic fans buyout was the only way to keep the club alive (like Portsmouth) for instance I would contribute very generously

 

[alcoblade]

I've supported the club for long enough

And if a drastic fans buyout was the only way to keep the club alive (like Portsmouth) for instance I would contribute very generously

I suspect your interest has dried up, to a degree, with age. It's a natural thing I've noticed amongst many I know. Life commitments get in the way, and your hero's now could be your kids. Difficult to fight.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

3. Another big mistake was being inside the Play off positions and selling Beattie without replacing him correctly. This ended up fucking us over as we had one fit forward for the play off final. Craig Beattie.

I'm sure I read that Billy Sharp had said he was fit but out of favour with Blackwell.

 

[bladesmanluke]

I'm sure I read that Billy Sharp had said he was fit but out of favour with Blackwell.

That sounds familiar. Oh for what could've been

 

[EddieColquhoun]

I've supported the club for long enough

And if a drastic fans buyout was the only way to keep the club alive (like Portsmouth) for instance I would contribute very generously

You argued and argued that the club should bid an extra £200k for Ryan Leonard. Are you not prepared to contribute to that?

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

McCabe's lack of ambition is clear for all to see. However, it's also fair to say that whilst a very rich man, he doesn't have the wealth of most other owners in the Championship and Premier League. The best thing would be for him to put all his efforts into finding a buyer who can take us forward. It's not as if he even seems to enjoy the role - as he always sounds fed up and aggressive when interviewed.

Not surprised, when, as a true Blade who has put millions into the club, he is desribed as having a lack of ambition.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

The boardroom often talk about ambition and often big themselves up about backing various managers

The problem is they are frightened to add players of substance.
So we end up with 2 sub standard players because the boardroom won't sign two of the required quality, then we end up with three or four more sub standard players after the original two sub standard players were proven to be sub standard

For all our supposed ambition how many times have we signed a player that really made everyone sit up and take notice ?

I'd say James Beattie 10 years ago, nothing before, nothing since.
Even as a Premier League club not one single signing that made the fans go WOW

I'd have preferred two or three immediate first team signings this season, A couple of players that would improve us immediately rather than half a dozen unproven squad players

So presumably you objected last close season to us signing Jake Wright, Caolan Lavery, Jack O`Connell and John Fleck ?

 

[JJBlade]

You argued and argued that the club should bid an extra £200k for Ryan Leonard. Are you not prepared to contribute to that?

All fans contribute
Along with sponsorship, other revenue streams and TV money

But in your world only the boardroom contribute anything

You can criticise my views all you like, I get more likes for my posts than you ever will whilst you remain stuck in the 1970's good old days

The club has been piss poor at boardroom level for decades, and the reason why the club had achieved fuck all for 90 years

 

[JJBlade]

So presumably you objected last close season to us signing Jake Wright, Caolan Lavery, Jack O`Connell and John Fleck ?

I didn't say WOW either

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

I didn't say WOW either

???????

 

[derfblade.3]

All fans contribute
Along with sponsorship, other revenue streams and TV money

But in your world only the boardroom contribute anything

You can criticise my views all you like, I get more likes for my posts than you ever will whilst you remain stuck in the 1970's good old days

The club has been piss poor at boardroom level for decades, and the reason why the club had achieved fuck all for 90 years

Wow! (sorry) you count your likes?. Have a like from me......there you go.

 

[JJBlade]

Wow! (sorry) you count your likes?. Have a like from me......there you go.

Cheers
And no I don't count them
Well not that often

 

[Pinchy]

When I see a brilliant response like this re. season tickets sales, it makes me wonder as I often have (at the risk of sounding pig-like)

Say what you like! There are far too many on here who think we should condition our views by reference to what the Pigs say or think.

Not me. No fucks given.

We're massive.

 

[Pinchy]

You don't class last season as enough?

Precisely. Okay, it was third division, but the quality of football was way above that. Despite the noise made by an unsophisticated minority, that matters.

 

[Pinchy]

Our decision making when in positions of power has been dreadful. 4 stick out to me

1. Bringing in the wrong players in the January transfer window in our Prem season. We bought completely unproven players "for the future" when the season we were in was the most important in our recent history. I recall us not paying £4m for Nugent. I'm not saying that would have been a wise investment long term but we went down by one goal. We ended up going into the last game with Stead and Nade up front. A great relection on our ambition that window.

2 Coming down from The Premier League we could have attracted any manager outside the top flight but we went with managerial joke figure Robson. Kidd was already at the club under Warnock so it's likely he would have stuck around anyway. The one time we threw money at a manager and we chose someone with such a shoddy record. It's no surprise he never managed again after us barring a disasterous spell with the Thailand national team.

3. Another big mistake was being inside the Play off positions and selling Beattie without replacing him correctly. This ended up fucking us over as we had one fit forward for the play off final. Craig Beattie.

4. Presuming Ched would get off and not bringing in a serious understudy. This lack of planning cost us promotion and only now have we got over it

Above all those, allowing Warnock to manage in the Premier League, where he's always been out of his depth.

That's why he likes the Championship, him.

 

[Tyler Durden]

You can criticise my views all you like, I get more likes for my posts than you ever will

How cute.