Scott Parker

[Guesty]

Yeah, this was my thinking - hence I hadn't commented yet because I was trying to figure out what I was missing given other peoples negative responses.

(What am I missing?)

The massive, massive budgets he had both times, presumably.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Reminds me quite a lot of Danny Wilson - excellent at interviews and therefore securing roles, gets lucky with budgets for the respective division, struggles to get over the line despite obvious advantages in their favour.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

The massive, massive budgets he had both times, presumably.

So is the feeling that both promotions were solely down to big budgets?

Thought his Fulham team played really good attacking football. His stint abroad was clearly a failure, but to rule him out based on 1 job is harsh.

(Im not really allowing myself to form a strong opinion BTW, I just want the takeover concluded and go from there).

 

[Guesty]

So is the feeling that both promotions were solely down to big budgets?

Thought his Fulham team played really good attacking football. His stint abroad was clearly a failure, but to rule him out based on 1 job is harsh.

I can't remember the Fulham promotion to be honest, but Bournemouth hobbled over the line despite spending a fortune, I remember that at they time they were considered to have made very heavy weather of it.

 

[JackSUFC]

He has an absolute dream team at Bournemouth. Better than the side we had last year that got promoted and he stumbled over the line.

Would rather have Hecky than Parker.

Ok so I looked this up:

They finished 2 points behind champions Fulham who were smashing everyone 7-0 and 6 points clear of third placed Huddersfield. They also lost one of their last 14 games. Is that stumbling over the line?

Big budgets can often mean sweet FA in the Championship. Plenty of teams spend big and don’t go up.

I’m not backing Parker here or making a claim for him to be our next manager, but the general consensus on here that he’s completely shit seems off to me.

 

[Davalon]

Ok so I looked this up:

They finished 2 points behind champions Fulham who were smashing everyone 7-0 and 6 points clear of third placed Huddersfield. They also lost one of their last 14 games. Is that stumbling over the line?

Big budgets can often mean sweet FA in the Championship. Plenty of teams spend big and don’t go up.

I’m not backing Parker here or making a claim for him to be our next manager, but the general consensus on here that he’s completely shit seems off to me.

I'm not Parker's biggest fan and certainly not hoping he tips up here but his record in the Championship is better than some are suggesting despite funds he's had to work with. Some of the comments are very Unitedfanesque. At some point in the future more fans might realise that it's the attitude of the supporters that is the bigger problem, not the personality and charisma of the manager.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

You have to laugh at our fan base turn their noses up at someone who didn't used to go to Bri and Irene's, I remember us been linked with Sven in the mid noughts and fans were apoplectic about it, this was a man who had won actual trophies.

Only in S2

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

If we are being brought by Americans then I wouldn't be surprised by an appointment like Parker.
A player who was capped by England, played at the top level and has managed to get promotions ticks a lot of the boxes, also he is young.
No idea if he will be any good or not, I will say it wouldn't be a United kind of signing, we've only really tried this with Robson but after last season I expect plenty of change and I certainly don't see Wilder staying long term after this car crash of a season.
If Rooney didn't move to Plymouth I wouldn't have been surprised to see his named linked with his time in America.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

If we are being brought by Americans then I wouldn't be surprised by an appointment like Parker.
A player who was capped by England, played at the top level and has managed to get promotions ticks a lot of the boxes, also he is young.
No idea if he will be any good or not, I will say it wouldn't be a United kind of signing, we've only really tried this with Robson but after last season I expect plenty of change and I certainly don't see Wilder staying long term after this car crash of a season.
If Rooney didn't move to Plymouth I wouldn't have been surprised to see his named linked with his time in America.

You can't really compare Robson with Parker, Robson got someone promoted with an absolute barrel of cash 11 years previously, Parker has won a couple of promotions recently

 

[PaddysMad]

There’s better managers out there though unless he can attract the better London based players ect

 

[designedbyross]

I'm not totally convinced by his style of play as it requires a lot of patience, but I would argue he has a better track record with transfers than Wilder (certainly when it comes to spending money) - how much of that is down to either of them vs the respective recruitment teams is another matter though, but hopefully that's something new owners would sort out as a priority.

Parkers transfer history - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scott-parker/spielertransfers/trainer/54455
Wilders transfer history - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chris-wilder/spielertransfers/trainer/15289 (warning, may cause PTSD)

 

[JackSUFC]

I'm not Parker's biggest fan and certainly not hoping he tips up here but his record in the Championship is better than some are suggesting despite funds he's had to work with. Some of the comments are very Unitedfanesque. At some point in the future more fans might realise that it's the attitude of the supporters that is the bigger problem, not the personality and charisma of the manager.

I've already read comments about how he dresses on the touchline FFS. Is there another fanbase like this?

 

[Davalon]

I've already read comments about how he dresses on the touchline FFS. Is there another fanbase like this?

Maybe.

I think it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Some had already decided Slav was the wrong man because he didn't sound inspiring in interviews and some said they couldn't understand him. Soon as they realised he didn't wave to and clap the fans, he was deffo a wrong 'un.

The only chance managers from certain places with certain characteristics have to get full support here, is to hit the ground running. Otherwise a notable section of the fanbase will have already given up on them and crave a Wilder/Warnock type.

 

[Bladezz]

Maybe.

I think it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Some had already decided Slav was the wrong man because he didn't sound inspiring in interviews and some said they couldn't understand him. Soon as they realised he didn't wave to and clap the fans, he was deffo a wrong 'un.

The only chance managers from certain places with certain characteristics have to get full support here, is to hit the ground running. Otherwise a notable section of the fanbase will have already given up on them and crave a Wilder/Warnock type.

Yes pretty much and what’s wrong with that.

As a city we have certain characteristics that we see. I remember my uncle who moved away said everyone in Sheffield prefers a tackle to a pass.

Our favoured personnel are the workers. Monty / Basham are some that spring to mind that were very limited ability wise but us lot in Sheffield love that.

We want a team that represents the city. Teams in London rather see passing out from the back and don’t like big tackles just personal preference.

 

[Blades1971]

If we are changing manager which I wouldn’t. I would go with Hecky.

We need someone who knows the club and knows the big issues that we have within it. I always think Man Utd and Watford do this. They get a manager in he identifies the problems but then is sacked before can change them over.

This isn’t a managerial job per se it’s about knowing what your walking into so that can change what’s required.

The old adage. You don't go back, ie manager or player

 

[Torrix1889]

i still havent seen a realistic option that better than keeping wilder

Steve Cooper says hi....

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

You have to laugh at our fan base turn their noses up at someone who didn't used to go to Bri and Irene's, I remember us been linked with Sven in the mid noughts and fans were apoplectic about it, this was a man who had won actual trophies.

Only in S2

Proper blayards live in S2

 

[Davalon]

Yes pretty much and what’s wrong with that.

As a city we have certain characteristics that we see. I remember my uncle who moved away said everyone in Sheffield prefers a tackle to a pass.

Our favoured personnel are the workers. Monty / Basham are some that spring to mind that were very limited ability wise but us lot in Sheffield love that.

We want a team that represents the city. Teams in London rather see passing out from the back and don’t like big tackles just personal preference.

The personality and background of the manager has nothing to do with style of play.

Not to mention that the best technical teams still work hard, tackle back and have aggression and intensity.

 

[CrookesBlade]

I don’t see Parker as being a discernibly better appointment than Wilder if all things are equal. If Parker was our manager now and we had no link with CW some of our fans would be asking why we don’t give him a go.

If Wilder is happy working within a proper structure rather than insist on everything going through him I don’t see any reason why he can’t be successful.

The wheels fell off last time when him and the board were pulling in opposite directions. Last season was a complete write off from July so hard to pin much of it on him. Sure he made some decisions that didn’t work out but anybody would have been pissing in the wind in that situation.

Wilder has got this club promoted before with limited resource whilst playing good football. He also knows the squad (or at least what’s left of it) and the division in general which should represent something of a head start. He’s worth a try til Xmas.

We need a revolution in terms of squad definitely, which is what we’ll have given how many we are losing but I don’t see the point in replacing the manager for the sake of it.

 

[TJ blade]

We all say this but we will still go.

Be a huge step backwards. Would rather new owner go for Hecky.

If they go for hecky I'm not fucking going!

 

[TJ blade]

I've already read comments about how he dresses on the touchline FFS. Is there another fanbase like this?

Come on, if there is a new manager coming in, it's got to be one whats slaps the badge, drinks peroni. And is a bladey blade, we don't want no Southern shandy drinking posh twat at the lane, oh and he must fitted out in overalls on the touchline, just to give us that working class background feel

 

[Bl4desutd]

I’ve heard from a friend of a friend that he voted Tory at the last general election and that he intends doing the same again this July…….
That’s not going to gone down very well with all the labour / union stalwarts on here

 

[SUFCinks]

If we are changing manager which I wouldn’t. I would go with Hecky.

We need someone who knows the club and knows the big issues that we have within it. I always think Man Utd and Watford do this. They get a manager in he identifies the problems but then is sacked before can change them over.

This isn’t a managerial job per se it’s about knowing what your walking into so that can change what’s required.

If Hecky fails, would you then get wilder back?

 

[Bladezz]

If Hecky fails, would you then get wilder back?

It’s more if Wilder is gone. Who would I want in.

I wouldn’t want Wilder to go.

But Hecky is a lot better than Parker.

 

[Bladezz]

The personality and background of the manager has nothing to do with style of play.

Not to mention that the best technical teams still work hard, tackle back and have aggression and intensity.

The team he got relegated from the Premier league with arguably should have been enough for top 6 in the PL.

His style of play is where the issue is.

 

[Westran]

The team he got relegated from the Premier league with arguably should have been enough for top 6 in the PL.

His style of play is where the issue is.

You're saying Bournemouth should have finished top 6, but didn't because of Parker?

 

[Bladezz]

You're saying Bournemouth should have finished top 6, but didn't because of Parker?

Apologies I wasn’t clear. It was his Fulham team that got relegated that should have been top 6.

 

[SUFCinks]

It’s more if Wilder is gone. Who would I want in.

I wouldn’t want Wilder to go.

But Hecky is a lot better than Parker.

I’d hope we would be able to see beyond a shortlist of 2 managers, 1 having previously worked here. But you never know with SUFC.

We do love looking backwards instead of forwards though. The tried and tested averageness is more comforting than anything new and adventurous.

Having said that, Parker isn’t the best choice. Hard to get excited about him. Not sure i could face going back to another failed manager though. Would probably take a break from supporting us if we got hecky back. Groundhog day.

 

[Westran]

Apologies I wasn’t clear. It was his Fulham team that got relegated that should have been top 6.

There's no way that squad was a top 6 PL squad. Maybe they should have done better than they did, but we finished 10th the previous season with Wilder and finished rock bottom the season after.

 

[Yoonited]

I'm not Parker's biggest fan and certainly not hoping he tips up here but his record in the Championship is better than some are suggesting despite funds he's had to work with. Some of the comments are very Unitedfanesque. At some point in the future more fans might realise that it's the attitude of the supporters that is the bigger problem, not the personality and charisma of the manager.

SOME of the supporters.