Sander Berge

[Danetheblade]

Tuesday morning pre-Coffee thought - I wonder if we might see him in the middle of the defence tomorrow...

Circumstances mean we have no choice but to be creative
Egan is out
Jags potentially injured - If so, we don't have anyone left ideally to slot into that role, Bash is our only first team defender left and I wouldn't fancy him in the centre. Leaves you with Jack Rodwell (shudder), Jack Robinson in the middle and moving Enda inside to LCB (Robinson is a full back by trade, so not for me) or bringing someone, I don't know who, from the youth team.

No option is ideal, But Sander is 6'4, good defensively, good reader of the game, good aerially as we've seen from him defending set pieces and no slouch. He's played CDM all his career and we've often seen with the top teams CDM's slotting into centre half this and last season after injury crisis' (Fernandinho, Fabinho, Rodri) so it's not revolutionary. I'd quite like to see it. We might just stumble onto an incredible solution to the problem we've found by total accident.

I honestly really want to see him in that norwood role. That's the position he's played in and is his preferred role in a team. If you look at the pool game (in which he dominated) he was in this postition.

 

[Mercedes]

What's your point.

What's your point.

Called mate

 

[Danetheblade]

Who's coming through

Tyler Smith
Rhys norrington Davies are two I'm aware of, you could probably add Parkhouse to that too.

 

[Chabuddy G]

I honestly really want to see him in that norwood role. That's the position he's played in and is his preferred role in a team. If you look at the pool game (in which he dominated) he was in this postition.

Me too, but this is a situation when we might have a chance to experiment and find we don't need to replace Jags next season as we have someone who can cover Egan in that role, or even better him

 

[Danetheblade]

Me too, but this is a situation when we might have a chance to experiment and find we don't need to replace Jags next season as we have someone who can cover Egan in that role, or even better him

I'm sure I've read somewhere he has played at CB before.. definitely agree with the experiment comment, but I think we should experiment him in his natural role, FMBlade1 mentioned that he thinks Norwood has "dropped in confidence since the arrival of Berge" but that's a Norwood problem, and by Wilders own logic, if he's dropped in form, he needs to be given a rest on the sidelines.

 

[Mercedes]

Tyler Smith
Rhys norrington Davies are two I'm aware of, you could probably add Parkhouse to that too.

Look forward to seeing them in the first team

 

[Danetheblade]

Look forward to seeing them in the first team

See. That's the issue.. I don't think you will see them in the first team. Guessing your new here, Ball_Sup (Phil) is the man when it comes to the youth teams.

 

[Chabuddy G]

I'm sure I've read somewhere he has played at CB before.. definitely agree with the experiment comment, but I think we should experiment him in his natural role, FMBlade1 mentioned that he thinks Norwood has "dropped in confidence since the arrival of Berge" but that's a Norwood problem, and by Wilders own logic, if he's dropped in form, he needs to be given a rest on the sidelines.

I don't see why that'd make Norwood drop in confidence and to be honest I think that's bollocks. He's not played a PL min in Norwood's role since coming in

I love seeing CDM's play CB. it's interesting to see them take to the role. Fernandinho, Rodri and Fabinho have all excelled in it at one time or another (for obviously much better sides than us, but we play a different system entirely)

 

[Danetheblade]

I don't see why that'd make Norwood drop in confidence and to be honest I think that's bollocks. He's not played a PL min in Norwood's role since coming in

I love seeing CDM's play CB. it's interesting to see them take to the role. Fernandinho, Rodri and Fabinho have all excelled in it at one time or another (for obviously much better sides than us, but we play a different system entirely)

Likewise.. though I can see where he's coming from. A talent in Berge (yes, he's had a shitty start since being here, but he's evidently got talent) coming into the team would put me off my game if I knew that he plays in my role usually. CDMs taking the role seem to be a bit more... Attack minded, so it'd definitely be interesting to see. Though I'd be happy seeing him in his usual role haha

 

[CarlMcBlade]

A “Sander Berge is crap” thread is like a rights of passage for any new or underperforming player at BDTBL. Even though we pat ourselves on a the back for being wonderful supporters. It’s doesn’t take long for the vultures to start circling when a players form drops off a cliff.

 

[CoatesyBlade]

Called mate

This must be a wind up. You called me mate first... and told me to watch my blood pressure!
Not sure who this person is but clearly just attention seeking stirring the shit!

 

[Mercedes]

This must be a wind up. You called me mate first... and told me to watch my blood pressure!
Not sure who this person is but clearly just attention seeking stirring the shit!

Why am I attention seeking as for stirring the shit this is why it can never work and it works abroad is because they don't have the millions to spend so they have to work at it and develop just look at Middlesbrough they spent the Millions look at them now maybe they would have been better developing be carful what you wish for but once you get into the premier league clubs take the eye off the ball Bolton is another example Sunderland a massive club another

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I think Lunny deserves the start tonight. I never knock or scapegoat our players, simply - Lunny has looked sharper.

 

[FTPE]

I've just watched Sander's highlights again (obviously not from here) and we NEED to play him deeper.
His game seems to be interceptions, winning the ball back and the odd Bash-esque burst through the middle.

 

[borg elite]

Yes that was pretty much his game in Belgium and he was superb at it.

I've just watched Sander's highlights again (obviously not from here) and we NEED to play him deeper.
His game seems to be interceptions, winning the ball back and the odd Bash-esque burst through the middle.

 

[FTPE]

Yes that was pretty much his game in Belgium and he was superb at it.

Did you see much of him?
Could he do the Norwood role in games when we will be having less possession?

 

[SittingontheBall]

I've just watched Sander's highlights again (obviously not from here) and we NEED to play him deeper.
His game seems to be interceptions, winning the ball back and the odd Bash-esque burst through the middle.

When he did that on Sunday, and he did quite a few times despite what some have said on here, that was when he looked good.

 

[Working Class Hero]

Admittedly I've usually had a few pints but I don't remember a single "Bash-esque burst through the middle" in the 7 games he's played for us.

I'm not going to slate him and I desperately want him to be brilliant, but he has a worrying lack of "burst" for me, so it seems odd to suggest that's been his strength.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Admittedly I've usually had a few pints but I don't remember a single "Bash-esque burst through the middle" in the 7 games he's played for us.

I'm not going to slate him and I desperately want him to be brilliant, but he has a worrying lack of "burst" for me, so it seems odd to suggest that's been his strength.
[/QUOTEdo not disagree but he needs to be more central and deeper. Would love to know what the thinking was on buying him....in terms of surely the intention was to buy him and play him in his favoured position.

 

[borg elite]

That's because he isn't playing that role in the middle. I think it's clear he has been asked to do something different for us. We should see what CWAK have in store for him next season. When we bought him I assumed he'd be taking the Norwood role. But obvioulsy he's a different kind of player to Norwood.

Admittedly I've usually had a few pints but I don't remember a single "Bash-esque burst through the middle" in the 7 games he's played for us.

I'm not going to slate him and I desperately want him to be brilliant, but he has a worrying lack of "burst" for me, so it seems odd to suggest that's been his strength.

 

[FTPE]

When he did that on Sunday, and he did quite a few times despite what some have said on here, that was when he looked good.

No he did, you're absolutely right.
He never goes to ground to win the ball back either which is a good indicator of how well he reads the game.
His passing and distribution has been poor so far, theres no getting around that but hes a young lad and this big move for him (and it is) maybe nerves and pressure are taking their toll and maybe he's trying to do more because of the big price tag.

 

[borg elite]

No more than anyone else really. I follow a few european podcasts and he was always talked about favourably and very highly regarded. Not just by journalists but football people as well.

You make a good point about using him when we'll be having less possesion.

Did you see much of him?
Could he do the Norwood role in games when we will be having less possession?

 

[Freethinker]

A “Sander Berge is crap” thread is like a rights of passage for any new or underperforming player at BDTBL. Even though we pat ourselves on a the back for being wonderful supporters. It’s doesn’t take long for the vultures to start circling when a players form drops off a cliff.

Clue forum

 

[Shoreham_Bhoys]

Hopefully he has a stormer tonight, should suit him as the game is likely to be played at a slow pace in sizzling heat.

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

Better today, but he doesn't get back quick enough.

 

[Chabuddy G]

Better today, but he doesn't get back quick enough.

He’s literally been our best player. Don’t try and nit pick. If you’re nit picking anyone you wanna be looking at the left sided midfielder instead. Awful today.

 

[Caseh]

Better today, but he doesn't get back quick enough.

Maybe he's following orders? Not everyone is going to charge around like Lundstram and Fleck.

 

[The Vicar]

Played very well, looked like a different player & put some good balls into the box

 

[TJB.]

Best display in a Blades shirt so far, that. Good vision, good touches and got into good positions. Chased the ball down better than our forwards at times.

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

Stevie Wonder could see this lad is a really good footballer. His composure and technique might be the best in the team. But he's not going to be one of those all-action players that people expect for £20m.