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I didn't see any digs in there at all; a balanced piece from the viewpoint of the bystander. No doubt it will get the righteous fury on here, but until any decision is overturned, a convicted rapist is being cheered/supported etc. The similarities in our reactions to the Suarez case are frightening.
 
Faultless in my opinion. And frighteningly neutral. Condems those who it should and leaves the rest alone.
 
I didn't find much wrong with it, even though I've read the Guardian for 45 years( or maybe that's why).
 
Although I usually skip his articles he has got it bang-on there
TBF to the fat-man, I thought he went overboard with the Tevez stuff, but before all that and since I've found him to be a very good journalist.
 
Cant see it at work can someone paste it up please?
 
Cant see it at work can someone paste it up please?
Only in football would a rapist get a round of applause

The brochures were printed. What else could they have done? There it was, glossy as you like: Professional Footballers' Association League One team of the season, strikers Jordan Rhodes (Huddersfield Town) and Ched Evans (Sheffield United).
You can't let the small matter of a five-year rape sentence interfere with a big moment like that. And so it was that, at the Grosvenor House Hotel on Sunday, the name Ched Evans echoed across a room of football's great and good, read out and saluted as if nothing had happened. Hero to rapist and back to hero again, all in a matter of days. Truly this is the best of all possible worlds.
David Jones, the Sky television presenter, ran through the third tier XI to continuous applause that did not rise - thankfully - or falter, even when he reached the name of the PFA member who had left Caernarfon Crown Court for a prison cell just two days previously.

'It would have drawn more attention had we pulled him out of the team,' said Bobby Barnes, the PFA's deputy chief executive. We do not condone the offence, but when the voting took place nobody had any knowledge of pending convictions. The award was based on merit. It was voted for by the players and based on his performances on the field.'
'That was a football judgment by fellow professionals,' added chief executive Gordon Taylor. 'It was not a moral judgment. If he had been removed from the team it would have created more of a storm and manipulated the vote. In no way does the PFA condone the offence for which he was convicted.'
And if football keeps saying that, perhaps we will believe it. But you know what? It did condone it, ever so slightly, because convicted rapists do not tend to receive the solace of public shows of respect and admiration from their most exalted peers.
Other peers, just 12 of them and not an Armani tux in sight, have already given their appraisal in the courtroom, in Evans' case after only four hours and 52 minutes' deliberation - and there is nothing comforting in their conclusion.
Only in football would a rapist be afforded a round of applause two days after his trial. Those must have been some really expensive brochures. So what could the PFA have done differently? For a start, they could have tried behaving like a trade union.
You know, an organisation that leans left by nature and makes decisions based on a loose set of socialist principles, rather than what will look weird on the Sky transmission.
There are female members of the PFA - England's women's team have been in since January 1, 2007, although Fulham's women were the trailblazers, admitted on turning professional in the 2000-01 season - but even now the annual Player of the Year dinner remains a male-dominated affair, eyewitnesses estimating that men accounted for between 85 and 90 per cent of the turn-out.
Maybe had there been a greater feminine presence the decision to lionise Evans would have met resistance. Maybe in a less testosterone-fuelled environment, someone might have pointed out that any decision that necessitates a follow-up statement clarifying the organisation's position on rape is probably the wrong one.
Even if the proofs had been signed off at the printers, the video montage compiled and the script written, it is hard to imagine the Unite union being conflicted in similar circumstances. It is hardly political correctness to withdraw endorsement of a convicted rapist, and if a trade union cannot be politically correct, who can?
Taylor says that to overlook Evans, or withdraw him, when the evidence of his commendation was already in the brochure would have created controversy, but how so? Who exactly would have condemned the PFA for failing to give a very recently convicted rapist his moment of glory? Any war of words would have been mercifully short, with the weight of public support and sympathy behind the union.

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'On the night, we felt it appropriate to leave Evans' name out of the announced team in the light of recent events. We did not wish to alter the vote, which was made prior to the trial, but firmly believe this small acknowledgement of changed circumstance was the right and responsible thing to do,' said a PFA spokesman in my fictional press release.
And who could object to such basic decency? Instead, football forged ahead, oblivious to wider sensibilities, again creating the impression that the PFA's members are not so much trade unionists as privileged beneficiaries of an exclusive club. No precedents would have been set by Evans' exclusion, no millstones tied, because this was clearly a unique event.
Instead, the sport's relationship with half the population appears more skewed than ever; as, increasingly, does the stance of the unequivocal, unquestioning modern supporter. On Tuesday, Sheffield United suspended one of Evans' team-mates, Connor Brown, for a particularly repulsive outburst on Twitter.
Following the verdict, he called the victim a 'moneygrabbing tramp'. 'If u r a slag, u r a slag, don't try get money from being a slag,' he posted, semi-literately. Brown having pushed the boundaries of acceptability, the gates opened and a tidal wave of slurry poured through.
'In a Premier Inn with 2 footballers after a night out. Expecting tiddlywinks? And ruin a poor blokes life? ! #golddigger #chedevans #freeched... How can there be any evidence if the silly bitch can't remember anything... There's some birds in this pub who would defo get the #ChedEvans treatment...think. #ThereButForTheGraceOfGodGoI... If nailing a tramp who is too w****red to say no is a crime then the old bill need to get down to mine with a set of cuffs... I hope that silly tramp gets properly raped one day... #chedevans going to jail shows that women will come up with any excuse to get their 15 minutes of fame. . . #ChedEvansinocent !! #DrunkenSlag - moneygrabbing whore!!... Nobody knows facts the girl has done this before! There are now videos of her going around getting smashed by diff blokes.'

Excuse the English. It does seem like primitive code at times. Personally, I find those who quite cheerfully consider themselves rapists on the sly the most worrying social specimens, but you probably have your own favourite.
And there is more where this came from. Plenty more. Plenty of other people who think because a woman went back to a hotel with one man, she should be expecting to accommodate several, plus a camera, or that getting anonymously raped equates to an especially desperate quest for celebrity.
And she's had sex before! Well, that's just asking for it. 'Locked away for 5 years for lack of consent,' one Einstein mused, mystified. Yes, that would be the rape part. If you've got consent, it's sex. If you haven't, it's rape. It's not exactly a nuance. The girl Evans raped was drunk. So drunk she fell over in a kebab shop before agreeing to accompany another footballer, Clayton McDonald of Port Vale, back to his hotel.
Evans arrived because McDonald spoke to him on a mobile telephone and announced he had 'got a bird', like he had been out trapping them with nets. Evans arrived and had sex with the girl after McDonald, while others attempted to film what happened. The vulturous McDonald was charged with rape but acquitted, Evans got five years.
We presume the jury reasoned that, despite being in an advanced state of incapability, agreeing to go to the hotel with McDonald was consent, of sorts, and she may have even initiated the one-night stand. Evans was no part of that conversation; hence his behaviour was not consensual.

It can be a minefield, this stuff, and the evidence from all quarters was rather sordid. Nobody would argue the young woman was wise, but you will notice the hashtags: #freeched, #justice for Ched. Now there's an irony. Evans got justice; that is what unfolded at Caernarfon Crown Court before and during last Friday. Evans' case was processed through the Crown Prosecution Service.
The jury considered evidence - more detailed than is publicly available - and gave its guilty verdict. Judge Merfyn Hughes QC then passed sentence. That's justice, right there: except football prefers its bespoke version.
Just as Joey Barton arrogantly believed the rules of sub-judice impaired his right to free speech rather than enshrining the right of others to a fair trial, so the most entrenched supporters treat a courtroom or tribunal verdict as the start of the debate, not its conclusion.

Considering the fall-out from the Luis Suarez affair it would be possible to believe the panel appointed by the FA had returned an open decision, not one of guilt resulting in an eight-game ban; and whatever happens to John Terry this summer, his innocence of aiming a racial slur will be disbelieved, or his guilt unaccepted, according to allegiance.
A courtroom trial no longer provides closure but is merely the prelude to the inevitable trial by phone-in. Evans was judged by a jury of his peers, who heard many hours of evidence. Not enough, apparently. There is another jury, peopled entirely by fans in red and white stripes, encouraged by our reality vote, internet messageboard, interactive age to believe that no subject is concluded until they have had their say.
Not all Sheffield United fans are blindly loyal in the face of the evidence, but there are enough out there to make a commotion, or at least demand a retrial - including 3,000 on a Facebook site - because the default position for any footballer found guilty of anything is to go to appeal (Evans is considering it, according to his legal team).

That is where we are these days. Supporting has become an extreme sport. You don't just follow your team any more, you get behind rapists, racists, cheats and violent thugs; a free pass is always on offer providing you wear the right colours. The majority of those wanting Evans free do not extend that latitude to any desire he may have to freely play elsewhere on his release.
This relationship is conditional on his continued devotion to one club and one cause. Many of those crying freedom loudest do not base their views on a painstaking analysis of the minutiae of the case, either; they want Evans released because he is their man and it will benefit their club. Any argument is then tailored to fit that agenda.
Just as half of Merseyside suddenly became authorities in Rioplatense Spanish when the interpretation of this dialect was crucial to the exoneration of Suarez, so the motivations and character of a teenage girl will now be inspected and found wanting. In fact, they already have.
The identity of Evans' victim is out there, on Twitter - and courtesy of some clod, on Sky News, too - because nothing is taboo to a football pressure group with a well-honed sense of injustice. It used to be that your team got the worst referees; now they get the most trumped-up rape charges or the poorest interpretations of South American racial epithets.
The lip-reading community should brace itself for a blue storm if Terry's case goes against him this summer, while the admirable decision of the Manchester United fanzine Red Issue to denounce Ashley Young for diving became nationally newsworthy because of its unfamiliar departure from traditional party lines.
And, of course, to be biased is the nature of the fan. Loyalty, support, standing together is the essence of the role. Yet who did Evans harm, beside his victim? His club. The club they all profess to love: Sheffield United. They have enjoyed a good season but go into this weekend in second place, just a point clear of city rivals Sheffield Wednesday with two games remaining.

To this end, they could really do with one of the best strikers in the league, particularly at home to useful, promotion-chasing Stevenage on Saturday. Evans has really let them down. Experience indicates, however, that far from opprobrium in his absence, far from being required to take responsibility for his behaviour and its consequences, Evans will receive vocal support.
Only one Ched Evans? That's the problem. The last few days would suggest in his attitudes at least, he is far, far from alone.
 
I didn't see any digs in there at all; a balanced piece from the viewpoint of the bystander. No doubt it will get the righteous fury on here, but until any decision is overturned, a convicted rapist is being cheered/supported etc. The similarities in our reactions to the Suarez case are frightening.

OK, maybe I read it with my Tevez specs on :oops:
Reading it again, what I thought were slight digs could have been levelled at any club I guess.
 
I didn't see any digs in there at all; a balanced piece from the viewpoint of the bystander. No doubt it will get the righteous fury on here, but until any decision is overturned, a convicted rapist is being cheered/supported etc. The similarities in our reactions to the Suarez case are frightening.

Hopefully you won't misinterpret this as 'righteous fury' and, regarding Suarez, you won't see the Blades trotting out on Saturday with sickening, manufactured T-shirts like those loveable Scousers.

Yes, it's a decent article but, after the almost endless bile Samuel poured on us re. Tevez and his beloved Spammers, his faith/lack of faith in the judicial system is particularly one-eyed.

"And if football keeps saying that, perhaps we will believe it. But you know what? It did condone it, ever so slightly, because convicted rapists cheats do not tend to receive the solace of public shows of respect and admiration from their most exalted peers" (unless they're Chief Sports writers.).
"Other peers, just 12 of them and not an Armani tux in sight, have already given their appraisal in the courtroom, in Evans' case after only four hours and 52 minutes' deliberation (plus two full weeks in court - if there was really no 'reasonable doubt', why did it take so long?) - and there is nothing comforting in their conclusion." (Except they managed to find one defendant utterly innocent and the other one guilty)

"That is where we are these days. Supporting has become an extreme sport. You don't just follow your team any more, you get behind rapists, racists, cheats (your word, Samuel) and violent thugs;" And cheating clubs like West Ham who break the rules, get a record fine and still get your support.

I'm not going to be howled down because a few morons use Twitter when they haven't even got basic grammatical skills. I think the verdict - and the severity of the sentence - reeks. Ched's legal 'advisors' obviously didn't prepare him for his time in the witness box and I'm pleased he is appealing.

A 'Friday afternoon' verdict if ever I saw one.
 
It pains me to say it, as much as I detest Samuel, he is right.

The only bit you could contend is whether the 3000+ "fans" of the Facebook page (which is more than the club's official page has got) are all Blades - which I think is what he infers. Justr as likely to be friends, family, or people from his local community.
 

There are a few things in there which could be seen as veiled digs. He seems to infer that the facebook group is full of Blades fans only, and I almost get the feeling he wants us to chant Ched's name on Saturday just to really put the knife in.

One thing that gets me about the coverage of the Connor Brown tweets/suspension is that he is being referred to as a team mate. I think I've only seen it mentioned in one place so far that he is actually a youth/reserve team player rather than a first team player. Not that it makes a difference mind.
 
A decent article apart from the first section about Ched Evans being in the PFA team of the year. He was an innocent man until 20th April, by which time one assumes that voting was complete
 
This was a bizarre quote:

'It would have drawn more attention had we pulled him out of the team,' said Bobby Barnes, the PFA's deputy chief executive. 'We do not condone the offence, but when the voting took place nobody had any knowledge of pending convictions. The award was based on merit. It was voted for by the players and based on his performances on the field.'

 
Has he ever written an article about Carlton Cole ,or Lampard and Ferdinand and their exploits. As for the twitter stuff ,the naming of the victm has not come from Sheffield United fans (how would they know) ,it has come from the residents of Rhyl where they have no interest in who goes up with Charlton but are interested in local justice.
 
One of the reasons I am desperate for promotion this season is that hopefully that pigsarse of a club Wet Sham will stay in the Championship, and we can go and kick their grubby arses (on the pitch, not condoning violence!!). Hate them and all they stand for. What makes them "Darlings" of the media etc? Bloody Samuels is just typical blinkered excuse for a journalist with an agenda on SUFC just because we dared to bring them to book!!!!
Will he retract his words if Ched is found innocent on a retrial?

Will he ******y, he will be off to the local chippy to console himself.
 
Has he ever written an article about Carlton Cole ,or Lampard and Ferdinand and their exploits. As for the twitter stuff ,the naming of the victm has not come from Sheffield United fans (how would they know) ,it has come from the residents of Rhyl where they have no interest in who goes up with Charlton but are interested in local justice.

Have the residents of Rhyl been to their police with their evidence, as they are so interested in local justice as you say?
 
He couldn't have just left well alone with this subject could he?

He can't wait to have a dig , veiled or not, at us. Some of what he says is right, but my feelings are that if it was about a player of any other club he would have chosen another subject to talk about.
 
If it was about other footballers/teams I might just see it as balanced and well-written, however it just reads ever-so sligtly pleased with itself to be highlighting something else to try and smear the name of Sheffield United.
 
Have the residents of Rhyl been to their police with their evidence, as they are so interested in local justice as you say?

None of the stuff posted on Twitter covers itself in any kind of glory... however Sitwell is right to point out the whole thing flared up from locals NOT Blades fans...
 

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