Safe Standing and Atmosphere

[Danetheblade]

Yes, that's why I wouldn't want to sit down there. I enjoy my seat near the back. Why would I want to give my seat up to someone else for standing?? I've sat there for years and also bought and paid for my season ticket - in that seat I love being in the Kop. I love singing and shouting my head off. Also like to sit down a bit.

Which is exactly what you can do. You can do both.

 

[54yrblade]

Safe standing on the about bleeding time row AF down to QQ or summat. However, I will be generous, I am getting on a bit, 68 years old. So I will give up my seat on Row AF to a young un back of the Kop. I am too young to join the worthers brigade in the T-C stand. So I will sit in the top row of Bramall Lane upper saves me from walking reyt down John Street. I will celebrate this by having a few pints int the Railway or Cricketers before the match.

I'm 61 and also like to sit on the back row of BL upper. In the 70s I stood on the away end as a nipper so it's the closest I can get to that and love the view from the top row

My Blades 'journey' - away end, 54 years ago then the kop, family stand with my boy, kop again when he left for Uni and stayed up north and now BL upper, top row.

My son and I joke about my potential final move onto the South stand. We know what happens after that. He's preparing to buy my tartan blanket and flask, that we are led to believe is a rite of passage into that area.

So please stop on the kop. If you nick my favourite seat it's all going off!!!!

Or we can settle our differences with a Werthers eating competition?

 

[Booker4]

I completely disagree. The last thing I want to do for 90 odd minutes is stand up consistently. I can't be arsed! I'm a passionate fan, I don't need to stand for 90 minutes to keep this up. Standing up and making noise isn't a direct correlation. This is so discrimatory to older fans, many of whom have had their seat towards the back of the kop for years.

Without trying to be simplistic or patronizing, is it that big a deal to sit a few further rows forward so you don't have to be in the seating area? I would imagine it will be the back 6 - 10 rows so you'd still be near the back from the next row. I do appreciate what you're saying but I do think standing on the back of the Kop is a great move and I know from experience that if I'm sitting I don't want to sing as much, but maybe that's just me.

 

[BladeByChoice]

Without trying to be simplistic or patronizing, is it that big a deal to sit a few further rows forward so you don't have to be in the seating area? I would imagine it will be the back 6 - 10 rows so you'd still be near the back from the next row. I do appreciate what you're saying but I do think standing on the back of the Kop is a great move and I know from experience that if I'm sitting I don't want to sing as much, but maybe that's just me.

I walk the couple of miles to the Lane and stand for the 90 and bus it home, I'm also 60 now and know that won't last much longer, when my fitness goes I'll bus it both ways and when I can't stand for the 90 I'll move.

A season ticket gives you the right to occupy a seat for that season and first dibs for the next season.

It doesn't give you the right to occupy that seat for life and moan when everyone around you is stood up in a standing area.

Things change, if those changes mean the atmosphere at our club will improve, we should be embracing the change.

 

[CrookesBlade]

It’s reassuring that people have managed to create some negatives in what I assumed would be an entirely welcome move.

 

[Westran]

I completely disagree. The last thing I want to do for 90 odd minutes is stand up consistently. I can't be arsed! I'm a passionate fan, I don't need to stand for 90 minutes to keep this up. Standing up and making noise isn't a direct correlation. This is so discrimatory to older fans, many of whom have had their seat towards the back of the kop for years.

Move then. Or do you think you're more important than all the people who want the change, and so you shouldn't have to move? This is what's wrong with society, too many selfish people.

 

[TCsLoveChild]

all or much of this could be sorted/alleviated if they just told us which feckin seats are going to be affected. But no we will just keep people guessing, for what reason? Unless of course they haven’t thought it all through yet ffs. UTB

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Personally, I would have turned all the kop into a standing area, In its current form it’s a very poor seating experience anyway, and the shallow rake of the kop is not that far removed to when it was an all standing terrace back in the day.
I prefer to sit these days and the three other stands are perfect for that, but you’ve got to give people who like to sit down on the Kop more notice to move elsewhere in the ground…Maybe a one season relocation package, where they get a season ticket in another stand for Kop ticket price….Some will move, others will just stand

 

[Westran]

It isn't going to be in place for the start of the season, there's plenty of time for the club to communicate what rows will be affected and for people to move.

 

[Grey Blade]

'Safe standing areas permit supporters to stand during a match. Standing is not essential, however, supporters risk restricted pitch views if they are sat when surrounded by standing supporters. Season Tickets have been sold in the area prior at the back of the Kop. Once announced, should any supporters wish to move in or out of the area (subject to availability) please contact [email protected]'

Standing not essential - if you want to see anything it will be! The only problem I envisage is supporters wanting to stand together as part of a group taking up more than the allocated spaces - as occasionally happens at away games. I like standing at away games but on the odd occasion this happens, there's not a lot you can do about it. It needs to be well stewarded.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

It isn't going to be in place for the start of the season, there's plenty of time for the club to communicate what rows will be affected and for people to move.

I walk the couple of miles to the Lane and stand for the 90 and bus it home, I'm also 60 now and know that won't last much longer, when my fitness goes I'll bus it both ways and when I can't stand for the 90 I'll move.

A season ticket gives you the right to occupy a seat for that season and first dibs for the next season.

It doesn't give you the right to occupy that seat for life and moan when everyone around you is stood up in a standing area.

Things change, if those changes mean the atmosphere at our club will improve, we should be embracing the change.

I think you’ll find it does give you the right to complain…But hopefully safe standing change all that.

 

[OldBillBlade]

Move then. Or do you think you're more important than all the people who want the change, and so you shouldn't have to move? This is what's wrong with society, too many selfish people.

It works both ways. People are selfish because they want people to move.

 

[OldBillBlade]

It’s reassuring that people have managed to create some negatives in what I assumed would be an entirely welcome move.

That's the danger in assuming things. Look at Brexit. You assumed things.

 

[OldBillBlade]

Personally, I would have turned all the kop into a standing area, In its current form it’s a very poor seating experience anyway, and the shallow rake of the kop is not that far removed to when it was an all standing terrace back in the day.
I prefer to sit these days and the three other stands are perfect for that, but you’ve got to give people who like to sit down on the Kop more notice to move elsewhere in the ground…Maybe a one season relocation package, where they get a season ticket in another stand for Kop ticket price….Some will move, others will just stand

It would be half empty on the Kop. Don't assume everyone wants to stand.

 

[Westran]

It works both ways. People are selfish because they want people to move.

Lol interesting view. Don't change anything because some people might not like it! Taking that approach would mean we could never make any changes, just because some sensitive souls might take umbrage to it and be inconvenienced.

 

[ilovesufc]

Could you move to one of the 30,000 other seats?

Of which 25'000 have been sold?

 

[ilovesufc]

Which is exactly what you can do. You can do both.

Very dependent on what the people in front of you are sound though too.

 

[ilovesufc]

Without trying to be simplistic or patronizing, is it that big a deal to sit a few further rows forward so you don't have to be in the seating area? I would imagine it will be the back 6 - 10 rows so you'd still be near the back from the next row. I do appreciate what you're saying but I do think standing on the back of the Kop is a great move and I know from experience that if I'm sitting I don't want to sing as much, but maybe that's just me.

The issue here is that where I sit is a completely sold out area - because it's one of the best places on the Kop to sit. That's why I have a seat there and that's why I'd be pretty annoyed to have to give it up!

 

[ilovesufc]

Move then. Or do you think you're more important than all the people who want the change, and so you shouldn't have to move? This is what's wrong with society, too many selfish people.

Errrr... Vice versa??? Considering it's only a small section of the Kop that currently decide to stand for the whole match, I'd say I'm probably in the majority. Most people are up and down, not standing for 90.

 

[Danetheblade]

Very dependent on what the people in front of you are sound though too.

True. However like others have mentioned, you could just move lower down. I’d be pretty certain folk in those seats would be looking to move to the standing area. I personally would be

 

[CrookesBlade]

That's the danger in assuming things. Look at Brexit. You assumed things.

Must admit I don’t get the Brexit/Safe Standing link

 

[ilovesufc]

all or much of this could be sorted/alleviated if they just told us which feckin seats are going to be affected. But no we will just keep people guessing, for what reason? Unless of course they haven’t thought it all through yet ffs. UTB

Exactly this!!!! Selling season ticket SEATS and then saying oh btw this is a standing area now is right joke. Tell people beforehand

 

[ilovesufc]

True. However like others have mentioned, you could just move lower down. I’d be pretty certain folk in those seats would be looking to move to the standing area. I personally would be

Yeah but I don't want to move lower down or sideways so I can have a worse view and match day experience for my money. What I want is to be told about any changes to my seat before I spend my money on it. Hardly think that's unreasonable.

 

[Dec]

It would be half empty on the Kop. Don't assume everyone wants to stand.

Aren't you assuming that it would be half empty due to lack of interest?

 

[LBA_Blade]

As the article on the official website says "back of the Kop", I'm going to stick my neck out and say it is in the Kop, possibly towards the back of it

Careful now

 

[reedy63]

The rake on the kop is poor, we all know that I stand in the back row, to be honest, I have to stand on my seat like we all do in Row AF. I am assuming the seat will remain, and a metal bar will be in front of you so you can lean on it or stop you from falling. You will not be allowed to stand on your seat anymore, the supporters in the several rows in front of you are standing obviously, so if the fans in front of you are taller than you, you will not be able to see the pitch, only the back of someone's head. I can only speak for myself, but it makes sense for me to move. Back row of Bramall Lane upper. I am not a season ticket holder, I am a member. So, quite rightly, if a season ticket holder wants to move to Bramall Lane upper or any other stand they have dibs. So I won't be taking anybody's seat.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

It’ll probably be about 1/4 of the Kop (3k total, but also some on Bramall Lane within that), so plenty of choice to not stand if you don’t wish to.

I think the safe standing on Bramall Lane is in addition to the 3000 on the kop. That’s how I read it anyway.

 

[metalblade]

The 3000 standing places will not be in place immediatly as they will be fitted in phases starting at the back. 200 on each row means by the time they are all fitted it will be 15 rows which is down to about row OO. What I see happening is some will want to move back to stand leaving seats free lower down those wanting to sit should be able to move forward. I don't get those at the back wanting to sit it doesn't happen everyone up the back stand anyway as you can't see owt sat further back tthan row Z without being up and down like a jack in a box. I always have aisle seat otherwise sitting on the kop is torture if you are 6foot or more.

 

[reedy63]

Safe standing at the back 10 row, 15 row,s whatever, once they commence to work between games, it would be good if they told us the schedule which rows will be completed, so that people can go to the ticket office to change seats. If some want to change the stand they wish to sit in, and after buying a season ticket for the Kop, do they have to pay the difference, or will they let you change for free?

 

[Jon Bon II]

That's the danger in assuming things. Look at Brexit. You assumed things.

And Hitler. What about Hitler, while we're at it. Gor blimey.