Run the gauntlet

[Ollessendro]

Ok muckers, time to put down the gauntlet. Ollessendro is going to put his money where his mouth is. Anyone can take me up on this, but they need to say so know.

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- Evans, Cresswell or Porter score
- BT plays a game and does not score
- BT plays a game and we do not win


I’ve been getting some vitriolic abuse for merely expressing an opinion, so how many of you North Koreans want to take me up on this?

Before anyone gives me the 'it's not fair', just think this is James Beattie: the talisman, best striker since Deane and god like figure. And we are playing again shite in the 3rd tier week in week out.

 

[Darren]

Ok muckers, time to put down the gauntlet. Ollessendro is going to put his money where his mouth is. Anyone can take me up on this, but they need to say so know.

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- Evans, Cresswell or Porter score
- BT plays a game and does not score
- BT plays a game and we do not win


I’ve been getting some vitriolic abuse for merely expressing an opinion, so how many of you North Koreans want to take me up on this?

Before anyone gives me the 'it's not fair', just think this is James Beattie: the talisman, best striker since Deane and god like figure. And we are playing again shite in the 3rd tier week in week out.

Hardly a fair deal. On my rough and ready calculation, even in 2007-08, when Beattie played 39 games and got 22 goals (and swapping Webber, Stead and Sharp for Cresswell, Porter and Evans - and were those 3 only got 10 goals between them), you would have to buy 30 pints and would have had 54 bought for you

 

[axel smeets]

Yawn......

 

[bricktop]

Is something making you tired?

 

[axel smeets]

Is something making you tired?

Not half...

 

[judge]

Ok muckers, time to put down the gauntlet. Ollessendro is going to put his money where his mouth is. Anyone can take me up on this, but they need to say so know.

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- Evans, Cresswell or Porter score
- BT plays a game and does not score
- BT plays a game and we do not win


I’ve been getting some vitriolic abuse for merely expressing an opinion, so how many of you North Koreans want to take me up on this?

Before anyone gives me the 'it's not fair', just think this is James Beattie: the talisman, best striker since Deane and god like figure. And we are playing again shite in the 3rd tier week in week out.

how about every time beattie scores you dont post for a week ?

 

[SwissBlade]

how about every time beattie scores you dont post for a week ?

That'll happen anyway

 

[beightonblade]

I'll buy the champagne if McWobbleGob makes a sound footballing decision !

 

[davidpinder]

Ok muckers, time to put down the gauntlet. Ollessendro is going to put his money where his mouth is. Anyone can take me up on this, but they need to say so know.

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- Evans, Cresswell or Porter score
- BT plays a game and does not score
- BT plays a game and we do not win


I’ve been getting some vitriolic abuse for merely expressing an opinion, so how many of you North Koreans want to take me up on this?

Before anyone gives me the 'it's not fair', just think this is James Beattie: the talisman, best striker since Deane and god like figure. And we are playing again shite in the 3rd tier week in week out.

How about if you base it on Porter and Beattie?? each time beattie plays, scores, we win etc you get the pints in and if beattie misses out due to injury and porter (only) replaces him and does the job ie scores, we win etc then you get the pints bought you that is fairer.

The point most are making olle is that Beattie is a better option than porter and with our budget, funds etc the beattie signing makes sense.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Top thread guys, lolz!

 

[MunXy]

there seems to be a few points missing here, firstly i think part of beattie being signed was to give the fans a boost, maybe bring in a few extra bums on seats, second he hasnt played for how many months so given that if he manages to even get on the pitch will be a huge boost in morale for him and the team and fans.
third if i was paying wages of porter or beattie, i know who id personally prefer on the pitch, mainly because defenders are going to worry about him fit or not, porter, cresswel and even ched wont cause as much fear as even an unfit beattie.
but if it was beattie vs porter id take you up on that bet, cos porter couldnt score in a barnsley night club.

MunXy

 

[Ollessendro]

How about if you base it on Porter and Beattie?? each time beattie plays, scores, we win etc you get the pints in and if beattie misses out due to injury and porter (only) replaces him and does the job ie scores, we win etc then you get the pints bought you that is fairer.

The point most are making olle is that Beattie is a better option than porter and with our budget, funds etc the beattie signing makes sense.

Are you crackers? Not at any point have I said Porter is better than BT. Beattie on a treatment table will have the same effect as Porter. Plus we have two better strikers than Porter on the books already.

Hardly a fair deal. On my rough and ready calculation, even in 2007-08, when Beattie played 39 games and got 22 goals (and swapping Webber, Stead and Sharp for Cresswell, Porter and Evans - and were those 3 only got 10 goals between them), you would have to buy 30 pints and would have had 54 bought for you

What would you say is a fairer offer then?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

It seems pretty simple. You've offered us 2 situations why you would buy us a pint. Chose two situations when we would have to buy you a pint.

 

[Darren]

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What would you say is a fairer offer then?[/QUOTE]

I think the Porter/Beattie comparism is fair. You buy a pint for each goal JB scores and the other person buys one for each call CP scores.

 

[stannyblade]

What would you say is a fairer offer then?

How about just backing him. You know like you told everyone to do with Danny boy.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Did anyone see that Clint Eastwood film 'The Gauntlet'? One of the worst films he ever made.

 

[super_pig]

it's a desperate gamble that is to be sure. who knows how it will play out.. fingers crossed then

 

[judge]

it's a desperate gamble that is to be sure. who knows how it will play out.. fingers crossed then

its amazing how much your opinions run alonside the massive of porktalk

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Reminds me of;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdKa9bXVinE&feature=fvwrel

 

[Selly]

- Evans, Cresswell or Porter score
- BT plays a game and does not score
- BT plays a game and we do not win

I particuarly like the fact that we could be playing Charlton, away from home, get a 3-2 win, with BT laying on the goals for Evans/Cresswell/Porter to get a hattrick and we would still owe you 3 pints, despite BT clearly being instrumental in our victory...

 

[super_pig]

>its amazing how much your opinions run alonside the massive of porktalk
not really i was pretty much stating the obvious.. anyway how would you know what goes on on porktalk.. go there often do you?

 

[judge]

>its amazing how much your opinions run alonside the massive of porktalk
not really i was pretty much stating the obvious.. anyway how would you know what goes on on porktalk.. go there often do you?

i do actually ,i read their threads about us all the time out of a sense of fascination then i come and back on here and read superPIGS posts and they are almost an identical accumilation of their thoughts on us

sure its a coincidence like ,do you have anything positive to say about sheffield united superpig ?and why that choice of name ? bet i dont get an answer for that

 

[raul]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw

 

[Ollessendro]

Despite all the vitrol and Olle is talking shite, no one is willing to take on the bet. Surprise, surprise.

I particuarly like the fact that we could be playing Charlton, away from home, get a 3-2 win, with BT laying on the goals for Evans/Cresswell/Porter to get a hattrick and we would still owe you 3 pints, despite BT clearly being instrumental in our victory...

Actually it would just be 2 pints, because I would have to buy you one for BT being in the team and winning. But what are the chances of BT actually laying the ball off (or Creswell or Poreter scoring for that matter) when he could shoot?!

I think the Porter/Beattie comparism is fair. You buy a pint for each goal JB scores and the other person buys one for each call CP scores.

Eh? Only a mad man would propose that. BT is better than Porter. However I am better than Porter.

The simple fact is that if Beattie is fit and on form then people will win the bet. If he plays, scores and United win then the pints are on me. If he doesn't play, plays and doesn't score or the team play better without him, then the pints are my opponent. We've heard all this bollocks about 'if he's fit, then he'll score a hatful', 'it's a no brainer', 'the only class player since we got relegated', 'Olle you are talking shite' etc etc. Yet no one is willing to run the gauntlet. Imagine how sweet the beer would taste if you could say 'I told you so' to Ollessendro's face. But people are scared. Why? Well deep down I guess there are seeds of doubt about Beattie's fitness, injury record and weight. You're all willing criticise me when I say 'BT is a lazy, individual player that has a negative effect on the team' yet none of you dare take the challenge. How truly pathetic!

 

[DuncDisorderly]

I've carefully considered my response to this thread.

Here it is...

[video=youtube;3s7w3_NGk2g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7w3_NGk2g[/video]

 

[B.Lade]

Ok muckers, time to put down the gauntlet. Ollessendro is going to put his money where his mouth is. Anyone can take me up on this, but they need to say so know.

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- Evans, Cresswell or Porter score
- BT plays a game and does not score
- BT plays a game and we do not win


I’ve been getting some vitriolic abuse for merely expressing an opinion, so how many of you North Koreans want to take me up on this?

Before anyone gives me the 'it's not fair', just think this is James Beattie: the talisman, best striker since Deane and god like figure. And we are playing again shite in the 3rd tier week in week out.

Don't post all that often, but this has driven me to it.

First point: Including Evans in this bet?? What, Evans who has scored 8 in 9 or something like that. Hmm, yeah, makes sense for me to bet against him
Second point: BT doesn't play and the team wins... or misses a game through injury... What, Beattie who's been out for nearly 2 years and therefore won't be match fit. The only reason we have him is because he hasn't played in 18 months or so. This is an opportunity for him to get some game time (and us to get a potentially quality player for little money/risk)). I'd taken it as read that he's not going to be playing every game, so effectively I'd have to bet on us to lose, which I can never bring myself to do...
Third point: BT plays a game and does not score? Are we including subs appearances, so if he plays 5 mins do you get a pint? Regardless, even assuming he gets a good ratio of a goal every other game, then that's at least a pint every other game I have to buy you. Assuming he plays, doesn't score and we win, then odds are one of the other strikers will score, so I'll be getting you 2 pints to my 1.
Fourth point: What is your point? Is it bad that we have Beattie back? How? Who else were we going to get? What's the harm? If we does well and scores we probably won't keep him (let's face it, he'll head somewhere 'better'). If he does badly then we won't keep him. In fact, I'd say the odds are incredibly slim of us keeping him whatsoever, so let's enjoy the fact that he's here, possibly bringing us a new option up front for what I suspect is very little money (or it wouldn't have been approved)

I can't be bothered with any more points, so I'll summarise:

The reason no one's taken up your bet Olle.... it's a bad bet. It's hugely weighted in your favour and we'd have to be looking at basically Beattie playing all the time and doing better than a goal every 2 games to even have a chance of break-even.
Saying nobody is backing their convictions by not taking it is laughable.

As it is I'm a buddhist monk so I don't drink anyway. (actually I'm not, but let's say I am for all the difference it makes from behind a keyboard).

 

[Darren]

Despite all the vitrol and Olle is talking shite, no one is willing to take on the bet. Surprise, surprise.



Actually it would just be 2 pints, because I would have to buy you one for BT being in the team and winning. But what are the chances of BT actually laying the ball off (or Creswell or Poreter scoring for that matter) when he could shoot?!



Eh? Only a mad man would propose that. BT is better than Porter. However I am better than Porter.

The simple fact is that if Beattie is fit and on form then people will win the bet. If he plays, scores and United win then the pints are on me. If he doesn't play, plays and doesn't score or the team play better without him, then the pints are my opponent. We've heard all this bollocks about 'if he's fit, then he'll score a hatful', 'it's a no brainer', 'the only class player since we got relegated', 'Olle you are talking shite' etc etc. Yet no one is willing to run the gauntlet. Imagine how sweet the beer would taste if you could say 'I told you so' to Ollessendro's face. But people are scared. Why? Well deep down I guess there are seeds of doubt about Beattie's fitness, injury record and weight. You're all willing criticise me when I say 'BT is a lazy, individual player that has a negative effect on the team' yet none of you dare take the challenge. How truly pathetic!

If Beattie is better than Porter and given that Beattie's most likely role is to replace Porter in the strikers' pecking order, what the fuck are you moaning about?

And look what I posted earlier. Even if Beattie does as well as he did in 07-08 (i.e. better than a goal every other game), you would still be 24 pints to the good. Only a madman would take up your bet.

 

[SotonBlade]

Any stick to beat the club with I guess, different stick, same agenda :spamalert:

 

[judge]

Despite all the vitrol and Olle is talking shite, no one is willing to take on the bet. Surprise, surprise.



Actually it would just be 2 pints, because I would have to buy you one for BT being in the team and winning. But what are the chances of BT actually laying the ball off (or Creswell or Poreter scoring for that matter) when he could shoot?!



Eh? Only a mad man would propose that. BT is better than Porter. However I am better than Porter.

The simple fact is that if Beattie is fit and on form then people will win the bet. If he plays, scores and United win then the pints are on me. If he doesn't play, plays and doesn't score or the team play better without him, then the pints are my opponent. We've heard all this bollocks about 'if he's fit, then he'll score a hatful', 'it's a no brainer', 'the only class player since we got relegated', 'Olle you are talking shite' etc etc. Yet no one is willing to run the gauntlet. Imagine how sweet the beer would taste if you could say 'I told you so' to Ollessendro's face. But people are scared. Why? Well deep down I guess there are seeds of doubt about Beattie's fitness, injury record and weight. You're all willing criticise me when I say 'BT is a lazy, individual player that has a negative effect on the team' yet none of you dare take the challenge. How truly pathetic!

i'll tell you what is truly pathetic ,you and your attention seeking

 

[shorehamview]

Here's a fairer bet. Every match that Beattie doesn't score in gets you a pint. But every match that Beattie does score in gets me a bottle of malt whisky of my choice.

If Beattie is as shit as you say, you're quids in. And there's no way you can lose, is there?


P.S. I like nice malts from the islands and west coast. None of that Glenfiddich shit.