Rotherham Sold Out

[Lmaobob]

I agree. People shouldn't be able to do it, but how do they stop people doing it? It's surely impossible to avoid?

The second paragraph is where I stand. So many people complain about not having enough points, then ask other people if they can borrow them. Repeat cycle and end up in this situation over and over on the rare occasions that supply is bigger than demand.

A thought is tougher checks on who it is that is asking for tickets.

D.O.B, Address, Mobile Number registered on the system, 5x security questions of some sort which are randomly selected to check security.

It would make buying tickets become more painful if you are legitimately wanting to buy yourself tickets to a game, which is the obvious negative.

All you need to buy a ticket is to give the staff your customer number and that's it

 

[Sean Thornton]

I posted on the other thread that I missed out due to ‘only’ having 36100 points (which I don’t think is too bad for a 23 year old) and whilst it is disappointing, I’m fully behind the points system and have no complaints.

The only aways I couldn’t get a ticket for last season if I wanted, were Wednesday and Forest, so add Rotherham to that this year and 3 out of 23 games isn’t bad at all. A few of my mates who are Leeds season ticket holders struggle most weeks to get them. You have to accept its what comes with following a well supported club.

My attitude is that in 2 years time I’ll have enough to not miss out on the likes of Forest and Wednesday, so I’m not crying about it now. I prefer longer journeys to the likes of Norwich and Millwall anyway

Problem isJack in two years those on 40k will have at least 45k if they keep going. That's the real issue if there's any unfairness, not those who have 20k pre L1 who moan when the big games come along.

 

[DazBlade88]

A thought is tougher checks on who it is that is asking for tickets.

D.O.B, Address, Mobile Number registered on the system, 5x security questions of some sort which are randomly selected to check security.

It would make buying tickets become more painful if you are legitimately wanting to buy yourself tickets to a game, which is the obvious negative.

All you need to buy a ticket is to give the staff your customer number and that's it

That would be fine if you're buying a single ticket but as I'm the bloke who buys all his mates tickets so we can sit together, it would be a nightmare

 

[Lmaobob]

That would be fine if you're buying a single ticket but as I'm the bloke who buys all his mates tickets so we can sit together, it would be a nightmare

Yeah good point. It's tough to think of ideas cus it's the fairest system possible!

 

[DazBlade88]

Yeah good point. It's tough to think of ideas cus it's the fairest system possible!

It's something I've thought about quite a lot. I'm definitely on board with a cut off period, but it will still be exploited in the way it is now unless you get ID'd at every game you go to!

 

[Blade&Snuff]

Surely the actual problem is very limited supply. Not an issue with the loyalty points system.

Struggling to see what would be fairer than letting the most loyal have first dibs at scarce tickets?

I'm not complaining.
I ran the risk of waiting a day so that I could sit with my friends and I didn't get one.
Whilst on the subject , I think it should be a 4 or 5 year rolling programme otherwise younger Blades will never be in the running.
UTBFTP

 

[CrookesBlade]

I agree. People shouldn't be able to do it, but how do they stop people doing it? It's surely impossible to avoid?

The second paragraph is where I stand. So many people complain about not having enough points, then ask other people if they can borrow them. Repeat cycle and end up in this situation over and over on the rare occasions that supply is bigger than demand.

Correct - there are always people on our WhatsApp group asking other people to get them tickets because they can't be arsed to sort it out or begging for points to go to certain away matches....then complaining they don't have the requisite 500 points to get a ticket for the Derby.

Don't get this 'recent loyalty' argument either. There is only so long somebody with a decent points tally can trade off attending past games before they start falling into the lower points brackets if they stop attending.

The system works. If every away game were to sell out then perhaps reserve say 20% of tickets for under 25s to give them a chance to attend and ensure it doesn't become the preserve of miserable old cunts . However, there are plenty that don't sell out which gives those who want to the chance to boost their points total if they so wish.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

I'm not complaining.
I ran the risk of waiting a day so that I could sit with my friends and I didn't get one.
Whilst on the subject , I think it should be a 4 or 5 year rolling programme otherwise younger Blades will never be in the running.
UTBFTP

I appreciate that your not complaining mate. My post was directed at the one under yours. I should have done a ‘reply ‘ to that one.

 

[SwissBlade]

Feel gutted
Could have got mine yesterday as I have over 40k points but left it until today so I could sit with my mates.
Phoned at 9am prompt but is took 33 calls before they stopped cutting the calls off.

Good support though.
UTBFTP

Didn't know you were thinking of going, would've messaged you if i'd known, they sold out yesterday

You going to Forest Saturday?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm not complaining.
I ran the risk of waiting a day so that I could sit with my friends and I didn't get one.
Whilst on the subject , I think it should be a 4 or 5 year rolling programme otherwise younger Blades will never be in the running.
UTBFTP

Correct - there are always people on our WhatsApp group asking other people to get them tickets because they can't be arsed to sort it out or begging for points to go to certain away matches....then complaining they don't have the requisite 500 points to get a ticket for the Derby.

Don't get this 'recent loyalty' argument either. There is only so long somebody with a decent points tally can trade off attending past games before they start falling into the lower points brackets if they stop attending.

The system works. If every away game were to sell out then perhaps reserve say 20% of tickets for under 25s to give them a chance to attend and ensure it doesn't become the preserve of miserable old cunts . However, there are plenty that don't sell out which gives those who want to the chance to boost their points total if they so wish.

2500 points each year for a season ticket is the main reason why tallies increase. Go to every away game and you're doubling that. People do. A poster on here has 36000 points at 23, there are 18 year olds with 40000 amassed since the scheme started. If you have a roll back, it should start with those who amassed their points six or seven years ago - and they are unlikely to have 40k anyway.

Whilst ever those with over 40k keep going only bigger allowances will make any major differences.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Im ok Im on over 50k points so its not usually a problem for me getting away tickets

But what probably would be fairer is that points earned whilst we was in L1 and generally crap could be doubled then that in some way rewards loyalty in going to games when we were generally bad. You could probably treble them for Adkins season in charge

 

[Sean Thornton]

Im ok Im on over 50k points so its not usually a problem for me getting away tickets

But what probably would be fairer is that points earned whilst we was in L1 and generally crap could be doubled then that in some way rewards loyalty in going to games when we were generally bad. You could probably treble them for Adkins season in charge

Bury away worth 50k points by itself as discussed before. Hull away as well.

 

[1993]

If they aren’t going to reset the loyalty points or go from last 5 years etc then maybe they should look at how many points are allocated for each game.

Maybe something like 0 loyalty points awarded for local away games pigs, Rotherham, Leeds etc.

100 loyalty points for up to 100 miles and 200 loyalty points per away game for 100+ miles and night matches.

 

[Topplayersleave]

You should stop receiving loyalty points at say 60,000 so that other fans can catch up.
Once we have 10,000 fans with 60,000 points important away games can be on a first come first served basis, it will also give the club a better gauge for demand.
The way it is now, we ask for 1500 - 2000 tickets, it takes an age to sell them and we don't get anymore
As a result those with the highest points stretch their lead and the cycle contines

 

[GuangzhouBlade]

40,000 really isn't a lot. I have had a season ticket for 15 years and do on average 6-8 away games a year so hardly home and away every week and I'm on 41,000. That includes a three year period where I didn't attend any away games. There aren't that many people who do 45+ games a season so if someone on 20,000 points now didn't miss a game for a couple of seasons they would eventually get in to the top 5-10% of fans and wouldn't have a problem getting any tickets. This rubbish about not being able to "catch up" is surely not true. I would understand it if we sold out every away game but we don't and even on low loyalty points you can still get a ticket for 90% of away games.

 

[Topplayersleave]

40,000 really isn't a lot. I have had a season ticket for 15 years and do on average 6-8 away games a year so hardly home and away every week and I'm on 41,000. That includes a three year period where I didn't attend any away games. There aren't that many people who do 45+ games a season so if someone on 20,000 points now didn't miss a game for a couple of seasons they would eventually get in to the top 5-10% of fans and wouldn't have a problem getting any tickets. This rubbish about not being able to "catch up" is surely not true. I would understand it if we sold out every away game but we don't and even on low loyalty points you can still get a ticket for 90% of away games.

I think we'd take more away eventually if the points stopped accumulating at a certain point
We have roughly the same amount of travelling fans for each away game whether it's Bristol City or Preston under the current system and this can be improved on if the loyalty points system was tweaked a bit. The same away fans are turning up to most games because they're the only ones that can get tickets and have time to plan, and other fans have no chance.

We all started travelling away at age 16-17-18 years of age, we were all much keener in those days, our new 16-17-18 year olds can't get a look in, but I'm sure plenty of them would want to go

 

[Blade&Snuff]

Didn't know you were thinking of going, would've messaged you if i'd known, they sold out yesterday

You going to Forest Saturday?

No mate, missed out on that one too as I was on a piss up in Whitby, are you back for the pork game.

 

[Sean Thornton]

You should stop receiving loyalty points at say 60,000 so that other fans can catch up.
Once we have 10,000 fans with 60,000 points important away games can be on a first come first served basis, it will also give the club a better gauge for demand.
The way it is now, we ask for 1500 - 2000 tickets, it takes an age to sell them and we don't get anymore
As a result those with the highest points stretch their lead and the cycle contines

If you have 60000 points you've pretty much seen most games since the scheme started but you suggest they vie with someone who fancies a day out at the Sty in a free for all?

Selling out on day two for Rovrem plus the Derby and Forest games proves that's nonsense.

Plus there were no extra tickets to be had for those games. And plenty of others.

And yet again you blame high loyalty point holders for those with lower points not being arsed to get a ticket with the strange idea that they would be arsed to get one if more were available. And that's the reason why we don't sell out every away game? On here today, you've got those with45k waiting until day 2 to get tickets with their 40k mates. How has that dragged anything out for those with under 40k points?

Are you sure you don't drink?

 

[DazBlade88]

The same away fans are turning up to most games because they're the only ones that can get tickets and have time to plan, and other fans have no chance.

Every single away game before Derby went to general sale, didn't it?

 

[SwissBlade]

No mate, missed out on that one too as I was on a piss up in Whitby, are you back for the pork game.

Ha ha Yeah i'll be at the pigs game. Forest Away and then Brentford

 

[Karaoke Blade]

The issue regarding people with different points sitting together could be resolved simply by selling unreserved seats. Too simple?

 

[Topplayersleave]

If you have 60000 points you've pretty much seen most games since the scheme started but you suggest they vie with someone who fancies a day out at the Sty in a free for all?

Selling out on day two for Rovrem plus the Derby and Forest games proves that's nonsense.

Plus there were no extra tickets to be had for those games. And plenty of others.

And yet again you blame high loyalty point holders for those with lower points not being arsed to get a ticket with the strange idea that they would be arsed to get one if more were available. And that's the reason why we don't sell out every away game? On here today, you've got those with45k waiting until day 2 to get tickets with their 40k mates. How has that dragged anything out for those with under 40k points?

Are you sure you don't drink?

I haven't blamed anybody, just offered an alternative. Stop points accumulation at a certain amount and let them fight for tickets like everybody else, the more people fighting for tickets the higher demand will get.
The biggest away followings are young lads/men, those without other responsibilities.
Our young lads can't go to away games like we did, they haven't existed long enough to accumulate the points.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I haven't blamed anybody, just offered an alternative. Stop points accumulation at a certain amount and let them fight for tickets like everybody else, the more people fighting for tickets the higher demand will get.
The biggest away followings are young lads/men, those without other responsibilities.
Our young lads can't go to away games like we did, they haven't existed long enough to accumulate the points.

So bollocks to loyalty then?

What do you call young?

 

[I should coco]

let them fight for tickets like everybody else, the more people fighting for tickets the higher demand will get.

Queensberry Rules?

Top economists theorise that the elasticity of demand is goverened by price and supply, rather than being reet good at feightin'......

 

[Topplayersleave]

Every single away game before Derby went to general sale, didn't it?

Exactly my point, who's going to try to obtain the 20 or 30 tickets that are left with obscured views, sat on your own, sat near the corner flag or any other obstruction when a whole section next to our fans is empty because of poor sales.
I agree with the loyalty points system contrary to what sean thornton thinks, but something has to be done to make it easier for fans to plan after the biggest loyalty points holders have got what they want. The current system leaves no time, I'm sure that young men who haven't been in the system long enough would travel to away games like we used to if they had the chance. The current system doesn't give them the chance

 

[itsinyerblood]

So bollocks to loyalty then?

What do you call young?

If they're under 5' 4" kill 'em, there, that'll solve the problem, simples!
#bitchesaresnitches

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

I haven't blamed anybody, just offered an alternative. Stop points accumulation at a certain amount and let them fight for tickets like everybody else, the more people fighting for tickets the higher demand will get.
The biggest away followings are young lads/men, those without other responsibilities.
Our young lads can't go to away games like we did, they haven't existed long enough to accumulate the points.

As majority of games reach general sale younger fans can get to those and accumulate. My 15 year old is on 40k points now and so hasn’t missed on any tickets so far.

 

[DazBlade88]

Exactly my point, who's going to try to obtain the 20 or 30 tickets that are left with obscured views, sat on your own, sat near the corner flag or any other obstruction when a whole section next to our fans is empty because of poor sales.
I agree with the loyalty points system contrary to what sean thornton thinks, but something has to be done to make it easier for fans to plan after the biggest loyalty points holders have got what they want. The current system leaves no time, I'm sure that young men who haven't been in the system long enough would travel to away games like we used to if they had the chance. The current system doesn't give them the chance

I'm sorry, I think I'm misunderstanding here. You said that the other fans hand no chance to get a ticket, but every game went to general sale with hundreds of tickets available. So they did have a chance?

I genuinely sympathise with some of the younger lads wanting to do it, but if they do the 'less fashionable' games for long enough they will catch up. I've been lucky as I started the away games when I left school in 2004 before the system started, so since the points were introduced in 2006 I've racked up them up. But after Christmas I'll be struggling to make any games, so my place in the queue will be available (no, I'm not handing out my points either!).

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Only blades with the club badge tattooed on their chest 25 cm actoss should get tickets . And anyone with megson is a cunt tattoo should get a discount
I unfortunately am excluded due to my Hammond is ace tattoo.let that be a warning against drinking Absynth on top of 6 pints

Visit a tattooist and get them to put the letters “A DISGR” in front of your the “ACE” and you’ll be fine.

 

[blade too long]

Visit a tattooist and get them to put the letters “A DISGR” in front of your the “ACE” and you’ll be fine.

geen today and had it changed to Hammonds sauce is ace