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[TheSwollengland]

Jordan Robertson ex Blade has signed for Scunny for those that like to know "where are they now?"

 

[JohnDenver]

Robertson?

 

[TheSwollengland]

Phone hell doh!

 

[bricktop]

I think he will do well at Scunthorpe. Given his past history it's a big step for a club to take someone with his record on.

I just hope he realises how lucky he is to get his career back, given that a bloke got killed because he chose to drive like a tool on the M1, and decide to change track on his Ipod whilst doing so.

 

[Jimmy Muir]

He should give a percentage of his wages to the widow and her kids while ever he plays.

 

[blade too long]

I read that in the United States there were just over 6000 killed in road accidents in 2009 , directly related to "driver distraction" either ipod , radio changing , phone , call or texting

Its not like its a pre meditated killing , I drive 80k miles a year and see 10 - 20 every day on the phone , eating , head down changing discs, applying make up

It comes as no surprise these "accidents" happen, Robertson was grossly unlucky to end up killing someone, lots more who pass judgements get away with it , and Id bet plenty in here have done things driving where but for providence theyd be in the same boat

I saw he put his hands up and admitted he did wrong , some wouldnt , hes the one thats got to live with the fact hes responsible for someones death, I doubt he,ll need reminding

 

[Jimmy Muir]

Its not like its a pre meditated killing , I drive 80k miles a year and see 10 - 20 every day on the phone , eating , head down changing discs, applying make up

I see this this too but not by people travelling 124 miles an hour.

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co....layer-jailed/story-12075193-detail/story.html

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I think he will do well at Scunthorpe. Given his past history it's a big step for a club to take someone with his record on.

I just hope he realises how lucky he is to get his career back, given that a bloke got killed because he chose to drive like a tool on the M1, and decide to change track on his Ipod whilst doing so.

While it may be fair comment, I bet there isn't a poster on here who hasn't changed a CD, altered radio station or been distracted by something else going on in the car while driving on the motorway. The only difference is luck.
It was an awful thing to happen and he had to serve his time, but I hope he can move on now as he has served his sentence.

In regards to the family of the guy who lost his life I hope they are getting all the help they need, and if they want it I hope he is seeing that finanically they are ok. Having met the lad this will have nearly destroyed him, which is why I hope he does come back. He admitted his guilt immediately and faced his punishment. While this obviously won't bring back the father of that family there is only so long that you can punish someone for making a silly mistake before you have to let him move on.

 

[Guesty]

It comes as no surprise these "accidents" happen, Robertson was grossly unlucky to end up killing someone,

Not as unlucky as the other bloke!

While it may be fair comment, I bet there isn't a poster on here who hasn't changed a CD, altered radio station or been distracted by something else going on in the car while driving on the motorway.

I can assure you unequivocally that I haven't.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I can assure you unequivocally that I haven't.

What, you've never looked away from the road to change radio station/tape/CD or to get something out of the glovebox? What do you drive, a Model T Ford or something?

I had to marvel a few weeks ago at a young lady who was applying mascara whilst doing about 65 mph on the M62 one morning - its a particularly bumpy section so how she managed to do it without looking like Alice Cooper is anyones guess!

 

[Guesty]

Nope, I don't drive at all.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

Nope, I don't drive at all.

Well you aren't in a position to comment then

 

[blade too long]

his speed though excessive in some ways is irrelevant , if hed collided at 65 mph it would probably caused the same outcome
It was the distraction from concentration that caused the incident

this is what annoys me about statistics regarding road accidents

speed will be hammered for this accident when its really recklessness
its like when they forced us to wear seat belts and said it had caused a drop in fatalities
nothing to do with the fact cars had started to be built with in built door protectors or stronger chassis

then the myth over speed cameras , or safety cameras as they were laughingly called

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

He went into the back of a car doing between 67mph and 71mph. How do you conclude that the result would have been the same at 65mph? He wouldn't even have caught it, never mind hit it so hard as to kill the driver!

The fact that he wasn't concentrating properly on the road ahead was a factor, but if he'd been travelling at a sensible speed it wouldn't have resulted in someone's death. The difference is that the lack of concentration was a momentary lapse. Many of us will have done something similar. The driving at 120mph plus was a deliberate and conscious decision that he was going to risk the lives of others for the thrill of driving fast, or to get to his destination more quickly. That's a totally different thing, and not many of us have done that.

I agree, though, that he doesn't need reminding by us of what he's done (although actually that's not what we're doing - we're just discussing an issue on a forum, which I doubt he reads). He's done his time, and, as you say, has to live with what he's done. I wouldn't hold what he has done against him if I knew him, and I wouldn't have any objection to him playing for United in the future.

 

[Balham]

He hit the other driver with the equivalent force of hitting a stationary vehicle while travelling at between 50 and 60mph. It was reckless and stupid and he's paid the price.

However, given the genuine remorse he's shown he deserves a second chance. Patrick Kluivert did the same when he was a junior pro at Ajax.

 

[Guesty]

Well you aren't in a position to comment then

Yes I am, all Bob said was that "there isn't a poster who..." and I just pointed out that I haven't.

I've never killed anyone, either, and I guess no-one else on here has, can they not comment either then?

 

[blade too long]

He went into the back of a car doing between 67mph and 71mph. How do you conclude that the result would have been the same at 65mph? He wouldn't even have caught it, never mind hit it so hard as to kill the driver!

The fact that he wasn't concentrating properly on the road ahead was a factor, but if he'd been travelling at a sensible speed it wouldn't have resulted in someone's death. The difference is that the lack of concentration was a momentary lapse. Many of us will have done something similar. The driving at 120mph plus was a deliberate and conscious decision that he was going to risk the lives of others for the thrill of driving fast, or to get to his destination more quickly. That's a totally different thing, and not many of us have done that.
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To detatch it from this incident alone, I do 80k a year and see incidents all year round on the motorway , collisions at the same speed , cars pulling out unaware of a vehicle beside them , do kill people, yes a car slamming infrom behind has different forces, but a side swipe from an adjacent vehicle can cause fatal results,
I recently just missed being hit at 5 am in the morning near chesterfield by a car swerving to avoid a jack knifed truck travelling at 56, in my rear view mirror saw the ensuing carnage, and the M1 was shut for the day and 2 died , it turned out the truck driver fell asleep , in this instance , but the first car that hit him was doing 80

and he died

was that the speeding drivers fault,
I think the recklessness is totally the truck drivers

I push the envelope , nearer 80 than 70 but allow a larger than usual space I wont tail gate

I think a tail gater at 65 is far more dangerous than someone in an open lane doing 85

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

I agree that a tailgater at 65 is more dangerous then someone in an open lane doing 85. Speed is far from being the only risk on the roads. It's probably not even the biggest risk. BUT, unlike most risks, it's premeditated, and in most cases it will cause an accident due to another cause, to be worse.

People will always lose concentration on the roads. People will always fall asleep. People will always focus on something else for a few seconds. That's because we're human, and we make mistakes. Therefore, there will always be accidents.

But if people drove within the speed limits, the accidents which occurred would have less energy, and would be less likely to kill.

I can do my best to avoid losing concentration. I can do things - like taking plenty of breaks - to reduces the chances of it happening. But I can't make it impossible.

What I can do, is decide to drive within the speed limit, to reduce the risk should I, or someone else, make a mistake. I just have to hope others around me will do the same.