CONFIRMED Rhian Brewster

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Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn said:
Para 1:- yes (during the transfer windows) - the (alleged ?) 40m may change (increase) the longer he is with us &/or performs well (appearances / goals international call up) + 'first dibs

Para2 :probably - personally I'd enjoy that

Para 3 Yes. Possibly😉🤔
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Right I've got it! Haha. Nice one.
 

BLADES1988 said:
The bit I still don't really get it the 3 years thing. Does this mean at any point in the next 3 years they can just buy him if they pay 40m? Or If we decide to sell in the next 3 years, they just have first dibs at 40m?

Or if Villa want to buy him next season for 90m Liverpool can buy him for 40m off us and flog him for 90m?

V confusing. Or I'm just thick 😂
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Depends how the clause is worded. It could say first two years they will not invoke the clause limiting it to the third year but that restricts their options so unlikely. Media have suggested Liverpool want Brewster to develop in the EPL over the next two years so its a fair assumption currently they will not approach us until year 3. Fortunes in football however, do change rapidly. If Brewster becomes a world beater in one season and Pool fail to win the league they may look to come back for him sooner rather than later.

Yes your scenario could happen. If other Clubs are alerted to his potential and he is valued at £90m due to England caps etc and scoring 20 goals in the EPL then Liverpool can take him off our hands for £40m and sell him on for a huge profit to others. That is the risk that has to be weighed up when agreeing to these clauses, the power does stay with the selling club. On the other hand if Brewsters goals keep us in the EPL for the next 2 seasons then the revenue we will earn as a Club will be money well spent even if we have to give him back for a small profit in comparison to what he is actually worth in the future.
 
Blade_In_Sydney said:
It's one of those things you need to do in life. Bit of a waste of time, but that's the way it is.
Even so, watching the games often entails getting up at 2am. Certainly, well worth it (especially the Chelsea game last season).
Recent years have been exciting. Even more exciting times ahead.
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I'm just happy it's easy to see all the games now. Was brutally frustrating trying to find streams over here when we were in L1.
 
Addison said:
Depends how the clause is worded. It could say first two years they will not invoke the clause limiting it to the third year but that restricts their options so unlikely. Media have suggested Liverpool want Brewster to develop in the EPL over the next two years so its a fair assumption currently they will not approach us until year 3. Fortunes in football however, do change rapidly. If Brewster becomes a world beater in one season and Pool fail to win the league they may look to come back for him sooner rather than later.

Yes your scenario could happen. If other Clubs are alerted to his potential and he is valued at £90m due to England caps etc and scoring 20 goals in the EPL then Liverpool can take him off our hands for £40m and sell him on for a huge profit to others. That is the risk that has to be weighed up when agreeing to these clauses, the power does stay with the selling club. On the other hand if Brewsters goals keep us in the EPL for the next 2 seasons then the revenue we will earn as a Club will be money well spent even if we have to give him back for a small profit in comparison to what he is actually worth in the future.
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Can't happen that would mean he was registered at 3 clubs in one season against Premier League rules i believe.
 
Watching the videos, interesting to hear Cookson saying Rhian to rhyme with Ian. Never even considered that, I think I'll go with that.

That group of young uns, Ramsdale, Berge, Brewster, Bogle, Lowe, Moose, McBurnie, and Ampadu though he's not ours, seems like it'd be a good laugh. Hopefully helps them on the pitch too.
 
bongleblade said:
i believe that is a buy back clause deal is it not? They have first refusal and the fee is set at £40m
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Not sure. If tomorrow we get a 40m bid from Tottenham, and Liverpool decline it, can we still sell?
 
Just realised. If Folarin Balogun doesn't sign a new Arsenal contract or sign for anyone else we could pick him up for free in the summer (or even a pre contract agreement in January). That would give is another future star striker for peanuts
 
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Times reports "he was not registered in time with the Premier League to make his debut against Arsenal tomorrow"
 

As far as I’m aware the buy back clause is just a guaranteed figure and time period in which the selling team can buy him back etc

So if he bangs in 20 this season, 25 next season then 6 or 7 in Euros at end of this year etc etc and next season a Barca or Madrid come in with 90 million then we have to sell to Liverpool at agreed price

As far as I’m aware, but obviously not sure, if they suddenly lose Mane and Salah early next year due to injury then they can’t just send a taxi down on Weds and take him before our game v Everton etc

Otherwise it would be just a loan and us paying 40 million for a season or two so I imagine there must be some agreed timeframe with both clubs in that 3 year buy back deal in which Liverpool could trigger
 
loyalblade95 said:
Just realised. If Folarin Balogun doesn't sign a new Arsenal contract or sign for anyone else we could pick him up for free in the summer (or even a pre contract agreement in January). That would give is another future star striker for peanuts
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be highly unlikely I’d say as we would have to pay compensation where as a bundesliga team wouldn’t andas he would be free they would offer very strong wages
 
Greg. said:
Villa fans are too busy rubbing their hands in glee that because Mané has COVID, they are now going to get 3 points vs. Liverpool.

Oh, but there is:



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I really.don't rate Watkins ,when we were linked at 18 m I was really unsure at double that I think he's going to flop .seen him twice for villa and he's barely touched the ball and looked no goal threat at all ,same with cash although I will admit I've not seen a lot of him
 
Niceguyeddie said:
same with cash although I will admit I've not seen a lot of him
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Cash has looked a decent player in the limited times I’ve watched him play. Pacy, energetic, decent delivery. He’s no better than Baldock though, who cost £500k(?) compared to Cash at £16m.
 
JackSUFC said:
Cash has looked a decent player in the limited times I’ve watched him play. Pacy, energetic, decent delivery. He’s no better than Baldock though, who cost about £15.5m less than him.
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In the game I saw him he was relatively quiet but did put in a loverly cross to.the back post to pick out grealish
Doesn't seem to venture over the halfway line and when he dies he stays in the full backs safe area about foirty yards out between touchline and penalty box but I suppose that's the difference between a full back and a wing back
 
Niceguyeddie said:
In the game I saw him he was relatively quiet but did put in a loverly cross to.the back post to pick out grealish
Doesn't seem to venture over the halfway line and when he dies he stays in the full backs safe area about foirty yards out between touchline and penalty box but I suppose that's the difference between a full back and a wing back
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Yeah true. I think we’d have been looking at playing him on the right of the midfield three if we’d have signed him, as he’d played there for Forest. I’m not exactly gutted we missed out on him though.
 
Sorry, this has nothing to do with the buyback arrangement, but it just occurred to me that we can now field a team with six players all having a surname beginning with B: Baldock, Basham, Berge, Bogle, Burke and Brewster.

Has this ever happened before...with any letter of the alphabet, let alone B? Over to you, Silent...

I apologise if it has already been said somewhere in this massive thread, but in the interest of reaching 400 pages...
 
darleyblade said:
Sorry, this has nothing to do with the buyback arrangement, but it just occurred to me that we can now field a team with six players all having a surname beginning with B: Baldock, Basham, Berge, Bogle, Burke and Brewster.

Has this ever happened before...with any letter of the alphabet, let alone B? Over to you, Silent...

I apologise if it has already been said somewhere in this massive thread, but in the interest of reaching 400 pages...
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Not sure about us, but HammerInPeace might know a team that did.
 
Racing Blade said:
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I was more worried about the buy back clause. How soon can they exercise it?
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Its not a first refusal transfer, that would enable us to retain the right to decide when to sell him in the future. In Laymans terms its a contract with Liverpool whereby if they invoke the buy back clause within a set time frame we have no option but to sell him back to Liverpool at the stated price in the clause.

He is our player, its not a loan but we can not sell him without seeking Liverpools permission or offering them the option to take up the buy back. The attached provides more detail on how it works.
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But Shirley that calls into question the third party ownership question. Just imagine we get to a position where it’s down to one game for a place in Europe or a cup and Liverpool pull the plug on our only striker (others injured) by invoking the buy back. That gives them an influence in our business.

Way beyond me and can’t see the situation arising be we have a habit of invoking Sod’s law.
 
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brownblade said:
I genuinely dreamt we'd signed Brewster last night. I think that's the third dream in about 3 weeks... Make it reality Blades!
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Bloody hell, I had another dream about Brewster being on United's teamsheet last night. This is getting ridiculous nowwwwaaaaait a minute...
 
Tier 1 article. Fee said to be £18m guaranteed, with the other £5.5m add-ons. No fee on the buyback amount but described as a fair amount if his development continues. Also:

Brewster also held talks with Crystal Palace over a possible return to London but was enthused about moving to Sheffield United after a passionate pitch from their manager Chris Wilder, who has long since admired him.

theathletic.com

Why Liverpool let Rhian Brewster go

Brewster is leaving Liverpool, the club he joined five years ago and where he was tipped to star, to join Sheffield United
theathletic.com theathletic.com
 
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Blade56 said:
But Shirley that calls into question the third party ownership question. Just imagine we get to a position where it’s down to one game for a place in Europe or a cup and Liverpool pull the plug on our only striker (others injured) by invoking the buy back. That gives them an influence in our business.

Way beyond me and can’t see the situation arising be we have a habit of invoking Sod’s law.
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I would hope we have an agreement that should Liverpool want to buy him back that it can only be at the end of the season, if they can come back whenever they choose or to sell him on to someone else for more money then that smacks of third party influence or ownership.
 

darleyblade said:
Sorry, this has nothing to do with the buyback arrangement, but it just occurred to me that we can now field a team with six players all having a surname beginning with B: Baldock, Basham, Berge, Bogle, Burke and Brewster.

Has this ever happened before...with any letter of the alphabet, let alone B? Over to you, Silent...

I apologise if it has already been said somewhere in this massive thread, but in the interest of reaching 400 pages...
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74-5 We had Faulkner, Franks, Flynn, Field and France in the squad.
 
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