CONFIRMED Rhian Brewster

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Not sure i want to spend big money on a kid who has had half a season in the championship and didn't exactly set it alight.

Maybe showing my bias but im convinced a lot of kids who come through the big academies are vastly over rated...James Wilson, Ben Woodburn, John Cofie spring to mind
 
FriethBlade said:
Not sure i want to spend big money on a kid who has had half a season in the championship and didn't exactly set it alight.

Maybe showing my bias but im convinced a lot of kids who come through the big academies are vastly over rated...James Wilson, Ben Woodburn, John Cofie spring to mind
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And many are not and go on to be top top players...
 
FriethBlade said:
Not sure i want to spend big money on a kid who has had half a season in the championship and didn't exactly set it alight.

Maybe showing my bias but im convinced a lot of kids who come through the big academies are vastly over rated...James Wilson, Ben Woodburn, John Cofie spring to mind
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Didn't exactly set it alight? He scored 1 in 2 and pulled Swansea from mid table to the play offs, what more do you want him to do?
 
Cannot in a million years see this coming off. I though a loan was unlikely enough to be fair.

FriethBlade said:
Not sure i want to spend big money on a kid who has had half a season in the championship and didn't exactly set it alight.

Maybe showing my bias but im convinced a lot of kids who come through the big academies are vastly over rated...James Wilson, Ben Woodburn, John Cofie spring to mind
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Disagree with you on that - Lots of very good premier League players have failed to make the grade at top sides but go on to have great careers.

Even Just taking the likes of Burnley (a club we should be looking to for lessons about establishing ourselves) the likes of nick pope, Heaton, M. Keane, and McNeill all played for Man U previously I believe. Ben Mee and tripper used to be at city I think.... all of which would get into our squad.

lots of examples of people that go on to have top careers even after being let go, which makes sense because they can hoover up just about every talented youngster in the country.
 
HydeParkBlade said:
Nixon just tweeted we're trying to buy him for £15 million. I think that's complete bollocks.
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Well that would change my whole mind on the deal. If we can buy him then I'm 100% supportive as we get all the benefit.
My concerns around him remain, and I don't think he'd start initially, but he's got some talent and I would be chuffed to fuck with him permanently.
I'd be happy with more than £15 million to be honest but hope it doesn't alert the likes of Villa and Fulham.


Chabuddy G said:
It's nuts. They rate him highly why would they sell him for £15mil?

Klopp hasn't blocked loaning either he just doesn't want to loan him out just yet
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They need the money to push on.
 
Wasn't the talk that Liverpool were some way apart from Bayern Munich in terms of their valuations of Thiago Alcantara? Or at least the sense was anyway that Liverpool were needing to be fairly prudent in their dealings. With that in mind, getting a decent chunk for someone who will be on the periphery of their squad this season, at best, does make a bit more sense. Particularly if there's a buy back (ie. which would only likely be used when the world is more normal and Liverpool would have more money to spend).
 
LondonBlade89 said:
Wasn't the talk that Liverpool were some way apart from Bayern Munich in terms of their valuations of Thiago Alcantara? Or at least the sense was anyway that Liverpool were needing to be fairly prudent in their dealings. With that in mind, getting a decent chunk for someone who will be on the periphery of their squad this season, at best, does make a bit more sense. Particularly if there's a buy back (ie. which would only likely be used when the world is more normal and Liverpool would have more money to spend).
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That's what I said in shoutbox. They apparently need to sell to buy. But surely they could just raise that by selling one of their midfielders like Grujic or Ox?
 

I'm not sure we'd even test the waters if we'd not been tipped off he may be available by 'pool or the lad's agent.

I reckon the similar transfers of Solanke and Ibe going to muff will perhaps make this more likely too. Pool will have likely had buy back clauses in there too and those transfers worked out a treat. Had they loaned them in the Premier League for a extended spell, everyone would have been put off. Ultimately, they got inflated fees when otherwise they wouldn't.

That's not to say that will we get him and other clubs won't come in to gazzump us, but the risk will be entirely with us.
 
S15Blade said:
And many are not and go on to be top top players...
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Opinions mate...Woodburn was the next coming...didn't even make our team in the championship then loaned to Oxford in divison one...where again he didnt stand out. He was rated very highly at Liverpool but will never play for them.

And to say many are not is just plane wrong, if you had said some I'd tske it seriously...the vast majority of academy kids never 'make it' even those thst are still in academies at 18-19yrs old.

Now Brewster could very easily be different but given our budgetary constraints id be careful about spending big bicks on him.
 
Chabuddy G said:
Fear you’re right. But with a player like Brewster who’s at a top club already, you’d suspect he might decide to pick the best club/manager for him rather than chase the money. If it were true of course.
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Let’s dare to dream for a minute but look at this logically.
The only way Liverpool would be doing this is if they need some short term financial support, otherwise they’d keep all their young prospects.
However we’ve seen that recently they can’t compete with the top clubs in the country on transfers currently, being outbid even by Chelsea so maybe the wilderness years have left a bit of a legacy.
A successful Liverpool side can turn that around but is it possible they’ve seen a sell with buy back option as a genuine option for a short term injection of cash to keep them in and around the top teams in Europe?
Again, if you’d accept that it’s a possibility, then you would be looking at the best club to coach and develop the player as the buy back option would be the same wherever they go.
If all this conjecture has any basis in truth then I could see us being at the very top of the list of clubs Liverpool would want to be dealing with.
 
Liverpool also seem to have a different business model when it comes to young talent than say a Chelsea who buy them young to loan them out repeatedly and then make a profit on loan fees generated and the eventual fee when sold at around 24 years of age. Liverpool’s youth system currently does actually look orientated to producing first teams players therefore it may make good ideological and business sense to move Brewster and Wilson on (with first option or buy back clauses) if they are deemed currently not good enough to challenge in order to not block the pathway for other youngsters lower down the system.
 
This lad is different gravy to Woodburn. If we got him for £15m, suspect LFC would put a buy back clause of £25m. The upside on him is pretty high, as in he‘s expected to be in and around the national team and a top, top player. Wow’d for Swansea.

This is a Hendo loan not a Woodburn loan chaps.
 
Rodley said:
This lad is different gravy to Woodburn. If we got him for £15m, suspect LFC would put a buy back clause of £25m. The upside on him is pretty high, as in he‘s expected to be in and around the national team and a top, top player. Wow’d for Swansea.

This is a Hendo loan not a Woodburn loan chaps.
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Totally agree with this, Brewster is on a totally different level to Woodburn, would be a fantastic signing.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Let’s dare to dream for a minute but look at this logically.
The only way Liverpool would be doing this is if they need some short term financial support, otherwise they’d keep all their young prospects.
However we’ve seen that recently they can’t compete with the top clubs in the country on transfers currently, being outbid even by Chelsea so maybe the wilderness years have left a bit of a legacy.
A successful Liverpool side can turn that around but is it possible they’ve seen a sell with buy back option as a genuine option for a short term injection of cash to keep them in and around the top teams in Europe?
Again, if you’d accept that it’s a possibility, then you would be looking at the best club to coach and develop the player as the buy back option would be the same wherever they go.
If all this conjecture has any basis in truth then I could see us being at the very top of the list of clubs Liverpool would want to be dealing with.
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The ownership model at Liverpool is markedly different to Chelsea and Citeh in particular. Their owners are wealthy enough but not a billionaire like an Ambramovic or in Citeh’s case an oil rich country. Nor do they have the commercial might of a Manchester United so they by necessity will work differently.
From a Liverpool perspective it might be interesting to note what’s happening with the owners other team the Red Sox MLB team where after years of overspending they are really tightening the purse strings (by their standards). The results have so far not been great.
 
Yellarbellyblade said:
The ownership model at Liverpool is markedly different to Chelsea and Citeh in particular. Their owners are wealthy enough but not a billionaire like an Ambramovic or in Citeh’s case an oil rich country. Nor do they have the commercial might of a Manchester United so they by necessity will work differently.
From a Liverpool perspective it might be interesting to note what’s happening with the owners other team the Red Sox MLB team where after years of overspending they are really tightening the purse strings (by their standards). The results have so far not been great.
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I'm just trying to see why they may be interested in selling their young talent.
If you can recoup £15-20 million in the short term, don't have to worry about wages or keeping them happy, and then have a buy back option of £30-40 Million each close season then it could be a viable model and better than loaning out. Liverpool can afford transfers at that level, it's when they start getting over £60-70 Million I think they're currently struggling with.
In reality they're only likely to want to bring back a fraction of those who go out on loan so I think it's possible.
 
Suomi_Blade said:
Totally agree with this, Brewster is on a totally different level to Woodburn, would be a fantastic signing.
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Just has a look at Liverpool forum and they can’t believe it either. If it’s true it will be with a buy back and add ons like £5m if he scores 15 goals this season. Which would be great as those 15 goals will keep us up. Interesting rumour but I don’t believe it
 
He scored two for Liverpool in their most recent pre-season friendly. Here's what Klopp had to say about him:

"Rhian is a young boy and he knows that. He can learn a lot of things but he's a natural goalscorer – that's what he is. He has to be more involved in the game when he's on the pitch, but I have to say in the decisive moments he's 100 per cent there. I like that a lot and he's a wonderful kid, so that's all good."

Based on that, I think a loan is more likely, and if they are unwilling to loan him, it's presumably because they plan on having him in their squad this year.
 
FriethBlade said:
Opinions mate...Woodburn was the next coming...didn't even make our team in the championship then loaned to Oxford in divison one...where again he didnt stand out. He was rated very highly at Liverpool but will never play for them.

And to say many are not is just plane wrong, if you had said some I'd tske it seriously...the vast majority of academy kids never 'make it' even those thst are still in academies at 18-19yrs old.

Now Brewster could very easily be different but given our budgetary constraints id be careful about spending big bicks on him.
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You do realise every top player came through an academy, in a lot of cases from big clubs too... Can't compare to Woodburn who was going out to try and play his first lot of adult football really. Brewster has already done that and proven he can contribute.
 

S15Blade said:
You do realise every top player came through an academy, in a lot of cases from big clubs too... Can't compare to Woodburn who was going out to try and play his first lot of adult football really. Brewster has already done that and proven he can contribute.
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Course I do and you do realise for the thousands that go into the academy system very few make it...even those still in it at 18?

Course u can compare to Woodburn, at the 'time' he was at least as good a 'prospect', he'd played first team football for Liverpool and scored a wonder goal for his country.

Its only in hindsight that Brewster looks a better prospect the same stuff was said about Woodburn at the time.

Don't get me wrong Brewster may well become a top player but I think hed be a risky signing and if Liverpool do rate him there's no way he's coming here for 15m. A loan would make more sense for both parties.
 
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