CONFIRMED Rhian Brewster

[Dublinblade]

Batshuyai about to sign new Chelsea contract and join Palace for the year on loan. Palace also going to take Gallagher on loan.

Eh no there not. You cant loan 2 from the same team

 

[BushBlade]

Why are Chelsea extending his contract? He’s 26, if he’s not good enough for them now, when will he be?

 

[Liaminho9]

I think Villa have a player from Manchester City with a buy back clause so they’re obviously not averse to them

Douglas Luiz

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Douglas Luiz

That’s the chap

 

[LondonBlade89]

Why are Chelsea extending his contract? He’s 26, if he’s not good enough for them now, when will he be?

Probably to keep his resale value high. If Palace are paying a significant amount of wages anyway, it’s not much extra cost for Chelsea to take on. I’m guessing but I imagine that’s probably the logic.

 

[BushBlade]

Probably to keep his resale value high. If Palace are paying a significant amount of wages anyway, it’s not much extra cost for Chelsea to take on. I’m guessing but I imagine that’s probably the logic.

Why not just sell him? Unless Palace are the only ones interested and they can’t afford him, I suppose. Strange times.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Eh no there not. You cant loan 2 from the same team

Did not know that. Well that's immediately made my post irrelevant haha!

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Would be a Top signing , He has been touted as the next best English talent up there with Foden/Greenwood

Won the U18 World Cup and was player of the tournament

Then did his cruciate and was out for a year which put him back when players from that tournament have kicked on like foden/greenwood

If we could sign him for £20 million it would be an absoloute bargain and Liverpool would be crazy to sell unless they stuck a buy back clause in

 

[Tarqs]

I reckon he would be a solanke or an ibe

Solanke hasn't scored goals anywhere, other than england youth.
Ibe....hasn't done anything anywhere.

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

Thing is, they'd be looking for 20m+ I think. My concerns would be:
a) it seems a very high fee for 1 good season in the Championship
b) we simply don't have that money to spend to the best of my knowledge, and
c) the buy back fee would have to be sufficiently high enough for it to be worth our while developing him.

Don't get me wrong, if we went out and spent 20m on him tomorrow I'd have an erection you could hang a wet towel on, but I wonder if there are less risky purchases out there with potentially higher resale value.

We did a similar gamble last season with McBurnie. No sell on clause though (I don't think).

 

[Gin&Juice]

 

[Houso]

If Burke is indeed a loan, and with Villa, Newcastle and Palace all getting strikers from elsewhere (though they may want more than one), I'm starting to believe that we're going to get him on a permanent deal more and more.

(I don't think we're even in for Dennis)

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Suggests that the Watkins deal may drive up the price.

 

[Harrisblade]

I hope I'm wrong but I cannot see us buying Brewster. I'm not sure where we are gonna get this spare 15M-20M to put down an offer.

A loan (if necessary) based on a small portion of next seasons income?

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Unless the buy back fee was double our outlay I'd tell them to ram their deal.

Well that's one way of turning down (potential) 10 million quid

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Suggests that the Watkins deal may drive up the price.

At £20M it very quickly becomes not worth doing for us once it starts moving towards £25M I'd say, IF it's not at the expense of a buy back.
If it is, I'd be tempted to walk away. He's not the finished product, he not even a Premier league forward who's likely to start, so for that money we may as well go for King as the better option. I'm sure we've got the money to do these deals, but I'm not sure it makes sense on Brewster for a player who isn't ready made yet but hopefully will be a superstar.

 

[Houso]

I hope I'm wrong but I cannot see us buying Brewster. I'm not sure where we are gonna get this spare 15M-20M to put down an offer.

I actually think we're holding back a bit of budget for our final signing of the window. I also think that Wilder has done some wheeling and dealing to save some cash from other areas of the pitch.

For instance, I wonder if maybe he had some money set aside for a central defender (we were heavily linked with Worrall early doors) - ended up getting Ampadu on loan (no doubt still a fee and wages, but significant savings).

Then we know were in for Cash. 6m + 4m was our opening bid. There's no reason to think we didn't have more room, but decided not to go back for him. Ended up getting Bogle and Lowe for (likely) the same amount.

Speaking of Lowe, we know we had budget for Robinson. It wasn't a huge bid, but there's still a good 1.5m saved there.

Another player we were almost certainly in for was John Swift. The bid there was apparently 3.5million at least. Looks like we've drawn a line under that and instead Lunny is hanging around. Maybe this one will be revisited if the latter does end up going. Ampadu is also able to cover in this area.

Sod knows what's happening with Burke. We don't know if it's loan or not, but you would have to hazard a guess that we knew Robinson was always going, so not sure how this fee was factored in.

And finally, we always needed a new face up front, so monies would be set aside here (for a fee or loan who knows).

All in all, I think we have more money for a striker than originally estimated and Wilder has been keeping it under his hat.

Please note, a lot of this is typed in hope rather than certain expectation.

 

[tincan]

Brewster despite his lack of games does look a star and is the only signing that is an upgrad. Burke for me is another Ricky Holmes.
King would be an upgrade of course and would fit in with Sander and Rammers already here. Maybe CWAK can make something of Jordan Ibe as he is on a free.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

At £20M it very quickly becomes not worth doing for us once it starts moving towards £25M I'd say, IF it's not at the expense of a buy back.
If it is, I'd be tempted to walk away. He's not the finished product, he not even a Premier league forward who's likely to start, so for that money we may as well go for King as the better option. I'm sure we've got the money to do these deals, but I'm not sure it makes sense on Brewster for a player who isn't ready made yet but hopefully will be a superstar.

We don’t buy players who are nearly 30 cause they will be worth nothing in a few years and have no resale value it’s clearly a strategy for our signings and a very good one that way we aren’t left with deadwood if we were ever to be relegated


We didn’t know that mcburnie/Osborne/moussett/bogle/Lowe/ampadu would be premier league quality

 

[YES Blade]

Unless the buy back fee was double our outlay I'd tell them to ram their deal.

Agreed, we'd be taking all the risk and it would be win-win for Liverpool. If he turns into a flop, Liverpool have pocketed £20m, if he turns into a Champions League standard player they're getting him back for a fraction of his true value.

The buy back value should be at least £20m above the fee we pay for him.

 

[Johnnyblade]

I’m thinking the same that if Wilder needed a striker then some money would be assigned for that,I would prefer Brewster to Dennis

 

[Blade56]

At £20M it very quickly becomes not worth doing for us once it starts moving towards £25M I'd say, IF it's not at the expense of a buy back.
If it is, I'd be tempted to walk away. He's not the finished product, he not even a Premier league forward who's likely to start, so for that money we may as well go for King as the better option. I'm sure we've got the money to do these deals, but I'm not sure it makes sense on Brewster for a player who isn't ready made yet but hopefully will be a superstar.

Don’t think Liverpool (in fact Klopp) would let him go to the club spunkin the money, he’s in the same mould as Wilder (I’d like to think) in that he wants the player developing so he can have him back the finished product ie Henderson. Might just be wishful thinking, he might end up at Villa or Palace

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

We don’t buy players who are nearly 30 cause they will be worth nothing in a few years and have no resale value it’s clearly a strategy for our signings and a very good one that way we aren’t left with deadwood if we were ever to be relegated


We didn’t know that mcburnie/Osborne/moussett/bogle/Lowe/ampadu would be premier league quality

We also didn’t pay £25M for them with a nice buy back clause either. Brewster is too expensive at that price and King is 28 not nearly 30 and would cost much less so you aren’t expecting the return.
Brewster great for 2-3 years time, King great now.

 

[bladesmanluke]

Anything over £20m they have to bin the buy back clause it's ridiculous.

It effectively becomes the most expensive loan signing in history if he's any good.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Don’t think Liverpool (in fact Klopp) would let him go to the club spunkin the money, he’s in the same mould as Wilder (I’d like to think) in that he wants the player developing so he can have him back the finished product ie Henderson. Might just be wishful thinking, he might end up at Villa or Palace

He needs the money to spend. While I’d like to agree they’d rather sell to those who would develop him the best, I think money talks at the minute for them. Especially as everyone else around them can and are strengthening

 

[Balham]

Anything over £20m they have to bin the buy back clause it's ridiculous.

It effectively becomes the most expensive loan signing in history if he's any good.

The buy back clause would be significantly above whatever the initial transfer fee was. It would also probably go up over the next 3 years.

Brewster bought Summer 2020 - £20m
Liverpool option Summer 2021 - £30m
Liverpool option Winter 2022 - £35m
Liverpool option Summer 2022 - £40m and so on. Add in £5m if he makes a competitive appearance for England etc.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

The buy back clause would be significantly above whatever the initial transfer fee was. It would also probably go up over the next 3 years.

Brewster bought Summer 2020 - £20m
Liverpool option Summer 2021 - £30m
Liverpool option Winter 2022 - £35m
Liverpool option Summer 2022 - £40m and so on. Add in £5m if he makes a competitive appearance for England etc.

Exactly. If anything a buyback option would be the most expensive loan for Liverpool, not us.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

The buy back clause would be significantly above whatever the initial transfer fee was. It would also probably go up over the next 3 years.

Brewster bought Summer 2020 - £20m
Liverpool option Summer 2021 - £30m
Liverpool option Winter 2022 - £35m
Liverpool option Summer 2022 - £40m and so on. Add in £5m if he makes a competitive appearance for England etc.

Can you stipulate in a buy-back that it can't be exercised with a view to an immediate (defined term) re-sale?

You could well imagine a striker becoming worth £30m after firing double figures in the PL at a young age, but good enough for Liverpool? That would be different.

 

[Yogi]

Can you stipulate in a buy-back that it can't be exercised with a view to an immediate (defined term) re-sale?

You could well imagine a striker becoming worth £30m after firing double figures in the PL at a young age, but good enough for Liverpool? That would be different.

I believe you can he’s for example umpamecano at Leipzig has a release clause last year didn’t have one this year but has one again next year (very weird example but true) a lot of clauses are time limited

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I believe you can he’s for example umpamecano at Leipzig has a release clause last year didn’t have one this year but has one again next year (very weird example but true) a lot of clauses are time limited

Because if the lad genuinely fulfilled his potential & Liverpool wanted to bring him back in a couple of year's time and we stood to make even just £10-15m on it, you'd say fair enough. We'd have had 2 years of great output from the deal and he'd be moving on for a profit to the club of his dreams.

But I'd hate to be shithoused and for Liverpool to exercise the buyback, only to flog him the next day at a profit to Aston Villa after their latest wacky venture hasn't panned out too well for them...