Retrospective Bans For Diving

[ForgeBlade]

Retrospectively then, would Morgan have received a ban for not going through with tackling gerrard in the penalty area, but actually thinking of doing so.

With the way the authorities and media fawned over the hypocritical diving scouse twat, Morgs would have been sentenced to hang for even daring to be within 5 yards of "Steeeeeeeevie Geeeeeee (insert excessive scouse phlegm here)"

God I hate that man.

 

[1889]

I hope they extend it to feigning injury too, getting caught on the ankle and rolling around holding their face etc, 'Rivaldo stylee', or the like of Michael Higdons victims Oscar nominated performance away at Chesterfield

 

[bornablade]

Been wanting this for years.

Needs sorting out, but will be interesting to see how they apply it.
Because in my view, I can't be doing with the view that a player has a right to go down if they feel contact.
It's a contact sport, some form of contact should be expected. It's down to players to be honest and to carry on if they are able and let the referee d code if the contact impeded the player in possession.
Players should NOT be trying to force a referees decision, end of story.

However, I suspect this will only be enforced if a clear dive is proven....i.e. No contact and thrown to the floor.

In our 2006/07 season Leigh Bromby was 'tripped' in the box at Everton but tried to carry on - unfortunately the attack came to nothing. His honesty was applauded but if he'd gone over then that 'goal' could have made all the difference at the end of the season.

 

[S5Blade]

Now the details have been released, not as impressive as first thought.....

Only for the premier league and:

Only incidents that result in a player winning a penalty or lead to an opponent being sent off - through either a direct red card or two yellow cards - will be punished.

The FA says it will act "where there is clear and overwhelming evidence to suggest a match official has been deceived by an act of simulation, and as a direct result, the offending player's team has been awarded a penalty and/or an opposing player has been dismissed".

 

[shrubbery]

To be fair though, most diving incidents do happen once the offending player has crossed the line into the penalty box for obvious reasons.

Hopefully this will be a successful trial and then applied to all other leagues.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

To be fair though, most diving incidents do happen once the offending player has crossed the line into the penalty box for obvious reasons.

Hopefully this will be a successful trial and then applied to all other leagues.

Already in use in Scotland, how is/has that panned out?

Anyone know?

 

[HibbyBlade]

They have been doing this in the Scottish leagues for a while now and it's hardly stamped it out.

While it's satisfying seeing a cheating fecker get a ban, it is still costing teams points sadly.

 

[Revolution]

This is a big step in the right direction, with two added benefits:

1. Hopefully it makes video replay - which I am 100% against - less likely.

2. It essentially ends Forestieri's career as it bans the only thing he does well.

 

[grafikhaus]

Poorly thought-out and, as ever, the serial cheats from Man. City, Chelsea, Man. Utd. etc. will get the usual preferential treatment. Last night, in the Luton v Blackpool play-off semi, Luton's Hylton was guilty of an outrageous dive. The ref. gave the penalty and Hylton himself got up to score the penalty. As it happens, Luton eventually lost, but what if that pen. had cost Blackpool the tie and all the financial rewards that come from a Wembley appearance and promotion to a higher league? It would hardly compensate them to know that Hylton had got a 2-match ban.

If that little cheating cunt Forestieri had dived the other night, won a penalty and that's what got the pigs to Wembley, the PL and £200m? Do you think the pigs would give a fuck about a retrospective 2 match ban for him?

 

[Grizzly blade]

In our 2006/07 season Leigh Bromby was 'tripped' in the box at Everton but tried to carry on - unfortunately the attack came to nothing. His honesty was applauded but if he'd gone over then that 'goal' could have made all the difference at the end of the season.

Of course there is also no guarantee the ref would have given it if he had fallen dramatically to the ground, or if he had that we would have scored it.
he may have been impeded, but not enough to go down. The ref could still have given a penalty with the contact there was, and it's that attitude that needs to be changed too.

A ref needs to be told that a player doesn't have to be knocked over to be fouled. And if that was the case we might see a few more advantages being played and if it leads to no shot or cross then bring it back for the foul. The reason I say that is this...the aim of the game is to score goals, and this is done through shots and headers from passes or crosses.
If a player is prevented from doing that due to foul play, fair enough. But if he is able to carry on and get the cross in or shot then that was the original intention and type of play.
It isn't to get into the box, invite some contact and fall over and by making everyone honest it will improve the game and at the same time make a refs job easier IMHO

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

Already had one myself.
Came flying up the M1 one thinking the cameras weren't on because it was a bank holiday, but no, several days later the bleeders sent me photographic evidence and that was it. No car for 6 months.

Edit: Oops, sorry. Not got mi glasses on.

 

[Grizzly blade]

Poorly thought-out and, as ever, the serial cheats from Man. City, Chelsea, Man. Utd. etc. will get the usual preferential treatment. Last night, in the Luton v Blackpool play-off semi, Luton's Hylton was guilty of an outrageous dive. The ref. gave the penalty and Hylton himself got up to score the penalty. As it happens, Luton eventually lost, but what if that pen. had cost Blackpool the tie and all the financial rewards that come from a Wembley appearance and promotion to a higher league? It would hardly compensate them to know that Hylton had got a 2-match ban.

If that little cheating cunt Forestieri had dived the other night, won a penalty and that's what got the pigs to Wembley, the PL and £200m? Do you think the pigs would give a fuck about a retrospective 2 match ban for him?

Absolutely, and you rightly say it is ill thought out. They didn't need to have a rigid framework of punishment, and could have left that to be decided depending on the gravity of the situation in question at the time.
the punishment isn't tough enough, and the player AND club should be punished. A manager can stamp out diving at a club in a month if he wants and you can bet that disgrace Allardyce would do so if he was being fined every time, and his team heading towards a point deduction.

I would have players to receive 5 game bans with a fine included of 5 weeks wages. The manager of the team to receive a five week wage fine too, and the club to get a strike.
3 strikes and it's a 5 point deduction, with a 3 point deduction for every strike thereafter.

Diving would then be a thing of the past for good, its the points they play for ultimately so hit them there

 

[I should coco]

As Linz just said, probably a bit easier now Gerrard and a few others have retired.

Eh? Stevie G is English and he regularly pointed out it was the 'foreigners' wot done it.

Poorly thought-out and, as ever, the serial cheats from Man. City, Chelsea, Man. Utd. etc. will get the usual preferential treatment

I think you will find that their expensive stars have 'momentum' and have to go down under the Laws of Physics. The cheating foreigners at Stoke, West Brom and Burnley will get hammered though.

 

[Norderner]

If it's a clear dive, like Hylton's last night, that had resulted in Luton winning the game, it should result in a 6 match ban for the guilty player and a replay.

 

[Damski]

"Under the new rules, passed by the governing body at its annual general meeting on Thursday, a panel will review footage each Monday looking for cases of simulation."

This would be my dream job

 

[I should coco]

This would be my dream job

"Forrestfairy"?

"Guilty and give him a ten season ban"

"But we haven't even shown you the video yet......."

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

I'm not sure why the player should be punished more, just because the ref missed it. If the punishment for diving is a yellow card, then surely the retrospective punishment should be a yellow card - not necessarily a ban.

Either way, diving is bad, but what really annoys me is the feigning injuries. Obviously, it will be difficult to say, categorically, that a player wasn't at all hurt, but they need to do something.

 

[Damski]

"Forrestfairy"?

"Guilty and give him a ten season ban"

"But we haven't even shown you the video yet......."

"Seize his assetts and exile him to Siberia."

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

Dele Alli isn't going to be playing many games is he.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2321113/fans-furious-tottenham-dele-alli-dive-swansea/

 

[BushBlade]

Already had one myself.
Came flying up the M1 one thinking the cameras weren't on because it was a bank holiday, but no, several days later the bleeders sent me photographic evidence and that was it. No car for 6 months.

Edit: Oops, sorry. Not got mi glasses on.

Why would they turn the cameras off because it's a bank holiday? It's one of the busiest times and when crashes frequently occur. I see people flying past speed cameras and I've often thought (and bored my mates too droning on about it) 'don't people understand how cameras work?' It's never occurred to me that people would just take a gamble that they might not be switched on.

 

[Superblades]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39962886

As of next season, not sure what divisions it applies too, but this is superb news and might actually stamp it out!

About time!

 

[I should coco]

Why would they turn the cameras off because it's a bank holiday? It's one of the busiest times and when crashes frequently occur.

Thank you Nick Ross and Chief Inspector Hatcher for the safety update.

I see people flying past speed cameras and I've often thought (and bored my mates too droning on about it)

Your mates sound like a right bunch of idiots so ignore them and tell us more.......

 

[BushBlade]

Thank you Nick Ross and Chief Inspector Hatcher for the safety update.



Your mates sound like a right bunch of idiots so ignore them and tell us more.......

OK. Well I drive up the M1 quite a lot, not so much to see the Blades or my family but to fly to Jakarta where my fake Viagra importing business is based. I like to fly from Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Aerodrome as it's cheap and they serve Yorkshire puddings and gravy in flight.

On many occasions I've observed automobiles travelling in excess of the designated speed limits on stretches of carriageway over which there are numerous mounted speed cameras. They're fairly easy to see and one's attention is drawn to them by the accompanying road signs showing pictures of cameras.

Therefore, I find it difficult to comprehend why drivers of said automobiles chose to ignore the cameras. Is it because they can afford the fines and are happy to get points on their licence? Is it because they're so stupid they don't realise that the cameras will take a photograph of them speeding and they will subsequently be punished?

And on a separate note, why do drivers approach a line of traffic at high speed and then hit the brakes at the last minute?

 

[I should coco]

OK. Well I drive up the M1 quite a lot, not so much to see the Blades or my family but to fly to Jakarta where my fake Viagra importing business is based.

Good lad and honesty is the best policy. Now you've fessed up you'll feel much better and you don't have to keep pretending you live in the Smoke nor that you have any 'mates'.

On many occasions I've observed automobiles travelling in excess of the designated speed limits on stretches of carriageway over which there are numerous mounted speed cameras. They're fairly easy to see and one's attention is drawn to them by the accompanying road signs showing pictures of cameras.

I didn't see any of those on the way back from MK. Mind you I was doing over a ton most of the time so they'd have been gone in a flash. Er...

 

[grafikhaus]

Eh? Stevie G is English and he regularly pointed out it was the 'foreigners' wot done it.



I think you will find that their expensive stars have 'momentum' and have to go down under the Laws of Physics. The cheating foreigners at Stoke, West Brom and Burnley will get hammered though.

Playes like West Brom's James McClean, Stoke's Ryan Shawcross and Leicester's Robert Huth should be sent off as they come down the tunnel at the start of a match. It would save time later.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

I thought it was a great idea but now I see BFS is against it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39963445
"Crystal Palace manager Sam Allardyce says the Football Association's decision to introduce retrospective bans for players who dive from next season is "utter rubbish".

Even more reason to think it is a good idea then if that fat old fart who can't keep his god shut, doesn't like it.

Thought Fat Sam would have been all for it tbh

 

[shorehamview]

And on a separate note, why do drivers approach a line of traffic at high speed and then hit the brakes at the last minute?

It's a HUGE adrenaline rush, that's why.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

Why would they turn the cameras off because it's a bank holiday? It's one of the busiest times and when crashes frequently occur. I see people flying past speed cameras and I've often thought (and bored my mates too droning on about it) 'don't people understand how cameras work?' It's never occurred to me that people would just take a gamble that they might not be switched on.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

where my fake Viagra importing business is based.

Ah, I believe you sent me an email.


Also, at the risk of hijacking the thread, why, as I'm slowing down at a red light, does the person behind me, who then moves lane to go left or right, find it necessary to "overtake" before then braking hard at the line? What is the point of that?

 

[Kev Gee]

Only because big nose Sam probably coaches his players to go down easy would he have an issue with it.

They should be docking points or striking off goals scored from conning referees though.