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Only 6 weeks till your weekends are fucked again .................. :)

Those days are gone...........CW understands us - that is the difference.

It won't be a bed of roses by any stretch of the imagination and there will be some dark days - but the SUFC fight back has started.

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We will go nowhere while the fuckers at the top have no ambition - an ambitious chairman would pay the 7 cunts off and give the manager funds to buy some new players


I think that's what's happening in truth, but the owner is ambitious but not naive like you if you would just pay them off so soon without negotiating when they themselves have somewhere to go. Think about it a bit.
 
In his own inimitable way the O.P. captures some of the reality of our situation, maybe not for the right reasons but reality nevertheless.

There is no doubt that the drastic surgery needed recently leaves us exposed because even if we had twice the budget of any other club it would be a challenge to settle in so many new players all at once, even if they were paid three times the salary of opposition players. Football's not about who's paid what, over 46 games it's who belongs the most and believes the most and has the bottle and commitment. At a new club that takes time to develop.

If only us loyal, dedicated, knowledgeable Blades fans would ever accept a message from our new manager that this season is stage one of the re-build and promotion would be a bonus but cannot reasonably be regarded as a priority.
 
In his own inimitable way the O.P. captures some of the reality of our situation, maybe not for the right reasons but reality nevertheless.

There is no doubt that the drastic surgery needed recently leaves us exposed because even if we had twice the budget of any other club it would be a challenge to settle in so many new players all at once, even if they were paid three times the salary of opposition players. Football's not about who's paid what, over 46 games it's who belongs the most and believes the most and has the bottle and commitment. At a new club that takes time to develop.

If only us loyal, dedicated, knowledgeable Blades fans would ever accept a message from our new manager that this season is stage one of the re-build and promotion would be a bonus but cannot reasonably be regarded as a priority.

They aren't the right reasons at all Woodwardfan

Looking on so far throughout this close season, but not looking too closely, I can already see the same mistakes being replicated.

Drastic surgery for me reads getting shut of as many of the high earners as possible partly because they have under performed, and partly because it seems to be like the wage budget has needed to be slashed again, and can anyone explain why despite why we have been told our wage budget should be enough to get us promoted, we couldn't even compete with the likes of Burton, Gillingham, Walsall and Barnsley last season.

it needs the right money being spent in the right places, but whilst ever we have got Kevin McCabe trying to run a football club as he would a property company, and our absentee Saudi co-owner sat in the Saudi Arabian government in stony silence and the vague promise of jam tomorrow if we get promoted to the Championship a vague and distant memory in the sands of time, will anything ever change?

Might be over reacting but I do fear that this season, the stagnation is so ingrained in to the whole over riding culture of Sheffield United, that we may be sleepwalking in to a place nobody even dared to contemplate and the is sleepwalking in to the bottom tier.....
 
Don't know what you're worrying about brownie all will be well after McCabe blows a bit of warm air up selected "fans" arseholes at the fans forums, I don't know what more you want is not a 10% reduction in the price of your ST not enough?
 
Whilst I'd rather we had one or two more signings, the perspective for me is this. Tafazolli might have been a decent part of the puzzle, but he seems to have chased the money instead and signed for Peterborough. We might be in busted flush territory just for now, but can you EVER see Peterborough achieving the heights we achieved? I really don't think they will.

The signings Charlton beat us to, for me minor pieces of a bigger puzzle if they had come here, there are equal or better options out there I'm sure. We move on.

I have a lot of sympathy for what Brownie has written, heartfelt as always. But I prefer to see it this way. We have a manager who has found an upward curve, and has an affinity to our club. He will at times be banging heads with our beloved board, who have put money in but spent it foolishly and knee jerked when some testicular fortitude would have been the better way to go. But that will be the case whether it's Wilder or Van Gaal.

I like the cut of Wilder's jib so far. If he can walk like he can talk, I feel he will drag performances out of even our more average players. They will be left in no doubt about what he expects, because it will be the same as what we expect. We might be on the bones of our arse, but we are still Sheffield United. The players would do well to realise this, and to realise that if they give everything they have, they will leave a mark that means more than money, cars, or slappers on tap, they will become heroes, living the dream that a washed up bastard like me still cling onto when literally everything else is turning into shit. People will talk about them long after they, and us, are gone.

I'm in a juxtaposition... I hope that The Crab is right... but brownie has a point, too many of the squad clearly didn't have the desire or professionalism to perform for a proven manager in Adkins, or not turn up for Clough before. So while I understand the hope that Wilder can transfer his/our Blade attitude and aspiration unto the players, another part of me thinks they will be thinking "bollox to it, I am making thousands a month for a bit of training and turning out on a Saturday".
 
it needs the right money being spent in the right places, but whilst ever we have got Kevin McCabe trying to run a football club as he would a property company, and our absentee Saudi co-owner sat in the Saudi Arabian government in stony silence and the vague promise of jam tomorrow if we get promoted to the Championship a vague and distant memory in the sands of time, will anything ever change?

No, it won't. This regime will not get us promoted.

One thing McCabe has done in this league is spend money when we were in serious trouble. I expect him to do the same again if we have a terrible start.
 
Jim Phipps spilt the truth tea about the financial position of the club: he revealed, publicly, the time it would take until we are at the stage for serious investment again. Everything we have done since, should be viewed alongside this comment. Next summer we'll have almost all of our high earners out of contract (including Sharp and Basham) and the seven dead men walking will have gone. If Chris Wilder gets us in the play offs and adds some constituent parts of a top two side - this season - he'll have done well (this was incidentally a legitimate criticism of Adkins performance last season). Its not what anybody wants to hear but, alas, it's the crushing reality.I hope he can radically surpass what I view as legitimate expectations, and become a modern day blades legend in the process.
 
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I'm in a juxtaposition... I hope that The Crab is right... but brownie has a point, too many of the squad clearly didn't have the desire or professionalism to perform for a proven manager in Adkins, or not turn up for Clough before. So while I understand the hope that Wilder can transfer his/our Blade attitude and aspiration unto the players, another part of me thinks they will be thinking "bollox to it, I am making thousands a month for a bit of training and turning out on a Saturday".

No idea if I'm going to be right to be fair, just felt like going all James Earl Jones in Field of Dreams ;)
 
No, it won't. This regime will not get us promoted.

One thing McCabe has done in this league is spend money when we were in serious trouble. I expect him to do the same again if we have a terrible start.

So why not spend it now to ensure we don't get off to a terrible start?

That is the sort of thinking that screams out to me quick fix rather than long term building.
 
So why not spend it now to ensure we don't get off to a terrible start?

That is the sort of thinking that screams out to me quick fix rather than long term building.

Because our transfer policy is run by people who appear to have no idea what they are doing.
 



As bad as we were last season, we still managed to just miss out on the play - offs. Even with the dross that's still there.

We actually missed out by eight points (behind Barnsley in 6th). Make that nine counting a massively inferior goal difference. Oh sure, we mathematically and 'on paper' had a chance until the late stages of the season but anybody who had watched us last season knew the chances of us putting a storming run together under Adkins were as remote as England winning the Euros. 'On paper'.

Plus, it was a historically-weak division with only Wigan standing out. It looks like being a whole lot stronger this time round.
 
Hate to say it but I have a nasty feeling that things will take a serious turn for the worst this season.

Wage budget slashed, loads of transfer listed wankers on the wage bill who are refusing to shift, both parties at the club still at loggerheads and clearly still embroiled in a power battle as neither want to put another penny in, but yet wants all the control. A manager untried at this level, and playing in a league full of teams packed full of the classic but limited battlers who if they have got half a brain will realise that we have got a soft underbelly and will be easily turned over.

Last season I saw the worst United side I have seen in my life and I've seen some dross, but I can't even see how we can improve it, especially if there has been wage cuts and we are still lumbered with the same nucleus of a squad we had last year.

I genuinely fear the worst for this season.
and you renewed your ST.. fucking hard core :)
 
and you renewed your ST.. fucking hard core :)

Just a loyal supporter, who will turn up to watch his team through thick and thin. Doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to have a dissenting voice, One day before I pass over to the other side. I hope that all the years of thin or thinner are rewarded by some glory, and that I can take pride in the fact that no matter how bad it got, I never walked away from my club.

PS congratulations on getting a like from Barney
 
Just how many "Stage One's" are we going to have?

Same old recycled rhetoric from the man who's presided over two relegations
and has steered United into the comfortable waters of League One/Division Three football.

McCabe's looking very much like George W.

Think about it....
 
Just how many "Stage One's" are we going to have?

Same old recycled rhetoric from the man who's presided over two relegations
and has steered United into the comfortable waters of League One/Division Three football.

McCabe's looking very much like George W.

Think about it....

Not much Shock and Awe though is there, unless its aw shit, another season in this God forsaken division ;)
 
Not much Shock and Awe though is there, unless its aw shit, another season in this God forsaken division ;)
The shock and awe is when we see a back four with Basham and Hammond in it.
 
Not much Shock and Awe though is there, unless its aw shit, another season in this God forsaken division ;)

STs needed selling.
Let's give the "sheep" something to get excited about.
Sack Adkins. Hire a "Blade" who, although a success in the divisions below, has NEVER managed in this League or higher.
Tell him to talk "BladesTalk" (scripted by one of the three) and sit back and watch as a few thousand more are sold on the back of that.

He's fuckin' brilliant at it, every season since 2011 it's been the same script, just a different puppet mouthing the words.
Trump should be calling KMc to get his advice on convincing the US voters why he'd be ideal as the next President.
 
Thinking out this earlier & I know its different level but Southampton 2 years ago at this time. 1/2 their team had left & no manager as Mauricio Pochettino left for spurs. Alot had tipped them for relegation battle. But they surprised everyone getting top 6
 
Thinking out this earlier & I know its different level but Southampton 2 years ago at this time. 1/2 their team had left & no manager as Mauricio Pochettino left for spurs. Alot had tipped them for relegation battle. But they surprised everyone getting top 6

Perhaps the strangest comparison ever.
 
Thinking out this earlier & I know its different level but Southampton 2 years ago at this time. 1/2 their team had left & no manager as Mauricio Pochettino left for spurs. Alot had tipped them for relegation battle. But they surprised everyone getting top 6

Southampton invested serious money back into the team. Another comparison, Blackpool got rid of half their team, went into pre-season games needing a load of players, got them at the last minute and then they fell from Championship to League 2.
 

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