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For all those who support Blackwell, can you explain to me what part of his management style is it that you like? What does he bring to the table?

It is a genuine question as I think he is spineless (should have resigned as per his comments, is a coward (as per hiding in his dugout for 60 minutes against Ipswich when the booing and ironic claps and letting the players take the grief), lies alot (add Kyle Walker being out for a long long time because of injury) and worst of all his ability to make central midfielders look like turds...

AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN COTTERILL NOW AND COTTERILL WHEN HE 1ST JOINED THE CLUB?

ANSWER - IN HIS FIRST SEASON HE HAD SPEED AND TONGE PLAYING HIM IN, RUNNING ONTO THE BALL. IF COTTERILL PLAYS AGAIN CHECK HOW MANY TIMES HE IS GETS THE BALL KNOCKED INTO SPACE INFRONT OF HIM IN THE OPPOSITIONS HALF. IN THE OPPOSITION'S HALF HE WILL RECEIVE THE BALL WITH HIS BACK TO GOAL 90% OF THE TIME.

Now obviously I understand there is flipside to this moron, so can someone give me one possitive about his management style that doesn't make me want to do some time inside.
 



For all those who support Blackwell, can you explain to me what part of his management style is it that you like? What does he bring to the table?

He knows how to win football matches, which is the be all and end all of the sport.
 
He knows how to win football matches..

YOU WHAT..??? :eek:

Wash your mouth out. When Blackwell was playing for his contract. we were playing to win games. Now after he's got his feet under the cushy table, we are going out not to lose games. There is a difference.
 
For all those who support Blackwell, can you explain to me what part of his management style is it that you like? What does he bring to the table?

It is a genuine question as I think he is spineless (should have resigned as per his comments, is a coward (as per hiding in his dugout for 60 minutes against Ipswich when the booing and ironic claps and letting the players take the grief), lies alot (add Kyle Walker being out for a long long time because of injury) and worst of all his ability to make central midfielders look like turds...

AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN COTTERILL NOW AND COTTERILL WHEN HE 1ST JOINED THE CLUB?

ANSWER - IN HIS FIRST SEASON HE HAD SPEED AND TONGE PLAYING HIM IN, RUNNING ONTO THE BALL. IF COTTERILL PLAYS AGAIN CHECK HOW MANY TIMES HE IS GETS THE BALL KNOCKED INTO SPACE INFRONT OF HIM IN THE OPPOSITIONS HALF. IN THE OPPOSITION'S HALF HE WILL RECEIVE THE BALL WITH HIS BACK TO GOAL 90% OF THE TIME.

Now obviously I understand there is flipside to this moron, so can someone give me one possitive about his management style that doesn't make me want to do some time inside.


No idea what his management style is like. I like Blackwell as since he's been here he has done what a good football manager should do: win games.

PS - Cotterill wasn't much different when he signed on loan, he was good in the home matches but awful in the away matches.
 
I'm ambivalent about Blackwell, can take him or leave him.

But when people are on about bringing Warnock back as the saviour, you have to look at the time it took him to get us competing. In those terms, Blackwell did inherit an expensive squad but he got us within touching distance of the play offs in his first half season and to the play off final in his first full season - a record you can't really ignore.

But in terms of the bloke himself, don't really like him. He's the United manager and while he's there, I'll support his team. But he'll be gone before I will.
 
I can’t stand the bloke myself, never have.

He is a carbon copy of Warnock. He has a huge opinion of himself, thinks he is better than he actually is when in fact he has a moderately good record. He ALWAYS plays the victim, (injury lists, no money, poor refs, shafted at Luton, agents, shafted at Leeds) and NEVER takes any responsibility for his own failings as a tactically inept manager.

His transfer dealings are laughable. Like Warnock was obsessed with strikers, Blackwell is obsessed with wingers. We have Cotts, Treacy, Little & Reid vying for 2 places and he is being linked with another two in McSheffrey and Halmosi. Yet we don’t play the type of football suited to wingers anyway! The defence meanwhile is decimated, he let Bromby go and bought in the equally awful Davies on loan and we had to rely on Del Geary who hasn’t played for 18-months and Jon Fortune who is slower than my Nan against the Dingles. Yet there is absolutely no suggestion of strengthening in that area.

Tactics are unbelievable at times. We have good FOOTBALLERS in the squad yet we don’t play to their strengths. Billy Sharp has gone out for the season and is loving at Donny because they play to his strengths. We have one of the best young strikers in the country at the club in Ched Evans and yet again we don’t play to his strengths. Instead we punt aimless balls into the carthorse that is Darius Henderson, someone who it seems is only capable of jumping 3 inches off the ground and constantly giving away possession/fouls..

He also appears to have lost the dressing room or at least he doesn’t command respect from players. This was perfectly demonstrated by Killa shouting at him that he was a “fuc*ing useless c*nt” and Willaimson making cut-throat gestures after Barnsleys second goal, both incidents were plain for everyone to see on Sky.

He can’t feck off soon enough for me.
 
No idea what his management style is like. I like Blackwell as since he's been here he has done what a good football manager should do: win games.

PS - Cotterill wasn't much different when he signed on loan, he was good in the home matches but awful in the away matches.

He's won a decent proportion of fairly meaningless games yes. On paper I agree a case can be made, fair enough.

Problem is when it really mattered he has come up well short time and again in his career. Losing 1-0 twice to Burnley in the space of 3 or 4 weeks without having any real chances to score really does take some doing with the squad we had. Being in charge of a team that loses 3-0 to Watford in a play-off final almost beggars belief. Wendy twice last season, Wolves and Reading at home last season. All total shockers. Can't win em all and the away record last season was pretty phenomenal. Also, on plus side he can seem to win play-off semis.

So far this year we have beaten Watford, Derby, Reading and Wednesday (fair play for the last but hardly a list to strike fear into the division). I know it's the same 3 points but there is no sense at all that we can win tight games.

As stated above, his signings are beyond a joke and like Robson will end up crippling the club in a sense of opportunities being wasted.

He thinks Bunn, Spring, France, Reid are worthy of contracts with a top CCC club.

I like absolutely nothing about the arrogant, obnoxious, bullying, self-centred, southern piece of turd.
 
I do enjoy seeing an anti-Blackwell post from time to time. I know as soon as I see it that there's going to be a 'Thankyou from Fiery Blade' beneath.
 
Cant quite get myself to foam at the mouth about Blackwell. For all apart from the last month, we've won more than we,ve lost, he repaired the damage from the Robson era and got us all back onside again in terms of improving the atmosphere.

I understand the anger, because we've gone from winning ugly to losing ugly, so people biting their tongue can now let loose. But the bloke is working under a regime which requires him to make transfer surpluses on his dealings, reduce the wage bill yet still deliver promotion.

It's not do-able.
 
I accept all that Raul, but he has been given considerable amounts to spend as well.

I don't expect promotion, we have no right to win games because we average 25k but I think the atmosphere now is stagnant at best and getting worse in a very similar way to how things went under Robson - who never lost 4 on the trot. There is no vitality in the team, no spark, no excitement and that is why I am so fed-up with KB because plenty of clubs need to make transfer surpluses and yet still play with youth, pace and energy and above all organisation and a collective determination initiated by the manager.

Warnock at Palace is showing exactly what is achievable and he aint signed a player for ages I believe. Not saying they play like Ajax or Barcelona at all but they certainly have something we don't at the moment
 
The atmosphere's stagnant at the minute because thousands of those who turn up are people who started coming when we were in the Premiership, and now that we're no longer there and not winning as many games they're losing interest.
In answer to the original question, all I really care about is whether a manager can win games. Up until the last month, Blackwell had a fantastic record at winning matches. Unfortunately this record is drying up, but until he has something nearing a fully fit squad to choose from I think it's unfair to not give him chance to turn it around. If he can't turn it around then yes, I think he should go.
 
The atmosphere's stagnant at the minute because thousands of those who turn up are people who started coming when we were in the Premiership, and now that we're no longer there and not winning as many games they're losing interest.

That's a bit contradictory.....

They came in the PL when we were losing games.
Now that we're losing games again they're losing interest.

I accept that some of the people are hanger ons.... but saying it's now because we're losing that they're losing interest is bizarre.
 
That's a bit contradictory.....

They came in the PL when we were losing games.
Now that we're losing games again they're losing interest.

I accept that some of the people are hanger ons.... but saying it's now because we're losing that they're losing interest is bizarre.

It's not hard to see that whenever a team gets promoted, its attendances will increase. When they get relegated again, the new fans will eventually lose interest and stop coming. I'm saying that, due to our relatively successful last two seasons following relegation, some of these fans didn't lose interest as quickly as they might.

Although I do realise that the less than attractive football being served up at the moment might not be helping...
 



It's not hard to see that whenever a team gets promoted, its attendances will increase. When they get relegated again, the new fans will eventually lose interest and stop coming. I'm saying that, due to our relatively successful last two seasons following relegation, some of these fans didn't lose interest as quickly as they might.

Although I do realise that the less than attractive football being served up at the moment might not be helping...

I see :)

I agree too on that point then
 
That's a bit contradictory.....

They came in the PL when we were losing games.
Now that we're losing games again they're losing interest.

I accept that some of the people are hanger ons.... but saying it's now because we're losing that they're losing interest is bizarre.

I think you're being a bit facetious in what he was saying or you don't understand the lure of a season in the Premier League watching Ronaldo, Drogba et al.


I actually disagree with that though, I think the majority of the fans who let their disapproval be known currently are the ones who've been there for years. This is an unfair stereotype with no substance at all but I see the typical fair weather fan as mild mannered and they don't get angry/upset as much as it doesn't matter to them so much.
 
I'm ambivalent about Blackwell, can take him or leave him.

But when people are on about bringing Warnock back as the saviour, you have to look at the time it took him to get us competing. In those terms, Blackwell did inherit an expensive squad but he got us within touching distance of the play offs in his first half season and to the play off final in his first full season - a record you can't really ignore.

But in terms of the bloke himself, don't really like him. He's the United manager and while he's there, I'll support his team. But he'll be gone before I will.

Disagree. Warnock built us up incrementally over a number of seasons. The squad he had when he started out was pretty dire and he had very little money. He also brought us some great cup runs and engendered a genuine connection between the support and the players/club - this is all but lost now.

I've only had the fortune of seeing from Bassett onwards, and the days under Warnock and Bassett were the great times for me.
 
Over the last couple of months I've slid from being pro-KB to being neutral and unconvinced - and I think his time at the Lane may be measured in weeks, rather than months or years.

However - after reading this thread which was supposed to be "What is it about KB you like?" - and having just read yet more anti KB diatribes I've decided to back KB to the hilt.

To answer the original question - I think it took guts to offer his resignation after Wembley, and I think he's a decent bloke who will walk away from BDTBL if he feels that's the right thing to do.

I know this doesn't answer any of the footballing concerns that I and others have. Others will no doubt disagree in spades - but for me the ranting about KB and the decent into abuse has now gone beyond the Pale, and personally I'd rather back the underdog against the baying pack.

I know that my opinion counts for virtually nothing when it comes to who manages the Blades - and I feel more at ease with myself backing him against those keyboard warriors who will anonymously spout bile, than in calling for his head for "the greater good of Sheff Utd".

In short, the vitriol on this board and elsewhere has brought dis-credit to those who want to see him removed - and I want nothing to do with the Blackwell Out "campaign".

Time for a Silver Fox style sabbatical. See you all in a month or so.
 
When I re-discovered te Blades through the internet Warnock was manager. Came to really like the guy and he got my wife converted - so for that I'm a big fan of his. Was really pleased with the Blackwell attitude when he first came in - though totally surprised by his appointment. Had to suck back my doubts cause he produced without having to wait 5 or 6 years. Think he kept it simple to allow the team to gel, when they became more settled they showed they could produce good football as well as win.
Before the Barnsley game Robins was asked to describe the Blades with an obvious set up that they were one direction hoofball. His reaction was - no, they mix it up well...... At times I see the defence not taking the time to look for a short pass but thinking they can make a 50 yard cross-field pass - usually not. I accept - "if in doubt, kick/head it out" as a general mantra at this level cause teams play pressure defence and players get little time on the ball.
Don't really 'like' Blackwell but do not see the sense in chop and changing, particularly with a record of success and an unusual run of injuries. I don't "like" Killa either but he is a really good player and even cruising at left back can do a job. I understand why people are frustrated at losing and get upset but the blind rants against other fans, players and the club are over the top for me. This is a fans forum, we are not the enemy but some seem to be treating the club and all associated with it - particularly if we see anything positive - as if we are the enemy. Kinda sad, I think, and why I appreciated Sheepdipblades comment. But as always, UTB!.
 
Over the last couple of months I've slid from being pro-KB to being neutral and unconvinced - and I think his time at the Lane may be measured in weeks, rather than months or years.

However - after reading this thread which was supposed to be "What is it about KB you like?" - and having just read yet more anti KB diatribes I've decided to back KB to the hilt.

To answer the original question - I think it took guts to offer his resignation after Wembley, and I think he's a decent bloke who will walk away from BDTBL if he feels that's the right thing to do.

I know this doesn't answer any of the footballing concerns that I and others have. Others will no doubt disagree in spades - but for me the ranting about KB and the decent into abuse has now gone beyond the Pale, and personally I'd rather back the underdog against the baying pack.

I know that my opinion counts for virtually nothing when it comes to who manages the Blades - and I feel more at ease with myself backing him against those keyboard warriors who will anonymously spout bile, than in calling for his head for "the greater good of Sheff Utd".

In short, the vitriol on this board and elsewhere has brought dis-credit to those who want to see him removed - and I want nothing to do with the Blackwell Out "campaign".

Time for a Silver Fox style sabbatical. See you all in a month or so.

Agree, the more crap they spout, the more I stop listening.
 
For every Fiery, Lenners and Micalijo there are Swiss,Bramley and Ted Danson different opinions and thoughts.
I base my opinions on watching the matches, listening to interviews and seeing him 'manage' the side from the touchline NOT taking the opposing view to people who say nasty things about him on the forum - Heat and Kitchen comes to mind!!! Football is a very emotive game with opposing views but hey if you feel sorry for Blackwell having to put up with critisism because currently the side are underperforming and certainly not challeging for the right to play Premiership football next season
 
I think the main problem at the minute is the fact that reasoned debate seems to be going out of the window on here. It's like SheepDip says, "In short, the vitriol on this board and elsewhere has brought dis-credit to those who want to see him removed". I don't have a problem with anyone thinking Blackwell should be sacked, I can fully understand the reasons for this view, but when you get people who come on here resorting to calling him a c**t etc. it does make you wonder what the point of even trying to write a sensible post is. There's a massive difference between criticism and petty abuse.
 
can anyone make a poll (because i forgot how to) for people who want him to stay or get rid of him. Please then we can see how many people do/don't want him at the club on a voting system thing.

Thanks

also i don't like blackwell or his tatic's
 
Lots of pro stuff and lots against here.

I think weather we like it or not he's gonna be here till at least christmas. If we are still playing badly and not picking up points then i can see a case for removing him. McCabe wont do it lightly though.

For what its worth here's a few things i like about Blackwell.

After his 1st game in charge, (a 2-0 defeat against Chalton at home) He came on the radio, and really laid into the team. He promised it was either shape up or ship out, and the end to that season was pretty good, just missing them play offs. He deserves massive credit for this because robson had sucked the soul out of the club.

Last season, ok we didnt play great football. We didnt sparkle all season and lost a lot of high profile games. But, we were within touching distance of the top 2 going into the last game, and that was despite selling Beattie in Jan.

I think he's a fighter, and shows plenty of passion for the club. Perhaps to much when he's interviewed after games. Maybe that gets peoples back up and why he gets dogs abuse from some. He does care about Sheffield United though, unlike money bags nobson before him.

I agree that he makes some strange decisions, plays players out of position when there is no need to like against Newcastle, but i think some fans will never be happy, and most that are moaning now are ones that campaigned for many a year to have Warnock removed.
 
Hi Ginger
Whilst I cannot find fault with some of your comments there are some glaring faults that you have failed to raise:
Blackwell is passionate about Blackwell not SUFC and when things go wrong its usually the players, the referee, the linesmen, the luck, the injuries, the agents, the credit crunch, the fans, the press, etc etc etc
He does make strange decisions, bad team selections, has favourites Quinn, Henderson, takes issues with players and never plays them Carnie, Hendrie, Ried, etc
I have never campaigned for the return of Warnock
Bassett/Speedo now thats probably a team to take us forward
I'm not anti Blade just Anti Blackwell because I firmly believe that under Blackwell we will be extremely fortunate to survive this season if he stays !
 
Hi Ginger
Whilst I cannot find fault with some of your comments there are some glaring faults that you have failed to raise:

Thats fine Fiery, i dont think we agree much but this is what forums are about. Debate.


Blackwell is passionate about Blackwell not SUFC and when things go wrong its usually the players, the referee, the linesmen, the luck, the injuries, the agents, the credit crunch, the fans, the press, etc etc etc

I can understand where your coming from here, and it can sound as though he is blaming everyone but himself. I think its something Warnock was very good at, taking the pressure away from the players, and playing the media like his little lap dogs. Blackwell doesnt seem to have this, and comes across abrasive. The reason i think he cares about SUFC though is that he offered to resign after the play off final. Weather he was to or not is another question, but he must have thought, 'Am i the right man to carry on here or should someone else come in'

McCabe convinced him that he was, and he's to shop in the loan market all season which is why im cutting him some slack.



He does make strange decisions, bad team selections, has favourites Quinn, Henderson, takes issues with players and never plays them Carnie, Hendrie, Ried, etc

Every manager has favourites, and every manager falls out with players. The 2 players you mention, Hendrie, and Carney were terrible, Carney was nesh and the less said about Hendrie the better.

I agree with Reid though, not sure what he's done wrong at all?

I have never campaigned for the return of Warnock
Bassett/Speedo now thats probably a team to take us forward
I'm not anti Blade just Anti Blackwell because I firmly believe that under Blackwell we will be extremely fortunate to survive this season if he stays !


I would prefer Speed and Coppell, think Bassett is a bit to long in the tooth.
 
can anyone make a poll (because i forgot how to) for people who want him to stay or get rid of him. Please then we can see how many people do/don't want him at the club on a voting system thing.

Thanks

also i don't like blackwell or his tatic's

They have, if you could be arsed to spend two minutes looking. It's here.
Back him or sack him. You decide. Calls cost 50p per millisecond.
 



Thats fine Fiery, i dont think we agree much but this is what forums are about. Debate.




I can understand where your coming from here, and it can sound as though he is blaming everyone but himself. I think its something Warnock was very good at, taking the pressure away from the players, and playing the media like his little lap dogs. Blackwell doesnt seem to have this, and comes across abrasive. The reason i think he cares about SUFC though is that he offered to resign after the play off final. Weather he was to or not is another question, but he must have thought, 'Am i the right man to carry on here or should someone else come in'

McCabe convinced him that he was, and he's to shop in the loan market all season which is why im cutting him some slack.

That was McCabe's fault, if true he should have let Blackwell go - it was probably the right time to go and I am sure thet Blackwell has not got what it takes to get us in the Premier League



Every manager has favourites, and every manager falls out with players. The 2 players you mention, Hendrie, and Carney were terrible, Carney was nesh and the less said about Hendrie the better.

Carney is getting rave reviews for FC Twente and playing excellent football according to reports

I agree with Reid though, not sure what he's done wrong at all?

Obviously upset Blackwell somewhere along the line


I would prefer Speed and Coppell, think Bassett is a bit to long in the tooth.

My view that Bassett is the motivator, Speed the tactician would probably work better!
 

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