Play-offs

[Revolution]

How in any rational universe can Yeovil finish above us?

Because United are run by morons.

 

[raul]

I've just done a few sums;

In round numbers United's average crowd is 18,500 and Yeovil's is 4000. Let's take that figure as teh basis of the club's turnover (I know there will be other income streams that add to turnover, but that shouldn't effect proportions).

Assuming an average ticket price of £20 per game and 23 games, that means United's turnover is £8,510,000 and Yeovil's £1,840,000.

Applying the 65% rule, that means United have £5,531,500 to spend on players wages and Yeocil £1,196,000. If we assume a first team squad of 20 that means the average wage United can pay is £2765.75 per week and Yeovil's is £598 - i.e. our players will be on roughly four times the wages of the Yeovil players.

How in any rational universe can Yeovil finish above us?

Add the million a month going in as well.

 

[axel smeets]

If, as expected, Brentford take second, we will be in the play offs against 3 teams with a grand total of 1 year (Swindon in 93-94) in the top division compared to our 60.

Also, the average attendances of Yeovil, Doncaster and Swindon put together is only just higher (19,837) than ours (18,553). For fuck's sake, Yeovil's is not even a quarter of ours (4071) and they are likely to finish above us.

Thats how low we have sunk.

McCabe should be made well aware of that statistic, and then hang his head in shame and embarassment.

 

[Worksop_Blade]

This momentum, form thing that everyone keeps bringing up is utter bollocks, the following is the previous 5 winners of the play offs, final league position and their form from the last 5 league matches of the season.

2008 - 3rd -Doncaster DWDWL
2009 - 6th - Scunthorpe LDDWD
2010 - 3rd - Millwall DLWLW
2011 - 4th - Peterborough WLDDW
2012 - 4th - Huddersfield LLWDW

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the playoffs are now heavily weighing on the minds of the staff and players of the club and they couldn't give a shit where they finish in the league?

They are not going to go in hell for leather in two completely pointless games knowing that just around the corner are two (possibly three) of the biggest games in the clubs recent history!

I dread to think what would happen if our club got into a Bury or Pompey situation, where the fate of the clubs existence rested in the actions of the fans. Unitedite's would be too busy whinging, moaning and fighting amongst ourselves to get anything done in time.

Talk about doing the autopsy before the patient is even dead.

 

[Revolution]

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the playoffs are now heavily weighing on the minds of the staff and players of the club and they couldn't give a shit where they finish in the league?

If this is true, they are stupidier than I thought, as being at home in the second leg is a massive advantage. The Crewe games was not completely pointless.

As for your other point, at the rate we are going you will get to find out how we would deal with that problem in about 4 or 5 years time.

 

[raul]

I dread to think what would happen if our club got into a Bury or Pompey situation, where the fate of the clubs existence rested in the actions of the fans. Unitedite's would be too busy whinging, moaning and fighting amongst ourselves to get anything done in time.

Talk about doing the autopsy before the patient is even dead.

Au contraire, I would be interested, motivated, active and digging deep, because it would be down to us. Until we actually reach that point, we'll continue on our current death by a thousand cuts course.

 

[Kenilworth]

I've been saying that but I know I'll go if we get there.

I wont Walthy - I really can't stomach the same shit all over again and the wedge that goes with it. Not even the beer and the social aspects are tempting me. They just don't deserve any backing whatsoever.

If I had my way I would urge everyone to boycott the final (if by some fluke we got through to it) as a protest at:
a) the shit level we have fallen to as a club
b) the sub standard quality of "professional" on offer
c) the extortionate Wembley pricing for tickets, refreshment etc that make up such a miserable event.

Is that bad of me?


Always dreamed of seeing my Blades at Wembley as a kid - now I utterly dread it

 

[Kenilworth]

2008 - 3rd -Doncaster DWDWL
2009 - 6th - Scunthorpe LDDWD
2010 - 3rd - Millwall DLWLW
2011 - 4th - Peterborough WLDDW
2012 - 4th - Huddersfield LLWDW

And what you do there is compare completely unrelated stats and circumstances.

2013 - 6th - Blades WDLL(L) and that really shows equal or better form than those sequences you quoted?
(L) = Preston, most likely, as we rest key players and chuck the kids in to get a taste of the "Fear" at Bramall Lane when the performances are worse than shit.

What you will find is that all of those clubs who succeeded will have had a goal in them or two, a striker that can make the difference in a one off game. Probably one or two that have a goal tally in double figures for their season to date. Name ours?

In each of our last three play off campaigns (including this one) we have entered into them without any decent strikers available for the crucial games. It doesn't take a genius to work out how the wheels will come off, surely?

 

[Worksop_Blade]

I wont Walthy - I really can't stomach the same shit all over again and the wedge that goes with it. Not even the beer and the social aspects are tempting me. They just don't deserve any backing whatsoever.

If I had my way I would urge everyone to boycott the final (if by some fluke we got through to it) as a protest at:
a) the shit level we have fallen to as a club
b) the sub standard quality of "professional" on offer
c) the extortionate Wembley pricing for tickets, refreshment etc that make up such a miserable event.

Is that bad of me?


Always dreamed of seeing my Blades at Wembley as a kid - now I utterly dread it

So you want to boycott the chance to better both the level that club finds itself and the standard of professional on offer?

Right....

 

[Kenilworth]

So you want to boycott the chance to better both the level that club finds itself and the standard of professional on offer?

Right....

Yep - 'cos the other way round is working a treat isn't it?

It's called a protest - and I suggest such action is far better than swearing, slagging off and booing every touch a player takes. Also take note, it's not just United it's a protest at, it's Wembley and the FA as well.

 

[super_pig]

I've just done a few sums;

In round numbers United's average crowd is 18,500 and Yeovil's is 4000. Let's take that figure as teh basis of the club's turnover (I know there will be other income streams that add to turnover, but that shouldn't effect proportions).

Assuming an average ticket price of £20 per game and 23 games, that means United's turnover is £8,510,000 and Yeovil's £1,840,000.

Applying the 65% rule, that means United have £5,531,500 to spend on players wages and Yeocil £1,196,000. If we assume a first team squad of 20 that means the average wage United can pay is £2765.75 per week and Yeovil's is £598 - i.e. our players will be on roughly four times the wages of the Yeovil players.

How in any rational universe can Yeovil finish above us?

that's my metric of failure/success mate.. if you set up a league of wages then the position you finish in the real table should reflect this.. if you finish below your position in the expenditure table then you have failed simple as. apparently .. ahem..we have the highest wage bill in the division.. therefore our final position should be??

 

[BladeFisher]

If, as expected, Brentford take second, we will be in the play offs against 3 teams with a grand total of 1 year (Swindon in 93-94) in the top division compared to our 60.

Also, the average attendances of Yeovil, Doncaster and Swindon put together is only just higher (19,837) than ours (18,553). For fuck's sake, Yeovil's is not even a quarter of ours (4071) and they are likely to finish above us.

Thats how low we have sunk.

Would you now view us Darren as a submersible or a potent submarine just awaiting a refit?

 

[Worksop_Blade]

Yep - 'cos the other way round is working a treat isn't it?

It's called a protest - and I suggest such action is far better than swearing, slagging off and booing every touch a player takes. Also take note, it's not just United it's a protest at, it's Wembley and the FA as well.

I take it you won't be watching it on Sky Sports then, you know as a protest against their crimes against football?

 

[ponteblade]

morgan handed poison chalice, he will go at end of season,because next gaffer won't want ex manager in backroom team,. wish season was over, oh yes it is! will win div 2 14/15 season