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blade too long said:
any one who wants to go can go asap for me
want only totally committed players
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Phipps has said Murphy wanted to go.
But there's plenty saying that he didn't & that he was, effectively, forced out.

Club spin (by a great PR man). Trying to deflect the flak.
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
Phipps has said Murphy wanted to go.
But there's plenty saying that he didn't & that he was, effectively, forced out.

Club spin (by a great PR man). Trying to deflect the flak.
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You can understand him wanting to go.
25, Championship, Bit more security for his family and maybe a stab at the National team...might be wrong but I don't believe the club would force him out...why would it?
 
I usually appreciate Jim Phipps open communications, but his 'once a Blade, always a Blade' is simply nauseating. The vast majority of players, including Murphy, are professional mercenaries that will kiss the badge of the club that pays them the most wonga.
Please don't patronise us with such bullshit. Perhaps Jim should look in the history books to find the definition of 'once a Blade, always a Blade' when the great Jimmy Hagan refused to move to Wendy, when the board wanted to sell him.
Thanks for the memories, Jamie, but I personally couldn't give a flying fuck about your future career as a football player.
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
Phipps has said Murphy wanted to go.
But there's plenty saying that he didn't & that he was, effectively, forced out.

Club spin (by a great PR man). Trying to deflect the flak.
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Foxy said:
With all due respect... You don't force a footballer under contract to do anything.
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We'll never know unless Murphy writes his autobiography.

Wonder when that's out?
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
Phipps has said Murphy wanted to go.
But there's plenty saying that he didn't & that he was, effectively, forced out.

Club spin (by a great PR man). Trying to deflect the flak.
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Who's saying that Alf? Some arseholes on twatter?
 
Foxy said:
But how do you effectively force someone to move to Brighton against their will?
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By making it clear that he's no longer wanted here, that the club positively want to accept Brighton's offer.
It needn't have been a move against his will (I never said it was), but it may well have been the club forcing the move instead of Jamie doing it.
I just think Jim may be being disingenuous here.
 
Foxy said:
With all due respect... You don't force a footballer under contract to do anything.
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My view , it will turn out a good deal for the player and club . Murphy was under contract , therefore SUFC had the upper hand on this one .

Parience is a virtue , and unfortunatley its difficult to have , when we are so desperate for promotion.

Still think we will win tommorow , and a major signing is on his way . The Murphy money will help to pay the salary of the player coming in.

UTB
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
By making it clear that he's no longer wanted here, that the club positively want to accept Brighton's offer.
It needn't be a move against his will (I never said it was), but it may well have been the club forcing the move instead of Jamie.
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Regardless of the club accepting another clubs offer (which they wouldn't generally do if the player wasn't wanting to talk to the club in question), the player still has to accept the other clubs offer and want to move.

Personally, I expected him to move further north, but circumstances change.

We'll miss nothing of last weeks Jamie Murphy (as much as people preferred to point the finger elsewhere), fingers crossed we make the required changes having done this in order to ensure we don't miss an on-form Jamie Murphy.
 
alcoblade said:
Pre season friendless are notorious for telling you sweet fuck all about the season. Last season told us far more.

Emphasising the "clean slate" and "let's see what they can do" was probably his first mistake.

Thinking a 4 man midfield with Baxter in it could protect our questionable defence,his next.

Thinking any team we put out should contain Long, his third.

Let's hope he learns quickly.

UTB
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Surely its Basham's role to protect the back four not Baxter's - Baxter is the attacking player in that centre midfield, not the defensive one.

The biggest mistake thus far for me is the McEverley as Captain.
 



Kevincarterversion2.0 said:
Surely its Basham's role to protect the back four not Baxter's - Baxter is the attacking player in that centre midfield, not the defensive one.

The biggest mistake thus far for me is the McEverley as Captain.
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You can't have 2 central midfielders when one of them can't run / defend for toffee. I accept it's isn't his primary role, but we've gone on for too long with midfielders who are too limited in their all round game.


UTB
 
It's an easy way out though isn't it? Page one of the book. Much harder is creating a situation whereby people dont actually want to join Brighton (or Hull, or etc etc) because we're better than them. Until someone is brave/strong/determined enough to work at creating those conditions rather than selling the best player every year the cycle can never be broken.

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm asking for us to be better than Brighton and Hull, not Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd or any example some professional whatabouter wants to come back with. I know where we sit in the pyramid. We're miles below it and show no signs of getting near it.
 
raul said:
It's an easy way out though isn't it? Page one of the book. Much harder is creating a situation whereby people dont actually want to join Brighton (or Hull, or etc etc) because we're better than them. Until someone is brave/strong/determined enough to work at creating those conditions rather than selling the best player every year the cycle can never be broken.

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm asking for us to be better than Brighton and Hull, not Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd or any example some professional whatabouter wants to come back with. I know where we sit in the pyramid. We're miles below it and show no signs of getting near it.
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I think Walth's thread sums it up; 2 years since GCE, and we're flogging players off to Brighton as not to hurt their feelings. Where's the Club the asked Jags to give us an extra year? It can actually be done.
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
Phipps has said Murphy wanted to go.
But there's plenty saying that he didn't & that he was, effectively, forced out.

Club spin (by a great PR man). Trying to deflect the flak.
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There's a lot of reactionary horseshit flying about but this is sublime.
The club have forced him to move? Get the fuck outta here you clown. :D
 
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SandyMcBlade said:
Well it could all hit the fan on Saturday, and that's a fact.........;)
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Indeed, or Che could be given a decent run and it'll be the greatest piece of business ever. Hindsight is a great advantage, unfortunately we just have to hire a manager who knows the right price for every player and how improve the squad with the money brought in. Until Saturday most were convinced we'd got such a man.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
There's a lot of reactionary horseshit flying about but this is sublime.
The club have forced him to move, get the fuck outta here you clown. :D
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Cracking post.

Do I need to explain the difference between effectively & actually again?
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
Cracking post.

Do I need to explain the difference between effectively & actually again?
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No the club can't effectively or actually force him out. If you disagree please give an example as its Friday night and I'd enjoy the laugh. Maybe they grabbed his hand and wrote the transfer request for him against his will.
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
We'll never know unless Murphy writes his autobiography.

Wonder when that's out?
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A footballer that can read and write, they are rarer than Rocking horse pooh. ( my one exception here is the Chief, big Wayne, a gentleman and a scholar)
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Indeed, or Che could be given a decent run and it'll be the greatest piece of business ever. Hindsight is a great advantage, unfortunately we just have to hire a manager who knows the right price for every player and how improve the squad with the money brought in. Until Saturday most were convinced we'd got such a man.
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I still am. Players come and players go. Long term we're headed in the right direction. Let's get behind the team and take them forwards. ;)

UTMB
 
William Henry Foulkes said:
I still am. Players come and players go. Long term we're headed in the right direction. Let's get behind the team and take them forwards. ;)

UTMB
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He was a decent player at our level, not excellent but a very decent player who's got us more than we deserved out of a game on a number of occasions. But this isn't Deane and Fjortoft territory here, we've got decent money and plenty of time to strengthen. I actually don't think we need a like for like replacement but that money has to the spent. Let's see what happen before we start appealing for someone to think of the children.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
No the club can't effectively or actually force him out. If you disagree please give an example as its Friday night and I'd enjoy the laugh. Maybe they grabbed his hand and wrote the transfer request for him against his will.
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You're believing the "Jamie Murphy handed in a transfer request" line & discounting the possibility that the club accepted the bid from Brighton without such a request having been made. Fine. I'll remain sceptical, however. Laugh away.

Just hope the Connor Goldson rumour has some substance to it. If there is going to be some genuine squad reconstruction using the Jamie Murphy money, then I for one will be chuffed. Just not expecting it at all to happen.
 
Allegedly Murphy was homesick when he first came and will still probably still have some of those feeling towards his family up in Scotland even though he is more settled now Im sure he wouldnt move another 200 miles away from them if he didnt want to
Being forced out of the club is total bollocks
 



Flatulent_Bob said:
He was a decent player at our level, not excellent but a very decent player who's got us more than we deserved out of a game on a number of occasions. But this isn't Deane and Fjortoft territory here, we've got decent money and plenty of time to strengthen. I actually don't think we need a like for like replacement but that money has to the spent. Let's see what happen before we start appealing for someone to think of the children.
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Weren't people saying this when Maguire fucked off last year as well
 
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