PH - Open and frank interview

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Rodley said:
Having a budget of loans and frees is a desperate disappointment. We need this takeover.
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Point 1. Did you really expect anything different?

Point 2. Ain’t going to happen mate.

How are things in the great Northern metrollops?
 

georgebernardshaw said:
Point 1. Did you really expect anything different?

Point 2. Ain’t going to happen mate.

How are things in the great Northern metrollops?
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I had a shred of hope it was just managing market expectations so we didn’t get our leg lifted.

I can only surmise we need to reduce the price we’re after, willing buyer and willing seller and all that.

Very good mi owd lad, you well? 🎣 🐛
 
Rodley said:
I had a shred of hope it was just managing market expectations so we didn’t get our leg lifted.

I can only surmise we need to reduce the price we’re after, willing buyer and willing seller and all that.

Very good mi owd lad, you well? 🎣 🐛
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Yes, it needs a big improvement, doesn’t it? I don’t think our owner has a clue really.

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#teammaggot
 
People are just hearing the words they want to hear.

He said "Loans and free transfers are going to be big" he didn't say Loans and free transfers are all we are in for did he. granted Big suggest the majority of our business but that could be 4 loans 3 frees and 2 big money deals for all we know
 
robbiez666 said:
They have no interest in signing a new contract. Ndiaye is gone regardless of how this season goes. Berge is likely the same bar some kind of rich takeover/European finish miracle.
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Agreed - Ndiaye is gone , assuming he can produce in the PL in a "relegation battle".
Just hope that Berge matches Ndiaye's energy this season , even if it's purely to get a lucrative move.
We have them for 12 months - if they arse around like Lunny did , we're down.
 
mancunianblade said:
People are just hearing the words they want to hear.

He said "Loans and free transfers are going to be big" he didn't say Loans and free transfers are all we are in for did he. granted Big suggest the majority of our business but that could be 4 loans 3 frees and 2 big money deals for all we know
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I interpreted it differently but also came to the conclusion that we have a bit of cash to spend judiciously. Sounded to me like frees will be done first and supplemented with a maybe a loan or two but still keeping back at least one domestic loan spot until late in the window when someone might shake lose if they don’t make a first team squad. And that we’d also be looking for players with long term development potential on permanent deals but again maybe having to wait late in the window to try and maximise our value for money as it sounds like Hecky thinks we need quite a few through the door and he’s not wrong.
 
mancunianblade said:
People are just hearing the words they want to hear.

He said "Loans and free transfers are going to be big" he didn't say Loans and free transfers are all we are in for did he. granted Big suggest the majority of our business but that could be 4 loans 3 frees and 2 big money deals for all we know
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He actually said “we won’t be buying Premier League players”, I hope who we’ve got and who we buy end up being Premier League standard or we’re fucked!
 
Just listened to it - sounds like Brewster is wrapped in cotton wool , PH not even saying he's likely to be fully participating in pre-season.
Have I missed an update on RND ? Otherwise , why was no enquiry made about his fitness ? Anyone know whether he'll get a full pre-season ?
I don't see how we can know our recruitment plans for LCB if RND's fitness is uncertain.
It begs the question why we have not made a priority of agreeing renewal terms with Robbo at least as a backup.
I can't see us starting the season without a L-footed to CB ?
Maybe that'll be our first signing.
Strong hints by PH that most business will be done in the latter part of the window.
What a very tricky job for him - I hope he's got good support from colleagues.
 
cooperblade said:
I think he's been really clear on that from the end of last season and has explained his thinking behind it.

He wanted to keep everyone for two main reasons:

1) When it comes to his budget, dividing not much by 5 or 6 is easier than dividing not much by 8 or 9
2) He's really keen to maintain standards (in terms of application, effort etc) and the character and chemistry of the group and the more players you need to replace, the harder that is to do - particularly when you take out a talismanic leader.

Everyone will have different views on whether that's the right thing to do or not but I don't think there can be any debate about who is taking certain decisions at the club.
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Outstanding post. It’s a pity we had to wait until #23 to hear it.
Much better to retain known players than bring in new blood that lacks the chemistry and character of the lads moving on.
Hecky’s job is already hard enough, finding PL ready talent on a tiny budget. He also wants to keep a strong dressing room.
Too many people hearing that part, but not listening. We will not be signing the likes of Coady or Walker on big wages that could undermine that. A subsidized loan would be equally unlikely.

A repeat of the value for money Ahmedhodzic signing would be a major coup, but again, given our circumstances, unlikely.

PH will do the best he can, with what he’s got. Doing that last season got us promoted automatically. I admit to being concerned at times, but I kept that to myself.

Final point is to plan for the best and expect the worst, especially in terms of any takeover that will not now happen, no matter how much we might want it! Let PH manage it. Is his job, not ours.
 
Charlieblade said:
Outstanding post. It’s a pity we had to wait until #23 to hear it.
Much better to retain known players than bring in new blood that lacks the chemistry and character of the lads moving on.
Hecky’s job is already hard enough, finding PL ready talent on a tiny budget. He also wants to keep a strong dressing room.
Too many people hearing that part, but not listening. We will not be signing the likes of Coady or Walker on big wages that could undermine that. A subsidized loan would be equally unlikely.

A repeat of the value for money Ahmedhodzic signing would be a major coup, but again, given our circumstances, unlikely.

PH will do the best he can, with what he’s got. Doing that last season got us promoted automatically. I admit to being concerned at times, but I kept that to myself.

Final point is to plan for the best and expect the worst, especially in terms of any takeover that will not now happen, no matter how much we might want it! Let PH manage it. Is his job, not ours.
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Small point.. but I think you meant to say expect the best but plan for the worst.. which I would fully endorse.
 
Yogi said:
I interpreted it differently but also came to the conclusion that we have a bit of cash to spend judiciously. Sounded to me like frees will be done first and supplemented with a maybe a loan or two but still keeping back at least one domestic loan spot until late in the window when someone might shake lose if they don’t make a first team squad. And that we’d also be looking for players with long term development potential on permanent deals but again maybe having to wait late in the window to try and maximise our value for money as it sounds like Hecky thinks we need quite a few through the door and he’s not wrong.
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He will have been given a total budget which includes wages and money to buy players
It is then up to PH and team to decide how they spend that money, it could be we don’t actually buy anybody for a fee just put the budget all in to loans and free transfers I would think
 
AnstonBlade1 said:
Only us could get promoted to the supposed richest league in the world and still be broke🤦‍♂️
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Once bitten, twice shy when it comes to transfer policy this time around. In fairness we didn’t buy any ‘Premier League’ players last time around. Just expensive flops from the division below.
 
PaulHalfway said:
He will have been given a total budget which includes wages and money to buy players
It is then up to PH and team to decide how they spend that money, it could be we don’t actually buy anybody for a fee just put the budget all in to loans and free transfers I would think
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I don’t think we can recruit the type of player profile he talked about on frees. He’s talks about needing to bring in our own players with development potential for the health of the club but also that they need to be able to contribute now. Not many players out of contract who fit that profile.
 
According to ts yesterday evening they think hecky will be the 1st manager to be sacked, especially if we are in bottom few with the new owners. Do they know something
 

chesblade said:
According to ts yesterday evening they think hecky will be the 1st manager to be sacked, especially if we are in bottom few with the new owners. Do they know something
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Probably just another example of 'pundits' spouting off the usual clichés, without having the first idea about what's actually going on with any clubs outside the top 17....
 
All joking aside, facing the reality of what we are facing next season, I'd quite happily take half the money & swap places with Coventry or Boro. It appears that we're making no attempt whatsoever to give it a real go. If we're intent on signing sub standard players, it's better to be in a sub standard league.

I know that PH has the ability to be selective in his facts and we might end up being bigger spenders than we are currently claiming, but all i'm seeing is a squad seriously lacking the required quality, a long season of struggle, moral sapping defeats and early relegation by a margin.

You can say that that's not too bad a thing when viewed in the context of our long term survival, but when the dust settles & we pick up the pieces, we'll have lost Berge & Ndiaye on frees, the collective moral of the squad will be damaged and the moral of the poor young/youth players that get asked to play a level or two above their capabilities will be destroyed. I don't want to see Jebbz, Osula or whoever, broken on the wheel, and turned into the next George Long just for the sake of it.

We'll be wandering the country getting beat every other week, paying top dollar for tickets, and praising the 'experience' and acting like the poor northern half of the family visiting their wealthy southern cousins.

And let's not fool ourselves that we're somehow keeping our powder dry for a momentous promotion push in 24/25, if the current budget is £20m, then the budget for 24/25 in the championship will be fuck all & we'll have a team lacking half it's players and any discernible quality.
 
Keen Blade said:
Agreed - Ndiaye is gone , assuming he can produce in the PL in a "relegation battle".
Just hope that Berge matches Ndiaye's energy this season , even if it's purely to get a lucrative move.
We have them for 12 months - if they arse around like Lunny did , we're down.
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If they are set on leaving then what can we do. But then surely they would want to move immediately too?

The situation we've found ourselves in with these two is extremely negligent at boardroom level.
To potentially be losing our 2 best players as it stands who's fee's under contract would normally total above £50m in total and lose them for nothing......

I would be asking their agents
"look what would it take to get them on new contracts? We want to keep them but we also understand they have aspirations beyond us.
But can we give them an improved wages, and lets write in some quite reasonable fee release clauses. Fo EG. If we stay up £15-20m. If we went down £10m for other clubs to look at getting them". Yeah it wouldn't be the fee's they are worth but we wouldn't lose them for zilch.

Means we would get something in a years time at least and you never know they might enjoy themselves we might stay up and they may feel like staying another 12 months.
 
Hopefully were just acting poor. If other teams know weve got loadsa MUNNNNEH theyll be asking for more.
 
Nicolaus_Copernicus said:
All joking aside, facing the reality of what we are facing next season, I'd quite happily take half the money & swap places with Coventry or Boro. It appears that we're making no attempt whatsoever to give it a real go. If we're intent on signing sub standard players, it's better to be in a sub standard league.

I know that PH has the ability to be selective in his facts and we might end up being bigger spenders than we are currently claiming, but all i'm seeing is a squad seriously lacking the required quality, a long season of struggle, moral sapping defeats and early relegation by a margin.

You can say that that's not too bad a thing when viewed in the context of our long term survival, but when the dust settles & we pick up the pieces, we'll have lost Berge & Ndiaye on frees, the collective moral of the squad will be damaged and the moral of the poor young/youth players that get asked to play a level or two above their capabilities will be destroyed. I don't want to see Jebbz, Osula or whoever, broken on the wheel, and turned into the next George Long just for the sake of it.

We'll be wandering the country getting beat every other week, paying top dollar for tickets, and praising the 'experience' and acting like the poor northern half of the family visiting their wealthy southern cousins.

And let's not fool ourselves that we're somehow keeping our powder dry for a momentous promotion push in 24/25, if the current budget is £20m, then the budget for 24/25 in the championship will be fuck all & we'll have a team lacking half it's players and any discernible quality.
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To me, that is exactly what Sheffield United are and always have been. The quicker we unite as a fanbase and align ourselves behind the thought that this season is purely about fighting as an underdog to bloody as many noses as possible, the better the experience. Our essence lies in the fight and the journey, never the destination or the pay-off at the end of the rainbow.

Yes, we could be a car crash by 2025. But no dissertation about how unrealistic players we won’t get would infinitely improve our chances will change that.

Your analysis is one sound view of the future. There is other similarly sound views. Some of them might colour things more positively. All views of the future share one common feature, namely that none of us control the pieces that won‘t or need to fall into place.

We do not control or affect the future. What we can control is how we approach next year. Are we realistic that a fight for survival is inevitable and might be lost, but enjoy the battle? Or do we indulge in pre-emptive disappointment that our squad on paper will remain worse than Brentford, Forest or Southampton and feel like that means our owners sold us short?

We as fans are changing slowly from what we used to be, in my view. A lot of the self-deprecating gallow‘s humor has died as younger generations get somewhat more entitled and engage in punditry-style put-downs that are hedged both ways. Stuff
along the lines of „we can safeguard the club‘s future while pushing the boat out…“

We also have been cultivating online snipers whose real deal is not fun at football but fun (as they define it for themselves) on message boards or social media.

My personal take: The Prince and Hecky can’t do fairer than clearly stating that we are basically in Harry Bassett territory again. Fashion something out of misfits and gems for a season or two because neither of them currently have the required ridiculously deep pockets for this new-age Prem laugh.

Could it be better? Of course. But it is what it is. If I am not lied to, I can buy into another quintessentially Blades storyline here. I can enjoy backs to the wall from day one. I can swerve a few near certain disappointments on the road. And I look at about eight teams in the Prem, close my eyes, imagine us four months ago ten minutes after beating Wrexham, and confidently say „any of those eight at home, and I‘d fancy us at Bramall Lane in the cup, bowling them over.“

Our squad will be stronger than back then, so the list of possible wins gets longer. So personally I see no good in imagining myself depressed on the London tube on the way to Chelsea away. I will skip the match, and rather look forward to a new ground at Brentford, pondering a potential draw and a long night with the London Blades, regardless of the result. And yes, historically, it‘s often poured at Brentford , too… 😇🍷
 
So what's this on blades sold about a Saudi and consortium take over. Is this what Ts were on about
 
Nicolaus_Copernicus said:
All joking aside, facing the reality of what we are facing next season, I'd quite happily take half the money & swap places with Coventry or Boro. It appears that we're making no attempt whatsoever to give it a real go. If we're intent on signing sub standard players, it's better to be in a sub standard league.

I know that PH has the ability to be selective in his facts and we might end up being bigger spenders than we are currently claiming, but all i'm seeing is a squad seriously lacking the required quality, a long season of struggle, moral sapping defeats and early relegation by a margin.

You can say that that's not too bad a thing when viewed in the context of our long term survival, but when the dust settles & we pick up the pieces, we'll have lost Berge & Ndiaye on frees, the collective moral of the squad will be damaged and the moral of the poor young/youth players that get asked to play a level or two above their capabilities will be destroyed. I don't want to see Jebbz, Osula or whoever, broken on the wheel, and turned into the next George Long just for the sake of it.

We'll be wandering the country getting beat every other week, paying top dollar for tickets, and praising the 'experience' and acting like the poor northern half of the family visiting their wealthy southern cousins.

And let's not fool ourselves that we're somehow keeping our powder dry for a momentous promotion push in 24/25, if the current budget is £20m, then the budget for 24/25 in the championship will be fuck all & we'll have a team lacking half it's players and any discernible quality.
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The last paragraph is why I think it's so important to plan ahead. Sign players that will be with us for a few years who can either develop or are good Championship players, get a few loans to bolster the first team and get the young lads out on loan for a year. Get us in a position to start next season with a good squad and decent mix.
 
Bell4 said:
The lad has got to deliver an absolute miracle for us to stay up

Bless him

Never felt so flat after winning promotion to the top division

Hope we’re not the footballing equivalent of a Richard Dunn
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Surprised at that
It's not as if you got excited at any point actually getting promoted
 
jt64 said:
The "circumstances" when we signed Ahmedhodzic were worse than they are now?
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Possibly, but we, and potential selling clubs were not aware of it at the time. Our reputation for missing payments on player purchase contracts has since been a bit poor!
 

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robbiez666 said:
The last paragraph is why I think it's so important to plan ahead. Sign players that will be with us for a few years who can either develop or are good Championship players, get a few loans to bolster the first team and get the young lads out on loan for a year. Get us in a position to start next season with a good squad and decent mix.
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don’t disagree with anything you have both said. I just think you are looking too far ahead, before a ball has Ben kicked in the PL.

Worth remembering that PH, Illiman and Anel have never been there before, but everyone expects those two players to make a good fist of it. That’s not unreasonable, so why not apply the same hopes for PH?

Give everyone the same chance for a start, then start looking beyond a season, that hasn’t got off the ground yet?

Just sayin’. :)
 
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