Paddy

[cooperblade]

Where's that clever twat who was telling all with great authority that Paddy was ten times over the limit? Clearly not true and libellous i guess. Think i can remember poster's name but wouldn't want to get it wrong so won't say. Anything you want to say?

 

[Santos]

Bit of a minefield all this.

Pro footballers are effectively self employed, hence long term fixed contracts. It will be part of his contract that should he do this that or the other he won't be entitled to such and such....like being paid.

His "offence" is clear gross misconduct so he should be sacked although United can still hold his registration (which is the bit that clubs pay transfer fees for)

As he is out of contract in the summer we will have to sack him otherwise we would have to start contract negotiations with a drugs cheat.

At the end of the day Paddy has been stupid but hat's nothing new.

A shame to end his Blades career in this way but even my ten year old wouldm't be that daft

I can quite easily live with offering Kenny a new contract. Technically he is a 'drugs cheat' but it's not like he was devious (he's too dumb to able to do this). There are several players plying their trade currently who I hope we stay clear of, and Paddy isn't one of them.

But beyond all, probably a good bargaining position for us to be in. There's no way he can expect his current rate of pay to be the same. We could get a top class keeper on relatively cheap wages.

Stand by Paddy?

 

[Samantha]

It has been ruled that he didn't take the drug to enhance his performance - he was just being stupid. Therefore he wasn't trying to defy the club or cheat, so why shouldn't we keep him on?

Hope he doesn't get paid though.

 

[jkblade7]

to be honest i am gutted at the end of the day it is paddy kenny and i will miss him , as much as i have loved bunn's impact in the club. as people have said it will be a bad way if this does end his career tho and as others have said it is his own fault. but can someone explain how the drug actually enchanced his performance if it was just cough medicine ? as i still am not 100%.

 

[Samantha]

to be honest i am gutted at the end of the day it is paddy kenny and i will miss him , as much as i have loved bunn's impact in the club. as people have said it will be a bad way if this does end his career tho and as others have said it is his own fault. but can someone explain how the drug actually enchanced his performance if it was just cough medicine ? as i still am not 100%.

A substance contained within the cough medicine (Ephedrine) is a banned substance as it is deemed to be a performance enhancing drug.

 

[jkblade7]

i am interested in how it makes your performance better tho , is it true that it can slim you down very fast , as we know paddy was a big lad ?

 

[SwissBlade]

Just read Blackies comments, it sounds like we're taking legal advice for the Harsh punishment.

Please United, just accept it. Paddy fcuked up and the club will suffer, but I think its fair for all concerned. Lets just get on with the football.

Mistake or intentionally, he's banned for taking more than the allowed amount of a substance. Lets move on.

Can he still train if he's banned from "all football"?

 

[jkblade7]

apparently he cant train

 

[Bladesman]

Just read Blackies comments, it sounds like we're taking legal advice for the Harsh punishment.

Please United, just accept it. Paddy fcuked up and the club will suffer, but I think its fair for all concerned. Lets just get on with the football.

Mistake or intentionally, he's banned for taking more than the allowed amount of a substance. Lets move on.

Can he still train if he's banned from "all football"?

He can exercise at home in the cupboard behind the boiler.

 

[fatpat]

funny when bednar is caught buying coke this summer yet gets a 10 week ban, it is clear there was no attempt to enhance performance, cheat or fool anyone, for gods sake he took too much cough medicine, ok he was silly but to deprive someone of their living for 9 months is ridiculous, the muppets who are salivating at the news and are glad about it make me ashamed to be a blade. i won't even be reading another forum tonight because I just know the garbage that will be being spouted.
I for one hope desperately to see paddy back in goal for us

 

[SwissBlade]

He can exercise at home in the cupboard behind the boiler.

Isn't that where he got the medicine from?

 

[The One]

He should have just dealt drugs instead and got a measley 3 months in pre-season.

 

[Toronto Blade]

It is not illegal or prohibited in atheletes ,only a banned substance. Banned only if it is over acceptable levels which Paddys levels were.He was already on antibiotics and should have let them do their work.

 

[dj_uk_1234]

i am interested in how it makes your performance better tho , is it true that it can slim you down very fast , as we know paddy was a big lad ?

That's true.

As you say, lost a lot of weight . Makes you wonder how long he's been taking this 'cough medicine'???

 

[DuncDisorderly]

A substance contained within the cough medicine (Ephedrine) is a banned substance as it is deemed to be a performance enhancing drug.

Ephedrine isn't banned, like EPO would be, but there is a limit to how much you can have, a bit like the drink drive laws. In that sense, one spoon cough mixture is like having one pint. Have three and wave bye to the license/career.

 

[oaklandrdblade]

I think the annoying bit is that we suspend him on the 4th June yet the ban doesn't come into effect until the FA got their arse in gear on July 22nd.

The other thing that amazes me is that it obviously took a fair while for the results to come out as otherwise surely he wouldn't have been allowed to play in the final, can you imagine the fall out that would have provoked if we'd gone up?

 

[Toronto Blade]

I am sure the club expected this suspension especially with the way the Blades have faired with the Premier League and FA in recent years.
Tough on Kenny but he has some years left on him yet
I'm waiting to see if they dare put Mike Dean in to ref the derby again.Bramall Lane might be not be receptive to him for a while yet.

 

[Houso]

That's true.

As you say, lost a lot of weight . Makes you wonder how long he's been taking this 'cough medicine'???

 

[La_Blade]

That's true.

As you say, lost a lot of weight . Makes you wonder how long he's been taking this 'cough medicine'???

I;m not a chemist by any means but my understanding of ephadrine is that is a powerful decongestant, it opens up the lung walls to increase breathing capacity. Hence if you're bunged up it clears it up. The advantage could be gained I suppose by increased lung capacity, hardly needed in a keeper. As for the weight loss may I suggest you try doing as much running as Paddy has these last couple of summers and see how much you lose.

 

[SwissBlade]

I;m not a chemist by any means but my understanding of ephadrine is that is a powerful decongestant, it opens up the lung walls to increase breathing capacity. Hence if you're bunged up it clears it up. The advantage could be gained I suppose by increased lung capacity, hardly needed in a keeper. As for the weight loss may I suggest you try doing as much running as Paddy has these last couple of summers and see how much you lose.

Or alternatively getting a gastric band like strap on

:thumbup:

 

[ripper]

hope we take the punishment on the chin and get on with the football,but more importantly,lets stick by paddy,he's had a tough time with his personal life,would you kick someone when they are down? lets look forward to welcoming him back for the promotion party!

 

[Berks_Blade]

Given that a 2-year ban was being talked about as a possibility, it could have been worse. A ban to April means he gets back in training at the end of the season and can take part in a full pre-season next summer. I doubt he was anything other than stupid, so hope he's given the chance to fight for his place another season, though if we get Bunn in and he does well then Paddy can't expect to come straight back in after a ban.

 

[dansufc]

That's true.

As you say, lost a lot of weight . Makes you wonder how long he's been taking this 'cough medicine'???

that or the shit loads of fund raising he's been doing.

 

[lenners]

Given that a 2-year ban was being talked about as a possibility, it could have been worse. A ban to April means he gets back in training at the end of the season and can take part in a full pre-season next summer. I doubt he was anything other than stupid, so hope he's given the chance to fight for his place another season, though if we get Bunn in and he does well then Paddy can't expect to come straight back in after a ban.

He'd have to be given a new contract for that to be the case and I sincerely hope United think very long and hard about offering him one after the way he's acted up in recent times as well as the drugs ban.
Offer him something on vastly reduced wages and if he wants to go elsewhere and someone's prepared to take him on, fair enough.

 

[davidpinder]

i think a few people are being a bit harsh it has been proven it was a geniune mistake i feel sorry for the lad, he will have been trying desperately to stay fit and not miss any matches at the end of the season. For me it an act of a true blade he didn't take anything on purpose that has been admited i think as we all know united are not liked by the F A so he was always going to get a harsh ban so everyone can have a laugh at us agian.

Good luck paddy up the blades

 

[Pinchy]

i am interested in how it makes your performance better tho , is it true that it can slim you down very fast , as we know paddy was a big lad ?

That is indeed one of the effects of epherdrine.

I wish Paddy well. He has been (and may again be) an asset to our club.

For now we need to look beyond Bunn. He has done fine but a modern keeper needs to be bigger and stronger than ever before and dominate his area. I'm looking elsewhere I'm afraid.

Has anyone seen this Huddersfield lad Smithies? (Yes Blacky, I know you have!)

 

[beechblade]

I feel for Paddy and I'm gutted for the lad, he was stupid but has been punished harshly.

Yes he made the mistake.... a mistake so I wish blades would stop acting like he is a 'Drugs Cheat' when there are players out there taking or prehaps dealing or buying class A substances getting lightier bans.

I read something where a Man U fan (nonetheless) started slagging him off for being a cheat and setting a bad example to young lads, well I ask this what does this say about the FA that are willing to allow players dealing or buying class A drugs to continue playing or issusing lighter bans, or possible players missing test because they may have tested positive for a drug (whether he intentionally did it or not, he recieved the same length on ban, and that situation smells guilt to me, this doesn't)?? I think this is to make more of an example of Sheffield United rather than the player himself, if you accept that he didn't do it intentionally to take the drug to enhance his preformance then you are effectively stating he is innocent or free from guilt.

 

[gregblade]

That is indeed one of the effects of epherdrine.

I wish Paddy well. He has been (and may again be) an asset to our club.

For now we need to look beyond Bunn. He has done fine but a modern keeper needs to be bigger and stronger than ever before and dominate his area. I'm looking elsewhere I'm afraid.

Has anyone seen this Huddersfield lad Smithies? (Yes Blacky, I know you have!)

I see no reason why we shouldn't try and keep Bunn, he's look assured in every game. The reason people question him his because he comes out and punches rather than catches. A simple trait that Blackwell can sort out, if he thinks it should be sorted out. At least Bunn comes for crosses, something Kenny doesn't.

Theres not much Bunn can do when Killa gives players the time and space he did against West Brom......

 

[silverfox]

Although i've always liked Paddy I don't share the sympathy.

I think he should go!

A pro football player paid good wages only has a few rules to work by.

Turn up to training on time.

Do as you are told.

Don't take anything from Boots or anywhere else without checking with the club doc!

I'm afraid I would get rid!

 

[WhiteHawk]

General concensus on another football forum I go on (one used by fans of all clubs) is that this punishment is ridiculous.

I wouldn't have complained at say, a 3 month ban but 9 months when the FA accept that it wasn't taken as a performance enhancer? What a joke. Even Bedner only got about 3 months and he used a Class A drug!!