Our only hope !

[beightonblade]

McCabe fooks off.

 

[dingledog]

And takes his baggage with him

 

[super_pig]

and his precious judas tevez money that he was so willing to drag our great name through the mud to get

 

[Foxy]

and his precious judas tevez money that he was so willing to drag our great name through the mud to get

For all his failings, he was standing up for our name in that instance.

 

[SotonBlade]

Be careful what you wish for BB

 

[alcoblade]

Yep, dead right for fighting our corner, dead wrong for spunking all the money on concrete, coupled with huge loans for more concrete.

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[beightonblade]

Be careful what you wish for BB

We can't do worse SB........................ I just hope he leaves the freehold !

 

[puppet]

For all his failings, he was standing up for our name in that instance.

i think youll find he was standing up for his bank balance. not one aspect of the tevez affair did us one iota of good as a club

 

[Foxy]

i think youll find he was standing up for his bank balance. not one aspect of the tevez affair did us one iota of good as a club

Well it's paying off the loan which paid off the mortgage we'd otherwise be lumbered with, so I'd disagree with you there.

 

[Vancouver]

i think youll find he was standing up for his bank balance. not one aspect of the tevez affair did us one iota of good as a club

I was proud of McCabe for his campaign. Whatever the motives he highlighted the bullshit ways the Premiership work rather just sit back and accept being screwed over.

 

[alcoblade]

Well it's paying off the loan which paid off the mortgage we'd otherwise be lumbered with, so I'd disagree with you there.

Exactly. I'm always bemused when people think it was wasted because they haven't seen the proceeds on the pitch. Imagine the doo doo we'd be in without it. Wrong emphasis again for me. No problem with fighting and winning Tevez - it's the decisions that meant that money had to pay off loans that should be questioned.

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[Rattly Noise]

If we'd never had the Tevez money then we wouldn't have been able to spend the Tevez money on all the expensive mistakes. Could have meant we got relegated sooner or not made the play-offs etc.. who's to know. Worse case scenario we could have still spent it, still made mistakes and then gone bust. None of the options look good from where i'm sitting.

 

[lenners]

Exactly. I'm always bemused when people think it was wasted because they haven't seen the proceeds on the pitch. Imagine the doo doo we'd be in without it. Wrong emphasis again for me. No problem with fighting and winning Tevez - it's the decisions that meant that money had to pay off loans that should be questioned.

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I think perhaps you mean you wonder where Kevin McCabe would be without it.
Slightly less rich than he is today.
Got ferk all to do with the 122-year-old institution he's the current steward of.

 

[MethvenBlades]

As long has healthy bank balance he couldn't care less about the blades, for the lenght of time he has a hole up his back end he will never care about the club

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[lenners]

Well it's paying off the loan which paid off the mortgage we'd otherwise be lumbered with, so I'd disagree with you there.

What has Kevin McCabe done since getting the dosh?
What has he said since getting the dosh?
What has he said today, the day he club he owns on our behalf got relegated to play League One football?
I'm sure there's an answer for you Foxy if you're prepared to open your eyes.

 

[gavtheblade]

calm down dear-nowt we can do now,its over,he`s fucked up like we all have.no use taking it out on linz,its not her fault.

 

[Rustyblade]

Well it's paying off the loan which paid off the mortgage we'd otherwise be lumbered with, so I'd disagree with you there.

What exactly was mortgaged, Foxy?

 

[Big Mart]

Exactly. I'm always bemused when people think it was wasted because they haven't seen the proceeds on the pitch. Imagine the doo doo we'd be in without it.

Think it may have something to do with the name, it's "Sheffield United FOOTBALL Club" first and foremost. All good and well having a fantastic stadium with a nice hotel in the corner, but plying your trade in the 3rd division really isn't all that great.
To that end, it has been wasted because the proceeds weren't seen on the pitch, it's just another reason why we're where we are now.

 

[Rattly Noise]

As long has healthy bank balance he couldn't care less about the blades, for the lenght of time he has a hole up his back end he will never care about the club

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You're probably right, but that's the case for nearly every owner of a football club. It's business first and foremost that matters to them. Would be good if it were different, but it's not. Best anyone can hope for is another sucker who's prepared to put an endless supply of money into the club with little chance of return. Being a Blade comes second. Giving the manager money comes first. Now McCabe isn't prepared to do that anymore he might as well sell up. One silver lining of relegation might be that he'll have to sell the club for a lower price than before, opening up the very limited number of potential buyers out there. Whether that'll benefit us in the long term is something only time will tell, but it's also what every club is after so don;t expect it to happen quickly

 

[The One]

Is that you Obi-wan?

 

[super_pig]

>For all his failings, he was standing up for our name in that instance
naah i'm sorry foxy but i just don't buy it.. he saw the dollar signs and went for it.. personally i found the whole thing embarassing.. plus it meant that the thing dragged on in the background and the players didn't get closure for two years.. in the current qpr thing our name is still getting dragged up as that 'damned sheffield united' and such like

 

[alcoblade]

I think perhaps you mean you wonder where Kevin McCabe would be without it.
Slightly less rich than he is today.
Got ferk all to do with the 122-year-old institution he's the current steward of.

The club has £20M less debt than it otherwise would have. Your failure to grasp this ever so simple concept does you no credit. I expect you to blather on about a list of other failings, a good few that I would agree with. None of which will alter the central issue, we're £20M better off as a result - however low that bar is set.

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[lenners]

The club has £20M less debt than it otherwise would have. Your failure to grasp this ever so simple concept does you no credit. I expect you to blather on about a list of other failings, a good few that I would agree with. None of which will alter the central issue, we're £20M better off as a result - however low that bar is set.

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I have no beef with McCabe for fighting the club's corner.
It's the very obvious disappearance of his highness since securing the money that should give even you pause for thought as to what it was really all about.
I read a lot of your postings and am starting to come to the conclusion that your logic will ultimately take you to the view that, financially, we should scrap the first team.
It's too costly and we could keep an academy, make money out of that, gather together on a Saturday afternoon and cheer the latest balance sheet figures.
Somewhere along the line, too many fans got seduced by money above football. You've been a classic example with your cheerleading for the great value of the academy and its great worth through player sales.
If you're lucky, you'll be able to cheerlead a bit more over the coming months with more success and more sales.

 

[alcoblade]

My logic will always come to the same conclusion - we should have made far less of the decisions that got us so heavily in debt - and from here we should take decisions that put us on the road to a sound financial footing. FROM THERE we should build a team we can be proud of, and one that we can sustain and fend off unwanted advances because we can afford to pay todays bills. Your faith in the money tree is sadly flawed.

Until the days of paying incredibly average players like Gary Naysmith £1.5M per year, cheered on by yourself, are wiped clean, we will continue to HAVE to sell saleable assets. Those that hounded out a quality manager like Neil Warnock, opening the door for shite like Bryan Robson, should hang their heads in shame along with McCabe.

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[lenners]

Of all the examples to pick on, Naysmith is a very odd one.
Played very well in the season we got to the play-off final and has a career record that stands up very well.
If you'd said the evil pixie, you'd be on much stronger ground.
As for money trees, I'm afraid every club has to have them - bar probably Man U, Arsenal and Liverpool.
Thought someone of your acute financial acumen would have noticed that by now. You don't need to look very far - three miles across the city would give you an immediate clue.
Still, following your logic, you'll be able to come on here and tell us all, again, what a great success the sale of Lowton is and so on and so on...

 

[super_pig]

bramall lane student flats in ten years??

 

[alcoblade]

Of all the examples to pick on, Naysmith is a very odd one.
Played very well in the season we got to the play-off final and has a career record that stands up very well.
If you'd said the evil pixie, you'd be on much stronger ground.
As for money trees, I'm afraid every club has to have them - bar probably Man U, Arsenal and Liverpool.
Thought someone of your acute financial acumen would have noticed that by now. You don't need to look very far - three miles across the city would give you an immediate clue.
Still, following your logic, you'll be able to come on here and tell us all, again, what a great success the sale of Lowton is and so on and so on...

Wow - so at least you reveal the grand foundations to your plan. Someone else, from somehwre else, somehow turns up and gives us their hard earned wealth. We can't identify them, but they owe it to us.

Top stuff Len, you've exceeded yourself. Forget thinking about how we pay the wages with money we haven't got. Let some mystery man do it.

So the money tree really exists. Nice one Len.

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[raul]

If I read you right Alco, KM has made some shockingly bad decisions, but that's ok becuase he's put money in. Now he's not putting the money in what, really, are his credentials for running a Football Club?

 

[Bladesway]

I too think its far more important that we take Len to task for his views rather than analyse what the hell is going wrong and why. After all, its more important you find a scapegoat you can talk to than one you can't isn't it?

 

[lenners]

Wow - so at least you reveal the grand foundations to your plan. Someone else, from somehwre else, somehow turns up and gives us their hard earned wealth. We can't identify them, but they owe it to us.

Top stuff Len, you've exceeded yourself. Forget thinking about how we pay the wages with money we haven't got. Let some mystery man do it.

So the money tree really exists. Nice one Len.

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Alco, remind us all which clubs have the ability to make money in the top two leagues of English football?
They nearly all rely on benefactors, loans and probably worse in some cases. All branches coming off the money tree.
In quite a few cases, the raising of the profile of club owners and the help that provides them in business elsewhere probably helps make it worth it.
For McCabe, owning United helped open doors around the world, to make more money around the world.
I'd have thought someone of your financial acumen and acute insight into how football operates would have known all this.