Our new manager is.....

[LoughboroBlade]

I suspect England international and experienced Championship manager Nigel Clough knows a good deal more about what the game is about than a half-decent but rather basic Centre-Half from Barnsley.

If Clough is appointed I'll be giving him my full support. But let's be honest, his Championship experience appears mediocre, and if his name was Nigel Fairclough it is likely he'd currently be managing a League 2 team like fellow England international James Beattie.

 

[brownie4583]

Happily, for once on my life, the shite (a love for proper football) is shared by those running our club.

I can almost feel the frustration as that precious prehistoric anti-football is slipping away. Why not watch Port Vale in future? They 'played' your sort of stuff today. Horrible, it was.

What is 'proper' football??
There is no such thing,it doesn't exist!
Football is 11 team players who basically have to score more goals than their opponents to win the game and collect 3 points.This is achieved by short passes,long passes,hard graft,tackling,closing down,pace,experience,tactics,set pieces,good defending,good goalkeeping,creativity,good marking,skill,quality etc etc.
If this can be achieved playing like Barcelona or Spain that would be even better,but that isn't going to happen with the quality of players we have,so we have to play to our strengths with what we have got at the moment.
I want us to employ a manager who plays a more direct attacking style who will bring in better players and turn BDTBL back into a fortress again.

 

[JohnDenver]

If Clough is appointed I'll be giving him my full support. But let's be honest, his Championship experience appears mediocre, and if his name was Nigel Fairclough it is likely he'd currently be managing a League 2 team like fellow England international James Beattie.

Mediocre is harsh. I wish we'd had him instead of Blackwell et al. Losing parachute money and holding station is a seriously difficult trick to pull off.

The idea that Derby fans only allowed him to continue without protest because his dad was called Brian is a fallacy. Football fans are far more unforgiving than that.

 

[torridon]

4. Sheffield United have, beyond a shadow of a doubt, some of the most primitive, parochial, prehistoric 'supporters' in the world. It is embarrassing

I'm sorry but that is absolute rubbish, take a look on any Bristol City forum at the moment and it is like reading this one a fortnight ago, tippy tappy football not working, managers tactics boring everyone to death, fans calling for a Warnock style manager to instil some passion, it's not just us. Surely every supporter of every club just wants to see their team winning, isn't that the object of the game after all, so how you can defend the boring winless drivel that Mr Weir served up week in week out amazes me. Most teams play a mixture of all styles, as we have done in the past 25 years. You make it sound as if we had only played the John Beck style Cambridge United kick and rush football up until Mr Weir arrived.

 

[MobileBlade]

You make it sound as if we had only played the John Beck style Cambridge United kick and rush football .

And look what happened to them when they tried the tippy tappy stuff

 

[sheffielder]

I was told yesterday that Barker has told the board he wants the job.

 

[LSF]

I suspect England international and experienced Championship manager Nigel Clough knows a good deal more about what the game is about than a half-decent but rather basic Centre-Half from Barnsley. I appreciate the thought of a United team passing the ball to each other is an unsettling one for you Hoofers, but there's always those Wimbledon videos (Betamax of course) to pass the long winter nights.

That's a bit like saying Alf Ramsey, a 'shunt 'em on to the cinder track' full back, knew less about managing a football team, than Bobby Charlton, the darling of English football in the 50's & 60's. One went on to revolutionise how we played the game and won a world cup, the other failed at PNE!
Pinchy, you are fast becoming the Brian the Blade of this message board - Just a wind up wallah and sounding more ridiculous by the day!

 

[Pinchy]

I'm sorry but that is absolute rubbish, take a look on any Bristol City forum at the moment and it is like reading this one a fortnight ago, tippy tappy football not working, managers tactics boring everyone to death, fans calling for a Warnock style manager to instil some passion, it's not just us. Surely every supporter of every club just wants to see their team winning, isn't that the object of the game after all, so how you can defend the boring winless drivel that Mr Weir served up week in week out amazes me. Most teams play a mixture of all styles, as we have done in the past 25 years. You make it sound as if we had only played the John Beck style Cambridge United kick and rush football up until Mr Weir arrived.

My defence of Weir was based on what might be, given time, rather than what was actually produced. I acknowledged weeks ago that he could only go on losing for so long. The board took no pleasure in sacking him, neither did I.

Pass and move football is the right way to play the game. The problem DW failed to overcome is that passing must be done with purpose and with a slick change of gear at the opportune moment. That's how Barca, Bayern, Arsenal and Swansea do it. We didn't.

What the Hoofers need to realise (they won't - they're thick) is that you can't play at 100mph for 90 minutes. There is no room for change of tempo when you do that.

Arsenal are lighting up the league at the moment with their delightful proper football - playing the right way. Guess what - it wins matches and puts you top of the league.

You speak of Bristol fans. Are you aware that at Stoke, players and fans alike wanted the Hoofing Hero out? They wanted to play and watch football.

Upanatem!

 

[JJ Sefton]

I suspect England international and experienced Championship manager Nigel Clough knows a good deal more about what the game is about than a half-decent but rather basic Centre-Half from Barnsley.

I suspect former England international and experiend Premiershipo manager Bryan Robson knows a good deal more about what the game is about than a decent but rather basic centre forward from Falkirk.

 

[JJ Sefton]

My defence of Weir was based on what might be, given time, rather than what was actually produced.

Same as my defence of those magic beans I bought.

 

[Pinchy]

Same as my defence of those magic beans I bought.

You must be very frustrated that the new regime at our club want to drag us into the 21st century. You Hoofers have a panic attack at the thought of the 20th. It is unproductive, however, to vent your frustrations on me - I have no power or influence. You should launch a determined and persistent campaign of lobbying the club. Make yourself heard! You should proudly proclaim:

We Hoof; We Want Hoof; We demand Hoof!

I'm sure you'll be taken seriously.

 

[JJ Sefton]

I'm sure you'll be taken seriously.

See, Alanis Morissette should have sung about that, THAT'S fucking ironic.

 

[Darren]

That's a bit like saying Alf Ramsey, a 'shunt 'em on to the cinder track' full back, knew less about managing a football team, than Bobby Charlton, the darling of English football in the 50's & 60's. One went on to revolutionise how we played the game and won a world cup, the other failed at PNE!
Pinchy, you are fast becoming the Brian the Blade of this message board - Just a wind up wallah and sounding more ridiculous by the day!

Indeed. It's actually a fact that the only managers who have had any success with United over the last 40 or so years are players whose playing career was mediocre at best. Furphy (6th place in the top tier), Porterfield (2 promotions), Bassett (2 promotions) and Warnock (one promotion and two semi finals) hardly played a single top division game between them.

On the other hand, Peters, Kendall, Spackman, Bruce, Heath, Robson, Speed and Weir, all with glittering playing careers and lots of caps and medals achieved precisely fuck all.

There is a serious correlation in United managers between a poor playing career and relative success as a manger.

 

[Darren]

I suspect former England international and experiend Premiershipo manager Bryan Robson knows a good deal more about what the game is about than a decent but rather basic centre forward from Falkirk.

Incidentally, I was flicking through a biography of Fergie in that remainder bookshop on Upper Street yesterday and read that we offered him the United job at a salary on £40K a year in the summer of 81 when he was Aberdeen manager and we had just been relegated to D4. I never knew that....

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

You appear to be the only one covering their ears around here while you throw your teddy's out of the pram.
If you open your blinkered eyes then you would see that we have created more chances in the last two games than we have all season.
The object of the game is to score goals. To score goals you have to create chances. David Wier was too interested in possession football to the detriment of creating goal scoring opportunities. Hence the position we are in. I do not care whether they pass it short or pass it long as long as they create chances, score more goals than the opposition and win.
If you watched the England game last Tuesday you would have seen long and short passes and the key to winning, mix it up and create chances.

Pinchy's time will come; when they introduce marks for artistic licence.

Dancing on ice must give him a boner

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

To ease the pressure of Pinchy, I think we should ask him to make some more realistic arguments than the nonsense he's been left defending.

Let's start with the Pope not being Catholic...............

I'll start off giving him a helping hand

He's Argentinian

 

[blade too long]

what is good football , watched man utd last night the prem champions again huff and puff, score from a knock down , loads saying england have no chance in the world cup as we only beat Poland 2-0 whereas current world cup holders Spain anhilated Georgia 2-0, trouble is theres no real definition , of what constitutes good football , but as long as its exciting and gets you on your feet surely thats good football , and at times yesterday we did that

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Indeed. It's actually a fact that the only managers who have had any success with United over the last 40 or so years are players whose playing career was mediocre at best. Furphy (6th place in the top tier), Porterfield (2 promotions), Bassett (2 promotions) and Warnock (one promotion and two semi finals) hardly played a single top division game between them.

On the other hand, Peters, Kendall, Spackman, Bruce, Heath, Robson, Speed and Weir, all with glittering playing careers and lots of caps and medals achieved precisely fuck all.

There is a serious correlation in United managers between a poor playing career and relative success as a manger.

Spackman and Kendal shouldn't be in that list, especially Kendal

 

[oldblade]

As you have clearly evidenced that you cannot distinguish a precisely-delivered long pass to a team-mate [Currie; Hoddle] from an aimless punt in the general direction of the other end of the pitch [Kozluk; Montgomery], I fear there is no more I can do for you.

Have you tried Tug-O-War? I have a feeling it might suit you better than football.

And did Unsworth just punt it, or was he actually quite good at making long, accurate passes? And my eyes obviously deceived me when I saw him score direct from a corner against Derby.

I suppose Jagielka, Brown, Tonge, Ndlovu, McCall, Harley and everyone else from around 2002-7 just shut their eyes, wellied it long and crossed their fingers.

 

[anglian blade]

There is a serious correlation in United managers between a poor playing career and relative success as a manger.

I think you could quite happily leave the "United " out of that sentence

 

[oldblade]

what is good football , watched man utd last night the prem champions again huff and puff, score from a knock down , loads saying england have no chance in the world cup as we only beat Poland 2-0 whereas current world cup holders Spain anhilated Georgia 2-0, trouble is theres no real definition , of what constitutes good football , but as long as its exciting and gets you on your feet surely thats good football , and at times yesterday we did that

Good football is whatever suits Pinchy's argument at the time.

 

[grafikhaus]

I'm sorry but that is absolute rubbish, take a look on any Bristol City forum at the moment...

...whose manager is a certain Sean O'Driscoll, touted by many to be a good choice for SUFC manager. Can't win, sampylad. This management lark is a gamble. O'Driscoll had his day in the sun at Donnie. It 'clicked', the chemistry was there. Trying to recreate that with a new club with different players & culture is the equivalent of alchemy.

He didn't realise this and headed for the bright lights of Crawley Town where he left without being in charge for a single game. Onward to a key job at Nottingham Forest. Sacked there after five months, he's pitched up at Bristol City on January 14, 2013 when they were rock-bottom of the Championship. Nine months later, he's now 'progressed' them to rock-bottom of League One.

 

[Darren]

Spackman and Kendal shouldn't be in that list, especially Kendal

I agree they weren't as bad as the others, but they never actually achieved anything AND they had tons of money to play with.

 

[metalblade]

Lord help us if Clough gets the job, what a CV 10 years to get a well funded club out of the conference and the rest of his time spent with a stagnating Derby County, no thanks. I honestly would prefer Morgan to carry on until a better manager can be found. All this fucking about rather than going out and getting a decent manager tells me the Prince's investment is probably not much more than the original £1 spent to get a 50% stake, the club is fast becoming a huge laughing stock, a bit like Pinchy. And Jim Phipps can go fuck himself too, all gob no action.

 

[blade too long]

wednesday exalted Dave Jones , but hes just took their worst ever start record off the great Len Ashurst

 

[oldblade]

My defence of Weir was based on what might be, given time, rather than what was actually produced. I acknowledged weeks ago that he could only go on losing for so long. The board took no pleasure in sacking him, neither did I.

Pass and move football is the right way to play the game. The problem DW failed to overcome is that passing must be done with purpose and with a slick change of gear at the opportune moment. That's how Barca, Bayern, Arsenal and Swansea do it. We didn't.

Funny, there was me thinking that scoring more goals than the opposition was the right way to play.

 

[Pinchy]

Funny, there was me thinking that scoring more goals than the opposition was the right way to play.

Ask the professionals what they think the phrase means. They use it all the time.

Everyone is out of step except you S2 Hoofers. Even the people running our club. I don't know whether to laugh or cry!

 

[alcoblade]

Ask the professionals what they think the phrase means. They use it all the time.

Everyone is out of step except you S2 Hoofers. Even the people running our club. I don't know whether to laugh or cry!

If you're so sure of what you say, list the managers who don't believe in "pass and move".

But it's not pass and move you're after. It's pass above all else.

I have joked about your sanity. I'm starting to regret it as I'm really concerned for your mental health. Your latest posts suggest you've let a young child loose with your pc. Seriously, are you OK?

UTB

 

[brownie4583]

The DW style of play does not work in this division,and Bristol City playing a very similar style under O'Driscoll are bottom also.
You need a stronger more direct style in League 1 and we need a manager on a 12 month rolling contract who can implement this (eg Pulis),and take us up to the championship and then take it from there i reckon.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I agree they weren't as bad as the others, but they never actually achieved anything AND they had tons of money to play with.

Thought Kendal took us to Wembley? Palace?