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boo radley said:
Good 3 points indeed!
Are you questioning fans tactical ability on here?
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I am questioning why fans fail to understand when our full back passes back to our goalie who in turn then passes it to the other full back that this is done FOR A REASON.
I am questioning why fans fail to understand when the ball is being moved in the midfield area from one side of the pitch to the other and back again, sometimes repeatedly that this is being done FOR A REASON.
I am questioning why our fans fail to Understand that when the goalie is looking for an out ball on the edge of the area when the goalie has possession instead of booting it 70 yards upfield that this is done FOR A REASON.
So yes, I am challenging our fans to Start trying to understand why we do the things we do and the thinking behind it.
Question. How many times have you heard large sections of the crowd jeering at our apparent lack of willingness to get the ball forwards only for either :-
A. A long ball being played that does not find its target.
B. A few seconds after said jeering for a defence splitting pass being made that creates a good opportunity to score.

The problem as I see it is that a large (but not all) sections of our support are, bluntly, clueless when it comes to modern footballing tactics and systems. I am quite sure that there will be posters on this very forum who are as far removed from this ascertion as you could possibly get and may have even managed at a decent (semi-pro) level.
I would guess that this might be well under 5% of fans / posters on this forum so by inference the other 95% will range from complete numpties to a basic level of understanding. See my point ?

Do you think Adkins is briefed to send out a boring side ?

No.

Adkins is briefed to send out a WINNING side and this, at L1 level at least, will not always come with free flowing attractive football.

I would urge our fans to try and understand what is being done on the pitch and, more importantly why.

The style of play and the methods and patterns of play favoured by Adkns are here to stay so jeering it is, in all honesty, futile.

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DronnieBlade said:
Drink
Sleep
Eat
Repeat .....

We, the Royal we have been at times, fiercely critical of the club,board, manager and players.

How many out of 10 would you give the fans, collectively, today ?

I'll start.

3. And a generous 3 at that.

I'll go back to the OP. So many of our fans demonstrate a genuine lack of understanding of BASIC footballing tactics.

Not saying by any means today was wonderful to watch and / or an utterly dominant performance btw.

But we were more than good enough for the 3 points today.

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Well lucky for us weve got your
coaxingstar71 said:
More proof, if it were needed, that the average football fan knows f*** all about the game.
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lucky for us theyre are a half dozen or so on here who know everything
 
judge said:
Well lucky for us weve got your
lucky for us theyre are a half dozen or so on here who know everything
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Your what exactly ....... ?

See my post # 211 for a more detailed explanation of what I am pointing out. And an admission that I am not and never have been a know all !!

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Tyler Durden said:
The quality of support throughout the season overall has actually been far better than it was the season after relegation from the Premiership when we were getting around 26k and it was still deathly quiet.
Considering the shit we've had this season it's been far better and less critical than it could be.
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To be fair, there's been nothing to sing about for a long time. It is possible for a crowd to enjoy a match and appreciate passages of play without breaking into song? Most of us old buggers are way past singing anyway.

Surely 'support' isn't defined by the number of singing/chants? It's defined by the magnificent numbers who turn up at every home game. Lies, damn lies and...

Fulwood Blade said:
I watched a different game to you today.

Decided to get the BBC possession stats of the game

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Those figures above is the game I saw on our OWN patch again.

Agreed though - good 3 points and we move on.

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It's high time 'possession' was discarded as any meaningful statistic. It means nothing. Meaningful possession, maybe but not keeping the ball because there's nothing else on?
 
grafikhaus said:
To be fair, there's been nothing to sing about for a long time. It is possible for a crowd to enjoy a match and appreciate passages of play without breaking into song? Most of us old buggers are way past singing anyway.

Surely 'support' isn't defined by the number of singing/chants? It's defined by the magnificent numbers who turn up at every home game. Lies, damn lies and...



It's high time 'possession' was discarded as any meaningful statistic. It means nothing. Meaningful possession, maybe but not keeping the ball because there's nothing else on?
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Was sat in G block and most of the action 2nd half was played in the part of the field I was looking at.

True PV did fuck all with all the possession - Wigan would have stuffed us with that amount - just as they did 2 weeks ago.

We were once again dominated on our own patch by an average team who were well drilled.

Fortunately for us - crap up front.

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grafikhaus said:
To be fair, there's been nothing to sing about for a long time. It is possible for a crowd to enjoy a match and appreciate passages of play without breaking into song? Most of us old buggers are way past singing anyway.

Surely 'support' isn't defined by the number of singing/chants? It's defined by the magnificent numbers who turn up at every home game. Lies, damn lies and...



It's high time 'possession' was discarded as any meaningful statistic. It means nothing. Meaningful possession, maybe but not keeping the ball because there's nothing else on?
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I do take your point G, but you must also understand there is a reason why possession is perhaps the first piece of statistical information that is used to sum up a game for a reason

It's not the be all and end all but it is, quite important.

UTB
 
I think we all feel deflated about not being embedded in the top 4 , pushing for an automatic spot , but when you look we are still 7th

32 games 48 points exactly 1.5 points per game
we are 4 points of 6th with apart from wigan the other 5 above us to play
just saying we wont beat any of them is defeatist , and seeing as weve only lost to gillingham badly
millwall , a game we could have won we lost to deflections
drew at walsall beat coventry drew at burton
so its as they say never over till Susan Boyle sings

averaging 1.5 means we are well clear of the ludicrous idea we can go down
and probably only a 10 pwer cent improvement from getting into the top 6

so lets give ourselves the slimmest of hopes we can find the mojo we know we have in our capabilities
when fully in use
 
Fulwood Blade said:
We were once again dominated on our own patch by an average team

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how can we be dominated by a team who couldnt manage 1 shot on target
read 4 reports from differing sources all saying we won comfortably
why are our fans saying we werent very good , are we being too harsh
 
Our fans (apart from those who maintain little shrines for McCabe in their bedrooms, & pray nightly in front of it for the return to him of his £90million) -


 
blade too long said:
how can we be dominated by a team who couldnt manage 1 shot on target
read 4 reports from differing sources all saying we won comfortably
why are our fans saying we werent very good , are we being too harsh
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Of course we can be dominated by a team who CAN'T play in the final third. I find your statement strange.

PV were just woeful up top. As for chances, we had 11, they had 5 (according to the BBC) and the big difference was a 10K striker who scored for us. I doubt any PV player is on more than 2K per week, never mind the multitude of ours who are on bucket loads. Strikers costs lots and demand high wages, PV can't afford that and has been said so by the PV chairman who is trying to sell up due to the amount of cash he is losing.

I obviously watched a different game to you - I at least have the BBC backing up my claims of 43% against 57% possession on our own pitch.

You are a brave man to argue against those stats good luck.

With Wigan's strikers they would have buried us.

UTB
 
DronnieBlade said:
Your what exactly ....... ?

See my post # 211 for a more detailed explanation of what I am pointing out. And an admission that I am not and never have been a know all !!

UTB
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I wasnt saying ( badly ) that you are
I was thinking of several others
Should have made that clearer
 
Fulwood Blade said:
I obviously watched a different game to you - I at least have the BBC backing up my claims of 43% against 57% possession on our own pitch.

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weve lost in games weve had far more possesion
Arsenal had 78 per cent possession against hull didnt win

we had more attempts created more chances , thats other than those up top
and the bbc report you mention
said we deserved it
 
DronnieBlade said:
I do take your point G, but you must also understand there is a reason why possession is perhaps the first piece of statistical information that is used to sum up a game for a reason

It's not the be all and end all but it is, quite important.

UTB
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There is only one statistical piece of information to sum up a game, the score line, all the rest are bollocks.
 



DronnieBlade said:
I am questioning why fans fail to understand when our full back passes back to our goalie who in turn then passes it to the other full back that this is done FOR A REASON.
I am questioning why fans fail to understand when the ball is being moved in the midfield area from one side of the pitch to the other and back again, sometimes repeatedly that this is being done FOR A REASON.
I am questioning why our fans fail to Understand that when the goalie is looking for an out ball on the edge of the area when the goalie has possession instead of booting it 70 yards upfield that this is done FOR A REASON.
So yes, I am challenging our fans to Start trying to understand why we do the things we do and the thinking behind it.
Question. How many times have you heard large sections of the crowd jeering at our apparent lack of willingness to get the ball forwards only for either :-
A. A long ball being played that does not find its target.
B. A few seconds after said jeering for a defence splitting pass being made that creates a good opportunity to score.

The problem as I see it is that a large (but not all) sections of our support are, bluntly, clueless when it comes to modern footballing tactics and systems. I am quite sure that there will be posters on this very forum who are as far removed from this ascertion as you could possibly get and may have even managed at a decent (semi-pro) level.
I would guess that this might be well under 5% of fans / posters on this forum so by inference the other 95% will range from complete numpties to a basic level of understanding. See my point ?

Do you think Adkins is briefed to send out a boring side ?

No.

Adkins is briefed to send out a WINNING side and this, at L1 level at least, will not always come with free flowing attractive football.

I would urge our fans to try and understand what is being done on the pitch and, more importantly why.

The style of play and the methods and patterns of play favoured by Adkns are here to stay so jeering it is, in all honesty, futile.

UTB
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Have you actually asked any of them in person or do you think they will read your questioning as a direct challenge?
I would suggest that your so called "large" section is not as large as you think. it is more vocal from a small minority but it is easily heard.
I have a question for you; what happened when either keeper got the ball yesterday in terms of the way it was distributed and the outfield players set up?
 
boo radley said:
Have you actually asked any of them in person or do you think they will read your questioning as a direct challenge?
I would suggest that your so called "large" section is not as large as you think. it is more vocal from a small minority but it is easily heard.
I have a question for you; what happened when either keeper got the ball yesterday in terms of the way it was distributed and the outfield players set up?
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Broadly PV were much more direct in their overall approach and our 3 main defenders handled this very well. Thus the reason we nullified their overall offensive threat.

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DronnieBlade said:
Broadly PV were much more direct in their overall approach and our 3 main defenders handled this very well. Thus the reason we nullified their overall offensive threat.

UTB
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What about asking those who you believe are tactically lacking as you suggest. Have you challenged any? I think you may need to realize it is a lot less than the numbers you think. they are just heard but we will all cheer a Blades goal.
 
Foxy said:
Was a member here, with a similar username, but hasn't been online (logged in) since 2011.

Seem to recall some sort of flounce followed by slagging us off elsewhere.
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Cheers. Saw his photo in members photo section and I knew his face but not his name. Must be Dronfield Blade then
 
Deleted Member said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17028347

Is the one you are referring to? This was from the day that with freezing temperatures and snow forecast, it would be a good day to go hiking up Kinder Scout woefully underprepared.
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Remember him from unitedite
Never a week would go by where he wasnt involved in some crazy incident involving him and his missus
Attacks on buses and on the street and some fair old personal tragedy if i remember rightly
 



Why on earth should our fans be expected to know anything about the tactics of football, when our board, manager and players don't?
 
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