Old Photos For No Reason Whatsoever

[HighfieldBlade]

Bri and Irene's on the left,3 shops on the corner of Shoreham Street/Cherry Street,lovely photos these Sir

You don't need to call me 'sir'

 

[YouFUMS]

I just want to say that this is quite possibly the most enjoyable thread I've ever read.
Thanks to everyone that is contributing. Some great pics that are evoking some fantastic memories.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Not sure, I would guess at 1969, might be a year or two out

Think the last plate digit is "C", which was 1965, so you could be spot on there SEB

 

[Knackered Blade]

Agreed. Think he would have struggled as a wing-back, though!

A measure of Cec Coldwell's character was shown in the 1962/63 season. Every season he was virtually ever-present, 'Cec Coldwell Played 42'.

Towards the end of the 1962/63 season, although on course for yet another 'Played 42' and although he was fit to play, he allowed a certain Len Badger to make his league debut in a night match on Friday, 26th April 1962 against bottom club Leyton Orient. There were four matches to go in the season. Also in the same match, Graham Shaw allowed his brother Bernard to play at Left Back to make his debut. Graham too was ever-present in the league until that match.

United won 2-0 (Mick Jones, Barry Hartle) and both debut players played well. I can only imagine Leyton Orient were already relegated, when the match took place, or there would have been repercussions. Leyton Orient finished on 21 points and were relegated with Manchester City on 31 points (2 points for a win of course).

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

A measure of Cec Coldwell's character was shown in the 1962/63 season. Every season he was virtually ever-present, 'Cec Coldwell Played 42'.

Towards the end of the 1962/63 season, although on course for yet another 'Played 42' and although he was fit to play, he allowed a certain Len Badger to make his league debut in a night match on Friday, 26th April 1962 against bottom club Leyton Orient. There were four matches to go in the season. Also in the same match, Graham Shaw allowed his brother Bernard to play at Left Back to make his debut. Graham too was ever-present in the league until that match.

United won 2-0 (Mick Jones, Barry Hartle) and both debut players played well. I can only imagine Leyton Orient were already relegated, when the match took place, or there would have been repercussions. Leyton Orient finished on 21 points and were relegated with Manchester City on 31 points (2 points for a win of course).

I remember it well. It felt like the beginning of the end of an era, and of course it was the beginning of another era. Both debut boys impressed.

 

[grafikhaus]

Are you sure that is even at United?

By a bizarre coincidence, I've been in the Crosspool Tavern this lunchtime and they've got that very picture framed and titled 'Sheffield United 1920-21'. According to the Denis Clarebrough book, our squad back then was:
Ball J, Beaumont P, Blackwell E, Bolam RC, Brelsford WH, Bromage G, Brown F, Cammack FJ, Cook W, Fazackerley SN, Furniss S, Gillespie W, Gough HC, Halliwell JC, Harrop J, Hoyland W, Johnson H, Kitchen JE, McCourt J, Mercer DW, Milton E, Naylor B, Oldacre P, Panting HH, Plant JE, Rawson AN, Sampy T, Savage H, Smith GR, Sturgess A, Thompson JL, Tunstall FE, Uttley J.

Silent, not sure if you've replied (197 pages is a lot to go through!) but are we getting close?

 

[Silent Blade]

By a bizarre coincidence, I've been in the Crosspool Tavern this lunchtime and they've got that very picture framed and titled 'Sheffield United 1920-21'. According to the Denis Clarebrough book, our squad back then was:
Ball J, Beaumont P, Blackwell E, Bolam RC, Brelsford WH, Bromage G, Brown F, Cammack FJ, Cook W, Fazackerley SN, Furniss S, Gillespie W, Gough HC, Halliwell JC, Harrop J, Hoyland W, Johnson H, Kitchen JE, McCourt J, Mercer DW, Milton E, Naylor B, Oldacre P, Panting HH, Plant JE, Rawson AN, Sampy T, Savage H, Smith GR, Sturgess A, Thompson JL, Tunstall FE, Uttley J.

Silent, not sure if you've replied (197 pages is a lot to go through!) but are we getting close?

This is what I posted

Back row; Bill Brelsford, Fred Tunstall, Ernest Milton,Bobby Hughes
Second row: George Waller (trainer), Ernest Blackwell, ?, Harold Pantling, ?, Jim McCourt, Percy Oldacre, Albert Sturgess Seth King, George Richardson, Harry Johnson snr (trainer)
Third row: Bill Sampy, David Lowe, Bert Menlove, Jimmy Waugh, Bill Cook, Billy Gillespie, ?, Walter Hoyland, ?, Jim Plant
Front row: Tommy Sampy, ?, David Mercer, Freddie Brown, Tommy Boyle, ?

We signed Bert Menlove in March 1922. 1922-23 was Bill Brelsford's and Albert Surgess' last season for us so the photo would have been taken in 1922

This is the photo and you have not included Bert Menlove who signed in 1922 so the photo you saw must be a different one

 

[bornablade]

A measure of Cec Coldwell's character was shown in the 1962/63 season. Every season he was virtually ever-present, 'Cec Coldwell Played 42'.

Towards the end of the 1962/63 season, although on course for yet another 'Played 42' and although he was fit to play, he allowed a certain Len Badger to make his league debut in a night match on Friday, 26th April 1962 against bottom club Leyton Orient. There were four matches to go in the season. Also in the same match, Graham Shaw allowed his brother Bernard to play at Left Back to make his debut. Graham too was ever-present in the league until that match.

United won 2-0 (Mick Jones, Barry Hartle) and both debut players played well. I can only imagine Leyton Orient were already relegated, when the match took place, or there would have been repercussions. Leyton Orient finished on 21 points and were relegated with Manchester City on 31 points (2 points for a win of course).

It was still a few years before Cec Coldwell and Graham Shaw made way on a permanent basis.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

It was still a few years before Cec Coldwell and Graham Shaw made way on a permanent basis.

True. As a kid it seemed that the famous back 6 had been around for ever, and the Orient match was an eye-opener that nothing lasts for ever. The image in my mind now is that there was the Coldwell, Shaw, etc. era, and then there was the Badger, Currie, Woodward, etc. era. It was more complicated than that, of course, but the 2 eras have a clear identity in my mind. It happens very differently now.

 

[bornablade]

True. As a kid it seemed that the famous back 6 had been around for ever, and the Orient match was an eye-opener that nothing lasts for ever. The image in my mind now is that there was the Coldwell, Shaw, etc. era, and then there was the Badger, Currie, Woodward, etc. era. It was more complicated than that, of course, but the 2 eras have a clear identity in my mind. It happens very differently now.

I think Graham Shaw was the first to step down. Hodgy would have been last as he was still playing in January 1971. Joe Shaw's testimonial I think was March 1965 and he made his 600th appearance (against West Ham?) about the same time. So he must have been ready to finish about that time. As far as Cec, Summers and Richardson are concerned I can't recall when they played their final games.

As you say it seems looking back so clearly defined but there were time lapses.

 

[LSF]

A measure of Cec Coldwell's character was shown in the 1962/63 season. Every season he was virtually ever-present, 'Cec Coldwell Played 42'.

Towards the end of the 1962/63 season, although on course for yet another 'Played 42' and although he was fit to play, he allowed a certain Len Badger to make his league debut in a night match on Friday, 26th April 1962 against bottom club Leyton Orient. There were four matches to go in the season. Also in the same match, Graham Shaw allowed his brother Bernard to play at Left Back to make his debut. Graham too was ever-present in the league until that match.

United won 2-0 (Mick Jones, Barry Hartle) and both debut players played well. I can only imagine Leyton Orient were already relegated, when the match took place, or there would have been repercussions. Leyton Orient finished on 21 points and were relegated with Manchester City on 31 points (2 points for a win of course).

I went to that game as a 9 year old and remember it vividly. My mum let me go alone for first time, imagine that today! 20 minute walk from our house to Lane and my abiding memory apart from Len & Bernard's debuts was Barry Hartle's goal. To my 9 year old eyes he received the ball hemmed in at the corner flag (Kop/terrace) and proceeded to dribble in and out of what appeared the whole Orient defence before slipping the ball under Mike Pinner.
For years I thought it was the greatest goal i'd ever see.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

I can't post these photos because they are copyrighted so I've linked the page instead, I stumbled across them looking for something else and I think the ones of High Street are fantastic. I don't think they've been posted yet. High Street.

 

[Silent Blade]

I think Graham Shaw was the first to step down. Hodgy would have been last as he was still playing in January 1971. Joe Shaw's testimonial I think was March 1965 and he made his 600th appearance (against West Ham?) about the same time. So he must have been ready to finish about that time. As far as Cec, Summers and Richardson are concerned I can't recall when they played their final games.

As you say it seems looking back so clearly defined but there were time lapses.

Hodgy's last 1st team match for us was in the 2-1 defeat at Bolton on 16th January 1971


Coldwell's was coming in as sub replacing Gil Reece who had broken his leg in the 1-1 draw at home to Blackpool on 12th November 1966. He played a full game in the previous week's 4-1 defeat at Sunderland (his 6th full successive league games despite playing in only 1 league match in the previous season).


Graham Shaw's was in the 4-3 home win against WBA in October 1st 1966 (he played in only two league matches in the previous season despite being an ever present in the 1964-65 season)


Richardson's was in the 3-0 home defeat against L**ds in April 24th 1965 (35 league apps that season)


Joe Shaw's was in the 4-0 defeat at West Ham in February 19th 1966 despite being an unused sub in the 1-1 home draw against L**ds the following week.


Summers' was in the 3-0 defeat at S6 in January 18th 1964 although he played in the 1-1 FA Cup home game against Swansea Town the following week.


The last time the six played together was the 1-1 home draw against Chelsea in 31st August 1963. Graham Shaw suffered an injury that was to keep him out of the team until the FA Cup replay 4-0 defeat at Swansea Town on 28th January.

The first time they played together was in the 2-0 home win against Bristol Rovers on 7th September 1957

 

[bornablade]

Hodgy's last 1st team match for us was in the 2-1 defeat at Bolton on 16th January 1971


Coldwell's was coming in as sub replacing Gil Reece who had broken his leg in the 1-1 draw at home to Blackpool on 12th November 1966. He played a full game in the previous week's 4-1 defeat at Sunderland (his 6th full successive league games despite playing in only 1 league match in the previous season).


Graham Shaw's was in the 4-3 home win against WBA in October 1st 1966 (he played in only two league matches in the previous season despite being an ever present in the 1964-65 season)


Richardson's was in the 3-0 home defeat against L**ds in April 24th 1965 (35 league apps that season)


Joe Shaw's was in the 4-0 defeat at West Ham in February 19th 1966 despite being an unused sub in the 1-1 home draw against L**ds the following week.


Summers' was in the 3-0 defeat at S6 in January 18th 1964 although he played in the 1-1 FA Cup home game against Swansea Town the following week.


The last time the six played together was the 1-1 home draw against Chelsea in 31st August 1963. Graham Shaw suffered an injury that was to keep him out of the team until the FA Cup replay 4-0 defeat at Swansea Town on 28th January.

The first time they played together was in the 2-0 home win against Bristol Rovers on 7th September 1957

All sorts of interesting facts there Silent. Firstly I don't think I ever saw Gerry Summers play if his last game was in January 1964. That's blown a personal myth that I saw that defence play together.

I remember the Leeds game where Brian Richardson played his final game. It was their first season in League One after gaining promotion. To say they were brutal is putting it mildly. Must admit they did well and truly turned us over. Think it was over the Easter holiday and we played at their place on the same weekend.

Six years (1957 - 1963) they were together which is quite remarkable.

There was a transition period after those guys finished and before we had a back four of Badger, Colquhoun, Flynn/Powell, Hemsley. John Harris used numerous players including Bernard Shaw, Frank Barlow, Reg Matthewson, Ken Mallender, David Munks. The mix wasn't quite right until he brought together those players that gave us promotion in 1971.

 

[EastonBlade]

Quite agree that this must be the best thread ever. For someone in their mid-sixties who hasn't lived permanently in Sheffield since 1980, it has brought back so many memories...

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Hodgy's last 1st team match for us was in the 2-1 defeat at Bolton on 16th January 1971


Coldwell's was coming in as sub replacing Gil Reece who had broken his leg in the 1-1 draw at home to Blackpool on 12th November 1966. He played a full game in the previous week's 4-1 defeat at Sunderland (his 6th full successive league games despite playing in only 1 league match in the previous season).


Graham Shaw's was in the 4-3 home win against WBA in October 1st 1966 (he played in only two league matches in the previous season despite being an ever present in the 1964-65 season)


Richardson's was in the 3-0 home defeat against L**ds in April 24th 1965 (35 league apps that season)


Joe Shaw's was in the 4-0 defeat at West Ham in February 19th 1966 despite being an unused sub in the 1-1 home draw against L**ds the following week.


Summers' was in the 3-0 defeat at S6 in January 18th 1964 although he played in the 1-1 FA Cup home game against Swansea Town the following week.


The last time the six played together was the 1-1 home draw against Chelsea in 31st August 1963. Graham Shaw suffered an injury that was to keep him out of the team until the FA Cup replay 4-0 defeat at Swansea Town on 28th January.

The first time they played together was in the 2-0 home win against Bristol Rovers on 7th September 1957

Thanks for all that info. It is hard to believe that the back 6 only played as a unit for 6 years - such was the stability that it felt as if they had been there for ever.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

John Tudor jumping up. Who are we playing here? Is it Huddersfield?

 

[Silent Blade]

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John Tudor jumping up. Who are we playing here? Is it Huddersfield?

Yes 0-0 draw in August 1969. Trevor Cherry and Roy Ellam are the Huddersfield players

 

[bornablade]

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John Tudor jumping up. Who are we playing here? Is it Huddersfield?

I'll go for Huddersfield Town on August 23rd 1969. Attendance 22528.

Gil Reece broke his nose.

Brian Stanley in one of the Sunday's wrote ' A spectator left the ground at half time to switch off his car engine and he must have wasted quite a bit of petrol. But it was nothing compared to all the gas United used on their road to nowhere.'

Blades sat second in the (old) league division one table. Season ended disappointingly.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Yes 0-0 draw in August 1969. Trevor Cherry and Roy Ellam are the Huddersfield players

I didn't realise Cherry used to play for Huddersfield. Always remember him from his time at L**ds.

 

[bornablade]

I didn't realise Cherry used to play for Huddersfield. Always remember him from his time at L**ds.

Trevor Cherry and Roy Ellam played for Leeds. Not sure if they were signed at the same time.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Coldwell's was coming in as sub replacing Gil Reece who had broken his leg in the 1-1 draw at home to Blackpool on 12th November 1966. He played a full game in the previous week's 4-1 defeat at Sunderland (his 6th full successive league games despite playing in only 1 league match in the previous season).

What I remember vividly about that game was the crack that resonated around the ground when Reece's leg went. Everyone heard it and I've never known the ground go so quiet, even quieter than Adkin's season. Little known fact - the perpetrator was Emlyn Hughes, then Blackpool's fullback.

 

[Silent Blade]

Trevor Cherry and Roy Ellam played for Leeds. Not sure if they were signed at the same time.

Yes after Huddersfield were relegated from the old first division in 1972

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

What I remember vividly about that game was the crack that resonated around the ground when Reece's leg went. Everyone heard it and I've never known the ground go so quiet, even quieter than Adkin's season. Little known fact - the perpetrator was Emlyn Hughes, then Blackpool's fullback.

Yes it was like a rifle shot. However, I think it was in a tackle with Jimmy Armfield; a fair tackle at that.

 

[Silent Blade]

What I remember vividly about that game was the crack that resonated around the ground when Reece's leg went. Everyone heard it and I've never known the ground go so quiet, even quieter than Adkin's season. Little known fact - the perpetrator was Emlyn Hughes, then Blackpool's fullback.

Yes it was like a rifle shot. However, I think it was in a tackle with Jimmy Armfield; a fair tackle at that.

LSF thinks it was Tommy Thompson

Yep, remember the tackle vividly, think it was full back named Tommy Thompson who was perpetrator.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Yes it was like a rifle shot. However, I think it was in a tackle with Jimmy Armfield; a fair tackle at that.

That was in the days before teams had "squads" so United had to draft in a replacement. Bring on Bill Punton, £10k from Norwich? reserves. When he first played he resembled my grandad and it was the one (and only) time I questioned Harris' sanity. Until Bill stuffed the pigs, that is.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Houses being demolished on Bramall Lane

 

[HighfieldBlade]

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

LSF thinks it was Tommy Thompson

You are our respected Oracle. What do you think ?