Note of caution on Bruce

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Before we go high-fiving too much on the fun and games in S6, there is one note of caution.

Bruce is an English manager. He's more likely to sign English based players he knows than some foreign import.

He's just spent 6 months in the Championship.

Newcastle had just sold Perez for 30m.

It wouldn't be a huge leap to suggest he may well consider McBurnie or Maupay as decent acquisitions for his new club, if the move comes about.

I do hope we can get one of these over the line, if not both before such a move takes place.

Newcastle will not spend huge, so someone within the 10-20m range when you've offloaded for 30m would seem to be a common sense type move.

Let's wait and see but there could be an impact to us. Same with if Maxi Lopez' deal to West Ham falls through.

I'll be glad when the striker deals are done. But let's not think the football merry go round won't impact us.

For them lot, it might work out. Get decent compensation which takes you out of embargo. Appoint a decent manager who is unattached and start again. It's not as if the team has Bruce's name all over it. He's signed one German centre back and the lad from Wolves. That's all.

Hughton, Karanka (did well at Boro), Monk (well received by Brum fans), Pullis (had a decent career really), Adkins (I know! But did ok at Hull), O'Neill (not given time at Forest but done well before), Keane (did ok at Sunderland) all available. Each have had recent periods of doing ok at Champ level. It might turn out ok for them despite the short term stress.

Lose Bruce, pocket some cash, come out of embargo, get decent new manager, see Bruce snap up Blades targets.

The show would be on the other foot a little then.

Of course if we announce Maupay by the weekend then be as smug as you like!
 
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Before we go high-fiving too much on the fun and games in S6, there is one note of caution.

Bruce is an English manager. He's more likely to sign English based players he knows than some foreign import.

He's just spent 6 months in the Championship.

Newcastle had just sold Perez for 30m.

It wouldn't be a huge leap to suggest he may well consider McBurnie or Maupay as decent acquisitions for his new club, if the move comes about.

I do hope we can get one of these over the line, if not both before such a move takes place.

Newcastle will not spend huge, so someone within the 10-20m range when you've offloaded for 30m would seem to be a common sense type move.

Let's wait and see but there could be an impact to us. Same with if Maxi Lopez' deal to West Ham falls through.

I'll be glad when the striker deals are done. But let's not think the football merry go round won't impact us.

For them lot, it might work out. Get decent compensation which takes you out of embargo. Appoint a decent manager who is unattached and start again. It's not as if the team has Bruce's name all over it. He's signed one German centre back and the lad from Wolves. That's all.

Hughton, Karanka (did well at Boro), Monk (well received by Brum fans), Pullis (had a decent career really), Adkins (I know! But did ok at Hull), O'Neill (not given time at Forest but done well before), Keane (did ok at Sunderland) all available. Each have had recent periods of doing ok at Champ level. It might turn out ok for them despite the short term stress.

Lose Bruce, pocket some cash, come out of embargo, get decent new manager, see Bruce snap up Blades targets.

The show would be on the other foot a little then.

Of course if we announce Maupay by the weekend then be as smug as you like!
He’ll not be taking many from his current club that’s for sure.
 
Compensation they'll receive won't make a dent if he goes.

He's on a couple of mill a year on a 1 year rolling deal. If he'd just signed a 5 year deal or summat maybe it would. Lumphead was worth £4m and he had a long-term deal.

Also, didn't Chansiri say they were over FFP limits by 8 figures last season? £10m + for Bruce? Doubt it.
 
Newcastle have a budget of abouit 10p. Thats what the dispute was about Benitez leaving. Why would someone who wants to sell the club who is a complete dick want to reinvest in the club?

Also its widely noted that anyone managing Newcastle has no say in transfers.

Newcastle aren't a threat, and will be in the relegation mix this season. 6 pointer.
 
I don't want Brucie Baby to leave Wendy, purely on the basis that i think he is shit.

He's milking the clowns for £2m a year (now that he decided to turn up after the cricket finished) whilst he will do fuk all for them. This is the cabbage that had Villa struggling despite a huge wage bill of about 70m a year. Leave him where he is.

It will be all the more funnier when they realise next season that he is actually an inept manager and they start to turn against their current golden boy. It will really hurt them to have another false dawn.
 
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I agree that I doubt he will do a good job for whichever club he managers. It is however just the thought of the supporters of the “massive” realising that they are not so massive and all their expectations will be expected to fall away again
 
I’m not going out today, I’m worried I might trip over a dog and fall head first into a wheelbarrow which might roll down a hill, hit a kerb and launch me into a tree where I’ll get a wasps nest stuck on my head. This might lead to me walking blindly into several garden rakes, causing a great deal of pain and hilarity.

No, no I think I’ll stay in.
 
Hughton, Karanka (did well at Boro), Monk (well received by Brum fans), Pullis (had a decent career really), Adkins (I know! But did ok at Hull), O'Neill (not given time at Forest but done well before), Keane (did ok at Sunderland) all available. Each have had recent periods of doing ok at Champ level. It might turn out ok for them despite the short term stress.

Hughton was in the right place at the right time with Brighton. The rest? All utter crap. If a manager stays around long enough, he's almost bound to hit a purple patch which often translates into 'did OK', while the rest of his managerial career is average to garbage (see McCarthy, Mick) and some of these blokes have had plently of money to spend.

It mystifies me how some of these old-stagers keep staggering from one job to the next. The future is young(ish), technically proficient, usually German (Klopp, Farke, Wagner, Stendel etc.) guys. Some will work, some will struggle - Solskjær, Lampard etc. - but this obsession with decent-ish ex-player who've 'got their badges' is lunacy.


Lose Bruce, pocket some cash, come out of embargo, get decent new manager, see Bruce snap up Blades targets.

The show would be on the other foot a little then.

So the £1-2m the pigs might get for Brucie suddenly allows them to compete in the Maupay/McBurnie market?
 
The problem Newcastle also have is the expectations and pressure put on the club by the fans. I'm not saying they wouldn't go for the same targets as us under Bruce but they're more likely to go for the Sturridge, Hernandez type 'bigger' names to appease the fans.
 



Bruce asked chansiri for permission to speak to Newcastle
Mmmmmmmassive?
 
I think the OP is suggesting that Newcastle May have some money to spend and may be in the same pond as us.
 
Apparently , according to Fat Sam , Ashley contacted his agent regarding the Newcastle job a few weeks ago as Benitez was leaving .

Imagine us having to endure Megson as Manager to , sacking him , and then offering him the job again a few years later. I think this summarises the disregard Ashley has for fans of his club.

They are in a pickle, no doubt.
 
SB's Agent - Steve, do you want this job at SWFC? It's 2million a year, there's not much chance they'll go down and you basically have to keep them up for the last half of the season.

SB - Aye.

SB's Agent - Steve, do you want this job at NUFC? It's likely to be significantly more than 2million a year and you basically have to keep them up this season. No-one will blame you if they go down though as it'll be the chairman's lack of investment.

SB - Why-Aye.
 
i agree with the premise, but in reality a premier league team (excluding us) buying English players seems a bit far fetched they only interested in foreigners
 
Before we go high-fiving too much on the fun and games in S6, there is one note of caution.

Bruce is an English manager. He's more likely to sign English based players he knows than some foreign import.

He's just spent 6 months in the Championship.

Newcastle had just sold Perez for 30m.

It wouldn't be a huge leap to suggest he may well consider McBurnie or Maupay as decent acquisitions for his new club, if the move comes about.

I do hope we can get one of these over the line, if not both before such a move takes place.

Newcastle will not spend huge, so someone within the 10-20m range when you've offloaded for 30m would seem to be a common sense type move.

Let's wait and see but there could be an impact to us. Same with if Maxi Lopez' deal to West Ham falls through.

I'll be glad when the striker deals are done. But let's not think the football merry go round won't impact us.

For them lot, it might work out. Get decent compensation which takes you out of embargo. Appoint a decent manager who is unattached and start again. It's not as if the team has Bruce's name all over it. He's signed one German centre back and the lad from Wolves. That's all.

Hughton, Karanka (did well at Boro), Monk (well received by Brum fans), Pullis (had a decent career really), Adkins (I know! But did ok at Hull), O'Neill (not given time at Forest but done well before), Keane (did ok at Sunderland) all available. Each have had recent periods of doing ok at Champ level. It might turn out ok for them despite the short term stress.

Lose Bruce, pocket some cash, come out of embargo, get decent new manager, see Bruce snap up Blades targets.

The show would be on the other foot a little then.

Of course if we announce Maupay by the weekend then be as smug as you like!

I have exactly the same feeling as you, but couldn't express it as eloquently! Bruce has never done anything without money, let him drift along at the pigs picking up his 40k a week and stringing the fans along. As you say, if he goes to Newcastle it could affect our transfer targets, and give the pigs a much needed cash injection at the same time.

The best that can come out of this is that it fucks up the pigs' preseason preparations
 
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Hughton was in the right place at the right time with Brighton. The rest? All utter crap. If a manager stays around long enough, he's almost bound to hit a purple patch which often translates into 'did OK', while the rest of his managerial career is average to garbage (see McCarthy, Mick) and some of these blokes have had plently of money to spend.

It mystifies me how some of these old-stagers keep staggering from one job to the next. The future is young(ish), technically proficient, usually German (Klopp, Farke, Wagner, Stendel etc.) guys. Some will work, some will struggle - Solskjær, Lampard etc. - but this obsession with decent-ish ex-player who've 'got their badges' is lunacy.




So the £1-2m the pigs might get for Brucie suddenly allows them to compete in the Maupay/McBurnie market?
You misunderstood that last bit. Bruce would be at Newcastle then and may have interest in Maupay/McBurnie which would give a certain amount of schadenfreude to our neighbours.
 
Well it looks as though they’re all trying emulate what we’ve got with our Chrissie. English manager, local boy, ties to the club etc etc. Well in choosing Dean Smith, Lampard and now Mrs Doubtfire at Newcastle. These clubs have forgot to factor in the genius of Chris Wilder. It gives me great encouragement that there are already 3 worst managers than CW in the Premier league before a ball is even kicked.
 



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