Not much point in getting a season ticket.

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If there are 11,000 season tickets for say 16 home games then logic suggests they will be put on sale based on loyalty points order. Not everyone eligible will purchase them. Some because they are concerned about their health. Others because of their health, those who don't want to sit in a ground only 1/3rd full and those who are unhappy that they're not getting a full 19 home games. Then there will be those who will not go because they are not in their own seat or in some cases the same stand. In short there are likely to be more available than some are suggesting.

If this happens the Clubs time and resources will be devoted to implementing Covid 19 safety rules to get grounds ready for fans returning. One of the biggest challenges is likely to be allocating the seats that will be used and cordoning off those that won't. It seems highly unlikely they will add to their burden by developing convoluted systems to organise ballots of tickets or part season tickets to enable more than 11k fans to see some form of football during the season.

The Club are losing revenue so going with tried and tested methods on ticketing to get money in asap and minimising the volume of queries/ complaints would seem to be the most sensible approach.
 
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Webding said:
As with the start of lockdown, everyone’s missing the point. Regardless of whether you think you’ll be alright (and how can you know?), if you have friends, family or colleagues in an at-risk group, going to games is a risk you’re taking with someone else’s life.
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There’s plenty of clues that prove the threat is massively exaggerated....
although I accept that even if the threat is only 0.00001%....that’s no consolation if a loved one dies.

There’s always a risk to life every time you leave the house to attend a game. Life is a risk.

The police have never worn masks or practiced social distancing...no deaths.
Children of school age and under don’t practice social distancing......2 virus related deaths in the UK.
Cars kill many more kids each year...but where’s the ban on cars?
10,000’s marching/ protesting in the UK several weeks ago....no spikes and no death increase.

There are contradictions everywhere.....suggesting governments are making it up (reacting) as they go along.
Airline companies given permission to NOT use social distancing inside the planes....every seat can be used.
So everyone must practice social distancing at the airports but then you don’t need to once you’re inside a plane.
Masks need to be worn whilst visiting shops but the staff that work in the shops don’t need to wear masks.

Regards season ticket renewals....don’t think a decision can be made until people know the distrubution plan and arrangements.
I intend to buy one.....just to ensure there’s no break in my time as a ST holder....although I’ve no patience for long queues.
 
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Deadbat said:
You literally said 'anyone' who did not want to renew needs to grow up. That is clearly not the case as I pointed out.

It is not as simple as many are making out - there are lots of reasons why people won't go to football or to other events where lots of people will attend whether it be their health, families health, own feelings/anxieties and also financial - some may see spending money (could be £200+) for 50% of the game and not guarantee which games you may see- especially if they have been made redundant or struggling as so many are in lockdown.

I just think it was quite disrespectful to say everyone who does not want to renew needs to grow up when you don't know everyones circumstances. I would renew and so would you but some won't for reasons mentioned and I would not criticise them as peoples situations are different.

To be honest the way they do it means it will be probably wont be a 'season' ticket but more a bundle of games (7 or 8) and the reality is also people will have to sit where told (so wont be in same seats and wont have same groups of people around them).
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Tldr. It’s not that deep mate.
 
Sheffsteel said:
There’s plenty of clues that prove the threat is massively exaggerated....
although I accept that even if the threat is only 0.00001%....that’s no consolation if a loved one dies.

There’s a risk to life every time you’ve been a game over the decades.
Leaving the house there’s a risk to life.....staying in the house there’s a risk to life.

The police have never worn masks or practiced social distancing...no deaths.
Children of school age and under don’t practice social distancing......2 virus related deaths in the UK.
Cars kill many more kids each year...but where’s the ban on cars?
10,000’s marching/ protesting in the UK several weeks ago....no spikes and no death increase.

There are contradictions everywhere.....suggesting governments are making it up (reacting) as they go along.
Airline companies given permission to NOT use social distancing inside the planes.
So everyone must practice social distancing at the airports but then you don’t need to once you’re inside a plane.
Masks need to be worn whilst visiting shops but the staff that work in the shops don’t need to wear masks.
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Like with anything, it’s a moving target and you just have to trust what the experts say to the best of their current knowledge at a given time. Actual experts I mean, not just people who’ve read stuff on the internet.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Another issue is the match experience going to an almost empty stadium with no away fans.

Will the bars and toilets be open?
If they are open then service will be severely restricted meaning massive queues.
It might be a total nightmare using the kiosks and/ or toilets.
It might be a total nightmare entering and exiting the ground....with slow and long queues everywhere.
Attending matches next season might be a really negative experience....just not the same.
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I'll risk it.
 
I believe that all season ticket holders will have the option to renew, the club have already told us this in the communications they have sent us. This renewal will include the discount for the four games we missed from the current season so it will mean paying approximately 3/4 what you paid for this season.

You probably won’t get to see every game though and come the end of next season something similar will apply where you can roll forward another discount to the 21/22 season. However, due to us all renewing it will provide the club with much needed income and is effectively a short term loan from each of us, I’m fine with this.

I would also add that even if you don’t think you will attend any games next season due to isolating, I still think it would be to your long term advantage to retain your season ticket holder status. You may never get the option to buy another one, and if you did it would be at a premium.
 
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Webding said:
Like with anything, it’s a moving target and you just have to trust what the experts say to the best of their current knowledge at a given time. Actual experts I mean, not just people who’ve read stuff on the internet.
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How's that half a million dead projection going on?
 
oohaah said:
If you choose not to renew then you have no guarantee to get a season ticket once this is all over, and if you did it would be at a much higher cost.
You may never get the option to buy another one.
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This sums it up for me.

I accept that I might not attend many matches next season and those that I do attend might be a negative experience and a bit of a farce.
However as stated....demand will likely outstrip supply regards watching SU over the next few years.
The best way to regularly watch the best SU team in decades is to possess a season ticket....hence I’ll be renewing.
 
Sheffsteel said:
There’s plenty of clues that prove the threat is massively exaggerated....
although I accept that even if the threat is only 0.00001%....that’s no consolation if a loved one dies.

There’s always a risk to life every time you leave the house to attend a game. Life is a risk.

The police have never worn masks or practiced social distancing...no deaths.
Children of school age and under don’t practice social distancing......2 virus related deaths in the UK.
Cars kill many more kids each year...but where’s the ban on cars?
10,000’s marching/ protesting in the UK several weeks ago....no spikes and no death increase.

There are contradictions everywhere.....suggesting governments are making it up (reacting) as they go along.
Airline companies given permission to NOT use social distancing inside the planes....every seat can be used.
So everyone must practice social distancing at the airports but then you don’t need to once you’re inside a plane.
Masks need to be worn whilst visiting shops but the staff that work in the shops don’t need to wear masks.

Regards season ticket renewals....don’t think a decision can be made until people know the distrubution plan and arrangements.
I intend to buy one.....just to ensure there’s no break in my time as a ST holder....although I’ve no patience for long queues.
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That is not accurate there have been deaths albeit small in number.
 
Webding said:
As with the start of lockdown, everyone’s missing the point. Regardless of whether you think you’ll be alright (and how can you know?), if you have friends, family or colleagues in an at-risk group, going to games is a risk you’re taking with someone else’s life.
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Who decides that? You’ll be able to attend when the scientists decide it’s safe to do so.

If people want to write their own rules, they can follow them themselves.
 
Sheffsteel said:
There’s plenty of clues that prove the threat is massively exaggerated....
although I accept that even if the threat is only 0.00001%....that’s no consolation if a loved one dies.

There’s always a risk to life every time you leave the house to attend a game. Life is a risk.

The police have never worn masks or practiced social distancing...no deaths.
Children of school age and under don’t practice social distancing......2 virus related deaths in the UK.
Cars kill many more kids each year...but where’s the ban on cars?
10,000’s marching/ protesting in the UK several weeks ago....no spikes and no death increase.

There are contradictions everywhere.....suggesting governments are making it up (reacting) as they go along.
Airline companies given permission to NOT use social distancing inside the planes....every seat can be used.
So everyone must practice social distancing at the airports but then you don’t need to once you’re inside a plane.
Masks need to be worn whilst visiting shops but the staff that work in the shops don’t need to wear masks.

Regards season ticket renewals....don’t think a decision can be made until people know the distrubution plan and arrangements.
I intend to buy one.....just to ensure there’s no break in my time as a ST holder....although I’ve no patience for long queues.
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The reason there hasn’t been any spikes in corona is cause the entire country was on lockdown for 2 months so there is only a tiny ammount of the virus to spread

Feel free not to social distance and to say masks are pointless but don’t complain when the country goes back into lockdown if no-one follows social distancing (like America ATM)
 
Addison said:
That is not accurate there have been deaths albeit small in number.
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Fair enough.... but the death rate amongst the police should be through the roof.
The NHS staff eventually worn masks and protective gear and there’s been so much media attention about the high number of deaths.
So we have the slogan “protect the NHS”.

Where as the police are also on the front line....but weirdly have no protective gear and don’t need to practice social distancing
but there’s no media attention about police deaths and how we need to protect or show appreciation towards the police.
 

Deadbat said:
I would be able to go to every game if it was done like that but not sure I agree with the same 11,000 with most loyality points getting to go to every week. It would be fairer if it was rotated round - no issues missing some games at all. Those (like me) have had their fill of going to all the away games last few years and home tickets should be done differently.

It is not going to be anywhere near like it used to be. Just hope come the season after next we are somewhere close to normal for crowds etc.
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I totally agree. With my loyalty points I wouldn't have a problem but I think we need some fairness this coming season. The only thing I would ask is that season-ticket holders shouldn't lose their seats in the future - if they renew of course
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
The reason there hasn’t been any spikes in corona is cause the entire country was on lockdown for 2 months so there is only a tiny ammount of the virus to spread

Feel free not to social distance and to say masks are pointless but don’t complain when the country goes back into lockdown if no-one follows social distancing (like America ATM)
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They‘s unlikely to be any national lock down. If the virus was so contagious like they say...,then surely half the population have already had it or have it?
But then if so many millions have it it had it...the death rate is so low that it‘s threst level is low.
So there’s a contradiction right there. It’s impossible that a virus can be both contagious and so deadly....if the death figures are so low (relatively speaking).

To be honest it’s an argument that can’t be won either way because people have different thresholds regards whats acceptable, success or failure.
It‘s an emotive subject...even though there are 65 million in the UK......if 50,000 (majority already close to death) die from a virus ...then it‘s still a tragedy.
It’s difficult to convey context or nuances of communication via a written forum.....making it difficult to discuss via a forum.
I remember the Ched Evans case.....I choose my words carefully about Ched’s potential innocence and I received the odd vile abusive reaction.
They’d read my words and made big assumptions......it’s the same with the Black Lives Matter discussions.
 
Club have already announced there will be refunds this season, and next season will be pro rata on how many games can be attended.
Whether 1/3 , or 40% can go, or everybody from January, the club has clearly demonstrated their commitment to a fair system.
It's a nonsense concern.
 
Sheffsteel said:
They‘s unlikely to be any national lock down. If the virus was so contagious like they say...,then surely half the population have already had it or have it?
But then if so many millions have it it had it...the death rate is so low that it‘s threst level is low.
So there’s a contradiction right there. It’s impossible that a virus can be both contagious and so deadly....if the death figures are so low (relatively speaking).

To be honest it’s an argument that can’t be won either way because people have different thresholds regards whats acceptable, success or failure.
It‘s an emotive subject...even though there are 65 million in the UK......if 50,000 (majority already close to death) die from a virus ...then it‘s still a tragedy.
It’s difficult to convey context or nuances of communication via a written forum.....making it difficult to discuss via a forum.
I remember the Ched Evans case.....I choose my words carefully about Ched’s potential innocence and I received the odd vile abusive reaction.
They’d read my words and made big assumptions......it’s the same with the Black Lives Matter discussions.
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I declared I’d be going to the pub as soon as they were open and the government allowed it, and within a few replies I was being likened to Adolf Hitler! 😂
 
I think an beefier membership is more likely than a season ticket renewal, keeps your streak and your seat so whenever full capacity is back you haven't lost out, but if they offer "season tickets" there'll be cretins moaning that 'they've bought a season ticket so it's only reyt I go to all the games, sort it aaaat yoonited'.

I for one look forward to real people in the ground, even if I never won a ballot (if that's how they do it).

Hopefully everyone is safe, but as above somewhere, I trust the Premier League more than the Government with Covid to be honest.
 
derfblade.3 said:
Stand out a mile don't they?

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Maybe, but also you must have known your post would encourage that kind of reaction when you weren't renewing solely because the number of games are likely to be reduced? It read like a flounce, and in fairness to you you've doubled down on it with that one too.

One more serious point that you may want to consider is that the season runs 9 months, and the likelihood of the restrictions being the same in March as they are in September are pretty low. If you've not got your Season ticket and they up it to 50% by November, or everyone back in February you'll probably have missed the boat.
 
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s4-blade said:
Tldr. It’s not that deep mate.
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Ok not deep at all. I must have missed 50,000 UK deaths and the huge spike in unemployment statistics along with issues with mental health, domestic violence that have come out of the biggest thing that has happened to the World in most of our lifetimes?

As long as you buy a season ticket though no matter what. If you don't you need to grow up - are you not a proper Blade if you don't regardless of the myriad of circumstances that may have befell Blades/people all over the world? Bigger things in life I am afraid. People will make choices based on their own/family circumstances.
 
The club should be selling em and we should be buying em.

Let the club decide who gets in and give the rest a match credit on the 21/22 season ticket.

Any one commenting on limited numbers being a negative experience, I understand your concerns but its us, not the club who make the match day atmosphere.

The Blackburn, Sunderland and AFC Fylde games all had less than 11000 in the ground and the atmosphere was dire for all three (apart from the Sunderland fans), the first lines of GCBS mumbled then falling away to nothing and trying to get the South Standers to do anything but polite applause was an exercise in futility.

So if you don’t want a negative experience, make sure you don’t have one.

BladeByChoice said:
With it being likely that next seasons start will be delayed and ‘behind closed doors’ football still in force, I’ve been thinking about next seasons, season ticket.

I would be happy for the club to take my money now and do what they can with it to prepare for the next campaign, they can always give me a ticket account credit for any matches I can’t attend.
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Deadbat said:
Ok not deep at all. I must have missed 50,000 UK deaths and the huge spike in unemployment statistics along with issues with mental health, domestic violence that have come out of the biggest thing that has happened to the World in most of our lifetimes?

As long as you buy a season ticket though no matter what. If you don't you need to grow up - are you not a proper Blade if you don't regardless of the myriad of circumstances that may have befell Blades/people all over the world? Bigger things in life I am afraid. People will make choices based on their own/family circumstances.
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