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We lost, I thought we'd lose, I thought we'd only lose by one. I missed the whole match as I was playing sport myself and I just shrugged my shoulders to know we'd lost 1 - 0. I couldn't have watched it anyway from my Now TV package as we're never on Sky these days, other than on box office last week. Thank you Premier League but with these fixture it just feels like its a blessing not to watch.

Chelsea next - yay! And national lockdown. What a great year this is.
 



I get that, but at the same time it doesn't factor in the sheer unlucky fact of bad decisions going against us. We haven't been as consistent as before because we haven't had loads of injuries and new players to bed in with a crap pre season.

There isn't much Wilder can do other than to change the formation, maybe we would be suited better playing one up top, but we have to give Wilder time and trust that he will do what is needed. He turned us round from bottom of league 1, nothing about his time here has given me any reason to doubt he doesn't know what needs to be done.

I understand the need to give him time and I’m certainly not advocating a knee-jerk sacking, but our form since the end of last season is more than a little worrisome, bad luck notwithstanding. (I would say, however, it was a case of us being lucky last season, as much as being unlucky this. How many teams go through a full season with barely any injuries like we did last year? We’ve got one or two this season and we look like a second tier team. We should have a squad that can cope with this.) What I don’t want is us to sleepwalk towards the half way mark with no more than a couple of points and a handful of goals on the board.

What Wilder has achieved for us has been unreal and I’ve loved it, but it’s in the past now and he isn’t as bulletproof for me as he is for some. He certainly doesn’t have free reign to take us down and stay on like some are suggesting. Not unless there’s some real, tangible improvement in the way we’re playing. Unfortunately he currently looks stubborn and devoid of any ideas other than his “tried and tested” system.

If we still look like going down without a fight around January time, he can go. If we’ve improved and we’re making a fist of it, he stays. A lot will also hinge on his performance in the transfer window. An area he’s been lacking in since our promotion.
 
CW has previously mentioned that he doesn't go on football forums etc (not sure that I believe him tbh). He could do a lot worse though than to come on here and read some of the reaction and comments. There seems to be an overwhelming common theme about what the problems are.

Maybe just maybe, the number of people on here who have all been watching football for many a year, might just be able to see with their own eyes the bleedin obvious (quicker attacking tempo and getting crosses in earlier) which would help us win matches.

If the vast majority on here are all saying the same thing, maybe we have a point?
Great point. Wisdom of crowds and all that
 
I understand the need to give him time and I’m certainly not advocating a knee-jerk sacking, but our form since the end of last season is more than a little worrisome, bad luck notwithstanding. (I would say, however, it was a case of us being lucky last season, as much as being unlucky this. How many teams go through a full season with barely any injuries like we did last year? We’ve got one or two this season and we look like a second tier team. We should have a squad that can cope with this.) What I don’t want is us to sleepwalk towards the half way mark with no more than a couple of points and a handful of goals on the board.

What Wilder has achieved for us has been unreal and I’ve loved it, but it’s in the past now and he isn’t as bulletproof for me as he is for some. He certainly doesn’t have free reign to take us down and stay on like some are suggesting. Not unless there’s some real, tangible improvement in the way we’re playing. Unfortunately he currently looks stubborn and devoid of any ideas other than his “tried and tested” system.

If we still look like going down without a fight around January time, he can go. If we’ve improved and we’re making a fist of it, he stays. A lot will also hinge on his performance in the transfer window. An area he’s been lacking in since our promotion.
Can’t disagree with any of that
 
I understand the need to give him time and I’m certainly not advocating a knee-jerk sacking, but our form since the end of last season is more than a little worrisome, bad luck notwithstanding. (I would say, however, it was a case of us being lucky last season, as much as being unlucky this. How many teams go through a full season with barely any injuries like we did last year? We’ve got one or two this season and we look like a second tier team. We should have a squad that can cope with this.) What I don’t want is us to sleepwalk towards the half way mark with no more than a couple of points and a handful of goals on the board.

What Wilder has achieved for us has been unreal and I’ve loved it, but it’s in the past now and he isn’t as bulletproof for me as he is for some. He certainly doesn’t have free reign to take us down and stay on like some are suggesting. Not unless there’s some real, tangible improvement in the way we’re playing. Unfortunately he currently looks stubborn and devoid of any ideas other than his “tried and tested” system.

If we still look like going down without a fight around January time, he can go. If we’ve improved and we’re making a fist of it, he stays. A lot will also hinge on his performance in the transfer window. An area he’s been lacking in since our promotion.


Alot will depend on how PA views his performance in the league and opinion on his transfer dealings.
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A huge difference exists between our scouting and recruitment network and the rest of clubs in the PL and even the majority of the Championship.

Chris knows this and has mentioned our need to "catch up"

At the moment are we getting value for money in our transfer dealings?

Would the Prince be reluctant to hand over more £ without be sure that A that the player would improve the first team and B the signing is value for money.
 
Alot will depend on how PA views his performance in the league and opinion on his transfer dealings.
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A huge difference exists between our scouting and recruitment network and the rest of clubs in the PL and even the majority of the Championship.

Chris knows this and has mentioned our need to "catch up"

At the moment are we getting value for money in our transfer dealings?

Would the Prince be reluctant to hand over more £ without be sure that A that the player would improve the first team and B the signing is value for money.

Please don't take this as me suggesting CW should be worried about his job however we now have 1 point from the last 30 available and that will probably be 1 from 33 by the end of the next game week.

He also can't claim he hasn't been backed in the transfer market either. He's given the budget and chooses how it's spent. Today our 2 starting strikers cost £40m between them and they didn't get a sniff down to us having no creativity at all. A problem we had all last year and one which hasn't been addressed.

I totally get his view on squad harmony re wages and having the "right characters" in the dressing room but this will have to change IMO as it's now holding us back as it looks to me that we're spending more money on fees just to get players that fit into our wage structure rather than the other way around. Players aren't stupid. I'm quite sure they won't mind other players coming in on more money than them as long as said player is worth it.

Not sure what the answer is but there are some worrying signs at the moment.
 
Results are frustrating because we’re not getting hammered we’re narrowly losing but today defence did alright Ramsdale’s best game midfield, strikers worked hard but in my opinion Osborn needs to improve his distribution and not give it away cheaply Baldock’s crossing needs to be a bit more clinical and we need to be a bit more assertive in final 3rd it’s too predictable at times but Man City are really good need to pick up points in Nov/Dec then hopefully be in a better place by xmas UTB
 
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Bit worrying when he spends £100m and says we can’t go toe-to-toe with the likes of Citteh, we could at least try. Same result nil points but we tried.
He keeps bringing up the basketball analogy. But I’m thinking now it would be nice to see the lads go toe to toe with these teams......even if we get a tonking from time to time.
To adapt a well used Chris Wilder quote for our current predicament. We are currently on course to skulk out of the Premier league via the back door.
 



We are playing boring, negative football and bar a draw at home to bottom placed Fulham we have lost every game. We try to sit back and keep games tight but we are not capable of doing so. We are painfully slow going forward and overdo pointless backwards and sideways passes. It’s blatantly obvious it’s not working but Wilder persists with this dreadful approach, continually changing the team but playing the same way.

What has happened to the Blades that set the PL alight at the start of last season? It can’t just be blamed on 2 or 3 injuries.

The drop in our quality is unbelievable.
 
Wilder has had an unbelievable run of getting things right...but he has lost his midas touch, at least for the short term... In the last few months he has;

  • Made strange decisions in the transfer window, choosing not to strengthen creativity, add genuine quality to the first 11 or to replace JOC, who he knew was injured back in April/May. The improvement on Baldock doesnt even make the bench. Wilder then called it our best transfer window ever...yeah OK, Chris.
  • Seemingly not developed an alternative way to play in the absence of JOC (when it's been clear since last season Jack Robinson couldnt add the attacking element JOC gave us)
  • Played too much hoofball.
  • Gone far too pedestrian and if our wingbacks play isnt happening, we have no creative option from the centre
  • Taken a Warnock approach of setting up to take a point, rather than the attacking approach that got us where we are (acting in contrary to what he preached about not sitting on our own crossbar while in this league).
  • Constantly moaned about money and budgets in practically every interview
  • Refused to play the number 10 role at times when we have really needed to take the game to the opposition (vs Fulham for example)

Wilder is a quality manager, and they usually learn from their mistakes and correct things...usually.....and he has time (we are only seven games in). BUT he has to sort it out sooner, rather than later - if we end up adrift, it will be very hard to claw back. We do seem to be displaying the worrying ingredients of a relegation haunted side right now (playing OK but losing, not creating, not scoring, key players out injured, constantly changing first 11) which is worrying.

I just wonder if a fresh pair of eyes/voice is needed within his coaching staff? A new perspective from someone who will say, look Chris this isnt working, lets try it this way etc.

Ps. There are absolutely other factors which have also contributed to our dismal run - injuries, bad decisions from refs, individual players making bad decisions, a difficult run of fixtures the start of this season. All things which can turn the other way.
 
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i get it offensively we have to get better. these 9 attempts at a cross, only to lose it are frustrating & how dangerous we were when we got it in quicker. then that 1 on 1 compare that vardy 14 months we knew it was in from the moment he touched it.

but also lets have some more realism. this is man city. we never be there equal & we have to defend. not because we plan to but because they packed full of quality with playing B Silva, KDB, Sterling, Foden. in 2 games we lost 1-0. defensively outstanding & it could be far worse


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You don’t expect points against city but I did expect a better performance, that should have been a cricket score. Our midfield is so poor this season.

Early days but Brewster doesn’t look like he’s gonna score the goals we need, hope I’m wrong.
 
Given the position we are in, there’s plenty of negative posts on here, which is understandable up to a point.
Trying to be positive, if only to counter the fact that games are being played with no fans present, means the supporters have no way to vent their frustrations in person, as part of that awesome Bramall Lane noise machine. The live support is only one major factor that Wilder and the players are currently lacking.
Imagine you are our new record signing, making your debut in the PL, in empty stadiums?

The team is missing that aspect of support probably more than most clubs.
Wilder does not have the budget for signings or wages that other clubs in this division have, but he is criticized for his signings and his team selections. When you look closely what he has available to him, he’s done pretty well tactically, to lose games by the odd goal and not by a spanking.
Who could foresee the loss of JOC for a season? Fleck and Moose out for long spells?
Do you pick either of the last two fixtures to debut Bogle as a better attacking replacement for Baldock?
Ampadu was rightly praised for his performance at Anfield, but he didn’t click in the same way against Man City. He is a quality player, still finding his way around a system that is creaking at the seams due to the loss of long term regulars.
Some of those individuals have suffered loss of form, or injuries, when Widers success was built on 8 or 9 players who could start every game.
Meanwhile he has the responsibility for bringing new players up to scratch tactically and fitness wise for our system.
His desperation in selection means he has to field a bloke who he knows won’t be around much longer, but he could be the one who finds a goal or an assist, when Wilders team selection has kept our side in with a chance of stealing something, from a low scoring game.

We started last season with a one all draw away to Bournemouth. Sharp scored and a side we aspired to emulate were relegated. Seems like yesterday.

Supporters can’t support right now, but we can try to understand some of the difficulties we face from a distance. Everyone has an opinion, and anyone can criticize, just try to be constructive, and supportive with your opinions.
 
And by the way, fuck off Kyle Walker with his “I want to finish my career at the Blades” fucking shit. We’re not a last big pay day before your put out to retirement stud you fucking ponce. I’d rather play a 17 year old Sheffield lad than you. Who does he think he is, fucking Peter Withe and the rest of the Dads Army?
 
And by the way, fuck off Kyle Walker with his “I want to finish my career at the Blades” fucking shit. We’re not a last big pay day before your put out to retirement stud you fucking ponce. I’d rather play a 17 year old Sheffield lad than you. Who does he think he is, fucking Peter Withe and the rest of the Dads Army?
Atleast he would be quicker, better than signing Jagielka who half of posters on here could beat in a foot race.
 
You don’t expect points against city but I did expect a better performance, that should have been a cricket score. Our midfield is so poor this season.

Early days but Brewster doesn’t look like he’s gonna score the goals we need, hope I’m wrong.
Brewster was never worth the £fee + he was not the answer to our deficiencies.
Our signings since promotion to the PL , excepting Berge & Ramsdale , are what will relegate us.
A lesson in how £100m can be wasted.
 
Our transfer business was not outstanding by any means, it’s alright signing Brewster but if there’s no one to supply the ammunition it’s a waste of time.
Our midfield is the weakest part of the team, no pace no one can take anyone on or go past a player. A creative midfielder should of been at the top of the shopping list after last season.
 
And by the way, fuck off Kyle Walker with his “I want to finish my career at the Blades” fucking shit. We’re not a last big pay day before your put out to retirement stud you fucking ponce. I’d rather play a 17 year old Sheffield lad than you. Who does he think he is, fucking Peter Withe and the rest of the Dads Army?
What's your issue with Kyle Walker?

What's wrong with the lad wanting to play for the blades again?
 
Our transfer business was not outstanding by any means, it’s alright signing Brewster but if there’s no one to supply the ammunition it’s a waste of time.
Our midfield is the weakest part of the team, no pace no one can take anyone on or go past a player. A creative midfielder should of been at the top of the shopping list after last season.
Pretty sure Berge has taken on and beaten a player at least once every game this season..
 



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