CONFIRMED Nils Zätterström to Genoa

[Berkshire Blade]

Still had subs left with a lead with a few minutes to go. Not even used as a time killer....

Doubt Dunfermline can afford him...

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Italy can be nice in the Spring though.

 

[Blade56]

Gerrrim back, been working on a chant for his name for months.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Still on his 1 minute in total.

God knows what we can do with him.

 

[s20Blade]

Still on his 1 minute in total.

God knows what we can do with him.

Gerr'im'in startin 11

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Gerrrim back, been working on a chant for his name for months.

Please share ASAP.

 

[LBA_Blade]

On a serious note I don’t know what the inspiration behind signing him was, now aged 20 he is still young enough to develop if he gets any game time. Is it worth playing him in the development squad till January next season and then sending him out on an EFL loan or see if there is any interest. It is the same with Matos, 2 players that aren’t of quality to start but unless tested we don’t really know their standards.

 

[Blade56]

Please share ASAP.

It’s set to George Frideric Handel's Zadok the Priest, just can’t get the hook line right for it to be catchy enough.

 

[jt64]

On a serious note I don’t know what the inspiration behind signing him was

We've needed to sign a centre back pretty much continuously since O'Connell got injured. This is a young one with no reason to believe he is not already at the level where he can be at worst a competent backup/rotation option. It wasn't a rocket science level move

 

[Berkshire Blade]

We've needed to sign a centre back pretty much continuously since O'Connell got injured. This is a young one with no reason to believe he is not already at the level where he can be at worst a competent backup/rotation option. It wasn't a rocket science level move

Just because we needed one didn't mean spending millions on a Swedish lad who wasn't first choice in a much weaker league makes sense!

 

[LBA_Blade]

We've needed to sign a centre back pretty much continuously since O'Connell got injured. This is a young one with no reason to believe he is not already at the level where he can be at worst a competent backup/rotation option. It wasn't a rocket science level move

Definitely understand that argument for me and it’s good with hindsight but we should have been looking for someone that could have stepped in straight away. Maybe we do keep him at the club next season but we also need to develop that talent, he like a version of Peck in a way where we have signed an academy player from another team with a view of bringing him into our setup. I think CBs in general take longer to develop into the finished article. If Forest don’t go down it would be interesting to see if we go back for Bindon next season of if Leicester do if we go for Souttar.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

We've needed to sign a centre back pretty much continuously since O'Connell got injured. This is a young one with no reason to believe he is not already at the level where he can be at worst a competent backup/rotation option. It wasn't a rocket science level move

I'm not sure I follow the logic of "no reason to believe he isn't already at the level..."

He'd previously only played in the Swedish league and didn't join with glowing reviews.

He subsequently joined and trained with the squad day in, day out.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Just because we needed one didn't mean spending millions on a Swedish lad who wasn't first choice in a much weaker league makes sense!

Is their a definitive way of comparing the Allsvenskan and the Championship? The clubs don't normally meet in competative games. I know Chelsea brushed aside Djurgården in a European competition in recent times but most Championship teams couldn't cope with Chelsea.

I have seen Djurgården play a couple of league games when in Sweden (most recently last season) and thought they were pretty decent though they're not one of the top teams but it's hard to compare them without direct competition between the clubs from the respective Leagues.

 

[jt64]

I'm not sure I follow the logic of "no reason to believe he isn't already at the level..."

He'd previously only played in the Swedish league and didn't join with glowing reviews.

He subsequently joined and trained with the squad day in, day out.

If we signed the only Swedish outfielder to ever get a senior cap that couldn't hack it at Championship level then that is the worst case of running bad I have ever seen in my life

 

[ml1997]

If we signed the only Swedish outfielder to ever get a senior cap that couldn't hack it at Championship level then that is the worst case of running bad I have ever seen in my life

Sweden are decent but there will be many Sweden capped players who wouldn’t get a game for us.

 

[Rodley]

Is their a definitive way of comparing the Allsvenskan and the Championship? The clubs don't normally meet in competative games. I know Chelsea brushed aside Djurgården in a European competition in recent times but most Championship teams couldn't cope with Chelsea.

I have seen Djurgården play a couple of league games when in Sweden (most recently last season) and thought they were pretty decent though they're not one of the top teams but it's hard to compare them without direct competition between the clubs from the respective Leagues.

In terms of UEFA coefficient the Swedish league sits one below the SPL and one above the Croatian SuperSport HNL. And his reviews were pretty poor for performances in that league.

 

[LBA_Blade]

In terms of UEFA coefficient the Swedish league sits one below the SPL and one above the Croatian SuperSport HNL. And his reviews were pretty poor for performances in that league.

Just to summarise are we saying the SPL is Championship/League 1 level, not sure on Croatian level to be honest so on that basis, if he was a top performer in Sweden he is probably looking at anything from lower Premier League to top end Championship, but i guess if he was 19 probably higher Premier League if performing well. With him not looking the best in Sweden we could judge him like a younger McGuinness?

 

[Badger Blade]

A few of the standouts from the Swedish league have come to the Championship recently so highlights the sort of level they're at.

Priske, Walta, Henriksson, Zetterström, Dovin and Eile (via the MLS) to name a few. Competent footballers but not necessarily stand out players, or at least not yet.

Priske who came on for Birmingham was Djurgården's top scorer last season but might be better judged after a proper preseason with their and our season out of sync.

Anyone who is half decent over there soon gets snapped up by sides across Europe pretty early on. I'd say that anyone over the age of 25 who is still playing in the Allsvenskan probably isn't good enough to hack it here or they'd already have gone. Viktor Johansson was at Villa at 16.

Look out for a few joining Middlesbrough next season, especially if they don't go up.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

In terms of UEFA coefficient the Swedish league sits one below the SPL and one above the Croatian SuperSport HNL. And his reviews were pretty poor for performances in that league.

I knew about the coefficient but I go back to my original point that Championship teams don't get sually get tested against these teams in actuality.

 

[KMC-1889]

On a serious note I don’t know what the inspiration behind signing him was, now aged 20 he is still young enough to develop if he gets any game time. Is it worth playing him in the development squad till January next season and then sending him out on an EFL loan or see if there is any interest. It is the same with Matos, 2 players that aren’t of quality to start but unless tested we don’t really know their standards.

We aren’t going to be able to sell them. If we employed a loan manager for the youth players I’d be hoping they would be finding homes for them at a league one club in the summer so we can get some idea of their potential. Same for Onê, Marsh, Blacker, Sachdev (if he’s fit again) and any other of the ones starting to cut through (Easton, Beattie etc…)

 

[Thrice]

If the goal was to get him game time he should've been loaned to a League One club, not a Serie A team. If he wasn't good enough to play for Sheffield United, why would he be good enough to play in the top division in Italy? Wasted months here where he potentially could've been developed into a useful player.

To me it seems the club just jumped at the first opportunity to get rid of him.

 

[SwissBlade]

If the goal was to get him game time he should've been loaned to a League One club, not a Serie A team. If he wasn't good enough to play for Sheffield United, why would he be good enough to play in the top division in Italy? Wasted months here where he potentially could've been developed into a useful player.

To me it seems the club just jumped at the first opportunity to get rid of him.

Did you see him play at all?

 

[Roygbiv]

Probably the craziest signing of the lot. He wasn't even getting in Malmo's team when we signed him. The Swedish cap is a bit of a red herring too. He only got called up because several other players refused their call up. Zatterstrom was is the U21s and was called up due to that

 

[Thrice]

Did you see him play at all?

Nope, but he's only 20 years old and it feels pointless to give up on him already after spending money to bring him in.

But maybe he just isn't very good. I don't know.

 

[YES Blade]

I assume we can’t cut short his loan and give him an opportunity in the first team?

The season is over so wouldn’t harm giving him a chance to prove himself.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

If the goal was to get him game time he should've been loaned to a League One club, not a Serie A team. If he wasn't good enough to play for Sheffield United, why would he be good enough to play in the top division in Italy? Wasted months here where he potentially could've been developed into a useful player.

To me it seems the club just jumped at the first opportunity to get rid of him.

This is a good point. United mostly loan players from other teams based on our perceived needs and loan them out to gain experience when they're not needed in the first team. He isn't getting any experience warming their bench.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

If the goal was to get him game time he should've been loaned to a League One club, not a Serie A team. If he wasn't good enough to play for Sheffield United, why would he be good enough to play in the top division in Italy? Wasted months here where he potentially could've been developed into a useful player.

To me it seems the club just jumped at the first opportunity to get rid of him.

Potentially the only offer

 

[The Crab]

Is their a definitive way of comparing the Allsvenskan and the Championship? The clubs don't normally meet in competative games. I know Chelsea brushed aside Djurgården in a European competition in recent times but most Championship teams couldn't cope with Chelsea.

I have seen Djurgården play a couple of league games when in Sweden (most recently last season) and thought they were pretty decent though they're not one of the top teams but it's hard to compare them without direct competition between the clubs from the respective Leagues.

Yeah I need a chat with you about Sweden.

Those DVD I asked you to get? You didn’t have your fucking readers on did you?

What the fuck am I going to do with 20 prom videos?

I don’t even like classical music…

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Yeah I need a chat with you about Sweden.

Those DVD I asked you to get? You didn’t have your fucking readers on did you?

What the fuck am I going to do with 20 prom videos?

I don’t even like classical music…

What can I say, the cute but over enthusiastic airport securitess even cofiscated my lubricant, I mean, lingonberry jam.

To be fair, regards the vhs tapes, at your age I thought you'd probably drop of to sleep after the opening credits anyway. My bad.

 

[SwissBlade]

Nope, but he's only 20 years old and it feels pointless to give up on him already after spending money to bring him in.

But maybe he just isn't very good. I don't know.

I’ve not either but I’m aware others have that make big decisions at the club.

He hasn’t featured, for reasons of form, ability, fitness or whatever in neither the championship nor Serie A.

I understand when we bought him the deal was longer term. To develop no doubt. He needed games for that and he’s not had them.

I presume Wilder was focused on bringing players in that were ready to play. That could be starters or at least make the bench. Moving wages around most likely helped bring those players in. Experienced players

We did a deal to get him moved on loan with a permanent clause as well. Given he’s not played much I’d assume they won’t be taking the chance to buy him and he’ll instead be returned.

Sometimes decisions aren’t just purely football and players get lucky / unlucky. He might be great in the long term. He might be crap. But we needed players for the present