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He said our fans "shouldn't sing his name so loudly," he said it FACT. no need to say it at all, it had nothing to do with our defeat he should concentrate on the real reasons, mainly down to himself.
didn't actually say that though did he.

You missed the fact he said the next time we play them which is obviously a dig at Brown and not the fans.

So not only have you lied, you continue to peddle your lie again as it suits your agenda. Absolutely moronic behaviour.
 



Yeah they can and he can say what he thinks of that too. Which was more of a slur on Brown than the fans.
didn't actually say that though did he.

You missed the fact he said the next time we play them which is obviously a dig at Brown and not the fans.

So not only have you lied, you continue to peddle your lie again as it suits your agenda. Absolutely moronic be
didn't actually say that though did he.

You missed the fact he said the next time we play them which is obviously a dig at Brown and not the fans.

So not only have you lied, you continue to peddle your lie again as it suits your agenda. Absolutely moronic behaviour.

Clough's comments are ill advised at best, I don't think it comes across as a dig at Brown it does come across as a sly dig at our/his fans. Dangerous business that in my mind. Perhaps we could laugh it off if we had trounced them but we weren't at the races thanks to what many people say were his poor tactics. I think he is trying to divert from his many failings exhibited/coming home to roost.
 
If we'd won, how many posts would this thread have garnered?

a) Less than this?
b) Much less than this?
c) Wouldn't even have been born?
 
If we'd won, how many posts would this thread have garnered?

a) Less than this?
b) Much less than this?
c) Wouldn't even have been born?
Imagine if they'd had the internet 35 years ago!
 
If we'd won, how many posts would this thread have garnered?

a) Less than this?
b) Much less than this?
c) Wouldn't even have been born?

Well he wouldn't have said it if we had won would he?

That we didn't win undeniably is down to Clough and his negative team and tactics, as Harry would say FACT
 
Well he wouldn't have said it if we had won would he?

That we didn't win undeniably is down to Clough and his negative team and tactics, as Harry would say FACT
Fed up with this nonsense about negative tactics. Playing with one striker does not denote negative tactics. MK Dons do it frequently and most Prem teams play 4-2-3-1. Look at the amount of chances we create every week. Doesn't look negative at all to me. The problem is a very simple one, getting the ball in the back of the net because we lack a great striker who can tear this league apart. Mcnulty is getting there though.
 
Fed up with this nonsense about negative tactics. Playing with one striker does not denote negative tactics. MK Dons do it frequently and most Prem teams play 4-2-3-1. Look at the amount of chances we create every week. Doesn't look negative at all to me. The problem is a very simple one, getting the ball in the back of the net because we lack a great striker who can tear this league apart. Mcnulty is getting there though.
Do we have a different 11 for the second halves?

I accept your point about it being more than just formations, but we really are overly cautious, at best, for the first half of just about every game.
 
Fed up with this nonsense about negative tactics. Playing with one striker does not denote negative tactics. MK Dons do it frequently and most Prem teams play 4-2-3-1. Look at the amount of chances we create every week. Doesn't look negative at all to me. The problem is a very simple one, getting the ball in the back of the net because we lack a great striker who can tear this league apart. Mcnulty is getting there though.

yes, we create so many clear chances. His tactics are negative. It's a rare event that we get many men in the box.
 
Fed up with this nonsense about negative tactics. Playing with one striker does not denote negative tactics. MK Dons do it frequently and most Prem teams play 4-2-3-1. Look at the amount of chances we create every week. Doesn't look negative at all to me. The problem is a very simple one, getting the ball in the back of the net because we lack a great striker who can tear this league apart. Mcnulty is getting there though.
Getting where ? The bench ?
 
Do we have a different 11 for the second halves?

I accept your point about it being more than just formations, but we really are overly cautious, at best, for the first half of just about every game.
True, our first halves are crap but I think he has mentioned that we are slow to start and he has been trying to fix it. It's not a deliberate tactic of his.
 
Yeah no need to mention the fans really at the end of that video.

Although he did point out we should have taken our chances earlier on the game.
 



We've got to play port Vale again ? Oh Fuck me I've had enough
and for the next few seasons i think my friend, if we cant beat the likes of the mighty,walsall,fleetwood and not forgetting the formiddable
port vale ! not a chance of promotion, scunthorpe up next and i dont think we will get anything from that game either :rolleyes:
 
Fed up with this nonsense about negative tactics. Playing with one striker does not denote negative tactics. MK Dons do it frequently and most Prem teams play 4-2-3-1. Look at the amount of chances we create every week. Doesn't look negative at all to me. The problem is a very simple one, getting the ball in the back of the net because we lack a great striker who can tear this league apart. Mcnulty is getting there though.

And it doesn't help that we have a CRAP midfield and a defence like a colander !!
UTB & FTP
 
Michael Brown is my favourite United player I've seen after Tony Agana - THAT season he had with us was as good an individual season as I've seen from a Sheffield United player. Whilst we were a decent side that season, Brown turned us into genuine promotion contenders, he was amazing.

The fact that our fans hold Brown in such high regard for what was essentially a couple of decent seasons with an absolute cracker in 02/03 is shown by the fact that even when he plays for the opposition, he gets his name chanted. I think that is the first time - that I can remember, anyway - we have come up against him since he left ten years ago but his performances in that season were so good that people still get goosebumps now. I still refer to him as "Lord" now, I spent many a transfer window until maybe the last couple hoping for him to return. I could watch the goal he scored against Wednesday over and over and over again until the day I die and not ever grow tired of watching it.

However, he was a Port Vale player today. I haven't been to the game but I think I would definitely have applauded him before the game and possibly chanted his name. I'd draw the line at during the game (unless we were 3-0 up) but each to their own. Brown should have known, if he didn't already, at the point he was chanted at by the SUFC fans that he is still held in the highest of esteems by our supporters. Some of our fans that have grown from children to men in the last ten years may only know Brownie as their idol - they may not know of the Agana and Deane of my generation, the Currie and Woodwards of my Dad's generation or the Hagan's of my grandfathers.

I haven't seen what happened. I trust Clough's word and accept that, in his opinion, it was not worthy of a red card. I also don't believe he would lie about Brown rolling around. I am going to look with interest on the FLS or YouTube at what happened. I genuinely hope that Brownie has not done what he is being accused of. I would hope that knowing what an idol/legend/whatever you want to call him he is to the Blades, I would hope that he would save those kind of antics for the fans of other clubs without respect for him - the Grunters and the Florists for example. I sincerely hope he hasn't got Basham sent off.

However, Clough's comment makes me seriously doubt that he hasn't got Basham sent off. I find that a sad indictment of where the modern game is at where three points is more important than your legacy, the bond with fans past and present. I doubt the Port Vale fans will think better of him for getting Basham sent off but I know Sheffield United fans will lose a lot of respect for him if he has. Play the game, give your all for your club, do everything you can to beat your former club but do it within the laws and spirit of the game.

I hope he hasn't ... but I suspect he has.

As for Clough, he didn't have a go at the Blades fans for chanting Brown's names. It was a dig at Brown because he clearly believes that Brown got Basham sent off. Maybe Clough just values sportsmanship and fair play and found it sad that Brown would do that against a club with a bunch of supporters that hold Brownie in such high regards. The OP is a load of bollocks of the highest nature.
 
Michael Brown was an absolute legend when he played for us - combining quality and 100% commitment - qualities sadly lacking in the current team.

We were 1-0 down before the sending off today. Clough blaming the defeat on that is yet another example of him trying to shift the focus away from himself and the players. The recent results speak for themselves. Clough should focus on putting things right rather than spouting shite.
 
And it doesn't help that we have a CRAP midfield and a defence like a colander !!
UTB & FTP
We've only conceded 26 goals. Could be less but remember 5 of them were on one single day. The midfield is decent but could be better. It's upfront where we have issues as we have not even hit the 30 goal mark just yet.
 
Michael Brown is a legend to me too. Not too sure what went off but surely modern referees don't send people off for the number of forward rolls a player does once they've been fouled although I know it possibly could make a foul look slightly worse than it actually is. Problem for me is Clough's tactics just aren't right. I couldn't get to today's game so went to watch Chesterfield instead, 3-2 win which could have ended 3-3 and Chesterfield battered them for most of the game. Point I want to make is Eoin Doyle scored a couple and should have had a hat trick and worked his socks off but you would put money on him being a flop at the Lane because the way we play just doesn't suit an out and out striker. Clough needs to sit in the stands for a game to get a different view of the game rather than stand on the touchline as I reckon he can't be watching the same game as I do week in week out. Either change the way we play league matches or accept that fans are going to be singing things to get their feelings heard, supporters wouldn't be singing Michaels Browns name during a game if they had anyone else's to sing about which we haven't had for a few seasons now. To be honest take out Mr Evans and we're back to Brownie, Dean, Agana and co for any recent player worth singing about which is shocking for such a well supported club
 
Doesn't seem to take a great deal of possession or pre sure to score against us though does it
where as we seem to need about 25 chances to score 1 goal which usually gets levelled up by the oppositions first cross in the box
 
Michael Brown was outstanding for us, yes, maybe amongst our "greats" ( it's all relative of course). He was a skilled, dynamic player who did the business for a full season and was key to our promotion.

However, he always played the game with an "edge" and he has always had a "will to win", a ruthless professional who would always do whatever is necessary to win the game. Never was one of the game's "gentlemen", not at all.
 
Michael Brown was outstanding for us, yes, maybe amongst our "greats" ( it's all relative of course). He was a skilled, dynamic player who did the business for a full season and was key to our promotion.

However, he always played the game with an "edge" and he has always had a "will to win", a ruthless professional who would always do whatever is necessary to win the game. Never was one of the game's "gentlemen", not at all.

Woodwardfan . It is what we are missing as a team , the Michael Brown factor of the team playing with a "edge" , "will to win" and that ruthless streak . A guy like Brown could be the missing link , but the down side is bookings and suspensions .

Wallace was made for the midfield job , but 1 game in 8 is what you get when taking the risk of signing a injury prone player .

Mr Clough is a championship manager , and that may be the problem. Himself or his back-room staff do not know the league , as well as we thought he did , and his lack of knowledge of tactical awareness is now showing . Teams have found us out , due to the blades being predictable and unable to score goals on a regular basis ( without proven up front goal scorers).

We are weak in the 3no main spine positions of any successful team , CH , midfield , CF.. This is basic football and 20,000 of us know this , week in week out.

Forget the cup runs , which are a nice distraction from the league . The biggest achievement will be reaching the playoffs , the shit or bust lottery it brings.

The situation we are in , and the results being achieved is down to Mr Clough . Let us see how good a manager he really is , with a lot of points still to play for.

UTB
 
Woodwardfan . It is what we are missing as a team , the Michael Brown factor of the team playing with a "edge" , "will to win" and that ruthless streak . A guy like Brown could be the missing link , but the down side is bookings and suspensions .

Wallace was made for the midfield job , but 1 game in 8 is what you get when taking the risk of signing a injury prone player .

Mr Clough is a championship manager , and that may be the problem. Himself or his back-room staff do not know the league , as well as we thought he did , and his lack of knowledge of tactical awareness is now showing . Teams have found us out , due to the blades being predictable and unable to score goals on a regular basis ( without proven up front goal scorers).

We are weak in the 3no main spine positions of any successful team , CH , midfield , CF.. This is basic football and 20,000 of us know this , week in week out.

Forget the cup runs , which are a nice distraction from the league . The biggest achievement will be reaching the playoffs , the shit or bust lottery it brings.

The situation we are in , and the results being achieved is down to Mr Clough . Let us see how good a manager he really is , with a lot of points still to play for.

UTB
Agree to a certain extent. I think we play three in centre midfield to compensate for the fact we haven't got two good ones.

I thought The team selection was poor yesterday. Boggy pitch, physical team and we go with three lightweights. For me,Basham should have been in there to add some strength and Baxter who can actually create something .

Our central midfield three show no creativity and two of them yesterday couldn't tackle themselves out of a wet paper bag.

I suspect at the start of the season NC wanted Bash and Wallace as a two. His problem now is that Bash has established himself as the best of some very average central defenders.
 
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We chanted his name because we remember him as a Blade through and through who worked hard and showed passion and respect for the shirt on his back. How many current players names or the managers were chanted yesterday?
 

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