next season's attendance...................

[Stafford Blade]

how many are we going to get through the turnstiles next season? plenty of people will be losing jobs, not as much spare money to play with. We currently have a very average team with pricks like ched evans taking some silly wages every week for fuck all and I know of many fans that are losing / lost interest.

I'm in the lost interest category, an ex season ticket holder who really couldn't give two hoots any more. I notice there hasn't been 1 category c match yet this season, if Scunny are a category B, who the fuck is in category C??

The club need to start making an effort to entice people back through the doors and rekindle interest in alot of people. Otherwise next seasons season ticket sales will be woeful. I think Speed is trying to do the right thing but you can't polish a turd. Next season's prices will have to be looked at very carefully as any sort of increase in prices would be scandalous.

 

[JohnDenver]

how many are we going to get through the turnstiles next season? plenty of people will be losing jobs, not as much spare money to play with. We currently have a very average team with pricks like ched evans taking some silly wages every week for fuck all and I know of many fans that are losing / lost interest.

I'm in the lost interest category, an ex season ticket holder who really couldn't give two hoots any more. I notice there hasn't been 1 category c match yet this season, if Scunny are a category B, who the fuck is in category C??

The club need to start making an effort to entice people back through the doors and rekindle interest in alot of people. Otherwise next seasons season ticket sales will be woeful. I think Speed is trying to do the right thing but you can't polish a turd. Next season's prices will have to be looked at very carefully as any sort of increase in prices would be scandalous.

If you really don't care, why are you posting?

Cat C prices usually relate to Carling Cup early rounds. We didn't have any this season.

 

[Stafford Blade]

If you really don't care, why are you posting?

Cat C prices usually relate to Carling Cup early rounds. We didn't have any this season.

because those making the decisions need to know that they can't keep taking the piss with the paying public.

anyway, shouldn't you be more worried about getting your kickers in a twist over Gary Sinclair?

 

[Bladesman]

20,000 there yesterday but to me it looked alot less than that.

 

[JohnDenver]

because those making the decisions need to know that they can't keep taking the piss with the paying public.

So you do actually do care...

 

[Stafford Blade]

So you do actually do care...

No. I'm past caring, I'll not be wasting my money on them again for the forseeable future. But from last season to this, my season ticket ( if i had renewed ) went up by over 9%, how the hell can that be justifed?

will it really take games being played in front of huge sections of empty red seats for those in charge to wake up and realise people won't and can't pay silly money to watch very average football.

 

[raul]

Apart from first game, has there been any other games where there hasn't been an offer of some sort in place? I got a text on Thursday offering me a fiver off and I think we've already had a quid a kid day and the bring a mate for a tenner day? If next Sat isn't already a cat c job, I bet it will be now.

If I was minded to attend every game as a non STH now, I think it would actually work out cheaper than buying one and paying for it on DD.

 

[Stafford Blade]

Raul. i got a freebie on the 1st day ( not been since! ) and there were people with wads of tickets in the ground who couldn't get rid of the tickets they'd been given. If people don't want a free ticket to the 1st home game of the season what does that tell you about the state of things?

They have to risk pissing of the season ticket holders off with cat c, bogof offers etc otherwise 14-16k could be a realistic attendance

 

[raul]

Next saturday could be very interesting for the do-they-or-don't-they-fudge-the attendance debate. Me? I'll be watching Cowdenbeath. Now there's a club with AMBITION...

 

[lenners]

The problem is Raul they stuffed themselves with the complete and utter cock-up over season ticket sales and match day prices in the summer.
People who have become successful as businessmen with apparently not a clue how to price or market season tickets or match day tickets.
Mebbes they're keeping the tenner tickets back for the relegation battle though I would be tempted to make Boxing Day or whenever the Xmas fixture is a tenner game to try to get somewhere near a full house to remind everyone, including themselves, what the potential is.
They could market it as an Xmas gift to fans, start marketing it a month before etc, etc.

 

[Stafford Blade]

nice thinking len, but boxing day will be 34 quid category A. No doubt the suits at the top will be scratching their heads wondering why the ground is only 2/3 full at best.

 

[JohnDenver]

No. I'm past caring, I'll not be wasting my money on them again for the forseeable future. But from last season to this, my season ticket ( if i had renewed ) went up by over 9%, how the hell can that be justifed?

You think I'm winding you up, but the initial question was genuine. I still think you must be bothered to be asking these questions.

 

[lenners]

nice thinking len, but boxing day will be 34 quid category A. No doubt the suits at the top will be scratching their heads wondering why the ground is only 2/3 full at best.

Say what you like about Strafford - and a lot did - but he did well to keep season ticket numbers where they were and I think, though I stand to be corrected, they might have had some sort of deal for their Boxing Day match with Newcastle last year.

 

[JohnDenver]

Say what you like about Strafford - and a lot did - but he did well to keep season ticket numbers where they were and I think, though I stand to be corrected, they might have had some sort of deal for their Boxing Day match with Newcastle last year.

Aye, and Hitler built some nice railways.

 

[Stafford Blade]

You think I'm winding you up, but the initial question was genuine. I still think you must be bothered to be asking these questions.

I genuinely am not bothered. I've had some great saturday afternoons this year when i usually would have been at the lane. Football is on its arse at the moment, some clubs are realising this and plenty ( including united ) aren't.

 

[alcoblade]

Say what you like about Strafford - and a lot did - but he did well to keep season ticket numbers where they were and I think, though I stand to be corrected, they might have had some sort of deal for their Boxing Day match with Newcastle last year.

He lost them lots of cash. Filling the ground would be quite easy. Paying wages and stuff along the way is a lot harder. I'm not saying we canb't get a lot better, but I don't think Strap-on's model was any good.

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[lenners]

I genuinely am not bothered. I've had some great saturday afternoons this year when i usually would have been at the lane. Football is on its arse at the moment, some clubs are realising this and plenty ( including united ) aren't.

I'm afraid this is bang on the money. It is far from all United's fault (ie the obscenity of the wages) but United do appear to be one of those clubs totally clueless as to what the future can or should hold.
The rank bull spun out about how well run we were, jeez. Some fans, I kid you not, did actually believe it.

 

[lenners]

He lost them lots of cash. Filling the ground would be quite easy. Paying wages and stuff along the way is a lot harder. I'm not saying we canb't get a lot better, but I don't think Strap-on's model was any good.

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Not saying it was perfect but we've had nearly a third of our home games and not one has been a tenner. I know two fans who would have almost certainly come to a tenner game and may have been enticed back for more.
Instead, our clueless board phoned them up and offered six tickets for the price of five (no prizes for guessing how that particularly stupid bit of marketing has gone) and they're in no doubt as to how shit we are now and are less likely to come back.

 

[alcoblade]

I'm afraid this is bang on the money. It is far from all United's fault (ie the obscenity of the wages) but United do appear to be one of those clubs totally clueless as to what the future can or should hold.
The rank bull spun out about how well run we were, jeez. Some fans, I kid you not, did actually believe it.

What are other clubs doiing that we aren't?

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[axel smeets]

Say what you like about Strafford - and a lot did - but he did well to keep season ticket numbers where they were and I think, though I stand to be corrected, they might have had some sort of deal for their Boxing Day match with Newcastle last year.

Such as the £10 all areas home game they had v Reading last season which, I believe, put 500 extra on the gate from their previous home game. If the product is shite, people won't be arsed to come and see it, even if it is chicken feed prices.

 

[Stafford Blade]

500 is 500 more than nowt though axel. You are right, the product is garbage and i won't be going for a tenner but there are many people that didn't renew season tickets last year that might be tempted.

 

[lenners]

Such as the £10 all areas home game they had v Reading last season which, I believe, put 500 extra on the gate from their previous home game. If the product is shite, people won't be arsed to come and see it, even if it is chicken feed prices.

Axel, their gates stood up really well last season and this season all things considered - including very good season ticket sales.
I'm not saying it's the only option but we should have had a tenner game already this season, particularly when it may well have enticed some of the 5,000 lost season ticket holders.
The longer you stop going, the harder it is to get them back.
SUFC fucked up in the summer and continued to do so during the early part of the season.

 

[alcoblade]

Such as the £10 all areas home game they had v Reading last season which, I believe, put 500 extra on the gate from their previous home game. If the product is shite, people won't be arsed to come and see it, even if it is chicken feed prices.

Exactly. Slashing prices is the road to the poor house. If we've got cash to spare we need to point it towards a new striker. Build and they will come.

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500 is 500 more than nowt though axel. You are right, the product is garbage and i won't be going for a tenner but there are many people that didn't renew season tickets last year that might be tempted.

500 more that nowt and about £100K up in smoke.

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[Stafford Blade]

Exactly. Slashing prices is the road to the poor house. If we've got cash to spare we need to point it towards a new striker. Build and they will come.

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500 more that nowt and about £100K up in smoke.

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you've lost me.... how is it 100k up in smoke?

 

[alcoblade]

you've lost me.... how is it 100k up in smoke?

Because all the ones who were coming anyway for £25 get charged £10 too.

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[axel smeets]

As a ST holder, I personally have no objection to the cat c games, but these are built into the ST prices anyway. However, if we lose 2-3000 over the next few weeks, then I wouldn't see the point in slashing prices, because as alcoblade says, it is the road to the poorhouse.

How much money did strapon cost swfc on the last day of last season when he slashed their prices to £10 just to get a 38000 full house? Palace paid full price anyway, and wednesdayites were always going to turn out in large numbers for that do or die match. He must have cost them over £150k on that game alone.

If we start down that road, we could find ourselves with cash flow problems as well.

 

[Stafford Blade]

Because all the ones who were coming anyway for £25 get charged £10 too.

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right, got it!!

Although, how many people actually pay on the day? 20000 there yesterday, take out the season tickets, away fans and freebies, that doesn't leave that many daft enough to part with 25 quid

 

[Trigger Blade]

Not saying it was perfect but we've had nearly a third of our home games and not one has been a tenner. I know two fans who would have almost certainly come to a tenner game and may have been enticed back for more.
Instead, our clueless board phoned them up and offered six tickets for the price of five (no prizes for guessing how that particularly stupid bit of marketing has gone) and they're in no doubt as to how shit we are now and are less likely to come back.

Not like you to be critical of what's gone on in S6 len.

Anyway, AGM coming up, will you be there pointing out to our board that they're clueless, because they're so clueless, they probably don't even realise it?

We're short of visionaries in S2, it's your duty!

 

[lenners]

Because all the ones who were coming anyway for £25 get charged £10 too.

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How would it be gauged only 500 more people bought tickets than otherwise would have done?

 

[alcoblade]

right, got it!!

Although, how many people actually pay on the day? 20000 there yesterday, take out the season tickets, away fans and freebies, that doesn't leave that many daft enough to part with 25 quid

Just 5,000 paying £20 costs £50,000 if you half the price - then you get £5,000 back. Do that a few times and you've lost "Adam Le Fondre's" wages.

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How would it be gauged only 500 more people bought tickets than otherwise would have done?

Difficult Len, agreed. But when they've slashed prices for the early rounds of the cup, the attendances have been rubbish. If the product is shit, people don't want to give up their afternoon, whatever the price.

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