New Tevez Inquiry

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they shouldn't be launching a new enquiry, more acting on what they said in the initial one ;)
 
BBC and Sky reporting....................

mmmmmmmm.........cover yer backs time.

Wonder why the Manure deal is stalling ?
 
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Sky Sports News said:
The Football Association and the Premier League are to launch a fresh inquiry into the Carlos Tevez affair.
The saga has been ongoing for some time and relates to West Ham's successful survival bid towards the end of the 2006/07 season.
The Hammers launched a miraculous escape to avoid the drop on the final day of the season, at Sheffield United's expense.
However, they were found guilty of having broken Premier League rules in regards to their acquisition of Argentine duo Javier Mascherano and Tevez.
While the former had joined Liverpool by the time Alan Curbishley led the capital club to safety, Tevez played an instrumental role for Upton Park outfit.
West Ham were initially fined £5.5million for breaching laws regarding third-party ownership, but escaped a points reduction.
Sheffield United, unhappy at that ruling, then sought considerable compensation as a result of what they deemed to be an unfair relegation from the top-flight.
An arbitration tribunal then ruled in 2008 that the Hammers were wrong to play Tevez during their end of season run in.
Conduct

Now, the issue has resurfaced once more, with a joint probe set to be launched into the actions of West Ham during that period.
A statement read: "The Premier League and the FA are to institute a joint inquiry into the views expressed by the Independent Arbitral Tribunal chaired by Lord Griffiths in September 2008, which dealt with a compensation claim by Sheffield United against West Ham United brought under FA Rules.
"The joint inquiry will examine whether the conduct of West Ham United immediately after the Independent Disciplinary Commission's decision of 27 April 2007 amounted to further breaches of Premier League or FA Rules."
The Hammers, who could face further disciplinary action, have vowed to 'co-operate fully' with the investigation.
"West Ham United will co-operate fully with the joint inquiry convened by the FA and Premier League," read a statement on the club's official website.
"We have acted in good faith throughout the various inquiries and investigations into this matter and fulfilled the undertakings given to the Premier League following the initial penalty.
"We have nothing to hide and will ensure that this is once again reflected in our evidence to the FA and Premier League."
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So is this to try and clear West Ham?
 
The One said:
So is this to try and clear West Ham?
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Don't think so...............seems they are deeper in the sh1te.............ManUre involved anall .........so i'm told.

Strange this announced and the Tevez thing going tits up at Manure.
 
Yeh sounds like a further enquiry into dealings after the FA fined them, they were probably trying to cover there arses and breached further rules. I dont think this will effect us to be honest. Unless they fine west ham even more so they cant afford to pay us back and they go into admin???

Lincoln Blade
 
Is it true wobble gob brown is giving em an industry bail out..........just like the banks got ? :D
 
This was bound to happen now they have noticed that the perminant transfer of Tevez now seems to be stalling.

It has taken 2 bloody years for them to have another look at the situation.
 
This worries me. I can see it being manipulated into some excuse as to why the courts shouldn't get involved if WH get punished by the league and thus as to why United shouldn't get compensation as its now been rectified by the league albeit retrospectively. Remember United only have an interim decision not compensation.

Lets face it Premiership Reinstatement alone isn't going to do anything for United because without the lost monies we simply can't buy the players to keep us up there.
 
Pastyblade said:
This worries me. I can see it being manipulated into some excuse as to why the courts shouldn't get involved if WH get punished by the league and thus as to why United shouldn't get compensation as its now been rectified by the league albeit retrospectively. Remember United only have an interim decision not compensation.

Lets face it Premiership Reinstatement alone isn't going to do anything for United because without the lost monies we simply can't buy the players to keep us up there.
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mccabe could if he wanted to, not to mention going up is worth 50 million
 
As stated elsewhere, this is to do with covering peples backs at the PL/FA. Scudamore et al suddenly need to look squeaky clean on this and the Tevez on/off deal at Man U may have been the trigger. If it means they look spotless on this they will dump WH in it from a great height and say they lied through their teeth in order to let Tevez play in the last few games. I personally think they have far more to worry about than we do
 



I can't see this affecting West Ham too much tbh. It's been nearly two years now, and despite persistent rumours that West Ham will have to pay out up to £50m, so far they still haven't paid Sheff Utd a penny, and don't look likely to any time soon. In any case, it won't be near the money quoted (£10m is the rumour I have been hearing).

It's interesting that it has taken so long for the FA/PL to decide that they're not happy with the way West Ham may or may not have acted in the last 3 games, and they now need to look at it? I'd like to know what the trigger for this was?
 
sendô WHU said:
I can't see this affecting West Ham too much tbh. It's been nearly two years now, and despite persistent rumours that West Ham will have to pay out up to £50m, so far they still haven't paid Sheff Utd a penny, and don't look likely to any time soon. In any case, it won't be near the money quoted (£10m is the rumour I have been hearing).

It's interesting that it has taken so long for the FA/PL to decide that they're not happy with the way West Ham may or may not have acted in the last 3 games, and they now need to look at it? I'd like to know what the trigger for this was?
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Gonna admit you were as full of shit as your dispicable team now?

Welcome back by the way :).
 
The trigger may well have been Man Utd and the difficulties they are now having with tying up a deal for Tevez. The motivation is 'save my ass' at the PL/FA.
 
TonyAgana said:
Gonna admit you were as full of shit as your dispicable team now?
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I still maintain that we were punished for the original offence accordingly. As for what happened after the original punishment, hopefully this enquiry will put it to bed once and for all, but I'll be surprised if West Ham are found to have broken any further rules (and not surprised at the same time, in all honestly, this whole Tevez affair never ceases to amaze me).

Despicable? We are a lovely team - look at Zola, a thoroughly likeable bloke, and he resembles the Fonze, and as we all know, everyone likes the Fonze.
 
sendô WHU said:
I still maintain that we were punished for the original offence accordingly. As for what happened after the original punishment, hopefully this enquiry will put it to bed once and for all, but I'll be surprised if West Ham are found to have broken any further rules (and not surprised at the same time, in all honestly, this whole Tevez affair never ceases to amaze me).

Despicable? We are a lovely team - look at Zola, a thoroughly likeable bloke, and he resembles the Fonze, and as we all know, everyone likes the Fonze.
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I don't! :D :D :D :thumbup:
 
Fatty Samuel has obviously not made friends in the office after his move over to the Daily Fail.

Ian Ridley: At last, a chance for justice to be done over the Tevez affair

Curiouser and curiouser. After more than 18 months of tortuous intrigue, claim and counterclaim, the Carlos Tevez affair has taken another twist with the announcement of a new inquiry.

Actually, it is as much Bleak House as Alice in Wonderland as the game shows again its capacity for the litigious and the lunatic.

Bar a probably doomed appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport by West Ham, the episode seemed settled when a Football Association panel ruled last September that Sheffield United were entitled to compensation for their relegation from the Premier League after Tevez's goals had kept West Ham up at their expense. Only the amount appeared left to be decided, with Sheffield United claiming £30million.

During the course of that panel sitting, however, some damaging and significant evidence emerged to cast fresh doubt on the veracity of West Ham's testimony to the Premier League, who are looking expediently cavalier, even incompetent in their handling of the case.

To recap, as simply as possible . . . during the 2006-07 season, it emerged that Tevez, along with Argentina colleague Javier Mascherano, was playing for West Ham contrary to League rules which state that clubs must own players, not third parties such as the agency that had brought them to Europe, MSI.

The League charged the London club, who admitted the breaking of rules. In April of 2007, West Ham were fined £5.5m. By now Mascherano had gone to Liverpool, all above board with the club owning his rights. Tevez remained at West Ham, though, and did much to keep them up, to the disgust of Sheffield United, who had agreed with Fulham, Charlton and Wigan that whoever was relegated would contest their fate, as they believed West Ham should have been docked points and thus gone down.

The League said they allowed Tevez to keep playing that crucial spring because West Ham, through chief executive Scott Duxbury, had assured them that the club owned the player, having persuaded MSI to give up their 'economic rights'.

Many of us doubted that, but the League were adamant all was now clean. In the course of that FA panel, though, Graham Shear, the lawyer acting for MSI, Tevez and his agent Kia Joorabchian, let the cat out of the bag. Shear insisted that Duxbury had offered him 'oral cuddles' to reassure him that the third-party agreement remained in place. That is enough, the FA believe, for a new inquiry.

The Premier League are also putting their name to the inquiry, but you suspect that they have little choice.

Privately, they probably just want this whole thing to go away. The FA's response to that is now clear: not so fast. In recent years, the FA, their chairman Geoff Thompson worryingly cosy with his fellow Sheffield Wednesday fan and Premier League chairman Dave Richards, almost seemed to concede power in the running of the game to the professionals. The new independent chairman, Lord Triesman, looks keen to re-assert the FA's authority, with the Tevez affair offering a goalscoring opportunity.

Some will wonder what the purpose is now and who will benefit by a fresh inquiry. There will certainly be those who suffer from it. Primarily, the Premier League deserve to be discomforted - which may well be a pleasing by-product - for their feeble pursuit of West Ham and lamentable failure to punish them adequately. It will be interesting to discover, for example, just what paperwork the League insisted on from West Ham to prove they, and not MSI, owned Tevez.

You hope it prompts fresh questions, too, about the League's changing of rules to allow Manchester United to sign Tevez on a two-year loan (and the suspicion here has always been that United would not take up the option to buy). Also, if the League thought West Ham did own the player, why is it openly talked about now that any fee for him will go to Joorabchian and his associates?

There seems no need for the inquiry to last long as a wealth of evidence already exists. Once the main aim has been achieved - to expose the farce of the process over which the Premier League presided - Sheffield United should get some money and West Ham the appropriate punishment, possibly the docking of future points. The purpose and the beneficiary? Justice.
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One of the best pieces of journalism on the matter so far!

Also glad to hear that the Blades took exception and complained to Sky about the Goals On Sunday coverage of the new enquiry. As Linz will testify, I was complaining at the TV and the presenters complete lack of understanding on the issue.
 
I can well imagine Duxbury giving someone 'oral cuddles'.
 
Foxy said:
One of the best pieces of journalism on the matter so far!

Also glad to hear that the Blades took exception and complained to Sky about the Goals On Sunday coverage of the new enquiry. As Linz will testify, I was complaining at the TV and the presenters complete lack of understanding on the issue.
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I didn't see goals on sunday, what was said?
 
Sensiblade said:
I didn't see goals on sunday, what was said?
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They basically showed a complete lack of understanding in the situation/purpose of the new enquiry and had a small conversation regarding us not letting things lie etc. Essentially moaning about the fact its rumbling on and blaming us.

They also had Pardew on the sofa, who interestingly made sure he was distanced from any dealings they talked about.
 
Foxy said:
They basically showed a complete lack of understanding in the situation/purpose of the new enquiry and had a small conversation regarding us not letting things lie etc. Essentially moaning about the fact its rumbling on and blaming us.

They also had Pardew on the sofa, who interestingly made sure he was distanced from any dealings they talked about.
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Weasel.
:rant:
 



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