New manager...who would you get?

[PeterNdlovu081]

Good post Pinchy but William Gallas wasn't one of the Invincibles.

 

[Pinchy]

Good post Pinchy but William Gallas wasn't one of the Invincibles.

Quite right Nuddy, but I was in a hurry and I thought of him as an example of the sort of player I had in mind. I could easily have said Huth, Hangeland, Shawcross, Distin, Vertongen, Bassong amongst others.

Similarly in midfield Yaya, Diop, Olifenjana, Elliott, Karl Henry etc. Just examples, not recommendations!

 

[Bladesway]

Presuming we can get any manager we want and pay him stupid wages who would you get out of interest?

I know Brownie has a 4 year old son but I don't think even he would post something this daft

 

[Bladesway]

Presuming we can get any manager we want and pay him stupid wages who would you get out of interest?

I know Brownie has a 4 year old son but I don't think even he would post something this daft

I'm pretty sure that at many stages last season Brendan Rodgers was having his head called for. Suarez's goals probably kept him in a job. Right now he is the Messiah of Liverpool after being top of the league and beating Man Utd.

What's the 'f word' to describe football fans again?

Fucking idiots?

 

[Bladesway]

Presuming we can get any manager we want and pay him stupid wages who would you get out of interest?

I know Brownie has a 4 year old son but I don't think even he would post something this daft

I'm pretty sure that at many stages last season Brendan Rodgers was having his head called for. Suarez's goals probably kept him in a job. Right now he is the Messiah of Liverpool after being top of the league and beating Man Utd.

What's the 'f word' to describe football fans again?

Fucking idiots?

 

[Swanseablade]

Swansea started off like this 10 years ago. Their resurgence included 2 relegations, but they stuck to their plan and it paid off. Suggest we try to do the same.

It wasn't quite the same position as united are in and in many ways united "should be" better placed.
The Swans were on the verge of going out of the football league with a chairman that everyone hated (steady.....) and the fans bought the club for a pound (I think). But it was that series of events, along with some shrewd local businessmen (who were also proper fans) that turned the club around. I think the "mucking in together" ethos got them through it, not keeping the ball for 60%+ of the game.
It wasn't until Martinez was established (later on) that their, so called, possession football reputation began. They had kenny Jackett in this period don't forget.
I think the point of this thread stands.
Weir needs to be given time, for sure.
But he also needs to show that he his tactically aware and can motivate the players effectively; not sure he has done either yet.
Blackman apart, the team IS stronger than Wilson's team, yet we don't look nowhere near as effective (and many considered that team poor.........)

 

[Swanseablade]

Swansea started off like this 10 years ago. Their resurgence included 2 relegations, but they stuck to their plan and it paid off. Suggest we try to do the same.

It wasn't quite the same position as united are in and in many ways united "should be" better placed.
The Swans were on the verge of going out of the football league with a chairman that everyone hated (steady.....) and the fans bought the club for a pound (I think). But it was that series of events, along with some shrewd local businessmen (who were also proper fans) that turned the club around. I think the "mucking in together" ethos got them through it, not keeping the ball for 60%+ of the game.
It wasn't until Martinez was established (later on) that their, so called, possession football reputation began. They had kenny Jackett in this period don't forget.
I think the point of this thread stands.
Weir needs to be given time, for sure.
But he also needs to show that he his tactically aware and can motivate the players effectively; not sure he has done either yet.
Blackman apart, the team IS stronger than Wilson's team, yet we don't look nowhere near as effective (and many considered that team poor.........)

 

[Swanseablade]

Swansea started off like this 10 years ago. Their resurgence included 2 relegations, but they stuck to their plan and it paid off. Suggest we try to do the same.

It wasn't quite the same position as united are in and in many ways united "should be" better placed.
The Swans were on the verge of going out of the football league with a chairman that everyone hated (steady.....) and the fans bought the club for a pound (I think). But it was that series of events, along with some shrewd local businessmen (who were also proper fans) that turned the club around. I think the "mucking in together" ethos got them through it, not keeping the ball for 60%+ of the game.
It wasn't until Martinez was established (later on) that their, so called, possession football reputation began. They had kenny Jackett in this period don't forget.
I think the point of this thread stands.
Weir needs to be given time, for sure.
But he also needs to show that he his tactically aware and can motivate the players effectively; not sure he has done either yet.
Blackman apart, the team IS stronger than Wilson's team, yet we don't look nowhere near as effective (and many considered that team poor.........)

 

[Swanseablade]

Swansea started off like this 10 years ago. Their resurgence included 2 relegations, but they stuck to their plan and it paid off. Suggest we try to do the same.

It wasn't quite the same position as united are in and in many ways united "should be" better placed.
The Swans were on the verge of going out of the football league with a chairman that everyone hated (steady.....) and the fans bought the club for a pound (I think). But it was that series of events, along with some shrewd local businessmen (who were also proper fans) that turned the club around. I think the "mucking in together" ethos got them through it, not keeping the ball for 60%+ of the game.
It wasn't until Martinez was established (later on) that their, so called, possession football reputation began. They had kenny Jackett in this period don't forget.
I think the point of this thread stands.
Weir needs to be given time, for sure.
But he also needs to show that he his tactically aware and can motivate the players effectively; not sure he has done either yet.
Blackman apart, the team IS stronger than Wilson's team, yet we don't look nowhere near as effective (and many considered that team poor.........)

 

[Bergen Blade]

We are not getting either the ball or players forward often enough or quickly enough.

You ♥ hoof!!


Joking aside, some decent observations/views there, think most posters/Blades agree with the majority of it.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

You lot might laugh but a guy like Paolo Di Canio is what I would look for..

A beheading at the Lane is just pandering to prejudice and cliche. Don't think we should be going there!

 

[Pinchy]

A beheading at the Lane is just pandering to prejudice and cliche. Don't think we should be going there!

I did once recommend a public tar and feathering for Blackwell. Did I go too far?

 

[Eskimo]

What I saw on saturday was the ball being played slowly out of defence with Collins and Harry as default playmakers not having a clue who to pass to to get a decent move going everyone in front of them being marked and little effective movement off the ball. This is exactly what I have seen all season and it is not good enough leads to costly mistakes at the back and few chances. Steve Evans sussed out what to do at half time, changed his approach and Wier ended up looking like a fart.

The purpose of the game is to win and you should adapt your approach and style to best achieve this. This team under this manager seems instead to have as its purpose playing a 'passing game'. Pass and lose.

I don't know what needs to change but I did read an intertesting bit in today's Yorkshire Post - page 19 I think. In this article McCabe was putting the blame for much of the wasted money on previous managers who had the discretion to go and buy players they had themselves chosen, which led to knee jerk purchases and loans. (he actually cites the last jan transfer window as an example). He goes on to say this won't happen now, all prospective players will be scouted and tracked over a long period etc etc. I suspect (as someone else has said before) that Wier has little say in purchases. He is a coach not a maneger, expected (like Steve Clarke at WBA?) to get the players he is given to play and win.

So the question becomes is this the right approach for the club to be taking and is this coach with little experience the right person for the job?

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Presuming we can get any manager we want and pay him stupid wages who would you get out of interest?

I would rephrase the question slightly as we can't just get any manager we want and we wouldn't want to pay stupid wages. However, the goalposts have moved significantly since we set about recruiting a manager in the Summer.

1) We now have the funds to pay compensation to another club for the right man.
2) The club have stated that they won't need to sell their best players and will fight to keep them.
3) The manager will have significant, game-changing funding available to improve the first team (circa £20M?).
4) There is a realistic prospect of gaining promotion to The Premiership within five years.

Can anybody honestly say that if we were beginning the hunt for a new manager now with those criteria in place, that the best man to achieve our aims would be David Weir?

Here is a list of managers who in my opinion have a better track record than Weir, would offer us a greater prospect of success and may now be available as a realistic option to us:-

Gary Johnson
Eddie Howe
Russell Slade
Karl Robinson
Uwe Rosler
Phil Parkinson
Steve Davis
Steve Evans
Simon Grayson
Steven Pressley
Terry Butcher
Stuart McCall
Tony Pulis
Gus Poyet

With that in mind, I would now allow David Weir the chance to bring in 2 or 3 more loan players ASAP.
I would also allow him the option of choosing his own experienced "Consultant" to advise and mentor him.

He can't ask for any more support than that. If results and entertainment don't improve once he has signed 12 players and recruited a full backroom staff, then we surely have to recruit a better option in good time for the next crucial transfer window (I.e. December at the latest).

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

Everybody has a better track record than Weir, cos he aint got one.

Why not let the prince have a go? Can't be any worse. He knows his football, he said so. Could have a gold star scheme for playing well. 10 gold stars gets you a camel, 25 gold stars gets you a virgin. With the added bonus that Porter gets flogged by christmas. Then shipped off to the desert to count grains of sand.

 

[Torrix1889]

Jim White, January 1st 2014......"and the first action of the new transfer window is that Sheffield United have flogged Chris Porter"

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Is that you Raul, sneaking the name Tony Pulis into SBs list to get the Hoofwaffe creaming their pants?

 

[Pinchy]

Is that you Raul, sneaking the name Tony Pulis into SBs list to get the Hoofwaffe creaming their pants?

Steve Evans wouldn't have been there had we not lost to Rotherham on Saturday. Jerk those knees, boys...........

 

[shorehamview]

I'd get Pep Guardiola, or Jose, or anyone that I've heard of that's been on telly managing a football team.

But there are a few things to consider. The managers I'd really like won't come, because they are all flash and rather like big budgets, and European football, and being on telly. The other thing is that it's really got nowt to do with me, so for the moment we should stick with David Weir.

After all, you can only shit with the arse you've got.

There's no point wishing you were crimping one off with Kylie's pert nipsy, or curling one down from between J-Lo's broad cheeks when all you've got is a spotty Scottish bottom.

There will come a time when we need a new manager. Now isn't it. Weir needs time. In shitting parlance he's barely got his trollies down, never mind filled the chod bin, which still needs some scraping out from the previous occupant of the stall. Let him get settled. Let him unroll his copy of Exchange And Mart and get comfy in there. At least let his first turd splash down. Don't drag him off the khazi before the turtle has so much as reared it's head - he's barely felt it's breath on his leg.

 

[Swanseablade]

Fckn phones

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Steve Evans wouldn't have been there had we not lost to Rotherham on Saturday. Jerk those knees, boys...........

Personally I would say his six promotions as manager and nearly 700 games experience make him a better option than Weir rather than the way he out-thought our rookie in a one-off match.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

There's no point wishing you were crimping one off with Kylie's pert nipsy, or curling one down from between J-Lo's broad cheeks when all you've got is a spotty Scottish bottom.

Is this some erotic literature for Darren?