Naughton Race is Over :(

[Bladesman]

It's less about the money though and more about the staggering lack of ambition. Naughton being sold you can understand, but selling both our star homegrown rightback AND his heir apparent in the same deal is nothing short of unbelievable. Surely we're now going to have to invest at least some of that money in a new right back? What's the point?

And before anyone suggests Bromby playing there all season - no. Just no.

F**k Bromby playing right back.

 

[SwissBlade]

Whether you agree or disagree with McCabe/ Robinson/ Blackie, whether we agree/ disagree with the deal for the Kyles, the debate will go on.

But one things for sure, SUFC's handling and the PR around these two deals has been disasterous!

We really need to get things kicked into shape. Its happened several times in the past when the club say nothing and this allows the rumours to snowball, c'est la vie

Good luck to both players, things will be tough for them as Spurs won't have a reserve team this season, but I have faith that they can both make it in the PL and like Jags can make the senior England team one day. Honestly I'd have thought that the better deal for their development would have been in the North with a well run club and managed team like Everton. But what do I know!

Now we really need to plough all of the cash back into the team funds AND the Academy, not ground developments, the Tevez money can do for that and if not then the ground developments can wait.

We're officially a feeder club that has a loyal following so lets make sure we keep churning out the players from our factory. We know our place in the food chain despite the smoke and mirrors. If the lad from Tranmere and the other youngsters like Reid, Cotterill and Ward can form the basis of a semi decent team then i'll be happy this season. Perhaps one day in the future such talents can stay at the club for more than a season, but if not i'll enjoy seeing the odd excellent player mixed in amongst the triers, journeymen, has beens, never were's and never will be's.

Perhaps Killa will stay or perhaps we'll lose him too, who know's the club has a stance and if someone reaches that bar then he'll be off, until then he's a Blade at least. 120 yrs old this year, we just haven't evolved like some teams

Blackie's job has just been made more difficult with 2 weeks to go before the season starts! The summer sale at the lane will soon be forgotten if we don't start well people and people will get on his back. We'll see....

 

[La_Blade]

If what McCabe supposedly said about this deal is true, then Blackie has told him we have no chance of promotion without those two. Now i don't think that has to be the case if we find suitable replacements, but as matth says whats the point in selling em to spend the cash on replacing em. If we don't strengthen the defence we are taking a massive gamble on few injuries/suspensions. So we now need to strengthen GK (maybe) defense, midfield, and up front. At least when its 37000 capacity it'll look even worse when we start getting gates of 15000 though eh.

 

[Jimbo]

We really need to get things kicked into shape. Its happened several times in the past when the club say nothing and this allows the rumours to snowball, c'est la vie

Surely saying nothing to the press until the deal is done is better then talking sh*t constantly in the press (a-la W*dnesday's "Chairman")?

The rumours are started by and spread around in the press so how can our Board be blamed for this?

I'd much rather have a Board that did it's deals behind closed doors and didn't say a dickie bird to the press until it was signed and confirmed than one who spread sh*t around and commented on every rumour going!

 

[matth]

If they did one or the other then maybe that would be better. As it is, we veer wildly between blabbing our mouths off and saying nothing at all, which in turn helps to give rise to the rumours and innuendo that seem to surround all of our transfer dealings.

 

[Jimbo]

as matth says whats the point in selling em to spend the cash on replacing em.

Because a £5-6 mil rated Full Back is a luxury no Championship Club can afford, especially when there' a whole squad to strengthen! Plus if the rumours are to be believed then we'll be getting Walker back for another year anyway.

 

[Jimbo]

we veer wildly between blabbing our mouths off ...QUOTE]

Again, I don't mean to pick on everything you say mate, but when exactly have we blabbed our mouths off???

 

[SotonBlade]

I think the board need to look at how our transfers are dealt with. It's all wrong, there have been too many bad PR exercises linked to transfers recently, it needs an overhaul.

My first suggestion is to replace Turry

 

[matth]

The Leroy Lita incident and talking about the shutters coming down spring instantly to mind.

 

[SwissBlade]

Surely saying nothing to the press until the deal is done is better then talking sh*t constantly in the press (a-la W*dnesday's "Chairman")?

The rumours are started by and spread around in the press so how can our Board be blamed for this?

I'd much rather have a Board that did it's deals behind closed doors and didn't say a dickie bird to the press until it was signed and confirmed than one who spread sh*t around and commented on every rumour going!

The problem was that we DID say things and we allowed it to drag on for too long. I too would prefer a club that does deals behind closed doors, but this hasn't been behind closed doors. Both McCabe and Robinson have commented before the deals were done. McCabe even gave a public deadline and once that deadline passed didn't bother to make a further comment.

 

[SwissBlade]

Because a £5-6 mil rated Full Back is a luxury no Championship Club can afford, especially when there' a whole squad to strengthen! Plus if the rumours are to be believed then we'll be getting Walker back for another year anyway.

We didn't pay 5-6 million for them they came through the academy so were not luxuries. We could afford to keep them.

I'd rather we didn't get either back on loan now, we need to move on and repatch the holes from this summer

 

[matth]

Exactly. We don't lose anything by not selling them. And if we needed the money that bad, it's a good job someone was willing to pay that for them, or presumably we'd have been fucked.

 

[Jimbo]

Just cos they came through the Academy it doesn't make them any less of a luxury in a Championship Club. Yes, we COULD afford to keep them both, but given the choice between a couple of £5-6 mil rated Right Backs and an average strike force, or an average Right Back with a £5-6 mil rated strike force which would you pick???

Personally I'd go for the latter!

This is also not considering whether or not either (or both) of the Kyles had any interest in ever playing for us again once they knew Premiership Teams (with Premiership money) were sniffing around them. Would you have still thought so highly of them if they spend next season sulking over the money we stopped them earning?

 

[TonyAgana]

Exactly. We don't lose anything by not selling them. And if we needed the money that bad, it's a good job someone was willing to pay that for them, or presumably we'd have been fucked.

Either that or Blackwell knows EXACTLY how he wants to spend the money - presumably replacing what we had with better. Somehow doubt it, though.

 

[SotonBlade]

I think what has happened is that the deal's were concluded late last week, but the announcement has been delayed until we had deal's in place to 'placate' the fans soon after the sale announcement.

Just wait and see if a new signing(s) are annoucned within the next 12-18hours. It really wouldn't suprise me.

The annoucment of the Kyle's departure was almost synchronous on our site, spurs site and bbc.

 

[matth]

Just cos they came through the Academy it doesn't make them any less of a luxury in a Championship Club. Yes, we COULD afford to keep them both, but given the choice between a couple of £5-6 mil rated Right Backs and an average strike force, or an average Right Back with a £5-6 mil rated strike force which would you pick???

Personally I'd go for the latter!

This is also not considering whether or not either (or both) of the Kyles had any interest in ever playing for us again once they knew Premiership Teams (with Premiership money) were sniffing around them. Would you have still thought so highly of them if they spend next season sulking over the money we stopped them earning?

If you really want to pick my posts to pieces, at least get your facts right.

I've already said that selling one of the two perhaps made sense, financially if nothing else. No one will convince me that selling both makes sense at all.

And I'd rather go for a right back who can attack and get crosses in. If the chances are being created from the back, an average striker will score more goals.

 

[SotonBlade]

If the chances are being created from the back, an average striker will score more goals.

Even Billy Sharp??

 

[torridon]

I've already said that selling one of the two perhaps made sense, financially if nothing else. No one will convince me that selling both makes sense at all.


With you on this one.

 

[Come from away]

Yeah, because selling our two most promising young players is an act dripping in positivity, isn't it?

If you don't like my posts, don't read them. And if you want to paint everything as being wonderful, be my guest - but don't get at me for having a different point of view.

Thanks for your permission to keep posting, by the way. Appreciate it.

If you are prepared to dump on folk how come you are so sensitive? Seems like this deal that makes sense and is good for the club. Don't object to your views, just reacting (and thought I should share rather than just laugh at my screen). I guess most of the back and forth comes cause folk don't read what is writ, more 'read into' and that does include you (not just me and the gang). As has been said elsewhere it seems there is a tradition of folk who dump on the club and yet are constant fans. Can't quite get my head round it myself, but am willing to live and learn. Also, will continue to be a positivist which, despite more downs than ups, is how I approach the Blades.

 

[DazBlade88]

I've already said that selling one of the two perhaps made sense, financially if nothing else. No one will convince me that selling both makes sense at all.

Spot on that, mate.

What's frustrating me so much, is that we're loaning him back. Why, just... why?

If you're going to sell him, sell him. If you still want him, keep him. I think it's going to end up right back in our faces because if he has a good season, his value would have shot up.

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to sell and loan him back. Bring in somebody new and build the squad for the future.

 

[DazBlade88]

Either that or Blackwell knows EXACTLY how he wants to spend the money - presumably replacing what we had with better. Somehow doubt it, though.

Blackwell might know he wants to spend it, but like you, I doubt he'll be able to bring in better than what we've got.

He can't attract the better players. Whether it's his man management skills, or his lack of tactical knowledge, I don't know. This is the reason I want Speed to have a bigger role at the club, because he has the charisma to attract players.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post, sort it out if you can Linz/Foxy

 

[SwissBlade]

Blackwell might know he wants to spend it, but like you, I doubt he'll be able to bring in better than what we've got.

He can't attract the better players. Whether it's his man management skills, or his lack of tactical knowledge, I don't know. This is the reason I want Speed to have a bigger role at the club, because he has the charisma to attract players.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post, sort it out if you can Linz/Foxy

NW's best comment was always "I'll only bring in players that are better than what we have"

Blackie can't really use that after this summer as we have a load of sh*te left!

 

[Jimbo]

If you really want to pick my posts to pieces, at least get your facts right.

What facts have I got wrong exactly???
I've asked a question and stated my opinion!

Also, an average striker WONT neccessarily score lots of goals if there's a good defence creating the chances... if you need proof, please consult last season!

 

[Kev Gee]

Im just glad its over TBH. Why it was allowed to drag on & on is beyond me. & the Transfer policy at this club is disastrous. Should'nt we be shipping out the dead wood like the Hendries & Carneys of this world before we sell the crown jewels?

 

[Foxy]

the Transfer policy at this club is disastrous. Should'nt we be shipping out the dead wood like the Hendries & Carneys of this world before we sell the crown jewels?

Its far easier to sell players who clubs want and come in for. If you think they are dead wood, whats to say other managers don't?

 

[Kev Gee]

Its far easier to sell players who clubs want and come in for. If you think they are dead wood, whats to say other managers don't?

Then i go back to the Transfer policy. Its messed up!

 

[Jimbo]

Should'nt we be shipping out the dead wood like the Hendries & Carneys of this world before we sell the crown jewels?

Who's going to offer us £8-11 million for Hendrie and / or Carney?

 

[Kev Gee]

Who's going to offer us £8-11 million for Hendrie and / or Carney?

No-one. But if we got rid of those then we could offer the two kyles a better contract. makes sense?

 

[Foxy]

No-one. But if we got rid of those then we could offer the two kyles a better contract. makes sense?

and we get rid of those how? by paying them up? spending money to get rid of them?

 

[Jimbo]

No-one. But if we got rid of those then we could offer the two kyles a better contract. makes sense?

Yeah that makes perfect sense. But if selling the Kyles allows us to sign Killa on a better contract and sign a couple of good strikers then that makes sense (to me) too!