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Interesting views, an important win, but there was little quality from Utd, a very workmanlike performance, the team lacks pace & lacks someone who can control the game, I thought we won the game through hard work rather than footballing ability.

Early days, new team, but the wining goal was gifted - jury still out.
 



Interesting views, an important win, but there was little quality from Utd, a very workmanlike performance, the team lacks pace & lacks someone who can control the game, I thought we won the game through hard work rather than footballing ability.

Early days, new team, but the wining goal was gifted - jury still out.
We dominated the game.

Should have had a pen in 1st half.

Had more possession, corners, attempts. Most important scored 2 and got the points. All the points.

Staggering observation.

UTB
 
Should have had a pen in 1st half.

The Gillingham defender got the faintest of touches – thought it was a penalty in real-time, but on the replay looked correct. Freeman didn't appeal, the only one that did was Done who is more inclined to appeal for absolutely anything.
 
Mr. Long,

I know it's difficult to accept but your boy Calamity simply isn't good enough. Nowhere near. He'll end up in the Conference if he's lucky.

Do try to come to terms with it.
I'm right with you on Long, but lets be honest if we'd lost, and Long had made those errors, he'd have been scored a 5.

I'm not at all worried as he's young, progressing and is happy commanding the area. He also made a decent stop early on.

UTB
 
Yes, thought Freeman should have done better on the pen and took too long. There may have been a slight touch but it was clumsy. I have seen them given but also felt that I can see why the ref did not give it too.

I am surprised at people saying Lafferty did not do a lot wrong; he gave away 3 really bad fouls in dangerous positions and I felt gave it away quite a bit. He got up and down and made a few ok crosses (goal and Sharp header) but I expected better from him. He does seem a bit more steady than Hussey and positionally was better.

We will keep with that formation which wont be good news for Duffy and Chapman as not sure they will start if we do as I can see Fleck coming in for Duffy into the 3. I think EEL will come in for Wilson and Lavery for Done in the next few weeks.
 
The Gillingham defender got the faintest of touches – thought it was a penalty in real-time, but on the replay looked correct. Freeman didn't appeal, the only one that did was Done who is more inclined to appeal for absolutely anything.
I think a feature if the last few years is that we haven't appealed enough for decisions. Credit to Done if he is doing.
 
Watched the free kick again and unsure if O'Connell had got it even if he did jump up. It was a great free kick. The play in the build up was the problem. Wright lost his man and then a wild tackle from Lafferty when men were back..
 
The Gillingham defender got the faintest of touches – thought it was a penalty in real-time, but on the replay looked correct. Freeman didn't appeal, the only one that did was Done who is more inclined to appeal for absolutely anything.

Yes but he got a lot of Freeman before the ball. Definite spot-kick for me.
 
Interesting views, an important win, but there was little quality from Utd, a very workmanlike performance, the team lacks pace & lacks someone who can control the game, I thought we won the game through hard work rather than footballing ability.

Early days, new team, but the wining goal was gifted - jury still out.

Sleeper cell? ;)
 
Fairly accurate account of things other than an incredibly harsh review of Lafferty and Ebanks-Landell.

The former had a reasonable, yet unspectacular debut and the latter did very little wrong when he came on. I was happy with both.
 
I reckon sometimes you have to give credit, if that was a Sharpe free kick we would be going bonkers and saying what a great free kick, it was and just accept it, you can find fault with every goal and sometimes like the Southend game with good reason but today, nah just give Dac credit.
 
I think a feature if the last few years is that we haven't appealed enough for decisions. Credit to Done if he is doing.

I personally would have preferred him to ignore appealing and more quickly concentrate on pressing/getting the ball off Wright...
 
Mr. Long,

I know it's difficult to accept but your boy Calamity simply isn't good enough. Nowhere near. He'll end up in the Conference if he's lucky.

Do try to come to terms with it.
Did i at any point say Long WAS good enough?

I didn't..................
 
Fair report there DB,more or less how I saw it...I've also been critical of Bash,but he had a good game today great work rate and got box to box..He frustrates me at times though with the ball..one attack where we turned over possession first half and hit them on the break,he ran in to their half with the ball..and from a good position he gives the ball away with a crap pass and we lose possession in a good situation,but he didn't do a lot wrong to be fair.
Agree Freeman,Coutts and Bash were the stand outs for me...still room for improvement though.
 
Good work Deadbat.

For me:


Moore 8/10. Great one-on-one stop. Made the anticipation and spread himself. Was well positioned to take on their shots from range and his ball-drop was mostly because one of our players cut straight across his line-of sight as he was about to claim. Not to blame for the free kick. Looks (at this stage anyway) like a decent replacement for Long)

Freeman 7.5/10. Played well and created nuisance-factor against their flanking defenders, who barely got to our crossing zone because they were dropping to counter his threat. Although it was a good display, against a more organised opposition LB/LM combination, I’d say he’d have to track back and sit deep more, and we know he isn’t good at doing that.

Lafferty 5/10. Didn’t impress me with that lunge to give away the FK, but as DB said, that was a result of others switching off too. Still not much of a player to tell me he is what we need in that position. Also seemed to be disconnected with what our team were trying to do around him.

Wilson 5/10. Only just ‘5’. Maybe it’s because we are trialling the 3-at-the-back but he was the one who seemed ill at ease with this. Not a great showing but maybe it will improve.

Wright 7/10. I was more impressed in the second half when some minor changes were made and the back three weren’t backing off from Dack. Wright started to sit into the role then and even their big attacker looked frustrated because he was being outfought by the likes of Wright. He’ll be found out against a more nimble position forward two, mind.

O’Connell 7.5/10. The best of the back three. Looked like he was happy with that line up (even if it did show frailty at times)

Basham 6/10. Although we saw a lot of Basham, I still think he is at the absolute limit of his capability and that isn’t good enough for a lynchpin central midfielder who is meant to do all the donkey work and more importantly, make it count. He broke away in the second half with the ball and as he reached the half way line, was chased and dispossessed easily by Byrne, a bloke a good eight inches shorter than him and three stone lighter. Can we imagine Michael Brown (or even John Gannon, or Carl Bradshaw) suffering the same treatment? Basham is (as has been said) an enigma. He almost picks himself, and no one asks why? Today he worked hard,but there was nothing great to show for it. He needs to be moved on and this is our next target for improvement.

Coutts 8/10. On the other hand, Coutts has been the improvement we have needed. Last time I saw him ‘live’, he was invisible, this time he is well involved and his fetch and carry link play is effective. Starting to hope we keep hold of him and allow him to become the conduit through which much of the midfield play flows. Certainly today it seemed like that even if once it had passed him it became a bit confused.

Duffy 5/10. I wasn’t exactly sure what position Duffy was supposed to be occupying. He was al hustle and bustle, but the outcome was well ... pretty shit. The crosses were awful and his reading of the three or so players he is supposed to be connecting with was cack. One good whack at goal but it was really just where the keeper wants it for a television save. Disappointing.

Done 6/10. Strange, because Done is now playing in a position we signed him for, but his link work with Sharp is not at all good. Both players are basically the same product, except Done now has no end product in hitting the net. I can’t recall him taking a shot at all, he just ‘got stuck in’ but there wasn’t a run ‘at’ the defence or a time when I was out of my seat for him. I think the time spent filling the big boots of Murphy and Adams has killed his game, and that’s sad for him because I think he is an honest player.

Sharp 6/10. Really thing Billy is waiting for his purple patch and given no one puts it his way much, I don’t think it will ever come. Every ball put forward either has him chasing it into the corner or looking round to have someone to ‘give and go’ ... and that is where Duffy, Coutts and Basham aren’t there. He grafts and he tries, but it’s like ‘The Isle of Sharp’. Unless there’s a chance ball over (like against Oxford or Rochdale, and there was none of that from the wing today) he is left feeding off scraps. That is seriously bad for Sharp, even worse for Done. We need to find Billy Sharp and let him do what he does best with half a yard. It almost happened for him today, but that needs to happen five times in a game, not just once.


Ebanks Landell 5/10. Looks imposing, but fuck me he is so match rusty. Fifty pence head and thumping the ball all over the shop. Might improve and bed in once a firm system establishes at the back. I just hope all the negative comments coming from Wolves aren’t true about him.

Clarke 4/10. Only ‘4’, because I didn’t see much of him. He is though pretty basic and limited. He’s a typical centre forward type bloke, so it was frustrating to see him tangling for the ball over by the dugouts a few times. He should be making opposition defences shit their pants and defend, but without him to get the ball to, where are we to go? That cross that the kid handballed – I was watching it go over and expecting it to find the head of Clarke. He was nowhere near. That’s his ball. Against a kid like Pask, Clarke should be pulling his kecks down and nutting the ball in. That’s what I have seen him do in the past.


Good (not ‘great’) performance and a deserved win, given we dominated the first thirty (up to their goal) and much of the second half. Let’s not forget that Gillingham were largely shit and once Dack went off, they lost all impetus and direction and any attacking capability. But credit to Wilder and to the players - they came back from a goal down and got the win they and the fans needed. Another one on Saturday might restore some faith in that this isn’t a flash in the pan and the faults aren’t in there still. I could certainly do with seeing us further up the table.

pommpey
 



Think quite a few are being a little bit harsh on Duffy if i'm honest.

he didn't have a great game but i think he was certainly better than a 4.5 (my opinion)

- he was the only one of our players to have a shot on target for most of the first half with 2.
- He won the ball back in a dangerous position ran to the byline and played in sharp who probably should've scored.
- He set up the Leon Clarke chance when he made it to the byline and drilled it in but Clarke hit it wide into the advertising hoarding.
- He put Done in 1 on 1 with the keeper but Done couldn't bring it down and took a heavy touch that went out for a GK.

on another day he could've had 2 assists.

he reminds me of Stephen Quinn. Doesn't always work out but he never shies away from the ball and keeps trying and even if he's not having a great game. His attitude and determination still means he contributes somewhat.

I think as the squad starts to gel more he'll really come into his own. I'm predicting he'll be a key player this season.
 
Think you've been very critical of the new boys and done. Duffy had an off day but think he's a good player.

Done's work off the ball is arguably more important than his work on the ball IMO and allows sharp to get into positions whilst he presses the back line. I would go with both up front against Wimbledon

I thought Lafferty had a decent game myself. Duffy was poor though I agree. And Done seems to get more credit for what he does off the ball than on it! Not for me - I'd like to see him do something with the ball instead. I could send my Uncle Terry's whippet on the pitch and it would run around all over the place like Done does - but add nothing to the team. Get Lavery in that position and you'll see what we've been missing.
 
Disagree hugely with the lafferty assessment . He offered width and ability all game , he and freeman are very important in the way we play both were very good today at both ends of the pitch.
I thought he grew into the game. Looked good towards the end and started to show his quality. Decent debut when you consider he only joined us a couple of days ago.
 
Have to say that the new look Kieron Freeman (a skinhead haircut and a few pounds of additional muscle) looks good to me so far this season
 
Good work Deadbat.

For me:


Moore 8/10. Great one-on-one stop. Made the anticipation and spread himself. Was well positioned to take on their shots from range and his ball-drop was mostly because one of our players cut straight across his line-of sight as he was about to claim. Not to blame for the free kick. Looks (at this stage anyway) like a decent replacement for Long)

Freeman 7.5/10. Played well and created nuisance-factor against their flanking defenders, who barely got to our crossing zone because they were dropping to counter his threat. Although it was a good display, against a more organised opposition LB/LM combination, I’d say he’d have to track back and sit deep more, and we know he isn’t good at doing that.

Lafferty 5/10. Didn’t impress me with that lunge to give away the FK, but as DB said, that was a result of others switching off too. Still not much of a player to tell me he is what we need in that position. Also seemed to be disconnected with what our team were trying to do around him.

Wilson 5/10. Only just ‘5’. Maybe it’s because we are trialling the 3-at-the-back but he was the one who seemed ill at ease with this. Not a great showing but maybe it will improve.

Wright 7/10. I was more impressed in the second half when some minor changes were made and the back three weren’t backing off from Dack. Wright started to sit into the role then and even their big attacker looked frustrated because he was being outfought by the likes of Wright. He’ll be found out against a more nimble position forward two, mind.

O’Connell 7.5/10. The best of the back three. Looked like he was happy with that line up (even if it did show frailty at times)

Basham 6/10. Although we saw a lot of Basham, I still think he is at the absolute limit of his capability and that isn’t good enough for a lynchpin central midfielder who is meant to do all the donkey work and more importantly, make it count. He broke away in the second half with the ball and as he reached the half way line, was chased and dispossessed easily by Byrne, a bloke a good eight inches shorter than him and three stone lighter. Can we imagine Michael Brown (or even John Gannon, or Carl Bradshaw) suffering the same treatment? Basham is (as has been said) an enigma. He almost picks himself, and no one asks why? Today he worked hard,but there was nothing great to show for it. He needs to be moved on and this is our next target for improvement.

Coutts 8/10. On the other hand, Coutts has been the improvement we have needed. Last time I saw him ‘live’, he was invisible, this time he is well involved and his fetch and carry link play is effective. Starting to hope we keep hold of him and allow him to become the conduit through which much of the midfield play flows. Certainly today it seemed like that even if once it had passed him it became a bit confused.

Duffy 5/10. I wasn’t exactly sure what position Duffy was supposed to be occupying. He was al hustle and bustle, but the outcome was well ... pretty shit. The crosses were awful and his reading of the three or so players he is supposed to be connecting with was cack. One good whack at goal but it was really just where the keeper wants it for a television save. Disappointing.

Done 6/10. Strange, because Done is now playing in a position we signed him for, but his link work with Sharp is not at all good. Both players are basically the same product, except Done now has no end product in hitting the net. I can’t recall him taking a shot at all, he just ‘got stuck in’ but there wasn’t a run ‘at’ the defence or a time when I was out of my seat for him. I think the time spent filling the big boots of Murphy and Adams has killed his game, and that’s sad for him because I think he is an honest player.

Sharp 6/10. Really thing Billy is waiting for his purple patch and given no one puts it his way much, I don’t think it will ever come. Every ball put forward either has him chasing it into the corner or looking round to have someone to ‘give and go’ ... and that is where Duffy, Coutts and Basham aren’t there. He grafts and he tries, but it’s like ‘The Isle of Sharp’. Unless there’s a chance ball over (like against Oxford or Rochdale, and there was none of that from the wing today) he is left feeding off scraps. That is seriously bad for Sharp, even worse for Done. We need to find Billy Sharp and let him do what he does best with half a yard. It almost happened for him today, but that needs to happen five times in a game, not just once.


Ebanks Landell 5/10. Looks imposing, but fuck me he is so match rusty. Fifty pence head and thumping the ball all over the shop. Might improve and bed in once a firm system establishes at the back. I just hope all the negative comments coming from Wolves aren’t true about him.

Clarke 4/10. Only ‘4’, because I didn’t see much of him. He is though pretty basic and limited. He’s a typical centre forward type bloke, so it was frustrating to see him tangling for the ball over by the dugouts a few times. He should be making opposition defences shit their pants and defend, but without him to get the ball to, where are we to go? That cross that the kid handballed – I was watching it go over and expecting it to find the head of Clarke. He was nowhere near. That’s his ball. Against a kid like Pask, Clarke should be pulling his kecks down and nutting the ball in. That’s what I have seen him do in the past.


Good (not ‘great’) performance and a deserved win, given we dominated the first thirty (up to their goal) and much of the second half. Let’s not forget that Gillingham were largely shit and once Dack went off, they lost all impetus and direction and any attacking capability. But credit to Wilder and to the players - they came back from a goal down and got the win they and the fans needed. Another one on Saturday might restore some faith in that this isn’t a flash in the pan and the faults aren’t in there still. I could certainly do with seeing us further up the table.

pommpey
One thing I would say in Bashams defence there Pommpey is its a different game since Brown played ,even more Bradders ,you only have to breathe near a player now ,they go down get a free-kick and you get a yellow. Midfielders are restricted beyond belief and you wonder how many games Bradshaw would complete these days. Not for the better for me.
 
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One thing I would say in Bashams defence there Pommpey is its a different game since Brown played ,even more Bradders ,you only have to breathe near a player now ,they go down get a free-kick and you get a yellow. Midfielders are restricted beyond belief and you wonder how many games Bradshaw would complete these days. Not for the better for me.

Without a doubt. It's obvious Basham was being caught, but I couldn't imagine Bradders or Brown conceding possession quite so easily, which leads me to Basham's actual ability as a midfield player. The Gillingham player wouldn't have got near Brown and the ball would have been effectively shielded or the tackle prevented. The bloke just 'took the ball off him' and that points directly at other people's comments about him being lightweight for his size. See also McDonald, who wouldn't have gifted possession quite so easily and, if I may, even Doyle.

pommpey
 
Lafferty also put the cross in for the missed Sharp header(a sitter). Looks to have a good left peg.
I think it was Lafferty's initial cross with the outside of his foot for the equaliser as well wasn't it?

I think we need to cut him a bit of slack. He hasn't been figuring for Burnly this season so this was his first competitive game, and with a set of players that he only met on Friday. He might have only trained with them once so let's judge him after a few games.
 
Moore - 6 - excellent save from McDonald but flapped at a cross.
Wilson - 6 - not convincing but didn't make any real mistakes, we did look stronger when Ebanks-Landell replaced him though.
Wright - 7 - looked vulnerable in the first half but assured in the second, at home in the middle of a back three.
O'Connell - 8 - made a lot of good interceptions and dealt with everything he had to, cleared it well, good with the ball too, at home on the left of a back three.
Freeman - 8 - physically and technically better than his opponent all game, solid, kept the ball and got a goal.
Lafferty - 6 - looks like he knows how to defend, made us solid on the left, not bad on the ball but could've done better in the final third, gave away free kicks.
Basham - 7 - made a lot of good tackles, OK on the ball. Important player in that midfield, need his legs and defensive ability.
Coutts - 7.5 - showed some tenacity, kept the ball well as usual, stayed quite deep and kept it quite simple. Most assured player on the pitch.
Duffy - 7 - seems to have been rated poorly but I remember the contributions to our attacking moves more than the poor end product, he was also reliable in our own third of the pitch. Would've had an assist if Sharp could finish.
Done - 6.5 - got better as the game went on, was stretching their defence and I think Sharp should've been taken off instead.
Sharp - 6 - missed at least two very good chances which could've cost us on another day, he really has to start taking them. Looked lively in the second half.

Ebanks-Landell - 6.5 - we looked more solid with him on and he dealt with everything he had to, didn't think he got enough distance on his headers though.
Clarke - 6 - gave them something to think about, won headers, gave us a focal point.
Scougall - only got a few minutes, should've probably replaced Duffy earlier as he tired.
 
think the markins by deadbat on lafferty and duffy

thought lafferty kept us moving forward and though duffy's distribution was poor the both of them won us the ball back on many occasions giving us the upper hand
its what we have been missing , the ruthless hunting down of the ball when the opposition had it
still very raw squad but the progress is gathering apace , odd errors are certain to happen and the soft free kicks will lessen as they evolve
 
Done 6/10 – As ever tried really hard. NEver stopped and tried to get on the end of things or make runs for the midfield but often his touch came off him or it did not stick. A trier but ultimately I am not sure he is good enough and think bot Clarke and Lavery will probably play more than him moving forward. He does make defenders run around a lot though and that sometimes gives space to others but quality wise he is lacking. Did not really link with Sharp either.



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I thought despite looking technically limited, Done was far more effective alongside Sharp than he has been out wide or indeed than Clarke has been alongside Sharp. He did a lot of selfless running off the ball and regularly offered an out-ball down the channels to get us on the front foot. His pressing helped us win the ball high up the pitch a few times too. I’d be tempted to stick with him for the foreseeable future with Clarke/ Lavery trying to earn a place by impressing from the bench. The work he gets through means he’s knackered by the 65-70 minute mark which means there should always be an opportunity for Clarke or Lavery to come on and try to make an impact.


I thought we looked better with the 352. We controlled the game more and it allowed us to play through the thirds rather than lumping it which meant we coped better with playing 2 smaller strikers as we could play through balls to the channels and turn their defence. This is something Adkins did to try to get the best out of the Sharp/Adams partnership and on occasions it looked like it could work with tweaks to the personnel. The downside is that having 3 at the back, you can dominate possession for a long period but be picked off on the break (think Rochdale away last season). With the personnel we have though, I’m more than happy for us to stick with it.
 
Agreed mostly with your comments .... I was an armchair watcher on Sunday so saw the game on TV.

Thought you were a little harsh on Lafferty though ...... he did look "rusty" but on first appearance looks an upgrade on Hussy tbh. Interesting to see how he looks after say 3 or 4 more games.

I thought that Duffy was poor as well ..... little pace, 1 shot straight at the keeper and I've seen nothing yet so far this season to suggest that he deserves a place in the 1st team.

Important three points though and the first "decent" performance really from the team. If they had played like that against Rochdale & Southend then I think that we would be 4 points better off !!

UTB & FTP
 
What formation did we play? I see we played wing backs but in what kind of system?
 



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