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Agree with most of your marks for the starting players though I thought McB and Sharp both looked really good when they came on. McBurnie seemed to be doing a whole lot of flicks and tricks down the right that mostly came off to beat his man. Felt like Billy and Bash both gave about 350% and Billy was really close to setting up McB to pull one back.
 

Not sure I agree with some of the ratings. Baldock and Berge stoodd about, backing off and off, no challenge on Grealish for the pass on third goal. Grealish actually managed to lay off the ball most of the time, as there was no challenge from Baldock often.
Jebbison was unlucky with the penalty. We have huge problems in front of goal if we don't get two goalscorers in.
Midfield is a real weak area, full upgrades needed on most of the staff there. Yesterday in the first half most of the service to Jebbison was a long ball miles away from him, as there was no running with the ball from the midfield, no trickery. Berge did not fulfil his ability by backing up the strikers there.
The defence were excellent aside from the goals.
Baldock gave a lesson in exactly what you should do against grealish. Stand him up and let him worry about what to do.

Put a challenge in, he dances past and you end up giving a foul away.

He did his job, its the others not tracking runners that didn't.
 
Baldock gave a lesson in exactly what you should do against grealish. Stand him up and let him worry about what to do.

Put a challenge in, he dances past and you end up giving a foul away.

He did his job, its the others not tracking runners that didn't.

Yep. Baldock simply let Grealish make the first move and stood off him a bit. His body posture didn't give him either the wing or the inside channel to run at. I think he only properly got past him once.

pommpey
 
Great report Pommpey.We did not get hammered. Berge was great in the first half. pleased to see Halland dint do too much however Mahrez scored a great hat trick for City. makes you wonder what if Ndiaye had taken that early chance what would have happened. but never mind. we can now concentrate on the more important game against West Brom at the lane this coming midweek.UTB.
 
Great to see the lads yesterday in a game we weren't expected to do anything more than show up- and we gave much more than that..

Good that Pomps report did not aim criticism at anybody- it was a great team effort. Yes -a couple of errors cost us goals but what the hell. Anybody who never made a mistake - never made anything. Lets get this promotion wrapped up this week and look forward to next season after one where the whole club ( inc. fans) pulled together to make it a journey to remember. Keep the faith.
 
Disappointed of course, but not too much considering who we were up against, thought the lads and the fans did us proud, and lets face it I doubt we would be where we are now in the league table without the help of their loan players.
And to be honest if I had to choose between an FA cup final and Promotion I would selfishly choose Promotion every time....... 👍 👍 👍
 
Just back from the gig. Was basically starting the van up as the final whistle went. Fucking stupid time for a kick off.

Overall we didn't crumble, capitulate or disgrace ourselves, our brilliant supporters, or the club. For large parts of that game one of the best sides in Europe or even the world, stuffed with really fucking great players struggled to break us down and the levels of concentration and commitment were possibly the best I have seen us have for some time. Whether it was Wembley itself, the occasion of the late stages of the FA Cup or just the will not to be bummed like Burnley (there you go Fallowfield, you can have that) or even all three in parts, I thing the players today did us proud. Sure, there were errors, but faced with players who will destroy you through those errors we have learned valuable lessons today and ones which spell out where a PL season is in terms of what we need and what system we need to play to survive.

From the off we could have shocked them. NDaiye with a sitter and later on we went close again and later still in the first half broke cleanly only for the usually magical NDaiye to lose control. But elsewhere the midfield held firm and the defence were pretty fucking excellent to be honest. Football Robot Haaland was pretty anonymous (Arsenal, take note) and Grealish was smudged out by the attentive Baldock. Okay, Citeh kept players like KDB benched because they'll need him on Wednesday but face it Blades, that aint much to carp about. We were eventually undone by naivety which was a shame. City are deserved winners - they are better than us and the scoreline proved it, but we didn't give in without characteristic battling.

Foderingham 7.5/10: Couple of good stops in the game but no chance with any of Mharez's hat-trick. Every goal was a lesson in finishing.
Baldock 8/10: Snuffed much of what Grealish and Palmer had to offer out completely. Stayed on his feet and didn't over commit and made both players look backwards rather than take him on
Anel 7.5/10: Stuck like glue to Haaland which is what his brief should have been
Egan 7/10: Not a bad game at all save for his daft hesitancy when Mharez ran through. With Robbo facing the other way and expecting the layoff, it was Egan's job to deck Mharez and buy the yellow card
JLT 7.5/10: Typical blood and guts performance with some errors but overall can't fault him after that
Lowe 5/10: Mharez was his man and in a game like this, Lowe needed to firstly not be so dumb as to give up possession to him but secondly not allow him so much room out wide or to score his third. Errors that cost us.
Berge 7.5/10: First half put himself about and got past players but less so in the second as we fell behind
Norwood 7.5/10: Not a bad game for him, save for some iffy headers and passes. Did his best with Gundughan, but clearly the City player was better. See also SIlva.
Fleck 7/10: Surprisingly good and energetic in the first half but faded in the second. The gulf in class became increasingly evident
NDaiye 7/10: They were 'aware' of him raher than feared him although massive chance early doors to make our mark was missed. No chances after that which said it all really.
Jebbison 5/10: Poor challenge in the box and really quite ineffective

McBurnie 5/10: Nothing to offer. Totally overshadowed
Sharp 5/10 Came on for Fleck as we switched to 3-4-3 and tried ... but poor old fella is slowing up
Basham 7/10: Another old feller but this bloke's footballing nous is second to none
Bogle 5/10: On to rest Baldock and just make up numbers
Coullibally 5/10 Ditto above but a bit weak and naïve at times

HJ&SMcC 10/10: For getting us this far and sticking out a team which did us proud. Now, let's got get the promotion we deserve.

pommpey

Good report - think I've been more harsh - did try and consider the oppo but generally agreed. Lowe and Jebbo weak links. Berge, Egan and Baldock best 3. Anel ok too. I actually thought Norwood faded badly as did Fleck so knocked of a mark from yours.


Generally agree with much of what you said.


It shows the reality is we have about 4 or 5 starters really and the rest needs to be upgraded for us to have a chance of staying up. Maybe RND gets fit and we push to 5 or 6.

It showed Baldock, Egan, Anel and Ndiaye can probably be fine at the higher level.

We need a GK, LCB, 2 CM's and 1 CF to start.

Likes of Norwood, Wes, McBurnie, Robinson, Bogle maybe even Jebbo/Osula (but think those two go out on loan) ok as bench type options but others like Lowe, Coulibaly (granted limited time but not stood out even in this) and sadly even Sharp/Bash not really up to it at top level anymore. Brewster I am not convinced will be fit consistently and also needs a loan and game time - he was way off Premier LEague standard before.

I'd expect Fleck, Stevens and Osborn to move on too.

So you are looking at 5 starters - 6 if RND not back/not quite up to it and probably about 5 or 6 others for the bench/back up. 10-12 players is not too indfferent to Forest is it not but we dont have the monety to do this if you think 10 million for even a squad type player (we paid 3 or 4 for Osborn and that was 4 years ago and he was/is nowhere near the standard).


Not sure where we find 150 million+ from to sign them when a fair chunk will be used to pay off existing debts?

Scary stuff but also we need to ensure financially we keep stable even if we do come flying back down. I'd rather use the money on a new academy/training ground and the scouting infastructure (like Brentford/Brighton model) to improve our recruitment model. Sounds negative but long term will help. Signing another Brewster, Berge and Ramsdale is not going to happen. We won't be able to afford likes of Gykores, Henderson etc despite people saying these are possibles. We might get a few from other Champ clubs that we can pick off but won't be stand outs - outside of Burnley - how many really good players are better at this level than the ones I am saying are not good enough - Robbo, Norwood, McBurnie etc? That's the reality. We need to sign young and up and comers that can improve.
 
sorry pommp for once i have to disagree with you no way was fleck a 7/10 never got near citys midfield i wouldnt go higher than 4 also wouldnt have given lowe even 5 he was awful both him and bogle not good enough for premier league next season get rid baldock and rnd will be our first choice wingbacks in the prem
 
All in all we did ok and up to conceding the penalty had looked reasonably assured against next European Champions.
After that we were never really in the game , we didn’t embarrass ourselves but weren’t competitive either & shows just what need to do if we we want to be regular fixtures in the top division.
Had a decent weekend & a good laugh before the game down in The Met on Bsker St & bumped into a few faces I haven’t seen for a while , suppose we had the last laugh too with all the pig fans sat there waiting to post there cricket score ‘funnies’ on social media were sadly disappointed.
Might be the last FA Cup Semi were involved in for a good while & never thought I’d be lucky enough to see us in 5 .
Anyway back to business on Weds & let’s finish off the job ⚔️
 
Yep. Baldock simply let Grealish make the first move and stood off him a bit. His body posture didn't give him either the wing or the inside channel to run at. I think he only properly got past him once.

pommpey
I was watching this quite closely in the first half as it was right in front of where I was sat. Baldock and Berge doubled up on Grealish as soon as he had the ball. This mostly ensured Grealish had to pass back inside to Silva, which meant Berge had to quickly switch to Silva but it really did work on stopping the supply into the box. The 3rd goal was at the opposite end and haven't watched it back so not sure what happened there.
 
I enjoy your posts and agree usually with you. Glad you resisted the temptation to get stuck into a couple of them and took the opposition and event into account.

thanks again for the toilet humour and analysis over the year. Not quite Deadbat analysis but more entertaining. Keep it going.
I like the fact there are two reports but which are totally contrasting.

I know Deadbat and Webding have fun on the pod but the match reports are more in line with what good old Tony Pritchett used to produce in the Green ‘Un, including the scorer part in bold!

pommpey gives his own Roger Mellie-esquenversion which makes salient points but with a dollop of humour.

All a compelling part of the weekly ritual. You’ll be missed when it comes to pre-season. Hopefully you still stick some posts on there during the break.

Thanks to you both anyhow. Keep up the good work 👍
 
A positive that hasn’t been mentioned is that N’Dieye did very little when in the spotlight.

This helps him keep his feet on the ground and keeps him under the PL biased radar meaning there’s less chance of any other PL club offering him over £50K a week.

Due to the lack of big offers, his agent might decide it’s best if he accepts our £25K a week offer.
 
If we are into saving some money now and the run in to next season we have to evaluate who are the people to weed out and move on;_

For example;-
The long term sick/injured:
Brewster
O Connell
RND

The Over the Hill Gang.:-
Sharp
Fleck

The just not there people;-
Bogle
Osborn

Anybody else.????
 

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