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Yet another 'dirty win' against a team resoundingly bummed up the bum last time out by our nearest promotion rivals. The game tonight made both teams look very much like they were within one place of each other down the bottom of the league than where they actually are. All over the pitch United are failing to fire on all cylinders and dominate weaker teams like Reading. I'm not saying we should be whupping them 4 or 5-0 at the Madjeski (although really, it would restore some confidence in fans that we will go up in the autos) but we should be at least more than a solitary goal from nowhere up and playing out the final minutes high up in their half with them looking beaten rather than defending and 'thank fuck'ing the final whistle. Many on shoutbox and elsewhere noted we were 'well on top' in the first half hour but that masks the reality that although we seemed to be, we actually created fucking nowt. We're great at 'possession football' in phases. It's almost as if the brief is to keep the ball in the centre third and don't dare to attack their goal. It's indicative of a few things. One is that this team is stuffed still with legacy players who don't know anything different than Wilderball. The second is that no one bar Basham and NDaiye knows how to make use of the space in front of them. Everything has to be passed back and forth like some fucking extended training drill. Unless its at the feet of NDaiye it aint gonna trouble their defence. Crossing and through balls, cracks from distance and just 'well worked goals' are out of the question. We seem scared to gamble and instead pass it endlessly this way and that boring the arse of everyone. Reading were abject tonight and you could see exactly how Boro destroyed them at the Riverside on Satdi. They went at their weaknesses. Tonight they played 5-2-3 at one stage and still our midfield looked fucking outnumbered. Great to still maintain seven points but coming up we have Luton at the Lane whereas Boro visit a shambolic Swansea. Put in a performance like we did tonight (and let's hope NDaiye is okay) and that seven points once again gets squeaky-bum again. Hecky needs to get us consistently at oppositions and trying efforts and gambling a bit. The passing and positionals tonight also need tightening. The back three tonight, although coping, were seriously under the cosh. And for fuck's sake, where is Jebbison and Doyle?

Foderingham 6/10: Decent tip over from Carroll. Some questionable distribution in the first half
Bogle 4/10: Shambolic and off-key performance from him tonight. very Kozluk-like with his crossing too
Basham 6/10: Blood (literally) and guts from him but he's showing his limitations at times. Still able to carry the ball forward into space, which makes a fucking change
Egan 6/10: Bullied and battered by Carroll for much of the game which is par for the course for Egan. He's a decent centre back and gets his head in but aerially he's powderpuff against big strong centre forwards
JLT 6.5/10: Another committed if spoon-footed game for Jacky boy. No long throws either?
Lowe 5/10: Timid. That word just about sums him up.
Berge 4/10: Marginally better game in a deeper role. Strolled around with the ball and looked capable, but wasn't.
Norwood 4/10: Poor game and reversion for him against a numerically inferior midfield where you'd imagine him to be bossing the game and winning it for us.
McAtee 3/10: Thought he was outmuscled and weak tonight. He epitomised where tonight's game, although won on goals, was lost on the pitch.
NDaiye 7/10: Our only outlet and our only ball winner. Well worked for and taken goal. Hope the flying fuck his hip injury isn't bad because he is the only way we get promoted now if Hecky doesn't switch on and start getting us engaged to win the game from start to finish
McBurnie 6.5/10: Worked very hard to get and remain with the attack but tended to shithouse a bit. Well worked for the setup for NDaiye's goal

Baldock 5/10: Added marginally more than Bogle down on the right
Sharp 5/10: Usual hustle and bustle and dug in to set Reading back, but he's running out of steam as we run out of options
Fleck 4/10: Didn't see what he brought to the outfield play or much of him in the game either. Pointless and indeed wrong substitution

We still have so much to do now and indeed over the next six months to justify going up. Beating Reading tonight was good, but it was wholly unconvincing that without NDaiye we are rudderless and beatable. We have far too many player with us still with their heads in Division One and not moved on or out when the right time - on relegation - was apparent and when we could have and should have changed. The trouble is that if we go up we WILL have to change or we will be smashed week in, week out. We will have to get shut of a good 40-50% of the current squad and buy big to replace them and change entirely the way we play - Wilderball without any of the good bits. It's heartening we are still in the chase but we remain fragile and fraught and the confidence is brittle. Maybe a dropping of Berge for once and Doyle/Norwood at R/LDM with McB and Jebbo as frontmen and NDaiye as No 10 could be better. Whatever happens, we are going to the fucking wire with this. Strap yourselves in.

pommpey
 

Yet another 'dirty win' against a team resoundingly bummed up the bum last time out by our nearest promotion rivals. The game tonight made both teams look very much like they were within one place of each other down the bottom of the league than where they actually are. All over the pitch United are failing to fire on all cylinders and dominate weaker teams like Reading. I'm not saying we should be whupping them 4 or 5-0 at the Madjeski (although really, it would restore some confidence in fans that we will go up in the autos) but we should be at least more than a solitary goal from nowhere up and playing out the final minutes high up in their half with them looking beaten rather than defending and 'thank fuck'ing the final whistle. Many on shoutbox and elsewhere noted we were 'well on top' in the first half hour but that masks the reality that although we seemed to be, we actually created fucking nowt. We're great at 'possession football' in phases. It's almost as if the brief is to keep the ball in the centre third and don't dare to attack their goal. It's indicative of a few things. One is that this team is stuffed still with legacy players who don't know anything different than Wilderball. The second is that no one bar Basham and NDaiye knows how to make use of the space in front of them. Everything has to be passed back and forth like some fucking extended training drill. Unless its at the feet of NDaiye it aint gonna trouble their defence. Crossing and through balls, cracks from distance and just 'well worked goals' are out of the question. We seem scared to gamble and instead pass it endlessly this way and that boring the arse of everyone. Reading were abject tonight and you could see exactly how Boro destroyed them at the Riverside on Satdi. They went at their weaknesses. Tonight they played 5-2-3 at one stage and still our midfield looked fucking outnumbered. Great to still maintain seven points but coming up we have Luton at the Lane whereas Boro visit a shambolic Swansea. Put in a performance like we did tonight (and let's hope NDaiye is okay) and that seven points once again gets squeaky-bum again. Hecky needs to get us consistently at oppositions and trying efforts and gambling a bit. The passing and positionals tonight also need tightening. The back three tonight, although coping, were seriously under the cosh. And for fuck's sake, where is Jebbison and Doyle?

Foderingham 6/10: Decent tip over from Carroll. Some questionable distribution in the first half
Bogle 4/10: Shambolic and off-key performance from him tonight. very Kozluk-like with his crossing too
Basham 6/10: Blood (literally) and guts from him but he's showing his limitations at times. Still able to carry the ball forward into space, which makes a fucking change
Egan 6/10: Bullied and battered by Carroll for much of the game which is par for the course for Egan. He's a decent centre back and gets his head in but aerially he's powderpuff against big strong centre forwards
JLT 6.5/10: Another committed if spoon-footed game for Jacky boy. No long throws either?
Lowe 5/10: Timid. That word just about sums him up.
Berge 4/10: Marginally better game in a deeper role. Strolled around with the ball and looked capable, but wasn't.
Norwood 4/10: Poor game and reversion for him against a numerically inferior midfield where you'd imagine him to be bossing the game and winning it for us.
McAtee 3/10: Thought he was outmuscled and weak tonight. He epitomised where tonight's game, although won on goals, was lost on the pitch.
NDaiye 7/10: Our only outlet and our only ball winner. Well worked for and taken goal. Hope the flying fuck his hip injury isn't bad because he is the only way we get promoted now if Hecky doesn't switch on and start getting us engaged to win the game from start to finish
McBurnie 6.5/10: Worked very hard to get and remain with the attack but tended to shithouse a bit. Well worked for the setup for NDaiye's goal

Baldock 5/10: Added marginally more than Bogle down on the right
Sharp 5/10: Usual hustle and bustle and dug in to set Reading back, but he's running out of steam as we run out of options
Fleck 4/10: Didn't see what he brought to the outfield play or much of him in the game either. Pointless and indeed wrong substitution

We still have so much to do now and indeed over the next six months to justify going up. Beating Reading tonight was good, but it was wholly unconvincing that without NDaiye we are rudderless and beatable. We have far too many player with us still with their heads in Division One and not moved on or out when the right time - on relegation - was apparent and when we could have and should have changed. The trouble is that if we go up we WILL have to change or we will be smashed week in, week out. We will have to get shut of a good 40-50% of the current squad and buy big to replace them and change entirely the way we play - Wilderball without any of the good bits. It's heartening we are still in the chase but we remain fragile and fraught and the confidence is brittle. Maybe a dropping of Berge for once and Doyle/Norwood at R/LDM with McB and Jebbo as frontmen and NDaiye as No 10 could be better. Whatever happens, we are going to the fucking wire with this. Strap yourselves in.

pommpey

Pretty sure you gave the team better marks vs Blackburn which was one of the worst halves of away football this season... than you have for tonights game.

I get that Blackburn are better than Reading but we lost everything including our heads against Blackburn.

Tonight while far from great was a much better controlled game.
 
Read the report and think it's harsh
We came to win and won it

Wasn't pretty but was pretty efficient
All Fods had to do was palm over one Carroll header straight at him

We outlasted them out shot them and not one yellow card
Clean sheet so clean it won't need ironing

1-0 wins are underrated. Liverpool and man utd grew to greatness on them
Great pass from Bogle to mcb for the goal worthy of another full point
 
Shoring up the midfield is paramount during the run. A 4 man midfield and a lone striker should help. Winning 1-0 is great but we arent scaring anyone. Nobody will come to the lane feeling they are one or two down before a ball has been kicked. It is going to be squeaky bum time for a while
 
Main thing tonight was getting the result after 3 defeats in 4 and the spotlight firmly fixed on us and thankfully we got it .
It was no classic and first half although solid defensively we were creating anything either with only Berge’s effort from outside the box our only real effort on target and had all the hallmarks of 0-0 or a game decided by a set piece .
Second half thought we played better and the goal coming from probably the only piece of quality in the game , credit to McBurnie for the run & pull back for Illy.
From back to front Wes & 3 centre backs solid against Carroll’s obvs aerial presence .
Wingbacks better than Saturday & certainly more diligent in there defensive duties.
Midfield did ok , needed to get McAtee further forward but still held the ball well for us , Berge had a better game breaking play up without really pushing on , Norwood ok .
Illy & Oli linked up well when they got service which something that’s dried up with us recently & obviously got us the points .
Hard fought , dogged and important 3 points but in truthfulness we’ll need to better in games ahead , but puts the ball back in Boros court again .
Bring on Saturday.. UTB ⚔️
 
We scare teams because we keep finding ways of taking 3 points off them. I'm sure Luton will be wary on Saturday

Can't compare our beating Reading 1-0 to boros 5 -0 ..boro were at home.
I mention it because Reading beat boro 1-0 at home

So our horrible 3 points there was 3 more than boro got
 
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An Ugly , Bastard Horrible away win ,
Think we’re seeing the limitations to players in our team
Bash god bless the man but he’s on a downward slope ,
Lowe is going backwards at an alarming rate , with Bogle in the passenger seat ,
I’d rather not comment on Berge , it’s painful not only to watch but to comment on his performances lately
Anel -Baldock-Doyle have to be in the team on satdi
All 3 drive us forward , which is sadly missing when compared to our early season displays
We should have taken the money for Berge
And got Archer -O’Brien in
We’re still going up but we’re not making it easy on ourselves
 
Yet another 'dirty win' against a team resoundingly bummed up the bum last time out by our nearest promotion rivals. The game tonight made both teams look very much like they were within one place of each other down the bottom of the league than where they actually are. All over the pitch United are failing to fire on all cylinders and dominate weaker teams like Reading. I'm not saying we should be whupping them 4 or 5-0 at the Madjeski (although really, it would restore some confidence in fans that we will go up in the autos) but we should be at least more than a solitary goal from nowhere up and playing out the final minutes high up in their half with them looking beaten rather than defending and 'thank fuck'ing the final whistle. Many on shoutbox and elsewhere noted we were 'well on top' in the first half hour but that masks the reality that although we seemed to be, we actually created fucking nowt. We're great at 'possession football' in phases. It's almost as if the brief is to keep the ball in the centre third and don't dare to attack their goal. It's indicative of a few things. One is that this team is stuffed still with legacy players who don't know anything different than Wilderball. The second is that no one bar Basham and NDaiye knows how to make use of the space in front of them. Everything has to be passed back and forth like some fucking extended training drill. Unless its at the feet of NDaiye it aint gonna trouble their defence. Crossing and through balls, cracks from distance and just 'well worked goals' are out of the question. We seem scared to gamble and instead pass it endlessly this way and that boring the arse of everyone. Reading were abject tonight and you could see exactly how Boro destroyed them at the Riverside on Satdi. They went at their weaknesses. Tonight they played 5-2-3 at one stage and still our midfield looked fucking outnumbered. Great to still maintain seven points but coming up we have Luton at the Lane whereas Boro visit a shambolic Swansea. Put in a performance like we did tonight (and let's hope NDaiye is okay) and that seven points once again gets squeaky-bum again. Hecky needs to get us consistently at oppositions and trying efforts and gambling a bit. The passing and positionals tonight also need tightening. The back three tonight, although coping, were seriously under the cosh. And for fuck's sake, where is Jebbison and Doyle?

Foderingham 6/10: Decent tip over from Carroll. Some questionable distribution in the first half
Bogle 4/10: Shambolic and off-key performance from him tonight. very Kozluk-like with his crossing too
Basham 6/10: Blood (literally) and guts from him but he's showing his limitations at times. Still able to carry the ball forward into space, which makes a fucking change
Egan 6/10: Bullied and battered by Carroll for much of the game which is par for the course for Egan. He's a decent centre back and gets his head in but aerially he's powderpuff against big strong centre forwards
JLT 6.5/10: Another committed if spoon-footed game for Jacky boy. No long throws either?
Lowe 5/10: Timid. That word just about sums him up.
Berge 4/10: Marginally better game in a deeper role. Strolled around with the ball and looked capable, but wasn't.
Norwood 4/10: Poor game and reversion for him against a numerically inferior midfield where you'd imagine him to be bossing the game and winning it for us.
McAtee 3/10: Thought he was outmuscled and weak tonight. He epitomised where tonight's game, although won on goals, was lost on the pitch.
NDaiye 7/10: Our only outlet and our only ball winner. Well worked for and taken goal. Hope the flying fuck his hip injury isn't bad because he is the only way we get promoted now if Hecky doesn't switch on and start getting us engaged to win the game from start to finish
McBurnie 6.5/10: Worked very hard to get and remain with the attack but tended to shithouse a bit. Well worked for the setup for NDaiye's goal

Baldock 5/10: Added marginally more than Bogle down on the right
Sharp 5/10: Usual hustle and bustle and dug in to set Reading back, but he's running out of steam as we run out of options
Fleck 4/10: Didn't see what he brought to the outfield play or much of him in the game either. Pointless and indeed wrong substitution

We still have so much to do now and indeed over the next six months to justify going up. Beating Reading tonight was good, but it was wholly unconvincing that without NDaiye we are rudderless and beatable. We have far too many player with us still with their heads in Division One and not moved on or out when the right time - on relegation - was apparent and when we could have and should have changed. The trouble is that if we go up we WILL have to change or we will be smashed week in, week out. We will have to get shut of a good 40-50% of the current squad and buy big to replace them and change entirely the way we play - Wilderball without any of the good bits. It's heartening we are still in the chase but we remain fragile and fraught and the confidence is brittle. Maybe a dropping of Berge for once and Doyle/Norwood at R/LDM with McB and Jebbo as frontmen and NDaiye as No 10 could be better. Whatever happens, we are going to the fucking wire with this. Strap yourselves in.

pommpey
You read my mind.
 
Yet another 'dirty win' against a team resoundingly bummed up the bum last time out by our nearest promotion rivals. The game tonight made both teams look very much like they were within one place of each other down the bottom of the league than where they actually are. All over the pitch United are failing to fire on all cylinders and dominate weaker teams like Reading. I'm not saying we should be whupping them 4 or 5-0 at the Madjeski (although really, it would restore some confidence in fans that we will go up in the autos) but we should be at least more than a solitary goal from nowhere up and playing out the final minutes high up in their half with them looking beaten rather than defending and 'thank fuck'ing the final whistle. Many on shoutbox and elsewhere noted we were 'well on top' in the first half hour but that masks the reality that although we seemed to be, we actually created fucking nowt. We're great at 'possession football' in phases. It's almost as if the brief is to keep the ball in the centre third and don't dare to attack their goal. It's indicative of a few things. One is that this team is stuffed still with legacy players who don't know anything different than Wilderball. The second is that no one bar Basham and NDaiye knows how to make use of the space in front of them. Everything has to be passed back and forth like some fucking extended training drill. Unless its at the feet of NDaiye it aint gonna trouble their defence. Crossing and through balls, cracks from distance and just 'well worked goals' are out of the question. We seem scared to gamble and instead pass it endlessly this way and that boring the arse of everyone. Reading were abject tonight and you could see exactly how Boro destroyed them at the Riverside on Satdi. They went at their weaknesses. Tonight they played 5-2-3 at one stage and still our midfield looked fucking outnumbered. Great to still maintain seven points but coming up we have Luton at the Lane whereas Boro visit a shambolic Swansea. Put in a performance like we did tonight (and let's hope NDaiye is okay) and that seven points once again gets squeaky-bum again. Hecky needs to get us consistently at oppositions and trying efforts and gambling a bit. The passing and positionals tonight also need tightening. The back three tonight, although coping, were seriously under the cosh. And for fuck's sake, where is Jebbison and Doyle?

Foderingham 6/10: Decent tip over from Carroll. Some questionable distribution in the first half
Bogle 4/10: Shambolic and off-key performance from him tonight. very Kozluk-like with his crossing too
Basham 6/10: Blood (literally) and guts from him but he's showing his limitations at times. Still able to carry the ball forward into space, which makes a fucking change
Egan 6/10: Bullied and battered by Carroll for much of the game which is par for the course for Egan. He's a decent centre back and gets his head in but aerially he's powderpuff against big strong centre forwards
JLT 6.5/10: Another committed if spoon-footed game for Jacky boy. No long throws either?
Lowe 5/10: Timid. That word just about sums him up.
Berge 4/10: Marginally better game in a deeper role. Strolled around with the ball and looked capable, but wasn't.
Norwood 4/10: Poor game and reversion for him against a numerically inferior midfield where you'd imagine him to be bossing the game and winning it for us.
McAtee 3/10: Thought he was outmuscled and weak tonight. He epitomised where tonight's game, although won on goals, was lost on the pitch.
NDaiye 7/10: Our only outlet and our only ball winner. Well worked for and taken goal. Hope the flying fuck his hip injury isn't bad because he is the only way we get promoted now if Hecky doesn't switch on and start getting us engaged to win the game from start to finish
McBurnie 6.5/10: Worked very hard to get and remain with the attack but tended to shithouse a bit. Well worked for the setup for NDaiye's goal

Baldock 5/10: Added marginally more than Bogle down on the right
Sharp 5/10: Usual hustle and bustle and dug in to set Reading back, but he's running out of steam as we run out of options
Fleck 4/10: Didn't see what he brought to the outfield play or much of him in the game either. Pointless and indeed wrong substitution

We still have so much to do now and indeed over the next six months to justify going up. Beating Reading tonight was good, but it was wholly unconvincing that without NDaiye we are rudderless and beatable. We have far too many player with us still with their heads in Division One and not moved on or out when the right time - on relegation - was apparent and when we could have and should have changed. The trouble is that if we go up we WILL have to change or we will be smashed week in, week out. We will have to get shut of a good 40-50% of the current squad and buy big to replace them and change entirely the way we play - Wilderball without any of the good bits. It's heartening we are still in the chase but we remain fragile and fraught and the confidence is brittle. Maybe a dropping of Berge for once and Doyle/Norwood at R/LDM with McB and Jebbo as frontmen and NDaiye as No 10 could be better. Whatever happens, we are going to the fucking wire with this. Strap yourselves in.

pommpey
They may have been bummed by Boro away but the facts are that this is their first defeat at home since November 4th and they are one of the best home teams in the division. Let’s just remember to take that into consideration when making comparisons. Apart from that I agree.
 
Pommpey can't argue with any of that. For me our biggest weakness is a lack of legs in midfield. We need a box to boxer who can run with the ball and draw defenders out and create a bit of space for the front teo.

Norwood and Berge are pedestrian and play far too many sideways and backwards balls. The only way this formation works properly is when the wingbacks are performing and Bogle and Lowe haven't performed for weeks.

I'd try Jebbo and McB up front to add some pace and move Ndiaye into the number 10 role. I'd drop Beege to the bench and bring Doyle in to see if he can add some athleticism to the midfield. I also think Egan may need a rest and would play Robbo, Clark and Anel as the back three on Saturday.
 
Reading set up not to concede five as they had done at the weekend. It made it hard for us to break them down. The only important thing was the three points and we got them. Ollie Mc Burnie was superb, with very little service. The goal was really well worked and fitting that Ollie and Illi were at the heart of it.
 

Yes the win is crucial but ...
We are like one of those modern cars that's run by a computer chip - when the chip puts the engine into "limp-mode" , just enough power to coast downhill and freewheel on the flat , but the first gradient and we're spluttering.
We think & move so slowly , our attacks are in front of opponents defenders , hardly ever in behind them (whether by wingplay or throughballs).
I have to lay most of the responsibility on midfield and Hecky's inability to recognise where the defects are.
It's only a few days since Doyle gave a masterclass against PL opposition in the Norwood role and since then , he can't get a game.
Despite Norwood being under par tonight.
And then Hecky chooses Fleck to come on ???
I thought McCall was a great midfielder for us , so I can't understand why he thinks the way ours performs is ok.
The future cannot be Fleck.
The future has to be younger men.
And Berge would never get in my team but I accept the mistaken investment in him means he will play.
Instead of watching our limping misfiring midfield , I'd like to see changes but Hecky will never be brave enough.
Why not have one striker + play Ndiaye & Berge in behind.
Or even keep 2 strikers but put Ndiaye in midfield with Norwood & Doyle behind him.
Just for once , don't start Berge and see how it goes.
Put some youth & pace & bite & big hearts into midfield.
Try it Hecky , you have 5 subs , you can always change it during the game in the unlikely event that it's worse than our current midfield.
 
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Reading set up not to concede five as they had done at the weekend. It made it hard for us to break them down. The only important thing was the three points and we got them. Ollie Mc Burnie was superb, with very little service. The goal was really well worked and fitting that Ollie and Illi were at the heart of it.
The way that McB ran onto that ball from Bogle to cross for the goal showed great skill & determination.
 
The way that McB ran onto that ball from Bogle to cross for the goal showed great skill & determination.
Yes it did.
Not to mention Ndiaye sticking it away while being kicked into the stand before ending up in the back of the net. He really is an outstanding player.
I thought Berge had a good game, he really tried to get stuck in this time. Obviously Pommps criticisms have had their desired effect.
McB put in hell of a shift and the Wes save from Carroll’s header was top drawer.
Reading worked hard to win that. They’re not a bad team.
They lost to Boro by a big margin but the reports I read said that Michael Carrick’s Boro had huge assistance from the ref,
 
Yes it did.
Not to mention Ndiaye sticking it away while being kicked into the stand before ending up in the back of the net. He really is an outstanding player.
I thought Berge had a good game, he really tried to get stuck in this time. Obviously Pommps criticisms have had their desired effect.
McB put in hell of a shift and the Wes save from Carroll’s header was top drawer.
Reading worked hard to win that. They’re not a bad team.
They lost to Boro by a big margin but the reports I read said that Michael Carrick’s Boro had huge assistance from the ref,
There is no doubt in my mind that the EFL & the media would prefer Boro get promoted - we have brought this negative undercurrent upon ourselves with various aspects of the embargo & takeover & quotes against refs from Hecky & Sharp - but it's definitely another headwind we have to battle.
 
There is no doubt in my mind that the EFL & the media would prefer Boro get promoted - we have brought this negative undercurrent upon ourselves with various aspects of the embargo & takeover & quotes against refs from Hecky & Sharp - but it's definitely another headwind we have to battle.
Yes the media loves a good wankfest over their footballing heroes when they move into management.
Personally, I can’t wait until we’re Trevor Brooking’s Sheffield United.
 
Agree on the runners and the midfield being too conservative in their passing. The goal was a perfect example of what we should have been doing more of.
Saying that, everyone was screaming out for us to tighten up the midfield and start winning ugly again and get our confidence back. This is exactly what we did with Berge and Norwood both sitting deep and basically relying on N’diaye, McAtee and McB to create something. I thought we controlled the ball better in midfield, with Berge not getting stressed and playing balls to our players not just hoofing it up like some of the favourites do. We’re a team low on confidence who went away on a Tuesday night and beat a team that rarely loses at home. Job done
 
We scare teams because we keep finding ways of taking 3 points off them. I'm sure Luton will be wary on Saturday

Can't compare our beating Reading 1-0 to boros 5 -0 ..boro were at home.
I mention it because Reading beat boro 1-0 at home

So our horrible 3 points there was 3 more than boro got
But no one cares about that because they beat Reading 5-0 at weekend....
 
Slightly harsh on Bogle for me, yes he did his usual wandering and not tracking back, leaving some holes but he was very involved in the goal and he did find himself in a lot of space and was a useful outlet…I get the feeling him and Norwood don’t get on off the pitch. Constantly berating eachother for misplaced passes.
 
Why the cry for jebbo 😏 not really done owt to say he should be near the first XI
I thought Jebbo was by far the more obvious sub than Sharp.

Not dissing Sharp at all but we were stretching them and Ndiaye and McBurnie’s running in behind is what was causing the issues for like Reading.

So within two subs, we’d lost McAtee’s ball carrying in midfield and Ndiaye’s movement up front. I’d much rather have seen Jebbison stretching them and Doyle adding a bit more passing ambition.

Job done though. With each game we tick off now, it becomes harder to be caught. We could have put this to bed a long time ago though.
 
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A really negative report I'd say and with low marks. I didn't think we were too bad without setting the world alight. After a heavy defeat Reading were always going to make it hard and so it proved they put a lot of big fuckers on the pitch got men behind the ball hoping to get a breakaway or to drop one on Carrol's nut, quite negative for a strong home team. I thought we were never in much trouble from them all game and we generally had the upper hand. Bearing in mind we have had a little blip recently and not been on it this was a well needed away performance and 3pts. I'll take the same scoreline on Saturday against Luton if need be at this stage it is points that matter more than looking pretty.
 
Whoopee

A good win and high up on my take
Can't disagree with a lot of that Pomps last night I almost replied to a thread saying what's happened to Bogle I'd give him a 5 if only for the through ball for the build up to the goal.

This one falls into the a wins a win category we will take it ... UTB
 
Always going to be a difficult horrible game, with their home form. and style. Reading's last home loss was to Preston on 4th November so I will take the 3 points and run as they have also beaten Boro and Blackburn at home this season. Sometimes you need to 'win ugly' just like we did v Watford at home because I am sick of seeing us batter teams and then only draw or even lose.
 

Yet another 'dirty win' against a team resoundingly bummed up the bum last time out by our nearest promotion rivals. The game tonight made both teams look very much like they were within one place of each other down the bottom of the league than where they actually are. All over the pitch United are failing to fire on all cylinders and dominate weaker teams like Reading. I'm not saying we should be whupping them 4 or 5-0 at the Madjeski (although really, it would restore some confidence in fans that we will go up in the autos) but we should be at least more than a solitary goal from nowhere up and playing out the final minutes high up in their half with them looking beaten rather than defending and 'thank fuck'ing the final whistle. Many on shoutbox and elsewhere noted we were 'well on top' in the first half hour but that masks the reality that although we seemed to be, we actually created fucking nowt. We're great at 'possession football' in phases. It's almost as if the brief is to keep the ball in the centre third and don't dare to attack their goal. It's indicative of a few things. One is that this team is stuffed still with legacy players who don't know anything different than Wilderball. The second is that no one bar Basham and NDaiye knows how to make use of the space in front of them. Everything has to be passed back and forth like some fucking extended training drill. Unless its at the feet of NDaiye it aint gonna trouble their defence. Crossing and through balls, cracks from distance and just 'well worked goals' are out of the question. We seem scared to gamble and instead pass it endlessly this way and that boring the arse of everyone. Reading were abject tonight and you could see exactly how Boro destroyed them at the Riverside on Satdi. They went at their weaknesses. Tonight they played 5-2-3 at one stage and still our midfield looked fucking outnumbered. Great to still maintain seven points but coming up we have Luton at the Lane whereas Boro visit a shambolic Swansea. Put in a performance like we did tonight (and let's hope NDaiye is okay) and that seven points once again gets squeaky-bum again. Hecky needs to get us consistently at oppositions and trying efforts and gambling a bit. The passing and positionals tonight also need tightening. The back three tonight, although coping, were seriously under the cosh. And for fuck's sake, where is Jebbison and Doyle?

Foderingham 6/10: Decent tip over from Carroll. Some questionable distribution in the first half
Bogle 4/10: Shambolic and off-key performance from him tonight. very Kozluk-like with his crossing too
Basham 6/10: Blood (literally) and guts from him but he's showing his limitations at times. Still able to carry the ball forward into space, which makes a fucking change
Egan 6/10: Bullied and battered by Carroll for much of the game which is par for the course for Egan. He's a decent centre back and gets his head in but aerially he's powderpuff against big strong centre forwards
JLT 6.5/10: Another committed if spoon-footed game for Jacky boy. No long throws either?
Lowe 5/10: Timid. That word just about sums him up.
Berge 4/10: Marginally better game in a deeper role. Strolled around with the ball and looked capable, but wasn't.
Norwood 4/10: Poor game and reversion for him against a numerically inferior midfield where you'd imagine him to be bossing the game and winning it for us.
McAtee 3/10: Thought he was outmuscled and weak tonight. He epitomised where tonight's game, although won on goals, was lost on the pitch.
NDaiye 7/10: Our only outlet and our only ball winner. Well worked for and taken goal. Hope the flying fuck his hip injury isn't bad because he is the only way we get promoted now if Hecky doesn't switch on and start getting us engaged to win the game from start to finish
McBurnie 6.5/10: Worked very hard to get and remain with the attack but tended to shithouse a bit. Well worked for the setup for NDaiye's goal

Baldock 5/10: Added marginally more than Bogle down on the right
Sharp 5/10: Usual hustle and bustle and dug in to set Reading back, but he's running out of steam as we run out of options
Fleck 4/10: Didn't see what he brought to the outfield play or much of him in the game either. Pointless and indeed wrong substitution

We still have so much to do now and indeed over the next six months to justify going up. Beating Reading tonight was good, but it was wholly unconvincing that without NDaiye we are rudderless and beatable. We have far too many player with us still with their heads in Division One and not moved on or out when the right time - on relegation - was apparent and when we could have and should have changed. The trouble is that if we go up we WILL have to change or we will be smashed week in, week out. We will have to get shut of a good 40-50% of the current squad and buy big to replace them and change entirely the way we play - Wilderball without any of the good bits. It's heartening we are still in the chase but we remain fragile and fraught and the confidence is brittle. Maybe a dropping of Berge for once and Doyle/Norwood at R/LDM with McB and Jebbo as frontmen and NDaiye as No 10 could be better. Whatever happens, we are going to the fucking wire with this. Strap yourselves in.

pommpey
I haven’t seen any of the game, but I did think of you last night when Sky were praising the quality and input of Berge !!
 

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