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I can only assume he brought on Fleck to give him minutes, so he can start him on Saturday.
Hecky had settled for a point at that stage.
You could well be right, but why Oh why is the manager playing the next game whilst in the present game.
Cos , I believe, he thinks he is a tactical genius, the likes of Pep.
All he actually does is tinker, often when not needed, so as to make it look that he is doing something tactically astute.
Yet, often he misses the blinding obvious, as last night, leaving Brewster and Kadra on the bench.
If they had come on and the out come had been the same as it was, at least it would have been an attempt to get a win/draw instead of repeating the same despite the same getting him nowhere.
Has he never heard of Albert Einstein?
With the iron clad contract he has in place he is safe but really, in my opinion, he needs moving on.
 

we were having wave after wave of pressure in their half until they scored? They resorted to just hoofing it back to us. Why would you change that unless you had to?

Not really the kind of scenario for Brewster or Khadra given they were just putting men behind the ball.

Our two best players and most likely players were Ndiaye and McBurnie. Are you taking those off? And given the danger they posed on the counter, weakening the defensive areas?
True McBurnie actually had a decent last 15 minutes after being crap the first 75.
Sharp was put on because he has more chance of scoring against a defensive set up rather than Brewster. If McAtees cross had been better it would have paid off as he found some good space.
Fleck for Doyle was the negative one, but as stated before this was probably with an eye on Saturday
 
Fleck for Doyle was the negative one, but as stated before this was probably with an eye on Saturday
Doyle doesn't have the fitness to last 90 minutes playing two games a week. He's breathing out his ass 70 minutes in. One occasion he lost the ball and looked like he was running on sand trying to get back. McAtee, to his credit, ran half the pitch to cover him.
 
Near enough with that report Pommpey.
The game was there to be won so he puts on the invisible man John Fleck brillant.
What more can you say about run around Osborn fucking shocking.
How long is he going to persevere with Boldock can’t tackle or mark does get into good positions but can’t deliver the final ball.
Please start Brewster these cameo starts aren’t doing him or us any favours
Gutted about RND
Who do you suggest would be better than Baldock ?
 
Good question got to get somebody in next window
Boldocks a total waste
No, he’s not a total waste and will take some replacing especially if Bogle returns, so that any new player would have to fight for his place. Unless Bogle plays further forward alongside Berge in a midfield 4 ?
 
No, he’s not a total waste and will take some replacing especially if Bogle returns, so that any new player would have to fight for his place. Unless Bogle plays further forward alongside Berge in a midfield 4 ?
I just don’t rate him no end product
 
I just don’t rate him no end product
I agree his crossing is poor and he often turns back rather than attack, but he does a reasonable defensive job. It’s not that I want to keep him but I cannot see better players coming in as Bogle’s understudy.
 
I agree his crossing is poor and he often turns back rather than attack, but he does a reasonable defensive job. It’s not that I want to keep him but I cannot see better players coming in as Bogle’s understudy.
Enough said on this subject pal
 
Another frustrating loss for us, this time to the team anchored at the foot of the table. Just let that sink in. A few weeks ago we were in an unassailable position, points clear and goals in hand and starting to think we'd piss this league. We were playing pleasing, positive, forward moving football and made teams fear us home and away. What could go wrong? Normally our return from the dreaded international break comes with a drop in form which slowly recovers, but this time the drop is a plummet. Two points from fifteen is actually relegation form and many teams around us have the notion we have bottled it and are easy to shut down and beat, and tonight's match was evidence of that. Yeah, yada-injuries-yada-unlucky-yada-fucking-yada. Again, we had a raft of ex Premier League players out there including some who have been in the Kotex Team of the Week for the past ten years. Big fucking deal. What matters to me is that we win, or at least we don't fucking lose. We nearly lost against Blackpool and very much lost tonight. Hecky has a team in crisis once again so yeah, nice bloke and all that but we have come full circle now, downward spiral with nowt much that looks like a glimmer of hope.

The first thirty five minutes were shockingly uninspirational. We looked badly assembled with no visible on pitch plan of attack and massive gaps between the forwards, midfield and backline. When we did venture forward we looked like we didn't know what to do with it in such high altitudes and McBurnie/N'Daiye once again ran their arses off feeding off scraps or digging out anything that looked like a chance. We barely got round the back or into space or looking like we were putting Coventry under undue pressure. Their keeper, splendidly kitted in white barely got his kit soiled, see also Davies at the other end. It was typically United. We lose RND to yet another fucking hamstring problem - this time it looks like a tear so we are talking February before he's back on the bench for twenty minutes - and the pretty abject Osborn left to deal with the muscular and imposing Dabo. It was like watching a chihuahua take on a mastiff. We ended the half 'okay' but still without anything to count for. Coventry simply 'dealt with us' and stopped us playing by containing any threat. And that disconnect between midfield and the front was so fucking evident. It was a passing line they just filled with bodies forcing the pattern into tippy-tappy tedium.

Second half we switched on and for ten minutes we looked a bit like earlier season United. Norwood hits the bar with a freaky free kick and McB strikes the post with N'Daiye forcing a save from a tight angle. Up the other end Coventry tried and as the game bled out Bash, who'd dealt with Goykyeres quite well up to that moment puts in a shocker of a tackle and up steps that man Waghorn, one of many people we play and fail to stop scoring, to slam in the penalty. Davies also managed a save which woke him up but going the other way - even with a clearly out of condition Fleck on the pitch, and Sharp on for Basham we looked toothless, pointless and ready to accept defeat. It was just what we deserved.

Davies 5/10: Practically fuck all to do but palm a shot away which seemed not to be going in and pick the ball out of the net after Waghorn's penalty
Baldock 6/10: Got up the flank well and pressed but the interplay between him, Doyle and Anel was flaky and untidy at times
Anel 7/10: a good outing for him. Shows composure on the ball and defends well. We'll be lucky to have him this time next year
Egan 6/10: He still plods and is somewhat static. Dealt with multiple threats tonight but that's not saying much. the Coventry front line wasn't quite the same as it was in March in the same fixture
Basham 4/10: Loses a good two marks for that tackle. Up to then I felt he had Goykyres pretty much muzzled but his judgement, pace and agility is fading. Bloke is a fucking legend, but its ashame to see him struggling
RND unmarked: I am appalled we have lost another player ... and such a key one this time ... to a common denominator injury. This is becoming beyond a joke now. The conditioning staff need to get their thumbs out of their arses and find out what the fuck is happening here with conditioning of physiology and pre-game preparation for this level of loading
Osborn 2/10: Struggling in LCM and struggling further in LWB. He puts shitloads of energy into doing and creating fucking nothing. Improved marginally in the second half but not by much. Osborn to me is a L1 or below standard player in a league well above his capability. He'd do well in the Scottish Leagues where that level of energetic fuck-all-ness is like fucking catnip to the sweary kilted hoardes. He's today's Stefan Scougall or Ryan Flynn.
McAtee 4/10: Largely ineffective and still showing signs of 'boy in man's league' levels of return
Norwood 6/10: Some good, some bad. There were times when you were willing him along to play that pass, make that challenge and then you're saying 'Fuck's sake Norwood' as he telegraphs or dawdles and gets robbed. But he's always done that and got in the Team of the Week or Ballon D'Or or summat. I don't care. As people say 'when he plays good, we play good. When he plays bad, we play bad'. So he's inconsistent, then? Tonight he was characteristically both. Managed his trademark row Z attempt on goal.
Doyle 6.5/10: Does a hell of a lot of unmerited heavy lifting in that midfield for such a young lad. Undeservedly subbed for Fleck.
N'Daiye 6/10: Busied himself trying to create and dig stuff out of the turf. But like always, he gets the ball when he shouldn't, twists past one, drops the shoulder past another and goes past yet another and is into space with options. He's the only person capable of doing this in our squad because Basham doesn't any more. But then he's greedy and tries to beat two more and suddenly a good attacking chance is over.
McBurnie 7.5/10: A good performance from him in a game of few chances. unlucky with the post hit and didn't shithouse. Ran his socks off and looked a lot fitter and 90 minutes capable. Just needs to stay out of trouble.

Fleck 4/10: Barely saw him and for me a stupid substitution.
Sharp 5/10: Tried to muck in and get busy but it was all over by then

HJ&SMcC 4/10: Poor substitutions. Robinson on the bench as a practical direct sub for RND or Bash out wide left and he leaves Osborn on to struggle like fuck for 90 and get nothing. Khadra unused despite recent performances and Brewster too. Brings Fleck on. What the actual fuck?

Just as an aside, I am a bit sick of the 'we'll make the playoffs' mentality now. We know what happens in the playoffs, so for me we should be demanding automatic. We have ex-PL players in the team and should, if we have the ambition and yearning for success we ought to have, be seeing players out there performing like PL players if we ever dream of playing there. How much of tonight's - or the past month's performances - say 'Premier League'? How many players in that team tonight would you actually say would put in a night of grit and endeavour under the floodlights in front of the Sky Cameras against say Everton, Brighton of Leicester City? If its 'all of them' I'd say you're fucking deluded. We'd get fucking hammered. If it's two, we'd possibly scrape the playoffs. If it's 'none', then we are where we are, sliding down the league into mid-table mediocrity after a great start to the season. And other results haven't half been favourable to us of late. We are now a loss against Norwich and some not so favourable results on Saturday from ending up ninth or tenth. Hoist that in.

pommpey
Heckingbottom's post match interviews , Blackpool & Coventry were fairly laid back & gives rise to a suspicion he has some insight into the Board's ambitions regarding promotion. I.E. He knows that, even if we get promoted, there's no intention to invest in the side. In other words There's no money!!
 
Heckingbottom's post match interviews , Blackpool & Coventry were fairly laid back & gives rise to a suspicion he has some insight into the Board's ambitions regarding promotion. I.E. He knows that, even if we get promoted, there's no intention to invest in the side. In other words There's no money!!

And in that, by pure chance returning to the top flight with the spine of the team comprising the Wilder good and bad days is a recipe for failure. I challenge anyone to name me one player out of our squad who would definitely walk into a matchday staring lineup in a PL team right now. N'Daiye? Nope. Why do you think he is still here? He's great digging in and finding chances in this division (provided the rest of our team is switched on to hi needs and wants) Anel? Maybe ... but he seems to me to be at least three years at a PL club before he picks himself every week. After that, I'm struggling. Even the loanees from Man City are still Man City players precisely for what they are doing now, burnishing their skills and possibly attracting bids way above what we can afford at the end of their loan spell. And don't get me started on Berge. Faced with most PL midfields (and he wasn't particularly consistent against the promoted teams last season either) he's be a traffic cone.

Our problems won't disappear until we have finally purged Wilder from our system I am afraid. Occasionally Heckyaball turns out some pleasing returns but as we have seen it requires all players to resonate because if one or two aren't - and we know who they are without mentioning them - the whole framework becomes quickly unbolted and collapses.

pommpey
 
We’re not in the Premier league right now, which probably explains why we haven’t got many players who would walk into a match day lineup in a PL team at the mo.
 
Heckingbottom's post match interviews , Blackpool & Coventry were fairly laid back & gives rise to a suspicion he has some insight into the Board's ambitions regarding promotion. I.E. He knows that, even if we get promoted, there's no intention to invest in the side. In other words There's no money!!
Is it his body language?
 
And in that, by pure chance returning to the top flight with the spine of the team comprising the Wilder good and bad days is a recipe for failure. I challenge anyone to name me one player out of our squad who would definitely walk into a matchday staring lineup in a PL team right now. N'Daiye? Nope. Why do you think he is still here? He's great digging in and finding chances in this division (provided the rest of our team is switched on to hi needs and wants) Anel? Maybe ... but he seems to me to be at least three years at a PL club before he picks himself every week. After that, I'm struggling. Even the loanees from Man City are still Man City players precisely for what they are doing now, burnishing their skills and possibly attracting bids way above what we can afford at the end of their loan spell. And don't get me started on Berge. Faced with most PL midfields (and he wasn't particularly consistent against the promoted teams last season either) he's be a traffic cone.

Our problems won't disappear until we have finally purged Wilder from our system I am afraid. Occasionally Heckyaball turns out some pleasing returns but as we have seen it requires all players to resonate because if one or two aren't - and we know who they are without mentioning them - the whole framework becomes quickly unbolted and collapses.

pommpey
It's a bit inconsistent to claim these are premier league players in the match report and to demand better, then outright claim not one of them is a premier league player here.

They are who they are. Many of them could hold down a place in the premier depending on the team around them. But also many premier teams have money that can also get them even better players.

Enjoy the game today.
 
You could well be right, but why Oh why is the manager playing the next game whilst in the present game.
Cos , I believe, he thinks he is a tactical genius, the likes of Pep.
All he actually does is tinker, often when not needed, so as to make it look that he is doing something tactically astute.
Yet, often he misses the blinding obvious, as last night, leaving Brewster and Kadra on the bench.
If they had come on and the out come had been the same as it was, at least it would have been an attempt to get a win/draw instead of repeating the same despite the same getting him nowhere.
Has he never heard of Albert Einstein?
With the iron clad contract he has in place he is safe but really, in my opinion, he needs moving on.
A sad state of affairs when your options from the bench are Khadra and Brewster.
 

IMO - not getting us promoted this season with this squad will be more of a failure than wilder getting us relegated from the prem.

Last season he had a free hit with our position when he took over. Always judge a manager on his first full season….
 
IMO - not getting us promoted this season with this squad will be more of a failure than wilder getting us relegated from the prem.

Last season he had a free hit with our position when he took over. Always judge a manager on his first full season….

Complete nonsense, the squad is injury prone, ageing and a lot of them show very little commitment.

Plus despite the ludicrous wages of the likes of brewster and McBurnie, we haven't got a striker who is in the top 10 of striker's in this league.

Ndiaye is our only truly quality player and don't forget he's only in the side because of Heccky
 
Complete nonsense, the squad is injury prone, ageing and a lot of them show very little commitment.

Plus despite the ludicrous wages of the likes of brewster and McBurnie, we haven't got a striker who is in the top 10 of striker's in this league.

Ndiaye is our only truly quality player and don't forget he's only in the side because of Heccky
Whilst I agree that the players are underperforming and also some should have been moved on a couple seasons back.

The manager also has responsibility to get the best out of them and over the last 5 games he hasn’t ….

Wether it’s off player selection
Odd tactical decisions (if any)
Playing players before they are fully back from fitness.

It all mounts up.

Whilst admittedly we don’t see training on a daily basis some players should be getting a sustained run in the team to see what they can do.

I believe there is player in Brewster but we don’t set up to play to his strengths .

It’s not surprising that McBurnie started scoring when we started whipping the ball in early and has stopped again now we’ve reverted to tippy tappy… checking back again.

Also the lack of discipline sneaking in is a worry
 
Heckingbottom's post match interviews , Blackpool & Coventry were fairly laid back & gives rise to a suspicion he has some insight into the Board's ambitions regarding promotion. I.E. He knows that, even if we get promoted, there's no intention to invest in the side. In other words There's no money!!
Well then the only way any Championship club can make money is by getting promoted or find a billionaire, what would your solution be bob along in the Championship selling our best player every year finishing 8th with the occasional pop at the play off's? Didn't we try that with McCabe as owner it worked once in about 17 years otherwise we were nearly men with no real ambition and a small club mentality that still persists today in half of our fanbase.
 
We don’t seem to attract or even market our players to get big bids on them same said when we’re buying players well not for the past 50 years, Deano went for some good money in the day as did Jags but in the scheme of things nothing earth shattering we could blame the board for taking low offers but we don’t really know what was offered in the first place where as Leeds who in the last couple of seasons have finished 9th in the PL and then had 2nd season syndrome and sell 2 players for near £100 million (both can’t get in their respective teams) my point is that some of our players could be good enough for the premiership but at Sheffield United we don’t do Billy Big Bollocks we are very toned down we have to remember that some of these players did finish 9th in the PL 3 seasons ago. (please excuse my bad grammar I’m laid in bed poorly and concentration is gone)
 
Whilst I agree that the players are underperforming and also some should have been moved on a couple seasons back.

The manager also has responsibility to get the best out of them and over the last 5 games he hasn’t ….

Wether it’s off player selection
Odd tactical decisions (if any)
Playing players before they are fully back from fitness.

It all mounts up.

Whilst admittedly we don’t see training on a daily basis some players should be getting a sustained run in the team to see what they can do.

I believe there is player in Brewster but we don’t set up to play to his strengths .

It’s not surprising that McBurnie started scoring when we started whipping the ball in early and has stopped again now we’ve reverted to tippy tappy… checking back again.

Also the lack of discipline sneaking in is a worry
Brewster is not good enough based on his performances for us. Hecky wouldn't have signed him and I'm sure he'd love to have his wages to use on two quality striker's for this division

The players hecky has introduced have been great, Ndaiye, Anel etc. He is just hampered by having a load of players who aren't his, that no other club in their right mind would take on because of the daft contracts given out under the previous management.

We've had a bad patch but Hecky has done brilliantly so far this season, to say us not getting promoted would be worse than our embarrassing Premier league capitulation under wilder is just daft

Let's also not forget if wilder would have had the full relegation season we would have beaten derby's record low points total... we were that bad
 
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It's a bit inconsistent to claim these are premier league players in the match report and to demand better, then outright claim not one of them is a premier league player here.

They are who they are. Many of them could hold down a place in the premier depending on the team around them. But also many premier teams have money that can also get them even better players.

Enjoy the game today.

Not at all. Try and read my context. My point is that as much as we hang onto that PL period and the supposed ability of these players, in truth they weren't anywhere near that ability and the first part of that season was if anything a freakshow whereby oppositions struggled to cope against a new system and style of play. Post lockdown it was all over. We'd shot our bolt and for me, even the notable victories against Spurs and Chelsea at the Lane were more indicative of that season being over even for the supposed top clubs. In United's case, we shipped some surprisingly damaging defeats during that end state which made us look distinctly League One again (Newcastle, Man U and Southampton) and our form was faltering with W3 D2 L5, which was a harbinger of how badly we were broken up and sunk the following season from the first five minutes against Wolves onwards. In my mind, we only really had one, maybe two good games in 2020-21 - at least where we took the game to the opposition with tenacity and both were the two away wins we deserved against Man U and Everton. The rest of the season we looked like, played like and were beaten like a Championship side, even with the lavish expense made on some pretty unremarkable players. That is what I mean by 'we have PL players in the team' who have played at that level and 'we have no PL players in the team' in that none of them play like PL players. It's basically a fallacy and we flatter ourselves to think we could simply go back up with this lot and not be battered every week given how they play right now.

pommpey
 
I think we carrying more injuries than Heck'y admits to, hamstrings usually go when a player isn't quite mobile or fit enough to do the job, I think because our injury list returning players are being brought back to soon, if Fleck starts on Saturday he will be the next, you can see Egan is not 100%, having said that why oh why does he bring on Sharp when we need energy up the pitch, for me it was crying out for Brewster and as poor Khadra has been I would have brought him on as well.
People going on about Ndiaye, but he keeps running up blind alleys, Baldock has no end product, McBurnie can't sort his feet out we lack any sort of pace and ability in midfield, to be fair Doyle tries but he's young and can't carry our midfield and create attacking options as well, it don't look great right now!!
Having five subs favours the bigger clubs. At this level, we're one of them. We're arguably the one with the depth we have.

When we were in the top flight we rallied against this because it would give an unfair advantage to the Man Us, Liverpools and Chelseas. Now we have that advantage, we don't use it.

With so many games I'd be looking to use 5 every game.

Get a good intensive 60 or 70 out of half the team then get them to rest up and throw in a fresh lot.

That should be part of the strategy.

McBurnie needs an operation. On his hernia. He's playing through it. He can apparently do 70 mins. So we're now pushing him to do 90 because he had a chance at 70. How is that looking after the players? If his lay off is longer than expected then whose fault is that? Because bad luck has nothing to do with that.
 
Sharp 5 / 10, nearly spat my tea out. He did nothing.

I get that he’s a legend and everything, but Brewster should’ve been on 20 minutes earlier just to run at their shaky defence.

Bringing Sharp on in any game suggests we either need someone to win fouls in dangerous areas (or fall over and win nothing) or we’re peppering the box and no one is finishing the chances.

Last night was neither, so a completely pointless sub, far too little far too late.
I do think Billy starts or is an unused sub, however, maybe Hecky considered that a penalty was potentially the decider!!
It’s quite clear that the coaching team don’t ‘fancy’ Brewster at all …..and who can blame them
 

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