My take ...

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A simply tremendous night at Bramall Lane, level with the halcyon days of the Wilder Premier League matches when for a short while, we looked potent and invincible. Tonight's comprehensive dismantling of 'top of the league' Reading must now be making others fancied for the automatics look at our team and fear what they can do. We utterly bossed the game from the kick off and cut them to bits, even squandering a hatful of chances along the way. From front to back and across the ninety minutes there wasn't really a flat spot and uncharacteristically for us after the break, we didn't let Ince's half time bollocking for the Royals give them any resolve. Oh no. We just went on the attack and buried them.

A decent line up with Doyle starting for Fleck/McAtee instantly had great effect. Norwood now seems to have buckets of time to do what he likes to do and both of these were fantastic in being not just strong in the tackle, but clever in their forward development turning defence into attack. It gave Berge so much freedom to link and run at and past Readings defence and enabled McBurnie to terrorise and N'Daiye to create havoc. And when you have Baldock/Anel and RND/Lowe up the flanks, you have a team performance which is relentless and unforgiving, leaving Reading no room to manoeuvre and no place to go, so much so that they had not one shot on goal.

Really glad McBurnie seems to be turning things round and grabbed a goal and that our true goal machine - Mr Ahmedozic is ripping defences apart. illiman again showed fabulous amounts of class to grab a goal and really, we could have had a fucking hatful. It all had its roots in a style of play which is fabulously sexy to watch with every player knowing where the next pass is going because every player knows where three or four options are when they have the ball at their feet. Compare that to this time last year under Slav and it seemed like the players were playing games with strangers. Even the loanees are in on this secret and passes zip about on the deck to deny oppositions any purchase on the game. Sure, there were some shitpants periods when Reading might have scored, but they were snuffed out. The attacking threat and prowess of Joao and Ince featured fleetingly and to no effect and Wes had nowt much to do. In fact, had he had a leaky balloon knot moment in the second half, he could have trotted off to trap four in the home changing room and shot ten litres of liquid clay like a Nagasaki sunset out whilst watching the match on his phone and still trotted out (see what I did there?) and took his place between the sticks feeling less 'bowelly' and bloated.

Foderingham 5/10: Simply because he had nowt to do
Baldock 7.5/10: Enjoying the presence of Anel bombing up inside and freeing him up to get right up on the attack
Ahmedozic 9/10: Great game for him. Real Swiss-Army-Knife of a player. Defends cleanly and aggressively, marauds into midfield and pops up to score a brace of goals. SHOOOT! He did. Straight into the kop
Egan 6.5/10: The weakest of our players tonight and somewhat error prone and fifty-pence headed at times
RND 8/10: Best game so far as LCB. Became the 'trap' in the defensive three and moving in between to intercept and clear, whilst providing an option up in the attacking zone
Lowe 7.5/10: Better game for him and pleasing he is developing, but I feel that the return of Clark/JLT to LCB and RND to LWB may be our strongest hand
Berge 7/10: Effective in bursts. Like my comparator with him Tony Currie, he isn't 'active' all the time but when he does something, it has an impact
Norwood 8/10: Great performance from him. Some committed tackles and interceptions and good range of short and long passes. Linked well and grafted the ninety minutes
Doyle 8.5/10: Tremendous debut with real effect whenever on the ball or moving into space. He is everything Fleck isn't and is exactly what we need in that area of the pitch. Loses half a mark for skying a sitter into the kop
N'Daiye 8.5/10: Another great hour from him where he dug out balls from the feet of opposition players, harried and harassed and basically put the entire Reading team on high alert, capping it with a splendid goal
McBurnie 8.5/10: Another startlingly good outing for him, if still flecked with smaller amounts of flailing and diving. Still, he kept the Reading defence occupied and popped up in the right place for another true striker's goal. Shame he is injured with what was a 'landing' strain on his calf

Khadra 6/10: Plenty of endeavour but didn't get much in the way of supply. Fuck me has he got pace though.
Brewster 5/10: Not given enough chances or time to make an impact and alongside Khadra struggled to fit into any attacking pattern
Basham 7/10: Almost scored with his first header and became involved from the outset if in an unfamiliar. unsuited position of RWB
McAtee 6.5/10: A much better, much more intelligent few minutes for him showing better capability

HJ&SM 10/10: Superb game, well strategized and planned for with solid tactics and a new endeavour which is evident across the park. Play like this and we are run away winners. They just have to make the most of the upcoming tight schedule and WC break to keep us focussed

PS: If you are reading SUTV, sort your fucking sound out you bellends. Sounded like a tiled underpass at times.

pommpey
My god,it’s turning into kylie and Jason with you and Norwood,stop giving him anything above a 4 will you,embarrassing 😉
 



My god,it’s turning into kylie and Jason with you and Norwood,stop giving him anything above a 4 will you,embarrassing 😉

Credit where credit is due, these players (I believe now in their final contract years, mind) are starting to shit silver dollars in terms of playing capability. They also have competition and if farmed out/released have nowhere to go but down. It's what galls me when idiots on here chirp up with 'see, told you so' and 'all you McBurnie/Norwood haters' when 18 months ago you couldn't get a fucking decent ten minutes out of either of them, they were so abject.

pommpey
 
Credit where credit is due, these players (I believe now in their final contract years, mind) are starting to shit silver dollars in terms of playing capability. They also have competition and if farmed out/released have nowhere to go but down. It's what galls me when idiots on here chirp up with 'see, told you so' and 'all you McBurnie/Norwood haters' when 18 months ago you couldn't get a fucking decent ten minutes out of either of them, they were so abject.

pommpey
Correct,always helps when you have better players along side you as well,I like RND but others thought he was ‘shit,useless etc’ he’s a young kid and now he’s got Anel close to him he’s excelling,same happening with more experienced players as well. Good days at the moment and shows that you have to go to places like Luton and grind a point out even if you are a very good side,onwards.
 
Can we have a ‘My Take …’ on the general nightmare that is SUTV? The audio was what I imagine drowning sounds like. Comes to something when the Blades Social Media are using the radio commentary/sound on their clips.
 
Fantastic result but how much time and space did Reading give us ? Looked like they had given up from minute one. Luton showed how to play us and were All over Norwood. Can’t believe many managers can be so inept not to pick upon this. Nevertheless was wonderful to see the capability of our players when given that chance., Doyle a revelation - Osborne and Fleck can take their time recovering.
 
Good read as always - the shit joke nearly made me pop a little one out I laughed that much

The league starting to take shape and the cream starting to rise to the top . We have a great chance this season but as many have said we need to be more assertive away from BDTBL. For example , Norwich are second and they have just won their last two away games so have home advantage to come .

Anyway , great night , exciting team in every sense and well done Hecky

What’s not to like
 
A simply tremendous night at Bramall Lane, level with the halcyon days of the Wilder Premier League matches when for a short while, we looked potent and invincible. Tonight's comprehensive dismantling of 'top of the league' Reading must now be making others fancied for the automatics look at our team and fear what they can do. We utterly bossed the game from the kick off and cut them to bits, even squandering a hatful of chances along the way. From front to back and across the ninety minutes there wasn't really a flat spot and uncharacteristically for us after the break, we didn't let Ince's half time bollocking for the Royals give them any resolve. Oh no. We just went on the attack and buried them.

A decent line up with Doyle starting for Fleck/McAtee instantly had great effect. Norwood now seems to have buckets of time to do what he likes to do and both of these were fantastic in being not just strong in the tackle, but clever in their forward development turning defence into attack. It gave Berge so much freedom to link and run at and past Readings defence and enabled McBurnie to terrorise and N'Daiye to create havoc. And when you have Baldock/Anel and RND/Lowe up the flanks, you have a team performance which is relentless and unforgiving, leaving Reading no room to manoeuvre and no place to go, so much so that they had not one shot on goal.

Really glad McBurnie seems to be turning things round and grabbed a goal and that our true goal machine - Mr Ahmedozic is ripping defences apart. illiman again showed fabulous amounts of class to grab a goal and really, we could have had a fucking hatful. It all had its roots in a style of play which is fabulously sexy to watch with every player knowing where the next pass is going because every player knows where three or four options are when they have the ball at their feet. Compare that to this time last year under Slav and it seemed like the players were playing games with strangers. Even the loanees are in on this secret and passes zip about on the deck to deny oppositions any purchase on the game. Sure, there were some shitpants periods when Reading might have scored, but they were snuffed out. The attacking threat and prowess of Joao and Ince featured fleetingly and to no effect and Wes had nowt much to do. In fact, had he had a leaky balloon knot moment in the second half, he could have trotted off to trap four in the home changing room and shot ten litres of liquid clay like a Nagasaki sunset out whilst watching the match on his phone and still trotted out (see what I did there?) and took his place between the sticks feeling less 'bowelly' and bloated.

Foderingham 5/10: Simply because he had nowt to do
Baldock 7.5/10: Enjoying the presence of Anel bombing up inside and freeing him up to get right up on the attack
Ahmedozic 9/10: Great game for him. Real Swiss-Army-Knife of a player. Defends cleanly and aggressively, marauds into midfield and pops up to score a brace of goals. SHOOOT! He did. Straight into the kop
Egan 6.5/10: The weakest of our players tonight and somewhat error prone and fifty-pence headed at times
RND 8/10: Best game so far as LCB. Became the 'trap' in the defensive three and moving in between to intercept and clear, whilst providing an option up in the attacking zone
Lowe 7.5/10: Better game for him and pleasing he is developing, but I feel that the return of Clark/JLT to LCB and RND to LWB may be our strongest hand
Berge 7/10: Effective in bursts. Like my comparator with him Tony Currie, he isn't 'active' all the time but when he does something, it has an impact
Norwood 8/10: Great performance from him. Some committed tackles and interceptions and good range of short and long passes. Linked well and grafted the ninety minutes
Doyle 8.5/10: Tremendous debut with real effect whenever on the ball or moving into space. He is everything Fleck isn't and is exactly what we need in that area of the pitch. Loses half a mark for skying a sitter into the kop
N'Daiye 8.5/10: Another great hour from him where he dug out balls from the feet of opposition players, harried and harassed and basically put the entire Reading team on high alert, capping it with a splendid goal
McBurnie 8.5/10: Another startlingly good outing for him, if still flecked with smaller amounts of flailing and diving. Still, he kept the Reading defence occupied and popped up in the right place for another true striker's goal. Shame he is injured with what was a 'landing' strain on his calf

Khadra 6/10: Plenty of endeavour but didn't get much in the way of supply. Fuck me has he got pace though.
Brewster 5/10: Not given enough chances or time to make an impact and alongside Khadra struggled to fit into any attacking pattern
Basham 7/10: Almost scored with his first header and became involved from the outset if in an unfamiliar. unsuited position of RWB
McAtee 6.5/10: A much better, much more intelligent few minutes for him showing better capability

HJ&SM 10/10: Superb game, well strategized and planned for with solid tactics and a new endeavour which is evident across the park. Play like this and we are run away winners. They just have to make the most of the upcoming tight schedule and WC break to keep us focussed

PS: If you are reading SUTV, sort your fucking sound out you bellends. Sounded like a tiled underpass at times.

pommpey
Loved the description of Anel,
'Swiss army knife' type of player ..perfect !!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
It's what galls me when idiots on here chirp up with 'see, told you so' and 'all you McBurnie/Norwood haters' when 18 months ago you couldn't get a fucking decent ten minutes out of either of them
Norwood been one of the best midfielders in the league for last 10 months. The people telling you they told you so on him are right.
 
Norwood been one of the best midfielders in the league for last 10 months. The people telling you they told you so on him are right.
I honestly thought that Norwood and Fleck were both finished after the games at Watford and Boro.

I could have been wrong about Norwood! His game does depend on others supporting him, up to a point.

Fleck has injuries and loss of form against him, plus his age and some serious young competition for his place.
 
I honestly thought that Norwood and Fleck were both finished after the games at Watford and Boro.

I could have been wrong about Norwood! His game does depend on others supporting him, up to a point.

Fleck has injuries and loss of form against him, plus his age and some serious young competition for his place.
Well you're definitely wrong about Norwood. Fleck is still a decent player at this level imo. Seems the done thing is to go hysterical over certain players being finished whenever they have a poor game.
 
Norwood been one of the best midfielders in the league for last 10 months. The people telling you they told you so on him are right.

Seems like many others disagree with you. Your ten months includes games such as the dismal 0-0 draw against Hull at home and us getting tubbed by Coventry away where just as an example, he was largely ineffective and his usual pointy, longball, one-trick-pony, ineffective self.

Just because he has found his feet in the past few games doesn't give you much levity to stroll on here with your usual swagger (and strange 'radar-set-to-pommpey' stalkiness) claiming Norwood has always been the cat's conkers in midfield mastery. Truth is, he hasn't and for vast periods of his tenure with us, he has been outplayed and one dimensional. Your lack of context and rose-tinted daftness is pretty typical and I'm waiting for you to rely on Barney to dig out some long-forgotten and dubious tract where you reckon I said one thing yet you misinterpreted it just so you can pitifully claim you've one-nilled me. Norwood, on balance, has not been our Kevin de Bruyne nor even our Michael de Bruyne, more so our Mrs de Bruyne, and it will take more than a few games for me to convince me otherwise.

pommpey
 
Seems like many others disagree with you. Your ten months includes games such as the dismal 0-0 draw against Hull at home and us getting tubbed by Coventry away where just as an example, he was largely ineffective and his usual pointy, longball, one-trick-pony, ineffective self.

Just because he has found his feet in the past few games doesn't give you much levity to stroll on here with your usual swagger (and strange 'radar-set-to-pommpey' stalkiness) claiming Norwood has always been the cat's conkers in midfield mastery. Truth is, he hasn't and for vast periods of his tenure with us, he has been outplayed and one dimensional. Your lack of context and rose-tinted daftness is pretty typical and I'm waiting for you to rely on Barney to dig out some long-forgotten and dubious tract where you reckon I said one thing yet you misinterpreted it just so you can pitifully claim you've one-nilled me. Norwood, on balance, has not been our Kevin de Bruyne nor even our Michael de Bruyne, more so our Mrs de Bruyne, and it will take more than a few games for me to convince me otherwise.

pommpey
Ye once again you've posted a match report and I've commented talking about football and you think that's unacceptable for some reason. Sigh.

You've mentioned context. The context is he's been one of the best midfielders since Hecky came in 10 months ago. You've pointed out 2 individual games as proof he's been shit. I'm saying over 10 months he's been one of the best in the league. Picking a couple of games is the definition of ignoring context here.

Usual swagger comment - ye I will probably act like because you seem to think everyone who doesn't think Norwood is useless is an idiot. Each game that goes by and shows what a terrible take that is. Fair enough dislike him and insist he's shit if you must. But you call people who can see he isn't idiots. Then you moan about replies disagreeing with you. So so weird. Do you listen to the podcasts and think they're complete idiots for rating Norwood as well?

Not responding to the Barney comment as I'm actually trying to stick football. Something you usually love banging on about doing.
 



Well you're definitely wrong about Norwood. Fleck is still a decent player at this level imo. Seems the done thing is to go hysterical over certain players being finished whenever they have a poor game.
I think both of them were justifiably lambasted for their poor performances, this season and last! Are you suggesting that Norwood has improved because of something other than the arrival of competition, and the fast closing proximity of his contract expiry?

Or has his performance always been beyond criticism?

The truth is, he has flipped between average and good, because his good game relies on him not being closely marked, and his support players giving him more support to have the time to pick and choose a pass.

Please don’t tell me his dead ball delivery has not been rubbish for most of the last 12 months.

He is, and has been a decent player over the years, but he has not exactly covered himself in glory since the blades got their first PL promotion with him in the team.
 
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Ye once again you've posted a match report and I've commented talking about football and you think that's unacceptable for some reason. Sigh.

No. I'm pointing out that you are centring on a particular issue - you claiming Norwood has been fucking fabulous for a long time and us Norwood critics are all wrong - when the evidence suggests otherwise

You've mentioned context. The context is he's been one of the best midfielders since Hecky came in 10 months ago. You've pointed out 2 individual games as proof he's been shit. I'm saying over 10 months he's been one of the best in the league. Picking a couple of games is the definition of ignoring context here.

And I am maintaining that in context, the last few games of last season (including the playoffs) have seen Norwood put in 'bettering' performances representative of what you term his status as the best midfielder in the division. That's a pretty low bar for someone of meagre output and low goal scoring capability who regularly played us into danger last season and was again regularly closed down and pressed into dispossession.

Usual swagger comment - ye I will probably act like because you seem to think everyone who doesn't think Norwood is useless is an idiot. Each game that goes by and shows what a terrible take that is. Fair enough dislike him and insist he's shit if you must. But you call people who can see he isn't idiots. Then you moan about replies disagreeing with you. So so weird. Do you listen to the podcasts and think they're complete idiots for rating Norwood as well?

Again, you are great at dissecting my comments but poor of the understanding the context. You have form for this. I'd like to think you do this on purpose, but it's worrying you use it as a badge of verification. I'll explain again ... like I did with TTK but like that subject, don't expect you to understand because that requires you to take the veil of prejudice from your eyes. Those who are chirruping 'told you so' are idiots. Norwood has a vast back catalogue of midfield disasters to mine from over three unremarkable seasons now before we hail the new messiah. He's done well over about ten games, back end of last season and beginning of this. You can mitigate that against a hundred prior to that where he's been bobbar.

Not responding to the Barney comment as I'm actually trying to stick football. Something you usually love banging on about doing.

Good. Nice to know he's staying out of this gathering spat you seen intent on starting every time I post on here. Others just ignore me. Why is it so difficult for you?

pommpey
 
Regards Norwood
Allow him to play and he's one of the better midfielders in this league, a real asset
however close him down denying him space and he's offers very little, potentially crap
Mainly because he struggled with physicality, hence why PL clubs don't want him.

I like Norwood but we have to use him the right way.
Notice how he often seems to perform well in home matches but kind of disappears in away matches.

Regards Fleck
Not sure if it's his age or health problems when he collapsed on the pitch but I think he's lost a bit of edginess, hunger and pace ever since.
It's not that he's poor, think he's a consistent 6.5 or 7 out of 10 every match.
My issue is that he rarely plays really well these days and tends to play simple side ways and back passes most of the time.
Not saying Fleck is no longer important, think he's currently average Championship standard where as Doyle is above average Championship standard.

Doyle performance last night highlighted Flecks issues.
Doyle seems more mobile, a better tackler and more hungry to get forward and create chances.
Can see Doyle being a consistent minimum 7.5 out of 10 every match. Early days but he definitely looks a slight upgrade on Fleck.
 
TBF he could have bought a book and a chair last night so good was what was in front of him.

We've played four home games this season and between the four teams they've only managed 3 shots on target.

Millwall 1
Sunderland 2
Blackburn 0
Reading 0

It's absolutely incredible that we've only conceded 5 in our last 19 home games in a league like the Championship. Hopefully Hecky can get them recreating something similar away because if we can be even half that solid away we'll take some stopping.
 
Great reading Pommp's

This bit sums it up for me.

"A decent line up with Doyle starting for Fleck/McAtee instantly had great effect. Norwood now seems to have buckets of time to do what he likes to do and both of these were fantastic in being not just strong in the tackle, but clever in their forward development turning defence into attack. It gave Berge so much freedom to link and run at and past Readings defence and enabled McBurnie to terrorise and N'Daiye to create havoc. And when you have Baldock/Anel and RND/Lowe up the flanks, you have a team performance which is relentless and unforgiving, leaving Reading no room to manoeuvre and no place to go, so much so that they had not one shot on goal"

And I owe Norwood an apology, he's no where near as bad as I (and others) make him out to be, right now we need him in that team.
 
We've played four home games this season and between the four teams they've only managed 3 shots on target.

Millwall 1
Sunderland 2
Blackburn 0
Reading 0

It's absolutely incredible that we've only conceded 5 in our last 19 home games in a league like the Championship. Hopefully Hecky can get them recreating something similar away because if we can be even half that solid away we'll take some stopping.
Blimey

They’re some stats aren’t they

Wow
 
Maybe the recent improvement in Norwood is down to having players in midfield who can protect him to a certain extent and players in the team who are making runs and finding space to receive a pass. A good passer is not much use if there is no one to pass to, Norwood has never been the type that can take on players and beat them by dribbling, he is getting a lot more options at the moment when he has the ball.
 
And I owe Norwood an apology, he's no where near as bad as I (and others) make him out to be, right now we need him in that team.
I have also criticized Norwood many times, but also tried to notice when he plays well. He did good against Reading and of course we all enjoy when any of our players have a good game or play better than before. Keep it up lads!
 
No. I'm pointing out that you are centring on a particular issue - you claiming Norwood has been fucking fabulous for a long time and us Norwood critics are all wrong - when the evidence suggests otherwise
Ye I'm centering on a specific issue to do with football. What do you want people to do, talk about football but just in a vague way with no specific point? Weird

And I am maintaining that in context, the last few games of last season (including the playoffs) have seen Norwood put in 'bettering' performances representative of what you term his status as the best midfielder in the division.
OK so you're claiming he was shit until the last few games. I disagree I think he's been great since Hecky came in. Why is that so unacceptable to you that I comment on that on a match report? Why are you so thin skinned about this? You post a report every game with a really strong opinion then can't handle anyone who simply disagrees ABOUT FOOTBALL. Also I said one of the best midfielders in the division.
He's done well over about ten games, back end of last season and beginning of this. You can mitigate that against a hundred prior to that where he's been bobbar
I mean you were hysterical over him even after boro away. Can't have thought he was doing that great. You will never ever admit he's a good player for us no matter what.
Again, you are great at dissecting my comments but poor of the understanding the context. You have form for this. I'd like to think you do this on purpose, but it's worrying you use it as a badge of verification. I'll explain again ... like I did with TTK
You didnt explain anything. You just lied then declared yourself the king despite someone posting a link that totally showed you as lying.
Nice to know he's staying out of this gathering spat you seen intent on starting every time I post on here. Others just ignore me. Why is it so difficult for you?
Why should I need to ignore your match report just because I disagree about Oli Norwood? This gathering spat is because ypu seem to think I'm really out of order for saying Norwood isn't shit.
 
Oh! You're back! Great!

Ye I'm centering on a specific issue to do with football. What do you want people to do, talk about football but just in a vague way with no specific point? Weird

Good. Makes a change. Usually it's straight to the ad hominem magazine for six bullets of bullshit

OK so you're claiming he was shit until the last few games. I disagree I think he's been great since Hecky came in. Why is that so unacceptable to you that I comment on that on a match report? Why are you so thin skinned about this? You post a report every game with a really strong opinion then can't handle anyone who simply disagrees ABOUT FOOTBALL. Also I said one of the best midfielders in the division.

Not at all. People disagree. Most of them disagree with a bit of dignity and detail. You're sat in the shallows lurking to have a chomp every single time. Can't see what the obsession is really. If you find my opinion so hideous, why not just ignore me and go play with the paperboys? Or is it an itch that just HAS to be scratched?

I mean you were hysterical over him even after boro away. Can't have thought he was doing that great. You will never ever admit he's a good player for us no matter what.

You've not actually read my last two reports, have you? No. You haven't. That's okay.

You didnt explain anything. You just lied then declared yourself the king despite someone posting a link that totally showed you as lying.

Jesus. It's like conversing with Katie Hopkins, isn't it?

Why should I need to ignore your match report just because I disagree about Oli Norwood? This gathering spat is because ypu seem to think I'm really out of order for saying Norwood isn't shit.

I'm not saying you are 'out of order'. Show me where I said that? I'm saying 'I disagree with you'. I also have shown why. You however are the hysterical one, Bashamed. Calm the fuck down eh?

pommpey
 
Good. Makes a change. Usually it's straight to the ad hominem magazine for six bullets of bullshit
Brilliant
Not at all. People disagree. Most of them disagree with a bit of dignity and detail. You're sat in the shallows lurking to have a chomp every single time.
Rarely comment. We rarely argue on the match reports. My comment was below.
Norwood been one of the best midfielders in the league for last 10 months. The people telling you they told you so on him are right.
Is that really so bad. Does it lack dignity or detail? Again, why does this offend you so much? It's purely a football disagreement.
You've not actually read my last two reports, have you? No. You haven't. That's okay.
Ye and I'm just noting that up to game 4 this season he'd apparently been wank and should have been binned off.
Jesus. It's like conversing with Katie Hopkins, isn't it?
Haha it is actually yes. She also holds views such as yours on taking the knee and I imagine they are based on similar reasoning to you.
I'm not saying you are 'out of order'. Show me where I said that? I'm saying 'I disagree with you'. I also have shown why. You however are the hysterical one, Bashamed. Calm the fuck down eh?
You've made it an argument not related to football (the almost unforgivable sin when anyone else does that). Because I said the people saying they told you so about Oli Norwood are right....
 
Rarely comment. We rarely argue on the match reports. My comment was below.

But you're always ready with the invective. Only since I have called you out on it have you switched tack to talking about football. Well done about that. Things are getting better ...

Is that really so bad. Does it lack dignity or detail? Again, why does this offend you so much? It's purely a football disagreement.

You're replying to yourself there, kiddo. Tell me again who is hysterical ...

Ye and I'm just noting that up to game 4 this season he'd apparently been wank and should have been binned off.

Yep. He was poor first two games. No massive improvement thereafter until his free kick. I'll give you that he has been marginally better than the last season in the PL where he was fucking abject. And under Slav it was comical how he even got picked given his poor productivity and lack of impact

Haha it is actually yes. She also holds views such as yours on taking the knee and I imagine they are based on similar reasoning to you.

You've not got it, have you Bashamed?

You've made it an argument not related to football (the almost unforgivable sin when anyone else does that). Because I said the people saying they told you so about Oli Norwood are right....

But people aren't right. Let me explain ...

Post lockdown, the phenomenon of Wilderball had clearly been studied and easily countered. The key was Norwood spraying passes out to the wingbacks to start the old 'overlapping centrebacks' schtick, so successful into the first PL season but pish thereafter the COVID break. But Norwood could only play one way and so could Wilder, and so could the players, yet he was getting mopped up regularly out in the middle of the park. So much so that during our second season anything he did was slapped out of him. And we still couldn't change. The fact that the players were so ingrained in Wilderball was evident when Slav appeared and tried to change it - we had the same players out there using a different system and they hated it and we were underwhelming. Last bit of last season Norwood stopped hollywooding and started playing acceptable defensive midfield tactics, especially when it gave us the capability to get into the playoffs and we started winning. See also the latter games where the nexus of Jimmy Fleck and himself has been finally broken. Last game he had so much time (an essential element for Norwood to play well) because alongside him was a young terrier who kept Reading occupied and also, their CMs were pretty ineffective in closing Norwood down, something I expected Ince to brief against at HT.

Hope this makes a bit of sense for you Bashamed. I mean, I've only been fucking banging on about it for two fucking years now petal. You however seem determined to one nil me over TTK, which as I keep telling you, you're ball is bouncing around in the BLUT.

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But you're always ready with the invective. Only since I have called you out on it have you switched tack to talking about football. Well done about that. Things are getting better
Ye it's always football related on here. You try to make it otherwise so you can say people are trolling you.

You're replying to yourself there, kiddo. Tell me again who is hysterical ..
Ye I was asking if what I said was that bad (that the people saying you are wrong about Norwood are correct). No answer so I assume you indeed find that unacceptable.
I'll give you that he has been marginally better than the last season in the PL where he was fucking abject. And under Slav it was comical how he even got picked given his poor productivity and lack of impact
So he's been marginally better this season than the one in the prem? Or since Hecky? Astonishing view point. Which is why I've responded and why we're now having this argument.
You've not got it, have you Bashamed?
If you mean your inconsistent and contradictory knee stance then I very much have it.

Last bit of last season Norwood stopped hollywooding
You actually think Norwood has improved because he's decided to stop showing off with his passes 🙈 Such basic nonsense.

Hope this makes a bit of sense for you Bashamed. I mean, I've only been fucking banging on about it for two fucking years now petal.
Ye and it's not at all reflective of reality. And yet still you bang on about it. That's why I'm pointing out I think you're wrong. Do you understand that is part of the football discussion? How much longer you gonna bang on about it? Maybe if he's one of the main men and we go up you might consider you could be wrong?
You however seem determined to one nil me over TTK, which as I keep telling you, you're ball is bouncing around in the BLUT.
Well you posted some very long winded and horrible stuff about taking the knee to me. So when I see you trying to change your story and claim views you never held, I call it out. Don't really care how you feel about that.

If I was deliberately trying to get at you all the time I'd have pointed out how ridiculous you were hysterically claiming Millwall would run straight through us. Another superb call.
 



100% agree with your assesment that Doyle was the difference for us, having that extra threat in middle gave norwood more space, also gave Berge more space.

We need to make Doyle a permanent signing. He can be our box to box midfielder for the next decade.
 

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