My take ...

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Must admit at the start of the season I had a few disagreements with your reports , but today's and the last few weeks you've mellowed and markings have been based on performance and not favouritism of players (as I saw it).
Great My Take today, apart from the refs 1 point, why?. I can only think it was for putting his boots on the right feet because it was the only thing he did get right today.

There's no favouritism. Basham - seemingly my favourite continuously puts in a sound performance and rarely has a shit game. Mr 'Does The Right Thing' and yes, now he's not playing, we are less than the sum of our parts. Bogle - developing as a great player with some rough edges to file off. Sharp - deadly when he has half a yard or his marker has a lapse of concentration.

pommpey
 

We have been on this roundabout before so I won't bother going over old ground I get you don't like him, to give him a lower mark than others is petty, at least you are consistent I suppose.

What is to like based upon a playing performance based on no goals and shithousery? Tell me exactly what he did today which deserved a higher mark, save for play better than sub-standard?

pommpey
 
What is to like based upon a playing performance based on no goals and shithousery? Tell me exactly what he did today which deserved a higher mark, save for play better than sub-standard?

pommpey
Like I said I'm not going on this roundabout again, your first sentence says you have made your mind up before a ball gets kicked. As an aside would his score have been better if he had missed two sitters and been kicked in the air without a penalty being awarded. And that's my last word on the subject.
 
Good report.

For me there were no bad performances today but I also thought Davies was the weakest player, he seems to want to come inside every time and then narrows his options and gets closed down. A decent LCB would open themselves up and have an option either inside or outside.

Thought Fleck was far more effective than Berge who seemed to disappear for 20 mins first half and then looked knackered by the time he was subbed. A few decent bits of play in between.

McBurnie at 6.5/10 is a fair mark for me. It was a slightly above average performance, did a lot of defensive work well and contributed to the MGW chance and the penalty. Half a mark off for the lack of finesse on the diving header first half 🤦🏻‍♂️

Baldock would have been my MoM today, crossing output was shite but he was back to furious George again.
 
Like I said I'm not going on this roundabout again, your first sentence says you have made your mind up before a ball gets kicked. As an aside would his score have been better if he had missed two sitters and been kicked in the air without a penalty being awarded. And that's my last word on the subject.

Why ask the question and say 'and that's my last word on the subject'? Why engage when you yourself already have your mind made up?

FYI (and it's my opinion) MGW poses at least 50% more threat than McBurnie ever does. McBurnie is not deft with the ball at his feet and lacks pace. And never gets fouled in the area because of his positional incompetence.

Thanks for debating.

pommpey
 
What do you expect, Metal? And what do you define as 'playing well'?

For me, 'playing well' denotes he was involved in creating goals and chances (only one chance) and dominated their centrebacks having at least five or six attempts on goal saved or hit the post/bar. Didn't see much of that. Yes, he ran about a bit, linked better with MGW and the midfield and as ever was present in our defence, but let's not get carried away. An improved performance doesn't get marks, that is relativism. I mark players on their output and you say 'again' there ... so he's played out of his skin before?

When, exactly? He is a centre forward and hasn't scored for 18 months. Evidence please.

pommpey
He warrants the old Porter song
If McBurnie scores we’re on the pitch
 
I thought McBurnie offered next to nothing other than throwing arms up in the air in dismay at the referee. Of course, no one seems to even expect him to score any more.
 
Cracking match and an end result we are somewhat undeserved of. I though we looked, as a team, very much better connected from front to back today against Bournemouth who are where they are because they are well disciplined and effective. First half we went at them and should have been a couple up in truth. Second half they pegged us back and did the same but didn't test Fodders much. Save for MGWs one on one and a fucking stonewall penalty ... and Bournemouths niggly shitousery I can't say I am too dischuffed with what we showed.

Obviously with his choices limited HJ&SM deceised to go with what they started with against QPR and rather than look a tad fragile at times on Tuesday we bulldozed at the Cherries and negated any of their playmakers in the first 45. Solanke was well marshalled and the outside threats covered fairly well. The old wingback partnership of Baldock and Stevens seems to be re-gelling but Davies worries me at times. I'd much prefer JLT in that LCB role and we missed his throws today. Midfield in the first half I thought we would be outplayed and bypassed in the midfield especially in the Billing vs Berge area but we managed. And for once, McBurnie's headers seemed to be finding people which led to a great deal more possession.

We still allow teams to corral us into the wide, passing-drill areas. Bournemouth are good at snuffing out danger there and hunting us down. We do need t learn the value of the middle of the park being a route to goal and if anything a Fleck-Berge-Norwood arrangement with Berge more advanced in the Duffy role picking up and running at.

It's put us in a decent position in the top six as I write this if a little games-played-heavy compared with Forest and Boro. But a point against a top two side is valuable and keeps us in the mix.

Foderingham 6/10: Again not a massive tsk on him thanks to the defence. His distribution was a bit iffy at times, but it's yet another clean sheet bonus for him
Baldock 6.5/10: Another characteristic blood and guts performance from him. Had Dembele mostly sorted and went up the pitch looking for opportunities
Uremovic 7.5/10: Seems to be settling in well, and very much in the wars against a shithousery front line. His miss ... um, yeah. Think in truth he was offside anyway from the first ball in on Davies's head
Egan 7.5/10: Liked his output today. Coming out of position to intercept and head and marshalling Solanke into fairly harmless positions
Davies 5/10: Still looks fragile at times. The hospital pass to Fodders my case in point. Elsewhere he was okay, but JLT is a better option
Stevens 7/10: Back in the game now and battling well for his position and deservedly picked ahead of RND
Norwood 7/10: Another decent performance from him with few mistakes and no thumping it long any more. Worked hard to get involved
Berge 6.5/10: Glimpses of greatness but second half faded somewhat
Fleck 6.5/10: Another Duracell performance from JF. Faded a bit in the second half but covers ground and gets stuck in. A bit unfortunate with the yellow card
MGW 7.5/10: Fucking player. He is just a class above everyone else. Should have buried his one on one but the goalkeeper shakes the dice on those, and was unlucky in the first half with a difficult opportunity saved by their keeper. The tackle on him was a stonewall penalty
McBurnie 6.5/10: A lot better from him. Linked well, fought for every ball and limited his ref-baiting somewhat.

Osborne 5/10: No idea why he replaced Fleck. Usual runs-about-but-fuck-all-to-show-for-it outing
Hourihane 5/10: Not a massive amount to mark him on

Ref 1/10: Fucking useless. Needed an early warning/yellow card to Smith and Cook for their antics and needs downmarking by the EFL/FA for his blindness to the kick on MGW. That wasn't a case of 'seen them given' more 'they get given' except for that bellend.

BTW, an interesting stat on our proficiency with regard goals and Mr Billy Sharp, who in interview before the game gestured toward a few more weeks before he will be back. That worries me intensely. We need goals and wins on this run in if we aren't to deflate and drop out of the battle. Sharp is our only answer ... over to you Fallowfield

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pommpey
Scored the ref too highly. Other than that, spot on.
 
Cracking match and an end result we are somewhat undeserved of. I though we looked, as a team, very much better connected from front to back today against Bournemouth who are where they are because they are well disciplined and effective. First half we went at them and should have been a couple up in truth. Second half they pegged us back and did the same but didn't test Fodders much. Save for MGWs one on one and a fucking stonewall penalty ... and Bournemouths niggly shitousery I can't say I am too dischuffed with what we showed.

Obviously with his choices limited HJ&SM deceised to go with what they started with against QPR and rather than look a tad fragile at times on Tuesday we bulldozed at the Cherries and negated any of their playmakers in the first 45. Solanke was well marshalled and the outside threats covered fairly well. The old wingback partnership of Baldock and Stevens seems to be re-gelling but Davies worries me at times. I'd much prefer JLT in that LCB role and we missed his throws today. Midfield in the first half I thought we would be outplayed and bypassed in the midfield especially in the Billing vs Berge area but we managed. And for once, McBurnie's headers seemed to be finding people which led to a great deal more possession.

We still allow teams to corral us into the wide, passing-drill areas. Bournemouth are good at snuffing out danger there and hunting us down. We do need t learn the value of the middle of the park being a route to goal and if anything a Fleck-Berge-Norwood arrangement with Berge more advanced in the Duffy role picking up and running at.

It's put us in a decent position in the top six as I write this if a little games-played-heavy compared with Forest and Boro. But a point against a top two side is valuable and keeps us in the mix.

Foderingham 6/10: Again not a massive tsk on him thanks to the defence. His distribution was a bit iffy at times, but it's yet another clean sheet bonus for him
Baldock 6.5/10: Another characteristic blood and guts performance from him. Had Dembele mostly sorted and went up the pitch looking for opportunities
Uremovic 7.5/10: Seems to be settling in well, and very much in the wars against a shithousery front line. His miss ... um, yeah. Think in truth he was offside anyway from the first ball in on Davies's head
Egan 7.5/10: Liked his output today. Coming out of position to intercept and head and marshalling Solanke into fairly harmless positions
Davies 5/10: Still looks fragile at times. The hospital pass to Fodders my case in point. Elsewhere he was okay, but JLT is a better option
Stevens 7/10: Back in the game now and battling well for his position and deservedly picked ahead of RND
Norwood 7/10: Another decent performance from him with few mistakes and no thumping it long any more. Worked hard to get involved
Berge 6.5/10: Glimpses of greatness but second half faded somewhat
Fleck 6.5/10: Another Duracell performance from JF. Faded a bit in the second half but covers ground and gets stuck in. A bit unfortunate with the yellow card
MGW 7.5/10: Fucking player. He is just a class above everyone else. Should have buried his one on one but the goalkeeper shakes the dice on those, and was unlucky in the first half with a difficult opportunity saved by their keeper. The tackle on him was a stonewall penalty
McBurnie 6.5/10: A lot better from him. Linked well, fought for every ball and limited his ref-baiting somewhat.

Osborne 5/10: No idea why he replaced Fleck. Usual runs-about-but-fuck-all-to-show-for-it outing
Hourihane 5/10: Not a massive amount to mark him on

Ref 1/10: Fucking useless. Needed an early warning/yellow card to Smith and Cook for their antics and needs downmarking by the EFL/FA for his blindness to the kick on MGW. That wasn't a case of 'seen them given' more 'they get given' except for that bellend.

BTW, an interesting stat on our proficiency with regard goals and Mr Billy Sharp, who in interview before the game gestured toward a few more weeks before he will be back. That worries me intensely. We need goals and wins on this run in if we aren't to deflate and drop out of the battle. Sharp is our only answer ... over to you Fallowfield

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pommpey
Agree with your scores, apart from that given to the ref. Bit generous there I thought.
 
I’m a Berge fan, I think he has tremendous ability, but he’s got to get better at knowing when to switch up the tempo. He got caught a few times yesterday by players blindsiding him, largely due to him dwelling on the ball a bit too casually. In a game as physical and fast as the one yesterday, you’re not going to get the sort of time on the ball he seemed to believe at times.
 

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