My take ...

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I thought both Fleck and Berge started slowly but got better as the game went on. Fleck made 2 great late runs into the box - the latter resulting in the wonderful pass to Bogle for the dreamy goal. Berge made the inch perfect forward pass into space for the first.

Both these moves would not have happened last year - credit to Hecky for progressing our play this way.
 

Pretty bloody wonderful reaction to pinch the win off Birmingham City tonight. We dominated the first half and typically had zero efforts on target. Seems that City were nervy about our resurgence and resorted to isolating us in the wide areas to allow us to cough up possession or drift the ball across the box from side to side without any killer pass to bring one of the forwards to run onto and get on goal. It was pleasing and frustrating in equal measures because again, we were playing a team very much not feeling the love and with far more pedigree than the onfield performance suggested. We pushed them up the pitch a lot and went at then and it looked ace. Except we scored nil. The backline was pretty unpressed and the midfield unspectacular in that first 45. We looked to harry them down the flanks and from that came a fucking stonewall spot kick waved away by a flakey ref. Their expected front line was easily scooped up and they couldn't deal without 5-3-2, even with the engine room not really warmed up and firing.

Second half it was much of the same even though it was evident Bowyer had put a rocket up their arses about allowing us to play in their half too much, Although we looked purposeful at times, we wasted passes and crosses, fucked up some clear goes on goal and it came as no surprise t see them break out, feed Taylor and for him to knock the ball past a flat footed Fodders. Feared the worst there to be honest, whither us being managed out to a 1-0 defeat as we were at BDTBL, or for us to go further behind trying to respond. It nearly happened at one stage but Fodders got down well but fuck me, what have we been wanting for ages ... a midfielder to see and anticipate Billy's experienced run (he'd been doing it all game) thread a pass and him to slot home an equaliser. Billy is a proven goalscorer (pay attention Fallowfield, you twerp) but is only as good as those who feed him. It's a percentage game, and he plays it to the letter. Give him five opportunities in a game like tonight and he'll score two. Tap the fucking ball about out wide, faff endlessly until Norwood misplaces a ball (it happened tonight) and he'll stand with his arms up in the air. All he needs is half a chance, half a yard and a centre back like Roberts not watching him moving, and he's in.

Great to see also we didn't go for the draw and despite the Sky co-commentator's horrific anti-SUFC bias, the offside claims against Sharp in the initial pass forward were correct but Bogle's 'handball' wasn't. It was nice to see him set against a fucking passing contact-trip on Bogle and an inconsistent camera angle on both offside and handball. He must be sat in the studio shithouse right now issuing papercuts to his own fucking helmet in rage at the ref's decision. Awww. Whorra fucking shame. But from that offsie came Bogle's well worked winner. Whoda thought our right wingback and centre forward could be so prolific?

Good game management to the end too. Birmingham looked as bereft of ideas as we have earlier in the season when losing at home. I hope everyone who took a mask to the game tonight sees their idiocy and as for the whistles, be nice to see them lube them up and insert them into their individual balloon-knots. Strange how we have been 'victims' of two fan protests in the past five years yet the outcome has been pretty much the same, with the same player being involved in the coup de grace.

Foderingham 6.5/10: Loses a mark for not at least diving for Taylor's effort. Great stop a few minutes later though. Still gives me the leaky hoop over his delayed clearances
RND 7/10: Thought he did very well tonight. He's far from the finished article but tonight gave a lot up that flank linking well and causing problems for their right side defence
Davies 7/10: Good to see him back tonight and fairly solid in their air on on the deck
Egan 7/10: Another better performance from Egan given recent outings
Basham 6/10: First half had an uncharacteristically error-strewn outing. He didn't look quite the Basham we'd expected but this picked up somewhat after the break with better forays forward and a lovely knock-over
Bogle 8.5/10: Still a dangerous, effective asset for our side and worthy of MotM for me. Sometimes a bit exposed when so far up the pitch but when you have Basham covering your arcs, that largely isn't a problem. A very well taken goal from him
Fleck 6.5/10: Good to see him back and see him fit again and going the full ninety. But fuck me it was a typical 'John' (out on the pitch) and 'Jimmy' in front of goal with so much time to pick a spot, not straight at the fucking goalkeeper
Norwood 7/10: Another fairly good performance from him. Saw him commit to some good tackles and interceptions and some of his balls forward and passes were good. But some weren't. And at times, when other United players have the ball, he doesn't willingly show, run into space or link, he just 'points'
Berge 5/10: Save for the last ten, I thought he was pretty ordinary througout. Yep, made the pass to Billy for his goal, but you can't mark 90 minutes on that. Good to see him finish the game and hope he improves with time
Ndaiye 7/10: Decent match for Iliman. Again, seems to be the only player with a clue how to hold the ball, go past opponents and look threatening enough to drag players out of position to create opportunities for others. Still not understanding why he never completes a match.
Sharp 7/10: Grafted for the game and for the goal but didn't have that many chances overall. Needs to stay the fuck out of trouble. He has our backing whatever and needs to act responsibly and show leadership in times of tension rather than get all in-someone's-face about it. Pushing Ndaiye away is the right thing, getting all shovey and cunty is the way to risk being dismissed.

McBurnie 7/10: Good few minutes from him. Made himself a pest and was in the right areas defending and attacking
McGoldrick 3/10: Nowt much to go on. Weak shot at the keeper. Should have brought Jebbo on TBH

Overall it's a good away win and a decent message that Sheffield United is finally back in business in this division, even if we badly lack the potatoes to get anything out of the playoffs (if we scrape it) and absolutely need the whole team clearing out of we fluked a promotion. But we have a long way to go, a challenging next match and a butal February which will be doubtlessly plagued with injuries and suspensions which will challenge our squad in terms of strength in depth.

Well dome United. Well done Hecky.

pommpey
Your marks are far too high for Bogle and Norwood. Bogle's brilliant moving forward but a car crash at defending. He can't be continually bailed out by Basham. Norwood's delivery, on the whole, was piss poor tonight although he's certainly getting more tackles in.
 
Some pleasing one touch triangles around the brum midfield with deft touches and good movement
Reminiscent of our promotion year football
As Karen Carpenter put it
And it's getting better
Even without Wilder
Getting better every day
Carney. Like our midfielder who scored the winner at Bolton in the FA cup those years ago.
 
Pretty bloody wonderful reaction to pinch the win off Birmingham City tonight. We dominated the first half and typically had zero efforts on target. Seems that City were nervy about our resurgence and resorted to isolating us in the wide areas to allow us to cough up possession or drift the ball across the box from side to side without any killer pass to bring one of the forwards to run onto and get on goal. It was pleasing and frustrating in equal measures because again, we were playing a team very much not feeling the love and with far more pedigree than the onfield performance suggested. We pushed them up the pitch a lot and went at then and it looked ace. Except we scored nil. The backline was pretty unpressed and the midfield unspectacular in that first 45. We looked to harry them down the flanks and from that came a fucking stonewall spot kick waved away by a flakey ref. Their expected front line was easily scooped up and they couldn't deal without 5-3-2, even with the engine room not really warmed up and firing.

Second half it was much of the same even though it was evident Bowyer had put a rocket up their arses about allowing us to play in their half too much, Although we looked purposeful at times, we wasted passes and crosses, fucked up some clear goes on goal and it came as no surprise t see them break out, feed Taylor and for him to knock the ball past a flat footed Fodders. Feared the worst there to be honest, whither us being managed out to a 1-0 defeat as we were at BDTBL, or for us to go further behind trying to respond. It nearly happened at one stage but Fodders got down well but fuck me, what have we been wanting for ages ... a midfielder to see and anticipate Billy's experienced run (he'd been doing it all game) thread a pass and him to slot home an equaliser. Billy is a proven goalscorer (pay attention Fallowfield, you twerp) but is only as good as those who feed him. It's a percentage game, and he plays it to the letter. Give him five opportunities in a game like tonight and he'll score two. Tap the fucking ball about out wide, faff endlessly until Norwood misplaces a ball (it happened tonight) and he'll stand with his arms up in the air. All he needs is half a chance, half a yard and a centre back like Roberts not watching him moving, and he's in.

Great to see also we didn't go for the draw and despite the Sky co-commentator's horrific anti-SUFC bias, the offside claims against Sharp in the initial pass forward were correct but Bogle's 'handball' wasn't. It was nice to see him set against a fucking passing contact-trip on Bogle and an inconsistent camera angle on both offside and handball. He must be sat in the studio shithouse right now issuing papercuts to his own fucking helmet in rage at the ref's decision. Awww. Whorra fucking shame. But from that offsie came Bogle's well worked winner. Whoda thought our right wingback and centre forward could be so prolific?

Good game management to the end too. Birmingham looked as bereft of ideas as we have earlier in the season when losing at home. I hope everyone who took a mask to the game tonight sees their idiocy and as for the whistles, be nice to see them lube them up and insert them into their individual balloon-knots. Strange how we have been 'victims' of two fan protests in the past five years yet the outcome has been pretty much the same, with the same player being involved in the coup de grace.

Foderingham 6.5/10: Loses a mark for not at least diving for Taylor's effort. Great stop a few minutes later though. Still gives me the leaky hoop over his delayed clearances
RND 7/10: Thought he did very well tonight. He's far from the finished article but tonight gave a lot up that flank linking well and causing problems for their right side defence
Davies 7/10: Good to see him back tonight and fairly solid in their air on on the deck
Egan 7/10: Another better performance from Egan given recent outings
Basham 6/10: First half had an uncharacteristically error-strewn outing. He didn't look quite the Basham we'd expected but this picked up somewhat after the break with better forays forward and a lovely knock-over
Bogle 8.5/10: Still a dangerous, effective asset for our side and worthy of MotM for me. Sometimes a bit exposed when so far up the pitch but when you have Basham covering your arcs, that largely isn't a problem. A very well taken goal from him
Fleck 6.5/10: Good to see him back and see him fit again and going the full ninety. But fuck me it was a typical 'John' (out on the pitch) and 'Jimmy' in front of goal with so much time to pick a spot, not straight at the fucking goalkeeper
Norwood 7/10: Another fairly good performance from him. Saw him commit to some good tackles and interceptions and some of his balls forward and passes were good. But some weren't. And at times, when other United players have the ball, he doesn't willingly show, run into space or link, he just 'points'
Berge 5/10: Save for the last ten, I thought he was pretty ordinary througout. Yep, made the pass to Billy for his goal, but you can't mark 90 minutes on that. Good to see him finish the game and hope he improves with time
Ndaiye 7/10: Decent match for Iliman. Again, seems to be the only player with a clue how to hold the ball, go past opponents and look threatening enough to drag players out of position to create opportunities for others. Still not understanding why he never completes a match.
Sharp 7/10: Grafted for the game and for the goal but didn't have that many chances overall. Needs to stay the fuck out of trouble. He has our backing whatever and needs to act responsibly and show leadership in times of tension rather than get all in-someone's-face about it. Pushing Ndaiye away is the right thing, getting all shovey and cunty is the way to risk being dismissed.

McBurnie 7/10: Good few minutes from him. Made himself a pest and was in the right areas defending and attacking
McGoldrick 3/10: Nowt much to go on. Weak shot at the keeper. Should have brought Jebbo on TBH

Overall it's a good away win and a decent message that Sheffield United is finally back in business in this division, even if we badly lack the potatoes to get anything out of the playoffs (if we scrape it) and absolutely need the whole team clearing out of we fluked a promotion. But we have a long way to go, a challenging next match and a butal February which will be doubtlessly plagued with injuries and suspensions which will challenge our squad in terms of strength in depth.

Well dome United. Well done Hecky.

pommpey
Agree
 
Pretty bloody wonderful reaction to pinch the win off Birmingham City tonight. We dominated the first half and typically had zero efforts on target. Seems that City were nervy about our resurgence and resorted to isolating us in the wide areas to allow us to cough up possession or drift the ball across the box from side to side without any killer pass to bring one of the forwards to run onto and get on goal. It was pleasing and frustrating in equal measures because again, we were playing a team very much not feeling the love and with far more pedigree than the onfield performance suggested. We pushed them up the pitch a lot and went at then and it looked ace. Except we scored nil. The backline was pretty unpressed and the midfield unspectacular in that first 45. We looked to harry them down the flanks and from that came a fucking stonewall spot kick waved away by a flakey ref. Their expected front line was easily scooped up and they couldn't deal without 5-3-2, even with the engine room not really warmed up and firing.

Second half it was much of the same even though it was evident Bowyer had put a rocket up their arses about allowing us to play in their half too much, Although we looked purposeful at times, we wasted passes and crosses, fucked up some clear goes on goal and it came as no surprise t see them break out, feed Taylor and for him to knock the ball past a flat footed Fodders. Feared the worst there to be honest, whither us being managed out to a 1-0 defeat as we were at BDTBL, or for us to go further behind trying to respond. It nearly happened at one stage but Fodders got down well but fuck me, what have we been wanting for ages ... a midfielder to see and anticipate Billy's experienced run (he'd been doing it all game) thread a pass and him to slot home an equaliser. Billy is a proven goalscorer (pay attention Fallowfield, you twerp) but is only as good as those who feed him. It's a percentage game, and he plays it to the letter. Give him five opportunities in a game like tonight and he'll score two. Tap the fucking ball about out wide, faff endlessly until Norwood misplaces a ball (it happened tonight) and he'll stand with his arms up in the air. All he needs is half a chance, half a yard and a centre back like Roberts not watching him moving, and he's in.

Great to see also we didn't go for the draw and despite the Sky co-commentator's horrific anti-SUFC bias, the offside claims against Sharp in the initial pass forward were correct but Bogle's 'handball' wasn't. It was nice to see him set against a fucking passing contact-trip on Bogle and an inconsistent camera angle on both offside and handball. He must be sat in the studio shithouse right now issuing papercuts to his own fucking helmet in rage at the ref's decision. Awww. Whorra fucking shame. But from that offsie came Bogle's well worked winner. Whoda thought our right wingback and centre forward could be so prolific?

Good game management to the end too. Birmingham looked as bereft of ideas as we have earlier in the season when losing at home. I hope everyone who took a mask to the game tonight sees their idiocy and as for the whistles, be nice to see them lube them up and insert them into their individual balloon-knots. Strange how we have been 'victims' of two fan protests in the past five years yet the outcome has been pretty much the same, with the same player being involved in the coup de grace.

Foderingham 6.5/10: Loses a mark for not at least diving for Taylor's effort. Great stop a few minutes later though. Still gives me the leaky hoop over his delayed clearances
RND 7/10: Thought he did very well tonight. He's far from the finished article but tonight gave a lot up that flank linking well and causing problems for their right side defence
Davies 7/10: Good to see him back tonight and fairly solid in their air on on the deck
Egan 7/10: Another better performance from Egan given recent outings
Basham 6/10: First half had an uncharacteristically error-strewn outing. He didn't look quite the Basham we'd expected but this picked up somewhat after the break with better forays forward and a lovely knock-over
Bogle 8.5/10: Still a dangerous, effective asset for our side and worthy of MotM for me. Sometimes a bit exposed when so far up the pitch but when you have Basham covering your arcs, that largely isn't a problem. A very well taken goal from him
Fleck 6.5/10: Good to see him back and see him fit again and going the full ninety. But fuck me it was a typical 'John' (out on the pitch) and 'Jimmy' in front of goal with so much time to pick a spot, not straight at the fucking goalkeeper
Norwood 7/10: Another fairly good performance from him. Saw him commit to some good tackles and interceptions and some of his balls forward and passes were good. But some weren't. And at times, when other United players have the ball, he doesn't willingly show, run into space or link, he just 'points'
Berge 5/10: Save for the last ten, I thought he was pretty ordinary througout. Yep, made the pass to Billy for his goal, but you can't mark 90 minutes on that. Good to see him finish the game and hope he improves with time
Ndaiye 7/10: Decent match for Iliman. Again, seems to be the only player with a clue how to hold the ball, go past opponents and look threatening enough to drag players out of position to create opportunities for others. Still not understanding why he never completes a match.
Sharp 7/10: Grafted for the game and for the goal but didn't have that many chances overall. Needs to stay the fuck out of trouble. He has our backing whatever and needs to act responsibly and show leadership in times of tension rather than get all in-someone's-face about it. Pushing Ndaiye away is the right thing, getting all shovey and cunty is the way to risk being dismissed.

McBurnie 7/10: Good few minutes from him. Made himself a pest and was in the right areas defending and attacking
McGoldrick 3/10: Nowt much to go on. Weak shot at the keeper. Should have brought Jebbo on TBH

Overall it's a good away win and a decent message that Sheffield United is finally back in business in this division, even if we badly lack the potatoes to get anything out of the playoffs (if we scrape it) and absolutely need the whole team clearing out of we fluked a promotion. But we have a long way to go, a challenging next match and a butal February which will be doubtlessly plagued with injuries and suspensions which will challenge our squad in terms of strength in depth.

Well dome United. Well done Hecky.

pommpey
Great report, that’s how I saw it too
 
Fleck should be no where near that starting line up against wba and probably for rest of season, he’s awful, not a forward pass in him
 
Pretty bloody wonderful reaction to pinch the win off Birmingham City tonight. We dominated the first half and typically had zero efforts on target. Seems that City were nervy about our resurgence and resorted to isolating us in the wide areas to allow us to cough up possession or drift the ball across the box from side to side without any killer pass to bring one of the forwards to run onto and get on goal. It was pleasing and frustrating in equal measures because again, we were playing a team very much not feeling the love and with far more pedigree than the onfield performance suggested. We pushed them up the pitch a lot and went at then and it looked ace. Except we scored nil. The backline was pretty unpressed and the midfield unspectacular in that first 45. We looked to harry them down the flanks and from that came a fucking stonewall spot kick waved away by a flakey ref. Their expected front line was easily scooped up and they couldn't deal without 5-3-2, even with the engine room not really warmed up and firing.

Second half it was much of the same even though it was evident Bowyer had put a rocket up their arses about allowing us to play in their half too much, Although we looked purposeful at times, we wasted passes and crosses, fucked up some clear goes on goal and it came as no surprise t see them break out, feed Taylor and for him to knock the ball past a flat footed Fodders. Feared the worst there to be honest, whither us being managed out to a 1-0 defeat as we were at BDTBL, or for us to go further behind trying to respond. It nearly happened at one stage but Fodders got down well but fuck me, what have we been wanting for ages ... a midfielder to see and anticipate Billy's experienced run (he'd been doing it all game) thread a pass and him to slot home an equaliser. Billy is a proven goalscorer (pay attention Fallowfield, you twerp) but is only as good as those who feed him. It's a percentage game, and he plays it to the letter. Give him five opportunities in a game like tonight and he'll score two. Tap the fucking ball about out wide, faff endlessly until Norwood misplaces a ball (it happened tonight) and he'll stand with his arms up in the air. All he needs is half a chance, half a yard and a centre back like Roberts not watching him moving, and he's in.

Great to see also we didn't go for the draw and despite the Sky co-commentator's horrific anti-SUFC bias, the offside claims against Sharp in the initial pass forward were correct but Bogle's 'handball' wasn't. It was nice to see him set against a fucking passing contact-trip on Bogle and an inconsistent camera angle on both offside and handball. He must be sat in the studio shithouse right now issuing papercuts to his own fucking helmet in rage at the ref's decision. Awww. Whorra fucking shame. But from that offsie came Bogle's well worked winner. Whoda thought our right wingback and centre forward could be so prolific?

Good game management to the end too. Birmingham looked as bereft of ideas as we have earlier in the season when losing at home. I hope everyone who took a mask to the game tonight sees their idiocy and as for the whistles, be nice to see them lube them up and insert them into their individual balloon-knots. Strange how we have been 'victims' of two fan protests in the past five years yet the outcome has been pretty much the same, with the same player being involved in the coup de grace.

Foderingham 6.5/10: Loses a mark for not at least diving for Taylor's effort. Great stop a few minutes later though. Still gives me the leaky hoop over his delayed clearances
RND 7/10: Thought he did very well tonight. He's far from the finished article but tonight gave a lot up that flank linking well and causing problems for their right side defence
Davies 7/10: Good to see him back tonight and fairly solid in their air on on the deck
Egan 7/10: Another better performance from Egan given recent outings
Basham 6/10: First half had an uncharacteristically error-strewn outing. He didn't look quite the Basham we'd expected but this picked up somewhat after the break with better forays forward and a lovely knock-over
Bogle 8.5/10: Still a dangerous, effective asset for our side and worthy of MotM for me. Sometimes a bit exposed when so far up the pitch but when you have Basham covering your arcs, that largely isn't a problem. A very well taken goal from him
Fleck 6.5/10: Good to see him back and see him fit again and going the full ninety. But fuck me it was a typical 'John' (out on the pitch) and 'Jimmy' in front of goal with so much time to pick a spot, not straight at the fucking goalkeeper
Norwood 7/10: Another fairly good performance from him. Saw him commit to some good tackles and interceptions and some of his balls forward and passes were good. But some weren't. And at times, when other United players have the ball, he doesn't willingly show, run into space or link, he just 'points'
Berge 5/10: Save for the last ten, I thought he was pretty ordinary througout. Yep, made the pass to Billy for his goal, but you can't mark 90 minutes on that. Good to see him finish the game and hope he improves with time
Ndaiye 7/10: Decent match for Iliman. Again, seems to be the only player with a clue how to hold the ball, go past opponents and look threatening enough to drag players out of position to create opportunities for others. Still not understanding why he never completes a match.
Sharp 7/10: Grafted for the game and for the goal but didn't have that many chances overall. Needs to stay the fuck out of trouble. He has our backing whatever and needs to act responsibly and show leadership in times of tension rather than get all in-someone's-face about it. Pushing Ndaiye away is the right thing, getting all shovey and cunty is the way to risk being dismissed.

McBurnie 7/10: Good few minutes from him. Made himself a pest and was in the right areas defending and attacking
McGoldrick 3/10: Nowt much to go on. Weak shot at the keeper. Should have brought Jebbo on TBH

Overall it's a good away win and a decent message that Sheffield United is finally back in business in this division, even if we badly lack the potatoes to get anything out of the playoffs (if we scrape it) and absolutely need the whole team clearing out of we fluked a promotion. But we have a long way to go, a challenging next match and a butal February which will be doubtlessly plagued with injuries and suspensions which will challenge our squad in terms of strength in depth.

Well dome United. Well done Hecky.

pommpey
You and I continue to disagree about RND : I thought he was poor again last night and gave the ball awat far too often, without threatening their defence.
I also thought Berge was better than your mark. I don’t subscribe to him being an outstanding member of the team, but nor is he as bad as some make out. Most of his passing was good and has a quality of vision that few have. When going forward he uses his strength, but rarely does so when defending or trying to head !
 
Billy has consistently made them runs for years in every game, frustratingly most go either unnoticed or the pass comes too late and he’s given offside.
He could be on 20 goals by now if his teammates were on his wavelength and ‘that pass was made’ that utilised his reading of the game.
 
Good report. But like Snowflake I thought RND could have made more of the large amount of possession he had in the first half. As for Berge, he is so frustrating. He is very good but id like to see him get hold of the game and impose himself more, be more assertive. Is it a confidence thing?
 
Sharp 7/10: Grafted for the game and for the goal but didn't have that many chances overall. Needs to stay the fuck out of trouble. He has our backing whatever and needs to act responsibly and show leadership in times of tension rather than get all in-someone's-face about it. Pushing Ndaiye away is the right thing, getting all shovey and cunty is the way to risk being dismissed.


pommpey
The way I saw it was Sharp took one for Ndaiye. In those pushy type situations - caused entirely by their shithouse centre half - invariably the ref wimps out and books both players. Ndaiye, the young inexperienced flair player would have been nipped, niggled and gnawed at for the rest of the game in order to get a reaction and sending off.

Sharpy did what he had to do to protect his mate, knowing that with his experience there's no way they'd get him sent off.
 
If Berge is finally coming into a bit of form, the midfield situation gets interesting when MGW is fully fit. Hourihane looked a bit better recently, better than Fleck last night certainly. A few options suddenly, keeps them all on their toes.
 
think berge deserves a 7 for his 2nd half performance showed what he can do driving on with the ball and still think he can do more of that for me hourihane has to come in for fleck yes better 2nd half like berge but missed 2 great chances that he would have put away 3 years ago finally a good word for mcburnie who everybody knows i dont rate but put a good cameo in last night making a nuisance for brums back line my god never thought i would ever praise him on this forum lol utb fto
 
Billy has consistently made them runs for years in every game, frustratingly most go either unnoticed or the pass comes too late and he’s given offside.
He could be on 20 goals by now if his teammates were on his wavelength and ‘that pass was made’ that utilised his reading of the game.

And that is exactly it. Sharp, and indeed McBurnie, shouldn't be left with the responsibility of going fetching, carrying and digging out the ball from the middle and final third. Their business - most of the time - is in the 18 yard box. The three midfielders and two wingbacks should always have both attackers in their line of sight whenever they are facing forward. It seems that lately ... possibly the past two years ... we've always been looking at the sideways and backward pass rather than sending Sharp, Brewster, McBurnie and even Mousset through with a decent ground pass or a ball around the back like Preston did for their second. Usually Billy eats that stuff up. It's part of my rant at the midfield, in particular Norwood, for not gaining pitch yards off the opposition and pulling their players out to create that space behind and the chance for Billy and even McBurnie to get something on the ball. It pisses me off to see us faffing about getting bogged down in the same old areas and putting the ball across the pitch to get trapped on the opposite wing just for the sake of 'possession'. It's the truth that when we are on the ball, the opposition can't score but it is equally true that if we are displaying benign, non-threatening behaviours and simply 'owning' the ball like we did for vast periods of that first half and not even getting the keeper to stop one shot, we are achieving nothing with an experienced, prolific poacher like Sharp running his aged legs off to a spot where he can receive and do something whilst the rest of the team are playing keep-ball.

pommpey
 

Pretty bloody wonderful reaction to pinch the win off Birmingham City tonight. We dominated the first half and typically had zero efforts on target. Seems that City were nervy about our resurgence and resorted to isolating us in the wide areas to allow us to cough up possession or drift the ball across the box from side to side without any killer pass to bring one of the forwards to run onto and get on goal. It was pleasing and frustrating in equal measures because again, we were playing a team very much not feeling the love and with far more pedigree than the onfield performance suggested. We pushed them up the pitch a lot and went at then and it looked ace. Except we scored nil. The backline was pretty unpressed and the midfield unspectacular in that first 45. We looked to harry them down the flanks and from that came a fucking stonewall spot kick waved away by a flakey ref. Their expected front line was easily scooped up and they couldn't deal without 5-3-2, even with the engine room not really warmed up and firing.

Second half it was much of the same even though it was evident Bowyer had put a rocket up their arses about allowing us to play in their half too much, Although we looked purposeful at times, we wasted passes and crosses, fucked up some clear goes on goal and it came as no surprise t see them break out, feed Taylor and for him to knock the ball past a flat footed Fodders. Feared the worst there to be honest, whither us being managed out to a 1-0 defeat as we were at BDTBL, or for us to go further behind trying to respond. It nearly happened at one stage but Fodders got down well but fuck me, what have we been wanting for ages ... a midfielder to see and anticipate Billy's experienced run (he'd been doing it all game) thread a pass and him to slot home an equaliser. Billy is a proven goalscorer (pay attention Fallowfield, you twerp) but is only as good as those who feed him. It's a percentage game, and he plays it to the letter. Give him five opportunities in a game like tonight and he'll score two. Tap the fucking ball about out wide, faff endlessly until Norwood misplaces a ball (it happened tonight) and he'll stand with his arms up in the air. All he needs is half a chance, half a yard and a centre back like Roberts not watching him moving, and he's in.

Great to see also we didn't go for the draw and despite the Sky co-commentator's horrific anti-SUFC bias, the offside claims against Sharp in the initial pass forward were correct but Bogle's 'handball' wasn't. It was nice to see him set against a fucking passing contact-trip on Bogle and an inconsistent camera angle on both offside and handball. He must be sat in the studio shithouse right now issuing papercuts to his own fucking helmet in rage at the ref's decision. Awww. Whorra fucking shame. But from that offsie came Bogle's well worked winner. Whoda thought our right wingback and centre forward could be so prolific?

Good game management to the end too. Birmingham looked as bereft of ideas as we have earlier in the season when losing at home. I hope everyone who took a mask to the game tonight sees their idiocy and as for the whistles, be nice to see them lube them up and insert them into their individual balloon-knots. Strange how we have been 'victims' of two fan protests in the past five years yet the outcome has been pretty much the same, with the same player being involved in the coup de grace.

Foderingham 6.5/10: Loses a mark for not at least diving for Taylor's effort. Great stop a few minutes later though. Still gives me the leaky hoop over his delayed clearances
RND 7/10: Thought he did very well tonight. He's far from the finished article but tonight gave a lot up that flank linking well and causing problems for their right side defence
Davies 7/10: Good to see him back tonight and fairly solid in their air on on the deck
Egan 7/10: Another better performance from Egan given recent outings
Basham 6/10: First half had an uncharacteristically error-strewn outing. He didn't look quite the Basham we'd expected but this picked up somewhat after the break with better forays forward and a lovely knock-over
Bogle 8.5/10: Still a dangerous, effective asset for our side and worthy of MotM for me. Sometimes a bit exposed when so far up the pitch but when you have Basham covering your arcs, that largely isn't a problem. A very well taken goal from him
Fleck 6.5/10: Good to see him back and see him fit again and going the full ninety. But fuck me it was a typical 'John' (out on the pitch) and 'Jimmy' in front of goal with so much time to pick a spot, not straight at the fucking goalkeeper
Norwood 7/10: Another fairly good performance from him. Saw him commit to some good tackles and interceptions and some of his balls forward and passes were good. But some weren't. And at times, when other United players have the ball, he doesn't willingly show, run into space or link, he just 'points'
Berge 5/10: Save for the last ten, I thought he was pretty ordinary througout. Yep, made the pass to Billy for his goal, but you can't mark 90 minutes on that. Good to see him finish the game and hope he improves with time
Ndaiye 7/10: Decent match for Iliman. Again, seems to be the only player with a clue how to hold the ball, go past opponents and look threatening enough to drag players out of position to create opportunities for others. Still not understanding why he never completes a match.
Sharp 7/10: Grafted for the game and for the goal but didn't have that many chances overall. Needs to stay the fuck out of trouble. He has our backing whatever and needs to act responsibly and show leadership in times of tension rather than get all in-someone's-face about it. Pushing Ndaiye away is the right thing, getting all shovey and cunty is the way to risk being dismissed.

McBurnie 7/10: Good few minutes from him. Made himself a pest and was in the right areas defending and attacking
McGoldrick 3/10: Nowt much to go on. Weak shot at the keeper. Should have brought Jebbo on TBH

Overall it's a good away win and a decent message that Sheffield United is finally back in business in this division, even if we badly lack the potatoes to get anything out of the playoffs (if we scrape it) and absolutely need the whole team clearing out of we fluked a promotion. But we have a long way to go, a challenging next match and a butal February which will be doubtlessly plagued with injuries and suspensions which will challenge our squad in terms of strength in depth.

Well dome United. Well done Hecky.

pommpey
You talk about fearing the worst and let's face it we all do at times..but after the Peterborough game one of the players (forget who) maybe Norwood....talked about how there's a big emphasis on being patient..I'm gonna remind misen o this next time I'm shitting bricks.
 
Berge and Fleck both grew into the game, Fleck, would have probably scored, if it wasn't his first game back, think he was trying a bit too hard, not confident especially with the girls chance, to hit it first time.
 
Pretty bloody wonderful reaction to pinch the win off Birmingham City tonight. We dominated the first half and typically had zero efforts on target. Seems that City were nervy about our resurgence and resorted to isolating us in the wide areas to allow us to cough up possession or drift the ball across the box from side to side without any killer pass to bring one of the forwards to run onto and get on goal. It was pleasing and frustrating in equal measures because again, we were playing a team very much not feeling the love and with far more pedigree than the onfield performance suggested. We pushed them up the pitch a lot and went at then and it looked ace. Except we scored nil. The backline was pretty unpressed and the midfield unspectacular in that first 45. We looked to harry them down the flanks and from that came a fucking stonewall spot kick waved away by a flakey ref. Their expected front line was easily scooped up and they couldn't deal without 5-3-2, even with the engine room not really warmed up and firing.

Second half it was much of the same even though it was evident Bowyer had put a rocket up their arses about allowing us to play in their half too much, Although we looked purposeful at times, we wasted passes and crosses, fucked up some clear goes on goal and it came as no surprise t see them break out, feed Taylor and for him to knock the ball past a flat footed Fodders. Feared the worst there to be honest, whither us being managed out to a 1-0 defeat as we were at BDTBL, or for us to go further behind trying to respond. It nearly happened at one stage but Fodders got down well but fuck me, what have we been wanting for ages ... a midfielder to see and anticipate Billy's experienced run (he'd been doing it all game) thread a pass and him to slot home an equaliser. Billy is a proven goalscorer (pay attention Fallowfield, you twerp) but is only as good as those who feed him. It's a percentage game, and he plays it to the letter. Give him five opportunities in a game like tonight and he'll score two. Tap the fucking ball about out wide, faff endlessly until Norwood misplaces a ball (it happened tonight) and he'll stand with his arms up in the air. All he needs is half a chance, half a yard and a centre back like Roberts not watching him moving, and he's in.

Great to see also we didn't go for the draw and despite the Sky co-commentator's horrific anti-SUFC bias, the offside claims against Sharp in the initial pass forward were correct but Bogle's 'handball' wasn't. It was nice to see him set against a fucking passing contact-trip on Bogle and an inconsistent camera angle on both offside and handball. He must be sat in the studio shithouse right now issuing papercuts to his own fucking helmet in rage at the ref's decision. Awww. Whorra fucking shame. But from that offsie came Bogle's well worked winner. Whoda thought our right wingback and centre forward could be so prolific?

Good game management to the end too. Birmingham looked as bereft of ideas as we have earlier in the season when losing at home. I hope everyone who took a mask to the game tonight sees their idiocy and as for the whistles, be nice to see them lube them up and insert them into their individual balloon-knots. Strange how we have been 'victims' of two fan protests in the past five years yet the outcome has been pretty much the same, with the same player being involved in the coup de grace.

Foderingham 6.5/10: Loses a mark for not at least diving for Taylor's effort. Great stop a few minutes later though. Still gives me the leaky hoop over his delayed clearances
RND 7/10: Thought he did very well tonight. He's far from the finished article but tonight gave a lot up that flank linking well and causing problems for their right side defence
Davies 7/10: Good to see him back tonight and fairly solid in their air on on the deck
Egan 7/10: Another better performance from Egan given recent outings
Basham 6/10: First half had an uncharacteristically error-strewn outing. He didn't look quite the Basham we'd expected but this picked up somewhat after the break with better forays forward and a lovely knock-over
Bogle 8.5/10: Still a dangerous, effective asset for our side and worthy of MotM for me. Sometimes a bit exposed when so far up the pitch but when you have Basham covering your arcs, that largely isn't a problem. A very well taken goal from him
Fleck 6.5/10: Good to see him back and see him fit again and going the full ninety. But fuck me it was a typical 'John' (out on the pitch) and 'Jimmy' in front of goal with so much time to pick a spot, not straight at the fucking goalkeeper
Norwood 7/10: Another fairly good performance from him. Saw him commit to some good tackles and interceptions and some of his balls forward and passes were good. But some weren't. And at times, when other United players have the ball, he doesn't willingly show, run into space or link, he just 'points'
Berge 5/10: Save for the last ten, I thought he was pretty ordinary througout. Yep, made the pass to Billy for his goal, but you can't mark 90 minutes on that. Good to see him finish the game and hope he improves with time
Ndaiye 7/10: Decent match for Iliman. Again, seems to be the only player with a clue how to hold the ball, go past opponents and look threatening enough to drag players out of position to create opportunities for others. Still not understanding why he never completes a match.
Sharp 7/10: Grafted for the game and for the goal but didn't have that many chances overall. Needs to stay the fuck out of trouble. He has our backing whatever and needs to act responsibly and show leadership in times of tension rather than get all in-someone's-face about it. Pushing Ndaiye away is the right thing, getting all shovey and cunty is the way to risk being dismissed.

McBurnie 7/10: Good few minutes from him. Made himself a pest and was in the right areas defending and attacking
McGoldrick 3/10: Nowt much to go on. Weak shot at the keeper. Should have brought Jebbo on TBH

Overall it's a good away win and a decent message that Sheffield United is finally back in business in this division, even if we badly lack the potatoes to get anything out of the playoffs (if we scrape it) and absolutely need the whole team clearing out of we fluked a promotion. But we have a long way to go, a challenging next match and a butal February which will be doubtlessly plagued with injuries and suspensions which will challenge our squad in terms of strength in depth.

Well dome United. Well done Hecky.

pommpey

Pretty bloody wonderful reaction to pinch the win off Birmingham City tonight. We dominated the first half and typically had zero efforts on target. Seems that City were nervy about our resurgence and resorted to isolating us in the wide areas to allow us to cough up possession or drift the ball across the box from side to side without any killer pass to bring one of the forwards to run onto and get on goal. It was pleasing and frustrating in equal measures because again, we were playing a team very much not feeling the love and with far more pedigree than the onfield performance suggested. We pushed them up the pitch a lot and went at then and it looked ace. Except we scored nil. The backline was pretty unpressed and the midfield unspectacular in that first 45. We looked to harry them down the flanks and from that came a fucking stonewall spot kick waved away by a flakey ref. Their expected front line was easily scooped up and they couldn't deal without 5-3-2, even with the engine room not really warmed up and firing.

Second half it was much of the same even though it was evident Bowyer had put a rocket up their arses about allowing us to play in their half too much, Although we looked purposeful at times, we wasted passes and crosses, fucked up some clear goes on goal and it came as no surprise t see them break out, feed Taylor and for him to knock the ball past a flat footed Fodders. Feared the worst there to be honest, whither us being managed out to a 1-0 defeat as we were at BDTBL, or for us to go further behind trying to respond. It nearly happened at one stage but Fodders got down well but fuck me, what have we been wanting for ages ... a midfielder to see and anticipate Billy's experienced run (he'd been doing it all game) thread a pass and him to slot home an equaliser. Billy is a proven goalscorer (pay attention Fallowfield, you twerp) but is only as good as those who feed him. It's a percentage game, and he plays it to the letter. Give him five opportunities in a game like tonight and he'll score two. Tap the fucking ball about out wide, faff endlessly until Norwood misplaces a ball (it happened tonight) and he'll stand with his arms up in the air. All he needs is half a chance, half a yard and a centre back like Roberts not watching him moving, and he's in.

Great to see also we didn't go for the draw and despite the Sky co-commentator's horrific anti-SUFC bias, the offside claims against Sharp in the initial pass forward were correct but Bogle's 'handball' wasn't. It was nice to see him set against a fucking passing contact-trip on Bogle and an inconsistent camera angle on both offside and handball. He must be sat in the studio shithouse right now issuing papercuts to his own fucking helmet in rage at the ref's decision. Awww. Whorra fucking shame. But from that offsie came Bogle's well worked winner. Whoda thought our right wingback and centre forward could be so prolific?

Good game management to the end too. Birmingham looked as bereft of ideas as we have earlier in the season when losing at home. I hope everyone who took a mask to the game tonight sees their idiocy and as for the whistles, be nice to see them lube them up and insert them into their individual balloon-knots. Strange how we have been 'victims' of two fan protests in the past five years yet the outcome has been pretty much the same, with the same player being involved in the coup de grace.

Foderingham 6.5/10: Loses a mark for not at least diving for Taylor's effort. Great stop a few minutes later though. Still gives me the leaky hoop over his delayed clearances
RND 7/10: Thought he did very well tonight. He's far from the finished article but tonight gave a lot up that flank linking well and causing problems for their right side defence
Davies 7/10: Good to see him back tonight and fairly solid in their air on on the deck
Egan 7/10: Another better performance from Egan given recent outings
Basham 6/10: First half had an uncharacteristically error-strewn outing. He didn't look quite the Basham we'd expected but this picked up somewhat after the break with better forays forward and a lovely knock-over
Bogle 8.5/10: Still a dangerous, effective asset for our side and worthy of MotM for me. Sometimes a bit exposed when so far up the pitch but when you have Basham covering your arcs, that largely isn't a problem. A very well taken goal from him
Fleck 6.5/10: Good to see him back and see him fit again and going the full ninety. But fuck me it was a typical 'John' (out on the pitch) and 'Jimmy' in front of goal with so much time to pick a spot, not straight at the fucking goalkeeper
Norwood 7/10: Another fairly good performance from him. Saw him commit to some good tackles and interceptions and some of his balls forward and passes were good. But some weren't. And at times, when other United players have the ball, he doesn't willingly show, run into space or link, he just 'points'
Berge 5/10: Save for the last ten, I thought he was pretty ordinary througout. Yep, made the pass to Billy for his goal, but you can't mark 90 minutes on that. Good to see him finish the game and hope he improves with time
Ndaiye 7/10: Decent match for Iliman. Again, seems to be the only player with a clue how to hold the ball, go past opponents and look threatening enough to drag players out of position to create opportunities for others. Still not understanding why he never completes a match.
Sharp 7/10: Grafted for the game and for the goal but didn't have that many chances overall. Needs to stay the fuck out of trouble. He has our backing whatever and needs to act responsibly and show leadership in times of tension rather than get all in-someone's-face about it. Pushing Ndaiye away is the right thing, getting all shovey and cunty is the way to risk being dismissed.

McBurnie 7/10: Good few minutes from him. Made himself a pest and was in the right areas defending and attacking
McGoldrick 3/10: Nowt much to go on. Weak shot at the keeper. Should have brought Jebbo on TBH

Overall it's a good away win and a decent message that Sheffield United is finally back in business in this division, even if we badly lack the potatoes to get anything out of the playoffs (if we scrape it) and absolutely need the whole team clearing out of we fluked a promotion. But we have a long way to go, a challenging next match and a butal February which will be doubtlessly plagued with injuries and suspensions which will challenge our squad in terms of strength in depth.

Well dome United. Well done Hecky.

pommpey

I thought Bogle goal was sheer class, to be alert and put it through the goalies legs was sublime.
Berge is still playing his way to match fitness, some good signs tonight
Fleck is too slow, we play the ball so quick these days I think the game passes him by a little bit
McBurnie, did well and looked up for it when he came on - is the real Ollie McBurnie going to stand up?

It was a great match to watch for a neutral though, some end-to-end stuff and we as a team were great - second half was even greater!

Well done the boys, I never expected to see this turn around from Hecky? so well done to him
 
Thought RND played well. Few nice touches, and I think he performed better than Stevens has recently. Still raw, but thought he played well. Still need an upgrade I think.

Love that we played sub par for 60 or so minutes, but turned the tap and saw the game off. Performances like that are often more telling than absolute thrashings.
 
RND looks better defensively recently but I just don’t think he offers us enough going forward to be a wing back at this level.

Berge, to quote a post I saw on Twitter last night was, “Hammond for an hour and then Socrates for half an hour“ so frustrating when you can see what he can do in the last half an hour it makes you ask what the fuck was he doing for the first hour?

Bogle last night I thought was off it for an hour as well, then to for the last half hour flicked a switch and was again superb, he is not going to be in the Championship long if he keeps up his form of the last month.

Billy and Bash are still the heartbeat of the team and club, they are Mr and Mr Sheffield United and we need to sort their contract situation out as soon as possible because I believe we need them around the club and not just for on the field reasons.
 
I have to agree with you Pommps about Berge - I've yet to see him dominate a game and he just seems totally nesh to me in tackles and headers. Good ball for Billy's goal though I am not convinced it was intended for him. Where was Egan for their goal ? Both wingbacks good going forward but they both need to work on their defence and stop ball watching. Overall a pleasing win and so nice to see a Blades side with a bit of fight in them when they go behind instead of the heads immediately dropping and us rolling over.
 
Spot on Pommpey
RND gets better every game some people have no patience on here
still think rnd could be converted to lcb hes ok at lwb but like enda just lacks that bit of pace hes got the height and physique to become a very good centre back imo
 
Might be a million miles off with this but, I am starting to wonder regards Berge, his attitude and playing style,,the guy is a unit, with his build, everyone expects him to win every header, tackle etc anyone think this could have resulted in Berge either consciously or unconsciously playing within himself a bit?
First half the ref blew up for a couple of fouls, judged Berge to be at fault, if anything they were 50/50 challenges and given some of the holding, shirt pulling and niggly fouls he didn't stop the game for, really trivial.

I wonder if Berge has been a 'unit' for most of his career and through his youth teams, and has been 'ground down' in terms of using his strengths, frustrated at really imposing hinself, with referees seeing bullying and fouls not strength, add in the increased pace and physicality of the PL and Championship, six of one and half a dozen of the other?
 
The Bowyer SKY interview is utterly bizarre, the whole somber mood seems like they’re addressing one of sport’s greatest ever injustices. Not helped by the interviewer’s consoling tone, tentatively comforting Bowyer as if his nan’s just died. They should have filmed it in black and white with Barber - Adagio for Strings as the soundtrack.
It was a bit odd, they completely ignored the best angle (which was also the linos view) and was 50/50.
 
And that is exactly it. Sharp, and indeed McBurnie, shouldn't be left with the responsibility of going fetching, carrying and digging out the ball from the middle and final third. Their business - most of the time - is in the 18 yard box. The three midfielders and two wingbacks should always have both attackers in their line of sight whenever they are facing forward. It seems that lately ... possibly the past two years ... we've always been looking at the sideways and backward pass rather than sending Sharp, Brewster, McBurnie and even Mousset through with a decent ground pass or a ball around the back like Preston did for their second. Usually Billy eats that stuff up. It's part of my rant at the midfield, in particular Norwood, for not gaining pitch yards off the opposition and pulling their players out to create that space behind and the chance for Billy and even McBurnie to get something on the ball. It pisses me off to see us faffing about getting bogged down in the same old areas and putting the ball across the pitch to get trapped on the opposite wing just for the sake of 'possession'. It's the truth that when we are on the ball, the opposition can't score but it is equally true that if we are displaying benign, non-threatening behaviours and simply 'owning' the ball like we did for vast periods of that first half and not even getting the keeper to stop one shot, we are achieving nothing with an experienced, prolific poacher like Sharp running his aged legs off to a spot where he can receive and do something whilst the rest of the team are playing keep-ball.

pommpey

Now that is spot on! - makes my blood boil as well, faffing about playing "keep ball" as though it's a badge of honour to have stat's (bloody stat's! don't get me started!) saying we kept the ball for 70 % of the game - but we lost 2-0.
Going back to what i said about fleck last night, the game is being played faster than he can keep up, I would've kept Hourihane in the team last night.
I think the speed and intensity we try to play is better than the Wilder years - I never thought i would be saying that!
 
Now that is spot on! - makes my blood boil as well, faffing about playing "keep ball" as though it's a badge of honour to have stat's (bloody stat's! don't get me started!) saying we kept the ball for 70 % of the game - but we lost 2-0.
Going back to what i said about fleck last night, the game is being played faster than he can keep up, I would've kept Hourihane in the team last night.
I think the speed and intensity we try to play is better than the Wilder years - I never thought i would be saying that!
I don't think the speed of play, and forward passing was as evident last night as it was against Peterborough, obviously different opponent's and not had the same dominance regards posessions, as well as Fleck/Hourihane change, all play a part.
I think what is clearly evident though, and results play a huge part in this, is the players buying into the idea as quickly as they have, as opposed to Slav ball, even if your not happy/comfortable doing X, when it gets results, its smiles all round!
 
The way I saw it was Sharp took one for Ndaiye. In those pushy type situations - caused entirely by their shithouse centre half - invariably the ref wimps out and books both players. Ndaiye, the young inexperienced flair player would have been nipped, niggled and gnawed at for the rest of the game in order to get a reaction and sending off.

Sharpy did what he had to do to protect his mate, knowing that with his experience there's no way they'd get him sent off.

I agree they were continually pulling at Ndaiye for the whole of the first half and you can see he was getting more annoyed and frustrated at the ref. It was like Bowyer had issued instructions to get at him and push his buttons. The grab round the neck when he was on the floor was their attempt at getting him booked 100% and Sharpe ran over there to have Ndaiye's back and it did deflect the ref's attention off of Ndiaye.

As for Bowyer what a wet mop. Crying over an "offside" when if you look the linesman was perfectly placed and watching, plus the Bogle handball. Sky saying it definitely wasnt a penalty on Ndiaye then after the half time analysis agreeing it should have been a penalty plus there was also a handball about 5 minutes from the hand by a Bham player just outside the box when Sharp was attacking but they didnt mention that either. So that makes it even on "dodgy decisions" but the Sky bias was there to see.

Think I`m still laughing now at Bowyers reaction.
 

Good to see the general uplift in confidence in the side ( and in most of these comments too! ) I liked the way we set off with a high octane first 30 mins. \all the side looked up for it. \berge- i dont know about him , he doesn't impose himself as he should but good ball thru for Billy .
Second goal a bit of magic. Well done- also big thumbs up to our travelling fans- not a good night to be travelling but they deserve a big cheer.
 

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