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pommpey

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Obviously disappointed and crushed by this loss and yes, it's effect is to bang more nails in our relegation coffin and stick Wilder's arse further out to be kicked. From back to front there were upticks in performance across the pitch (compared to West Brom, but to be honest, you can either stay shit or get better) but again, the weaknesses are all still there and still so evident when we play in such a critically negative formation.

We are easily placed on the back foot and true to for as has happened too many times this season, we start promisingly enough until the opposition is warmed up and lost the ball on ten minutes spending the next half hour just watching the opposition play triangles around us. Sometime between twenty and thirty minutes we lose concentration and sure as shit, today was no different with Leicester's first. It was Billy Smart's clown troupe defending - all that was missing was a small multicoloured car which has doors falling off, a hooter and a smoking exhaust. In fairness though there was a lot more about the response to that and I was delighted to see McBurnie grab his first of the season, albeit against a LCFC defence now renowned for conceding from set pieces. It capped a rather bloody excellent performance from a bloke so much under pressure to deliver. But elsewhere we were pretty pants again, the defence in the first half exposed down one flank, the four midfielders who played tonight all well below expected PL standards and the front two may as well have played at BDTBL next week whilst the team was away down here on the South Coast given the fact that the three midfielders seemed to be playing in a layered 8-0-2 formation and were so far away from them. Schmiecel didn't have much of a save to make and I can't recall LCFC defence being under any sustained real pressure that they couldn't (one again) shepherd into the now-benign areas between touchline and penalty area where it's only a matter of time before we simply give it up. Crossing and delivery into the box was typically shit (Basham gave our best cross) and for too long we were under the cosh. When we did break out, it was almost inevitable we'd make the wrong decision and end up shuttling back. We definitely had a chance to win this, but be honest, as Wilder brought Norwood on, did anyone really believe the score would end SUFC 2-1 LCFC, or that Jamie fucking pigfan Vardy would simply pop up and do what he always does, namely capitalise on a chance McBurnie was offered a fortnight a go and finish the job with a marksman's deadliness?

We're down now. Happy Christmas. Wilder has rolled his 5-3-2 dice one last time, his lack of astuteness in the transfer market has landed us with a defective, underskilled and underperforming team and the hopes, dreams and prayers of hundreds of thousands of Blades fans across the globe are now in tatters. Five games ago he had the chance to haul this round, but still we plod on with the predictable - and beatable - formulaic nonsense we saw out there today. Last season? Forget it. It's last season. It was a freak set of circumstances, highlighted a unique playing format and we were clearly (and I keep saying this) kept where we were by the cohesion between Basham, Egan and O'Connell and some frankly breath-taking stuff from Henderson. Even when we were beaten pre lockdown (like at Anfield) the feeling was that the margin of team cost and tactics had done it, rather than what this team failed to make up for in spirit. This season the spirit has gone and it seems most players know our club is doomed. Be interesting to see how they are playing at the end of February when we are on 8 points (or less) and the nearest few teams are scrapping it out twenty points ahead of us. By that time of course, BDTBL will be hopefully with fans, poor fuckers who last time they stood there we were looking at Europe.

What a tragedy for us all.

Ramsdale 7/10: A much better game but loses a point for some heart-stoppingly shit handling at times. Not sue what they coach him during the week about removing energy from the flight of the ball, but one key learning point in my level 2 coaching was indeed just that.
Baldock 6/10: Stroppy George did his level best to motor up the wing and motor back to defend, as soon as he, Basham and Berge completed their ten-piece passing move and given it to a blue shirt
Basham 6/10: Some decent defending and for much of the game handled Vardy pretty much okay. But he looks sick. Sick of this shit. Think where he was when he rammed that goal in against Leeds and that 'train' at Stoke. Look at where he is now.
Egan 6/10: Still for much of the game doing two Centre Back's jobs. Not quick enough or reading the move enough for Vardy's break away though I'd rather have him in the team for the next few games than lose him to a red card
Bryan 5/10: A much better game for him, but still plays at lower Championship level. Ball watching for a lot of the time hen he should be getting active. Noticed him up the wing though, so there's some hope, even for next season when Jack is transferred.
Lowe 3/10: Still a Derby player. Lucky to stay on and thankfully replaced. Even my wife said, 'he's off for that', for that crap second tackle
Lundstram 5/10: Adds some muscle to the midfield, but he's clumsy and gives the ball away to easily. Nick Montgomery with ginger hair, anyone?
Berge 5.5/10: He flatters to deceive. Picks up the ball, drops the shoulder, weaves into a nest of players, turns round, heads backwards, turns again, moves outward, turns backwards, turns again, passes it back to Ramsdale. There's just no playmaking, creativity or drive with Berge. Beat the man, lay it off, have a crack on goal. Seems t have problems with 'Away End' and 'Home End'
Fleck 4/10: He's still barely 40% of the midfield dynamo of 12 months ago but like Berge, when he actually gets the ball, there's no obvious outlets, players moving into space, available, moving forward. Loses a whole two points for shit concertation and control which led to our defeat. Unforgivable
Burke 5/10: Dug out but got nowt. Refreshing to see him harrying and actually trying to close down the opposition but to no real effect. He's never gonna score, this chap, is he? We've swapped a perfectly capable front man/winger with a cursed also ran who tries hard, but ends up on the losing side, now twenty odd times. I think a good Paddy Power tip is if he is starting, bet for us to lose. And you have to ask yourself - if that chance he had had fallen to Vardy, it would have been buried deep in our net.
McBurnie 8/10: Man of the Match for me. Fuck me, will you look at that. Thought in both penalty areas he made the difference although come sixty minutes it's quite obvious what the gameplan was for us - put some snow on it and find the lanky fucker in the nine shirt. This we did, but nine times out of ten, once it boinged off his ginger nut, it went to a blue shirt. The only time it didn't it nestled into their net.

Osborn 6.5/10: Typical grafting performance. Miles better than Lowe.
Norwood 2/10: Nice Championship - even lower - first touch for our gifted midfield talisman. Straight into Schmiecel's hands and over ten feet from the nearest player. His next cross - first man as well. Even Maddison was tributing him with his similarly shit crossing, the piss taking cunt. Aside from pointing a lot and neshing tackles (or just fouling) there's nowt much else, and substituing an average Lundstram for a frankly dogshit Norwood was testimony to Chris Wilder's bizarre strategy
Brewster 2/10: Ran around a lot. Decent chip. Poor kid.

Wilder 4/10: Every chance to get even one point, maybe three. Came away with nowt thanks to his insistence on 5-3-2 and his substitutions.

Ref: 7/10: Kept us at 11 men

pommpey
 



Obviously disappointed and crushed by this loss and yes, it's effect is to bang more nails in our relegation coffin and stick Wilder's arse further out to be kicked. From back to front there were upticks in performance across the pitch (compared to West Brom, but to be honest, you can either stay shit or get better) but again, the weaknesses are all still there and still so evident when we play in such a critically negative formation.

We are easily placed on the back foot and true to for as has happened too many times this season, we start promisingly enough until the opposition is warmed up and lost the ball on ten minutes spending the next half hour just watching the opposition play triangles around us. Sometime between twenty and thirty minutes we lose concentration and sure as shit, today was no different with Leicester's first. It was Billy Smart's clown troupe defending - all that was missing was a small multicoloured car which has doors falling off, a hooter and a smoking exhaust. In fairness though there was a lot more about the response to that and I was delighted to see McBurnie grab his first of the season, albeit against a LCFC defence now renowned for conceding from set pieces. It capped a rather bloody excellent performance from a bloke so much under pressure to deliver. But elsewhere we were pretty pants again, the defence in the first half exposed down one flank, the four midfielders who played tonight all well below expected PL standards and the front two may as well have played at BDTBL next week whilst the team was away down here on the South Coast given the fact that the three midfielders seemed to be playing in a layered 8-0-2 formation and were so far away from them. Schmiecel didn't have much of a save to make and I can't recall LCFC defence being under any sustained real pressure that they couldn't (one again) shepherd into the now-benign areas between touchline and penalty area where it's only a matter of time before we simply give it up. Crossing and delivery into the box was typically shit (Basham gave our best cross) and for too long we were under the cosh. When we did break out, it was almost inevitable we'd make the wrong decision and end up shuttling back. We definitely had a chance to win this, but be honest, as Wilder brought Norwood on, did anyone really believe the score would end SUFC 2-1 LCFC, or that Jamie fucking pigfan Vardy would simply pop up and do what he always does, namely capitalise on a chance McBurnie was offered a fortnight a go and finish the job with a marksman's deadliness?

We're down now. Happy Christmas. Wilder has rolled his 5-3-2 dice one last time, his lack of astuteness in the transfer market has landed us with a defective, underskilled and underperforming team and the hopes, dreams and prayers of hundreds of thousands of Blades fans across the globe are now in tatters. Five games ago he had the chance to haul this round, but still we plod on with the predictable - and beatable - formulaic nonsense we saw out there today. Last season? Forget it. It's last season. It was a freak set of circumstances, highlighted a unique playing format and we were clearly (and I keep saying this) kept where we were by the cohesion between Basham, Egan and O'Connell and some frankly breath-taking stuff from Henderson. Even when we were beaten pre lockdown (like at Anfield) the feeling was that the margin of team cost and tactics had done it, rather than what this team failed to make up for in spirit. This season the spirit has gone and it seems most players know our club is doomed. Be interesting to see how they are playing at the end of February when we are on 8 points (or less) and the nearest few teams are scrapping it out twenty points ahead of us. By that time of course, BDTBL will be hopefully with fans, poor fuckers who last time they stood there we were looking at Europe.

What a tragedy for us all.

Ramsdale 7/10: A much better game but loses a point for some heart-stoppingly shit handling at times. Not sue what they coach him during the week about removing energy from the flight of the ball, but one key learning point in my level 2 coaching was indeed just that.
Baldock 6/10: Stroppy George did his level best to motor up the wing and motor back to defend, as soon as he, Basham and Berge completed their ten-piece passing move and given it to a blue shirt
Basham 6/10: Some decent defending and for much of the game handled Vardy pretty much okay. But he looks sick. Sick of this shit. Think where he was when he rammed that goal in against Leeds and that 'train' at Stoke. Look at where he is now.
Egan 6/10: Still for much of the game doing two Centre Back's jobs. Not quick enough or reading the move enough for Vardy's break away though I'd rather have him in the team for the next few games than lose him to a red card
Bryan 5/10: A much better game for him, but still plays at lower Championship level. Ball watching for a lot of the time hen he should be getting active. Noticed him up the wing though, so there's some hope, even for next season when Jack is transferred.
Lowe 3/10: Still a Derby player. Lucky to stay on and thankfully replaced. Even my wife said, 'he's off for that', for that crap second tackle
Lundstram 5/10: Adds some muscle to the midfield, but he's clumsy and gives the ball away to easily. Nick Montgomery with ginger hair, anyone?
Berge 5.5/10: He flatters to deceive. Picks up the ball, drops the shoulder, weaves into a nest of players, turns round, heads backwards, turns again, moves outward, turns backwards, turns again, passes it back to Ramsdale. There's just no playmaking, creativity or drive with Berge. Beat the man, lay it off, have a crack on goal. Seems t have problems with 'Away End' and 'Home End'
Fleck 4/10: He's still barely 40% of the midfield dynamo of 12 months ago but like Berge, when he actually gets the ball, there's no obvious outlets, players moving into space, available, moving forward. Loses a whole two points for shit concertation and control which led to our defeat. Unforgivable
Burke 5/10: Dug out but got nowt. Refreshing to see him harrying and actually trying to close down the opposition but to no real effect. He's never gonna score, this chap, is he? We've swapped a perfectly capable front man/winger with a cursed also ran who tries hard, but ends up on the losing side, now twenty odd times. I think a good Paddy Power tip is if he is starting, bet for us to lose. And you have to ask yourself - if that chance he had had fallen to Vardy, it would have been buried deep in our net.
McBurnie 8/10: Man of the Match for me. Fuck me, will you look at that. Thought in both penalty areas he made the difference although come sixty minutes it's quite obvious what the gameplan was for us - put some snow on it and find the lanky fucker in the nine shirt. This we did, but nine times out of ten, once it boinged off his ginger nut, it went to a blue shirt. The only time it didn't it nestled into their net.

Osborn 6.5/10: Typical grafting performance. Miles better than Lowe.
Norwood 2/10: Nice Championship - even lower - first touch for our gifted midfield talisman. Straight into Schmiecel's hands and over ten feet from the nearest player. His next cross - first man as well. Even Maddison was tributing him with his similarly shit crossing, the piss taking cunt. Aside from pointing a lot and neshing tackles (or just fouling) there's nowt much else, and substituing an average Lundstram for a frankly dogshit Norwood was testimony to Chris Wilder's bizarre strategy
Brewster 2/10: Ran around a lot. Decent chip. Poor kid.

Wilder 4/10: Every chance to get even one point, maybe three. Came away with nowt thanks to his insistence on 5-3-2 and his substitutions.

Ref: 7/10: Kept us at 11 men

pommpey

And that's it lads in a nutshell. If it wasn't such bad reading I'd give this post a like.
 
Gonna say, no way is Lundstram ginger

That aside, good write up - hard to argue with any of it. 2/10 for Brewster is harsh.

We need to change something, even just to give us fans a glimmer of hope. I know Wilder keeps insisting the system works but you’d be hard pressed to make any claim that we deserved a point today. We need to find a system that gets us further up the pitch and drill some confidence into a set of players that currently couldn’t hold a piss for more than 5 seconds never mind a football.
 
Gonna say, no way is Lundstram ginger

That aside, good write up - hard to argue with any of it. 2/10 for Brewster is harsh.

We need to change something, even just to give us fans a glimmer of hope. I know Wilder keeps insisting the system works but you’d be hard pressed to make any claim that we deserved a point today. We need to find a system that gets us further up the pitch and drill some confidence into a set of players that currently couldn’t hold a piss for more than 5 seconds never mind a football.

Brewster has 2/10 simply because he got nothing.

We've been playing like this now for too long, and it's down to the fact that our midfield is made to 'hold' rather than to go on the attack.

It's why McBurnie feeds off long punts and Brewster and the other front me get fuck all in marks out of ten

pommpey
 
Oh and ffs most fans could see that Osborn was/is a better bet than Lowe for at least 3 or 4 games - he was probably the best player on the pitch 2nd half. Worrying that Wilder didn’t see this before, even I’d have known to have put experienced heads either side of Kean Bryan.
 
Obviously disappointed and crushed by this loss and yes, it's effect is to bang more nails in our relegation coffin and stick Wilder's arse further out to be kicked. From back to front there were upticks in performance across the pitch (compared to West Brom, but to be honest, you can either stay shit or get better) but again, the weaknesses are all still there and still so evident when we play in such a critically negative formation.

We are easily placed on the back foot and true to for as has happened too many times this season, we start promisingly enough until the opposition is warmed up and lost the ball on ten minutes spending the next half hour just watching the opposition play triangles around us. Sometime between twenty and thirty minutes we lose concentration and sure as shit, today was no different with Leicester's first. It was Billy Smart's clown troupe defending - all that was missing was a small multicoloured car which has doors falling off, a hooter and a smoking exhaust. In fairness though there was a lot more about the response to that and I was delighted to see McBurnie grab his first of the season, albeit against a LCFC defence now renowned for conceding from set pieces. It capped a rather bloody excellent performance from a bloke so much under pressure to deliver. But elsewhere we were pretty pants again, the defence in the first half exposed down one flank, the four midfielders who played tonight all well below expected PL standards and the front two may as well have played at BDTBL next week whilst the team was away down here on the South Coast given the fact that the three midfielders seemed to be playing in a layered 8-0-2 formation and were so far away from them. Schmiecel didn't have much of a save to make and I can't recall LCFC defence being under any sustained real pressure that they couldn't (one again) shepherd into the now-benign areas between touchline and penalty area where it's only a matter of time before we simply give it up. Crossing and delivery into the box was typically shit (Basham gave our best cross) and for too long we were under the cosh. When we did break out, it was almost inevitable we'd make the wrong decision and end up shuttling back. We definitely had a chance to win this, but be honest, as Wilder brought Norwood on, did anyone really believe the score would end SUFC 2-1 LCFC, or that Jamie fucking pigfan Vardy would simply pop up and do what he always does, namely capitalise on a chance McBurnie was offered a fortnight a go and finish the job with a marksman's deadliness?

We're down now. Happy Christmas. Wilder has rolled his 5-3-2 dice one last time, his lack of astuteness in the transfer market has landed us with a defective, underskilled and underperforming team and the hopes, dreams and prayers of hundreds of thousands of Blades fans across the globe are now in tatters. Five games ago he had the chance to haul this round, but still we plod on with the predictable - and beatable - formulaic nonsense we saw out there today. Last season? Forget it. It's last season. It was a freak set of circumstances, highlighted a unique playing format and we were clearly (and I keep saying this) kept where we were by the cohesion between Basham, Egan and O'Connell and some frankly breath-taking stuff from Henderson. Even when we were beaten pre lockdown (like at Anfield) the feeling was that the margin of team cost and tactics had done it, rather than what this team failed to make up for in spirit. This season the spirit has gone and it seems most players know our club is doomed. Be interesting to see how they are playing at the end of February when we are on 8 points (or less) and the nearest few teams are scrapping it out twenty points ahead of us. By that time of course, BDTBL will be hopefully with fans, poor fuckers who last time they stood there we were looking at Europe.

What a tragedy for us all.

Ramsdale 7/10: A much better game but loses a point for some heart-stoppingly shit handling at times. Not sue what they coach him during the week about removing energy from the flight of the ball, but one key learning point in my level 2 coaching was indeed just that.
Baldock 6/10: Stroppy George did his level best to motor up the wing and motor back to defend, as soon as he, Basham and Berge completed their ten-piece passing move and given it to a blue shirt
Basham 6/10: Some decent defending and for much of the game handled Vardy pretty much okay. But he looks sick. Sick of this shit. Think where he was when he rammed that goal in against Leeds and that 'train' at Stoke. Look at where he is now.
Egan 6/10: Still for much of the game doing two Centre Back's jobs. Not quick enough or reading the move enough for Vardy's break away though I'd rather have him in the team for the next few games than lose him to a red card
Bryan 5/10: A much better game for him, but still plays at lower Championship level. Ball watching for a lot of the time hen he should be getting active. Noticed him up the wing though, so there's some hope, even for next season when Jack is transferred.
Lowe 3/10: Still a Derby player. Lucky to stay on and thankfully replaced. Even my wife said, 'he's off for that', for that crap second tackle
Lundstram 5/10: Adds some muscle to the midfield, but he's clumsy and gives the ball away to easily. Nick Montgomery with ginger hair, anyone?
Berge 5.5/10: He flatters to deceive. Picks up the ball, drops the shoulder, weaves into a nest of players, turns round, heads backwards, turns again, moves outward, turns backwards, turns again, passes it back to Ramsdale. There's just no playmaking, creativity or drive with Berge. Beat the man, lay it off, have a crack on goal. Seems t have problems with 'Away End' and 'Home End'
Fleck 4/10: He's still barely 40% of the midfield dynamo of 12 months ago but like Berge, when he actually gets the ball, there's no obvious outlets, players moving into space, available, moving forward. Loses a whole two points for shit concertation and control which led to our defeat. Unforgivable
Burke 5/10: Dug out but got nowt. Refreshing to see him harrying and actually trying to close down the opposition but to no real effect. He's never gonna score, this chap, is he? We've swapped a perfectly capable front man/winger with a cursed also ran who tries hard, but ends up on the losing side, now twenty odd times. I think a good Paddy Power tip is if he is starting, bet for us to lose. And you have to ask yourself - if that chance he had had fallen to Vardy, it would have been buried deep in our net.
McBurnie 8/10: Man of the Match for me. Fuck me, will you look at that. Thought in both penalty areas he made the difference although come sixty minutes it's quite obvious what the gameplan was for us - put some snow on it and find the lanky fucker in the nine shirt. This we did, but nine times out of ten, once it boinged off his ginger nut, it went to a blue shirt. The only time it didn't it nestled into their net.

Osborn 6.5/10: Typical grafting performance. Miles better than Lowe.
Norwood 2/10: Nice Championship - even lower - first touch for our gifted midfield talisman. Straight into Schmiecel's hands and over ten feet from the nearest player. His next cross - first man as well. Even Maddison was tributing him with his similarly shit crossing, the piss taking cunt. Aside from pointing a lot and neshing tackles (or just fouling) there's nowt much else, and substituing an average Lundstram for a frankly dogshit Norwood was testimony to Chris Wilder's bizarre strategy
Brewster 2/10: Ran around a lot. Decent chip. Poor kid.

Wilder 4/10: Every chance to get even one point, maybe three. Came away with nowt thanks to his insistence on 5-3-2 and his substitutions.

Ref: 7/10: Kept us at 11 men

pommpey

I hear you mate.

My frustrations are similar to yours.

My question is, do you think with a different formation we would have got more points?

Do we have the players good enough to stay up?

I look at other teams and they all have players capable of creating something (apart from perhaps Burnley).

Fulham have Lookman, WBA have Pereira, Brighton have March and others, but who do we have who can create something?

Hearing Wilder in the interviews he sounds like a man who knows we are down and has no idea how to turn things around.
 
I hear you mate.

My frustrations are similar to yours.

My question is, do you think with a different formation we would have got more points?

Do we have the players good enough to stay up?

I look at other teams and they all have players capable of creating something (apart from perhaps Burnley).

Fulham have Lookman, WBA have Pereira, Brighton have March and others, but who do we have who can create something?

Hearing Wilder in the interviews he sounds like a man who knows we are down and has no idea how to turn things around.
I look to see where we potentially have creativity and I only see it in our forwards. Moose, Burke, Brewster, Didz - all have an element of the unpredictable. Play two of the fuckers up with McBurnie and get the bastard ball into their feet.
 
I hear you mate.

My frustrations are similar to yours.

My question is, do you think with a different formation we would have got more points?

Do we have the players good enough to stay up?

I look at other teams and they all have players capable of creating something (apart from perhaps Burnley).

Fulham have Lookman, WBA have Pereira, Brighton have March and others, but who do we have who can create something?

Hearing Wilder in the interviews he sounds like a man who knows we are down and has no idea how to turn things around.

Said before, we need to ditch the 5-3-2 and go four at the back.

Sorry if this seems Playstation but


------------------------------------------------------Ramsdale-----------------------------------------------------

Baldock/Bogle--------------------Egan-----------------Apadu/Robinson/Bryan----------------Stevens/Osborn

-------------------------------------------------Ampadu/Basham-------------------------------------------------

--------------Burke/Lunsdtram--------------------Berge/Norwood--------------Fleck/Osborn------------------

-------------------------------McGoldrick/Sharp----------McBurnie/Brewster-----------------------------------

The ball carriers up the centre of the pitch with Basham/Amapdu dropping on attack to cover counters and between the two CBs when defending in our area. More importantly allowing the MF to play further up the pitch to feed the front two. Supplying the forwards is, over the past two seasons, where we have been serially shit.

pommpey
 
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For once I think you've been far too generous in your marks, McBurnie, and possibly Osborne and Baldock aside, we were shocking.
Ive not been one to criticise individual players but today I feel criticism is in order.
Ramsdale : just doesn't instill me with any confidence, the lad needs resting.
Lowe : shocking. Caught out of position so many times, no confidence on the ball.
Bryan: some are saying he played well but to me looks completely out of his depth.
Burke: runs around a lot, has no composure whatsoever and is no striker.
Lundstram: Thanks John but you've hit the ceiling of mediocrity. Expect to see him back at Oxford within two years.
Fleck: looks lost without his mates Stevens and O'Connell to help him out.
Berge, Basham, Egan: distinctly average at best, very hesitant on the ball.
Hate to agree, Pommpey, but we are down.
 
Said before, we need to ditch the 5-3-2 and go four at the back.

Sorry if this seems Playstation but


------------------------------------------------------Ramsdale-----------------------------------------------------

Baldock/Bogle--------------------Egan-----------------Apadu/Robinson/Bryan----------------Stevens/Osborn

-------------------------------------------------Ampadu/Basham-------------------------------------------------

--------------Burke/Lunsdtram--------------------Berge/Norwood--------------Fleck/Osborn------------------

-------------------------------McGoldrick/Sharp----------McBurnie/Brewster-----------------------------------

The ball carriers up the centre of the pitch with Basham/Amapdu dropping on attack to cover counters and between the two CBs when defending in our area. Mor importantly allowing the MF to play further up the pitch to feed the front two. Supplying the forwards is, over the past two seasons, where we have been serially shit.

pommpey

What if we do this and still can't beat an egg?
 
Gonna say, no way is Lundstram ginger

That aside, good write up - hard to argue with any of it. 2/10 for Brewster is harsh.

We need to change something, even just to give us fans a glimmer of hope. I know Wilder keeps insisting the system works but you’d be hard pressed to make any claim that we deserved a point today. We need to find a system that gets us further up the pitch and drill some confidence into a set of players that currently couldn’t hold a piss for more than 5 seconds never mind a football.
Brewster has 2/10 simply because he got nothing.

We've been playing like this now for too long, and it's down to the fact that our midfield is made to 'hold' rather than to go on the attack.

It's why McBurnie feeds off long punts and Brewster and the other front me get fuck all in marks out of ten

pommpey
 
Enjoyed your take as always.

The shot of Wilder squatted down as their winner went in hurt like fuck. I felt his pain of another one of the thousand cuts.

We nearly got a good point, his players are letting him down and he hasn't a clue what to do.

It's very sad what's happening.
 



Enjoyed your take as always.

The shot of Wilder squatted down as their winner went in hurt like fuck. I felt his pain of another one of the thousand cuts.

We nearly got a good point, his players are letting him down and he hasn't a clue what to do.

It's very sad what's happening.

Agree and I for one am definitely NOT one of the 'Wilder Out' brigade.

But it's getting more and more difficult to defend his position when he plays the same losing, predictable formation with a team which has playing staff who aren't capable of playing in the formation and tactics we did a season ago, against teams who all have a formula to stop us playing that way.

Only Wilder can stop that and only HRH can stop Wilder. If he dos decide Wilder has to go, I will be dismayed (because I like CW) and dread who would be an applicant for the job. People are touting Allardyce. Fuck me will he have to do some hearts and minds to win people over post Wilder.

And face it, when we dropped from the upper tier last time the board sac ... Warnock resigned ... and we brought in a crusty old clogger from yesteryear, heralding in an epoch of fuck ups and failures until Wilder appeared.

pommpey
 
Obviously disappointed and crushed by this loss and yes, it's effect is to bang more nails in our relegation coffin and stick Wilder's arse further out to be kicked. From back to front there were upticks in performance across the pitch (compared to West Brom, but to be honest, you can either stay shit or get better) but again, the weaknesses are all still there and still so evident when we play in such a critically negative formation.

We are easily placed on the back foot and true to for as has happened too many times this season, we start promisingly enough until the opposition is warmed up and lost the ball on ten minutes spending the next half hour just watching the opposition play triangles around us. Sometime between twenty and thirty minutes we lose concentration and sure as shit, today was no different with Leicester's first. It was Billy Smart's clown troupe defending - all that was missing was a small multicoloured car which has doors falling off, a hooter and a smoking exhaust. In fairness though there was a lot more about the response to that and I was delighted to see McBurnie grab his first of the season, albeit against a LCFC defence now renowned for conceding from set pieces. It capped a rather bloody excellent performance from a bloke so much under pressure to deliver. But elsewhere we were pretty pants again, the defence in the first half exposed down one flank, the four midfielders who played tonight all well below expected PL standards and the front two may as well have played at BDTBL next week whilst the team was away down here on the South Coast given the fact that the three midfielders seemed to be playing in a layered 8-0-2 formation and were so far away from them. Schmiecel didn't have much of a save to make and I can't recall LCFC defence being under any sustained real pressure that they couldn't (one again) shepherd into the now-benign areas between touchline and penalty area where it's only a matter of time before we simply give it up. Crossing and delivery into the box was typically shit (Basham gave our best cross) and for too long we were under the cosh. When we did break out, it was almost inevitable we'd make the wrong decision and end up shuttling back. We definitely had a chance to win this, but be honest, as Wilder brought Norwood on, did anyone really believe the score would end SUFC 2-1 LCFC, or that Jamie fucking pigfan Vardy would simply pop up and do what he always does, namely capitalise on a chance McBurnie was offered a fortnight a go and finish the job with a marksman's deadliness?

We're down now. Happy Christmas. Wilder has rolled his 5-3-2 dice one last time, his lack of astuteness in the transfer market has landed us with a defective, underskilled and underperforming team and the hopes, dreams and prayers of hundreds of thousands of Blades fans across the globe are now in tatters. Five games ago he had the chance to haul this round, but still we plod on with the predictable - and beatable - formulaic nonsense we saw out there today. Last season? Forget it. It's last season. It was a freak set of circumstances, highlighted a unique playing format and we were clearly (and I keep saying this) kept where we were by the cohesion between Basham, Egan and O'Connell and some frankly breath-taking stuff from Henderson. Even when we were beaten pre lockdown (like at Anfield) the feeling was that the margin of team cost and tactics had done it, rather than what this team failed to make up for in spirit. This season the spirit has gone and it seems most players know our club is doomed. Be interesting to see how they are playing at the end of February when we are on 8 points (or less) and the nearest few teams are scrapping it out twenty points ahead of us. By that time of course, BDTBL will be hopefully with fans, poor fuckers who last time they stood there we were looking at Europe.

What a tragedy for us all.

Ramsdale 7/10: A much better game but loses a point for some heart-stoppingly shit handling at times. Not sue what they coach him during the week about removing energy from the flight of the ball, but one key learning point in my level 2 coaching was indeed just that.
Baldock 6/10: Stroppy George did his level best to motor up the wing and motor back to defend, as soon as he, Basham and Berge completed their ten-piece passing move and given it to a blue shirt
Basham 6/10: Some decent defending and for much of the game handled Vardy pretty much okay. But he looks sick. Sick of this shit. Think where he was when he rammed that goal in against Leeds and that 'train' at Stoke. Look at where he is now.
Egan 6/10: Still for much of the game doing two Centre Back's jobs. Not quick enough or reading the move enough for Vardy's break away though I'd rather have him in the team for the next few games than lose him to a red card
Bryan 5/10: A much better game for him, but still plays at lower Championship level. Ball watching for a lot of the time hen he should be getting active. Noticed him up the wing though, so there's some hope, even for next season when Jack is transferred.
Lowe 3/10: Still a Derby player. Lucky to stay on and thankfully replaced. Even my wife said, 'he's off for that', for that crap second tackle
Lundstram 5/10: Adds some muscle to the midfield, but he's clumsy and gives the ball away to easily. Nick Montgomery with ginger hair, anyone?
Berge 5.5/10: He flatters to deceive. Picks up the ball, drops the shoulder, weaves into a nest of players, turns round, heads backwards, turns again, moves outward, turns backwards, turns again, passes it back to Ramsdale. There's just no playmaking, creativity or drive with Berge. Beat the man, lay it off, have a crack on goal. Seems t have problems with 'Away End' and 'Home End'
Fleck 4/10: He's still barely 40% of the midfield dynamo of 12 months ago but like Berge, when he actually gets the ball, there's no obvious outlets, players moving into space, available, moving forward. Loses a whole two points for shit concertation and control which led to our defeat. Unforgivable
Burke 5/10: Dug out but got nowt. Refreshing to see him harrying and actually trying to close down the opposition but to no real effect. He's never gonna score, this chap, is he? We've swapped a perfectly capable front man/winger with a cursed also ran who tries hard, but ends up on the losing side, now twenty odd times. I think a good Paddy Power tip is if he is starting, bet for us to lose. And you have to ask yourself - if that chance he had had fallen to Vardy, it would have been buried deep in our net.
McBurnie 8/10: Man of the Match for me. Fuck me, will you look at that. Thought in both penalty areas he made the difference although come sixty minutes it's quite obvious what the gameplan was for us - put some snow on it and find the lanky fucker in the nine shirt. This we did, but nine times out of ten, once it boinged off his ginger nut, it went to a blue shirt. The only time it didn't it nestled into their net.

Osborn 6.5/10: Typical grafting performance. Miles better than Lowe.
Norwood 2/10: Nice Championship - even lower - first touch for our gifted midfield talisman. Straight into Schmiecel's hands and over ten feet from the nearest player. His next cross - first man as well. Even Maddison was tributing him with his similarly shit crossing, the piss taking cunt. Aside from pointing a lot and neshing tackles (or just fouling) there's nowt much else, and substituing an average Lundstram for a frankly dogshit Norwood was testimony to Chris Wilder's bizarre strategy
Brewster 2/10: Ran around a lot. Decent chip. Poor kid.

Wilder 4/10: Every chance to get even one point, maybe three. Came away with nowt thanks to his insistence on 5-3-2 and his substitutions.

Ref: 7/10: Kept us at 11 men

pommpey
I agree with everything you've written and I haven't even read it!

Sad dark days and only the hope of a Pigs relegation to look forward to ☹️
 
Brewster has 2/10 simply because he got nothing.

We've been playing like this now for too long, and it's down to the fact that our midfield is made to 'hold' rather than to go on the attack.

It's why McBurnie feeds off long punts and Brewster and the other front me get fuck all in marks out of ten

pommpey

First thing Brewster needs to learn is the offside rule.
 
Spot on really. He should try the 4231 formation he used at northampton
 
First thing Brewster needs to learn is the offside rule.
Don’t agree, it’s part and parcel of playing on the last man. He needs to gamble in those situations. Just look how many times Vardy gets caught offside... it’s one of those things. Billy is king for getting caught offside but it pays off for him.
 
Agree and I for one am definitely NOT one of the 'Wilder Out' brigade.

But it's getting more and more difficult to defend his position when he plays the same losing, predictable formation with a team which has playing staff who aren't capable of playing in the formation and tactics we did a season ago, against teams who all have a formula to stop us playing that way.

Only Wilder can stop that and only HRH can stop Wilder. If he dos decide Wilder has to go, I will be dismayed (because I like CW) and dread who would be an applicant for the job. People are touting Allardyce. Fuck me will he have to do some hearts and minds to win people over post Wilder.

And face it, when we dropped from the upper tier last time the board sac ... Warnock resigned ... and we brought in a crusty old clogger from yesteryear, heralding in an epoch of fuck ups and failures until Wilder appeared.

pommpey
Where is the case for “Wilder in”?
Given I’m in the “Wilder in” camp but starting to struggle to explain why to my footballing loving friends.
 
Don’t agree, it’s part and parcel of playing on the last man. He needs to gamble in those situations. Just look how many times Vardy gets caught offside... it’s one of those things. Billy is king for getting caught offside but it pays off for him.

There is a difference playing on the shoulder to being stood blatantly offside.
 
I never criticise players just because they're out of their depth and, consequently, crap. It's not their fault they're playing, it's the coach's. And providing they do their best within their obvious personal limitations that's all a fan should ask.

So I don't criticise any of them as at least five of the starting line up today are not of Premier League quality. Yet we still came within a couple of minutes of grafting a point we didn't deserve because, as anyone could surely see, we could have been two goals behind and down to 10 before half time. The second half was better providing you're not the sort of person who enjoys watching football.

I don't see the point in a three man midfield currently as they create nothing and there is more unattended space in there when the opposition counter attack than there is on the kop.

Some of this is down to an abject lack of confidence. I would hope Wilder considers putting Berge at centre half though. He does look like a footballer, but I'm buggered if I can see how he's making any difference where he's been playing.
 
Obviously disappointed and crushed by this loss and yes, it's effect is to bang more nails in our relegation coffin and stick Wilder's arse further out to be kicked. From back to front there were upticks in performance across the pitch (compared to West Brom, but to be honest, you can either stay shit or get better) but again, the weaknesses are all still there and still so evident when we play in such a critically negative formation.

We are easily placed on the back foot and true to for as has happened too many times this season, we start promisingly enough until the opposition is warmed up and lost the ball on ten minutes spending the next half hour just watching the opposition play triangles around us. Sometime between twenty and thirty minutes we lose concentration and sure as shit, today was no different with Leicester's first. It was Billy Smart's clown troupe defending - all that was missing was a small multicoloured car which has doors falling off, a hooter and a smoking exhaust. In fairness though there was a lot more about the response to that and I was delighted to see McBurnie grab his first of the season, albeit against a LCFC defence now renowned for conceding from set pieces. It capped a rather bloody excellent performance from a bloke so much under pressure to deliver. But elsewhere we were pretty pants again, the defence in the first half exposed down one flank, the four midfielders who played tonight all well below expected PL standards and the front two may as well have played at BDTBL next week whilst the team was away down here on the South Coast given the fact that the three midfielders seemed to be playing in a layered 8-0-2 formation and were so far away from them. Schmiecel didn't have much of a save to make and I can't recall LCFC defence being under any sustained real pressure that they couldn't (one again) shepherd into the now-benign areas between touchline and penalty area where it's only a matter of time before we simply give it up. Crossing and delivery into the box was typically shit (Basham gave our best cross) and for too long we were under the cosh. When we did break out, it was almost inevitable we'd make the wrong decision and end up shuttling back. We definitely had a chance to win this, but be honest, as Wilder brought Norwood on, did anyone really believe the score would end SUFC 2-1 LCFC, or that Jamie fucking pigfan Vardy would simply pop up and do what he always does, namely capitalise on a chance McBurnie was offered a fortnight a go and finish the job with a marksman's deadliness?

We're down now. Happy Christmas. Wilder has rolled his 5-3-2 dice one last time, his lack of astuteness in the transfer market has landed us with a defective, underskilled and underperforming team and the hopes, dreams and prayers of hundreds of thousands of Blades fans across the globe are now in tatters. Five games ago he had the chance to haul this round, but still we plod on with the predictable - and beatable - formulaic nonsense we saw out there today. Last season? Forget it. It's last season. It was a freak set of circumstances, highlighted a unique playing format and we were clearly (and I keep saying this) kept where we were by the cohesion between Basham, Egan and O'Connell and some frankly breath-taking stuff from Henderson. Even when we were beaten pre lockdown (like at Anfield) the feeling was that the margin of team cost and tactics had done it, rather than what this team failed to make up for in spirit. This season the spirit has gone and it seems most players know our club is doomed. Be interesting to see how they are playing at the end of February when we are on 8 points (or less) and the nearest few teams are scrapping it out twenty points ahead of us. By that time of course, BDTBL will be hopefully with fans, poor fuckers who last time they stood there we were looking at Europe.

What a tragedy for us all.

Ramsdale 7/10: A much better game but loses a point for some heart-stoppingly shit handling at times. Not sue what they coach him during the week about removing energy from the flight of the ball, but one key learning point in my level 2 coaching was indeed just that.
Baldock 6/10: Stroppy George did his level best to motor up the wing and motor back to defend, as soon as he, Basham and Berge completed their ten-piece passing move and given it to a blue shirt
Basham 6/10: Some decent defending and for much of the game handled Vardy pretty much okay. But he looks sick. Sick of this shit. Think where he was when he rammed that goal in against Leeds and that 'train' at Stoke. Look at where he is now.
Egan 6/10: Still for much of the game doing two Centre Back's jobs. Not quick enough or reading the move enough for Vardy's break away though I'd rather have him in the team for the next few games than lose him to a red card
Bryan 5/10: A much better game for him, but still plays at lower Championship level. Ball watching for a lot of the time hen he should be getting active. Noticed him up the wing though, so there's some hope, even for next season when Jack is transferred.
Lowe 3/10: Still a Derby player. Lucky to stay on and thankfully replaced. Even my wife said, 'he's off for that', for that crap second tackle
Lundstram 5/10: Adds some muscle to the midfield, but he's clumsy and gives the ball away to easily. Nick Montgomery with ginger hair, anyone?
Berge 5.5/10: He flatters to deceive. Picks up the ball, drops the shoulder, weaves into a nest of players, turns round, heads backwards, turns again, moves outward, turns backwards, turns again, passes it back to Ramsdale. There's just no playmaking, creativity or drive with Berge. Beat the man, lay it off, have a crack on goal. Seems t have problems with 'Away End' and 'Home End'
Fleck 4/10: He's still barely 40% of the midfield dynamo of 12 months ago but like Berge, when he actually gets the ball, there's no obvious outlets, players moving into space, available, moving forward. Loses a whole two points for shit concertation and control which led to our defeat. Unforgivable
Burke 5/10: Dug out but got nowt. Refreshing to see him harrying and actually trying to close down the opposition but to no real effect. He's never gonna score, this chap, is he? We've swapped a perfectly capable front man/winger with a cursed also ran who tries hard, but ends up on the losing side, now twenty odd times. I think a good Paddy Power tip is if he is starting, bet for us to lose. And you have to ask yourself - if that chance he had had fallen to Vardy, it would have been buried deep in our net.
McBurnie 8/10: Man of the Match for me. Fuck me, will you look at that. Thought in both penalty areas he made the difference although come sixty minutes it's quite obvious what the gameplan was for us - put some snow on it and find the lanky fucker in the nine shirt. This we did, but nine times out of ten, once it boinged off his ginger nut, it went to a blue shirt. The only time it didn't it nestled into their net.

Osborn 6.5/10: Typical grafting performance. Miles better than Lowe.
Norwood 2/10: Nice Championship - even lower - first touch for our gifted midfield talisman. Straight into Schmiecel's hands and over ten feet from the nearest player. His next cross - first man as well. Even Maddison was tributing him with his similarly shit crossing, the piss taking cunt. Aside from pointing a lot and neshing tackles (or just fouling) there's nowt much else, and substituing an average Lundstram for a frankly dogshit Norwood was testimony to Chris Wilder's bizarre strategy
Brewster 2/10: Ran around a lot. Decent chip. Poor kid.

Wilder 4/10: Every chance to get even one point, maybe three. Came away with nowt thanks to his insistence on 5-3-2 and his substitutions.

Ref: 7/10: Kept us at 11 men

pommpey

Agree with most of that. Obviously we have slightly different marks. I felt Ramsdale was all over the place 2nd half.

As for the formation - Wilder keeps saying its not the formation and saying its down to individuals. Well this is the team he signed/bought and who are not creating chances and conceding too many so surely he needs to change things to give us more ball in the middle of the field, more protection for the defence and more chances to be created - so maybe he does need to change it. It cannot get any worse. I think I would put Basham and Ampadu in the middle of midfield and just hope we can win more ball and have more energy. The current midfield is pathetic. They are playing games like they are testimonials. I'd rarher some tackles come in and us have some legs. Play Berge higher up the field where he may then make more of an impact.
 
Agree with most of that. Obviously we have slightly different marks. I felt Ramsdale was all over the place 2nd half.

As for the formation - Wilder keeps saying its not the formation and saying its down to individuals. Well this is the team he signed/bought and who are not creating chances and conceding too many so surely he needs to change things to give us more ball in the middle of the field, more protection for the defence and more chances to be created - so maybe he does need to change it. It cannot get any worse. I think I would put Basham and Ampadu in the middle of midfield and just hope we can win more ball and have more energy. The current midfield is pathetic. They are playing games like they are testimonials. I'd rarher some tackles come in and us have some legs. Play Berge higher up the field where he may then make more of an impact.

Berge looks like a tank, but it’s wrapped in silk sheets. He has to be deployed in a more advanced position, as he has the touch and vision to play as a 10. We’re simply asking too much of him to shoulder the entire midfield. Ampadu and Bashsm behind Berge has to be worth a try.
 
Ramsdale 7!

He was not at fault for either goal but ffs for the first............... please Rammers just once if you get your hand to a shot, please make it strong enough to ricochet the ball over the bar or wide. Can't really remember him doing anything apart from flap at a bread and butter cross, dropping the ball. Ok he was brave enough to redeem himself, but he shouldn't have had to do that. With his confidence then visibly shaken he kicks the ball straight to their player but got away with again. Then dives low for another bread and butter smother from a cross and fumbles that, luckily for him onto his lower leg.

Nah mate, that wasn't a 7/10 performance, and I'm a blind optimistic clapper! ;)
 



Can’t disagree with any of that pommpey ,
Let’s be reight we dodged 2 bullets with the post saving us and them fuckers could have been out of sight before we scored
Poor individually and collectively from back to front
McBurnie apart , who’d have thunk that ehh from his last few performances
Our confidence is gone , it was noticeable with poor decisions, passing , marking players
I can name 3 players who will be gone if we go down , JOC , Egan and Berg
In the first half apart from the corner Lunny gave the ball away 3 ? Times For dangerous Leicester positions
Fleck was a passenger
is the better Derby player out injured or is it only dem pigs 🐷 that buy injured players
I’ll back our team whatever , but it’s getting harder to excuse rank bad performances from players who can and should be playing better
I can take our team getting beat , we all can, and it will get beat but I expect a fucking teak tough get stuck in leave it on the grass performance
If we go down at least show some balls and go down kicking and screaming
At the moment it’s pathetic, and I think if we get beat next week by the strike/ union breaking fuckers
I think that’ll push Pomps over the edge into TYLER abuse territory
 

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