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pommpey

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Fucking rubbish. Tonight was a game we had a serious chance to hook over the 17th spot and get some momentum. Instead an avoidable single goal and some breathtakingly shit missing of chances has really all but committed us to the lower division next year.

I've seen some of the counter responses on here addressing people finally waking up and slinging pelters at the team and staff. To those, instead of saying 'fuck off', try accounting for the woefulness on display tonight. Sure, there were some fleeting positives from some areas but overall our team looks bereft of confidence, disjointed and largely as though the last four seasons just haven't happened. From goalkeeper to strikers it is as bad a display as the dark days of Wier or Adkins on a comparative status. When we went down 1-0 to now functionally non-existent Bury away in February 2016, did we feel any different or desperate about our future? What about when Millwall or Southend turned us over later on? Could we honestly see where the next win or goal would come from?

Well, possibly.

I think we are as good as relegated now, with a possible maximum of 15 points. It's a bit of a shit situation, given our pretty pisspoor demise under Warnock and give the amount of shit half our supporters gave him both during and after our relegation, I wonder what is in store for Chris Wilder. He is revered as God in our circles and for all the right reasons, but of him and Knill are carrying out some sort of sporting experiment to see what combination actually works in their seemingly unchangeable 5-3-2, then time is running out. Tonight's lineup and bench, formation and sub strategy was in my opinion, wank. Kean Bryan is nowhere near where Robinson, Ampadu or even Stevens (see what I did there?) is is regarding experience and playing time. To drop him into a back three and expect him to be match sharp was laughable, and told it's own story throughout the match with Basham and Egan fully aware who they'd got on their left hand side. Bryan is a reserve and should stay so. He should be loaned out with an option to buy to some lower end Championship club, because quite simply, that's where he is and that's where he was when Deadbat (I think it was) reported on him in a reserve match (fucking ages ago now) and saying he was all over the place. Yet we kept him, 'just in case', just like we are paying Jagielka's wages too.

In front of a beleaguered back three we have our old mate Oliver Norwood. It's refreshing to see many on here now swallowing their pride and their wrongness and admitting this bloke is a midfield potato, gifted with one fleeting talent and only then in the Championship and below. Tonight he was fucking awful and deservedly subbed. Either side we have Berge, the only bloke who can actually hold onto the ball for longer than ten seconds and Fleck, a man beamed in from planet Coventry City just last week. The last four years have been completely erased from his memory and now he is actually playing like some of the Sky Blues fans said he was, back in Div Four. Outside of that we have stroppy George, who tonight soiled his pants and Lowe, who is still adjusting to the fact that he's not still at Derby County. He's still playing like he is, mind.

Oh god. Up front. Jesus. Aside from the obvious, easily substituted Oliver Burke (I am still trying to figure out why we bought Robinson, played him, loaned him, WBA bought him and gave us Burke) and his pace and determination, McBurnie is now the worst signing we have ever made, and in that I include a litany of other duffers like Higdon, Brayford and Done. Fuck me, we have wasted some fucking money on this campaign to the big time and has it backfied or what? Maupay or McBurnie? £20million. That's a lot of cash for six goals last season and fucking nowt this season. He doesn't even look like scoring, that's the kicker. In fact, nether does Brewster (£23million) or Mousett (£10million). There's nothing to give to them, and even when it's there, it's over the fucking bar.

I'm gonna rebuff and challenge anyone who says these statements:

1. It'll be reyt. Wilder will fix it. Plenty of time.

2. We were unlucky.

Firstly, time is running out for Wilder to suddenly pull a miraculous run of (winning, not drawing) results for us to make the magical 'safe' total. For that to happen, we have to score goals (we can't) and stop conceding (we can't do this, either). Secondly, luck is what you make it. Johnstone had a good game tonight, but out of what - 12 attempts on target (a new high for us) at least three of them should have gone in.

Ramsdale 6/10: For his marginal improvements. Their goal rolled past him from range, without any real power.

Baldock 4/10: Poor game. Struggled like fuck and his miss was unforgivable

Basham 5/10: Another iffy output from one of our better players

Egan 6/10: Did his best to block, defend and cover for the ineptitude of Bryan

Bryan 4/10: His one saving grace, the cross for Burke's header, was about the only thing of worth. Otherwise he was completely playing below his status

Lowe 4/10: Another one who clearly can't understand our rickety 5-3-2 system

Berge 5.5/10: At least tried to put in a shift. His clearance though was pathetic and led to their goal

Norwood 1/10: End it, Wilder.

Fleck 5/10: He is nothing like the John Fleck of old. Tonight was a clear example of that. Prove me wrong? Okay. First goal vs the pigs versus that fucking stupid early free kick which ended up floating over everyone's head and out of play.

McBurnie 2/10: Carrots. I think he likes it in midfield

Burke 6/10: Purposeful and willing to run at and past oppositions and scare them to death. Last time he scored though was, erm ... um ... Silent?

Subs:

Brewster 5/10: Poor kid.

Lundstram 5/10: Well, at least he tried. Another one playing in the wrong league

Mousett 2/10: Business as usual

We'll never fucking learn unless Wilder get's it in his head that starting with the same shitty lineup now results in a loss. It has for nine out of the ten games we have played so far and it won't change unless either the game Sheffield United plays changes ... or he changes. It's as stark a reality as that. I don't care for any thoughts about us 'outplaying them tonight' That is Trumpian bollocks. We did the same thing - ten minutes of promising attacking football (with fuck all to show for it, mind) then suddenly (eleven minutes in this time) West Brom gained possession and we are off struggling, this time not against Chelsea, or Liverpool or West Ham, but against a team freshly promoted and without a win themselves. We went behind to a fucking pointless and avoidable goal, shinned in from 22 yards which bobbled through a sea of players and failed to let the opposition pass it round us, park the bus, keep it away from us and waste time feigning injury.

To people who don't share my opinion - I respect that. What I don't respect is personal, directed abuse, or simply eating up page space not explaining why you disagree. It might shock you to know that people are interested in debate and differences of opinion. If you just want to be a dismissive, mardy arsed cunt just because we've lost and someone is commenting on it, the rusks and your blankie are over here and go put yourself to bed and have a rooer. Meanwhile, Sheffield United are in one of the biggest existential crises they have had possibly for a decade or two. If you can't join in the grown ups conversation about this, go play with your meccano or sit and watch Little Baby Bum or Hey Duggie. That goes for anyone slavvering Deadbat too.

pommpey
 

OK, but 2/10 for moose as a sub on his return?

Yep. Ran around bewildered. When it came to the crucial point of booting it into the next from three long yards, it's over the bar.

Bournemouth must be fucking pissing themselves.

pommpey
 
Yep. Ran around bewildered. When it came to the crucial point of booting it into the next from three long yards, it's over the bar.

Bournemouth must be fucking pissing themselves.

pommpey
OK. We should drop him then.
 
pommpey as you know, I'm only here to blow smoke up your bum and say I agree with all you say. This week is no different. I was, indeed, one of those who saw Norwood for what he is - an absurd charlatan in an important role. Hence why Wilder binned him, brought him back and binned him twice on 50 odd mins which is harsh for a footballer.

One thing I disagree on is Baldock, I think he's one of our most attacking and creative players going forward. I maintain he is important if he we are to get to the magical points total. Yes he missed a sitter but he still has value.

Bar that, spot on. Again.
 
Fucking rubbish. Tonight was a game we had a serious chance to hook over the 17th spot and get some momentum. Instead an avoidable single goal and some breathtakingly shit missing of chances has really all but committed us to the lower division next year.

I've seen some of the counter responses on here addressing people finally waking up and slinging pelters at the team and staff. To those, instead of saying 'fuck off', try accounting for the woefulness on display tonight. Sure, there were some fleeting positives from some areas but overall our team looks bereft of confidence, disjointed and largely as though the last four seasons just haven't happened. From goalkeeper to strikers it is as bad a display as the dark days of Wier or Adkins on a comparative status. When we went down 1-0 to now functionally non-existent Bury away in February 2016, did we feel any different or desperate about our future? What about when Millwall or Southend turned us over later on? Could we honestly see where the next win or goal would come from?

Well, possibly.

I think we are as good as relegated now, with a possible maximum of 15 points. It's a bit of a shit situation, given our pretty pisspoor demise under Warnock and give the amount of shit half our supporters gave him both during and after our relegation, I wonder what is in store for Chris Wilder. He is revered as God in our circles and for all the right reasons, but of him and Knill are carrying out some sort of sporting experiment to see what combination actually works in their seemingly unchangeable 5-3-2, then time is running out. Tonight's lineup and bench, formation and sub strategy was in my opinion, wank. Kean Bryan is nowhere near where Robinson, Ampadu or even Stevens (see what I did there?) is is regarding experience and playing time. To drop him into a back three and expect him to be match sharp was laughable, and told it's own story throughout the match with Basham and Egan fully aware who they'd got on their left hand side. Bryan is a reserve and should stay so. He should be loaned out with an option to buy to some lower end Championship club, because quite simply, that's where he is and that's where he was when Deadbat (I think it was) reported on him in a reserve match (fucking ages ago now) and saying he was all over the place. Yet we kept him, 'just in case', just like we are paying Jagielka's wages too.

In front of a beleaguered back three we have our old mate Oliver Norwood. It's refreshing to see many on here now swallowing their pride and their wrongness and admitting this bloke is a midfield potato, gifted with one fleeting talent and only then in the Championship and below. Tonight he was fucking awful and deservedly subbed. Either side we have Berge, the only bloke who can actually hold onto the ball for longer than ten seconds and Fleck, a man beamed in from planet Coventry City just last week. The last four years have been completely erased from his memory and now he is actually playing like some of the Sky Blues fans said he was, back in Div Four. Outside of that we have stroppy George, who tonight soiled his pants and Lowe, who is still adjusting to the fact that he's not still at Derby County. He's still playing like he is, mind.

Oh god. Up front. Jesus. Aside from the obvious, easily substituted Oliver Burke (I am still trying to figure out why we bought Robinson, played him, loaned him, WBA bought him and gave us Burke) and his pace and determination, McBurnie is now the worst signing we have ever made, and in that I include a litany of other duffers like Higdon, Brayford and Done. Fuck me, we have wasted some fucking money on this campaign to the big time and has it backfied or what? Maupay or McBurnie? £20million. That's a lot of cash for six goals last season and fucking nowt this season. He doesn't even look like scoring, that's the kicker. In fact, nether does Brewster (£23million) or Mousett (£10million). There's nothing to give to them, and even when it's there, it's over the fucking bar.

I'm gonna rebuff and challenge anyone who says these statements:

1. It'll be reyt. Wilder will fix it. Plenty of time.

2. We were unlucky.

Firstly, time is running out for Wilder to suddenly pull a miraculous run of (winning, not drawing) results for us to make the magical 'safe' total. For that to happen, we have to score goals (we can't) and stop conceding (we can't do this, either). Secondly, luck is what you make it. Johnstone had a good game tonight, but out of what - 12 attempts on target (a new high for us) at least three of them should have gone in.

Ramsdale 6/10: For his marginal improvements. Their goal rolled past him from range, without any real power.

Baldock 4/10: Poor game. Struggled like fuck and his miss was unforgivable

Basham 5/10: Another iffy output from one of our better players

Egan 6/10: Did his best to block, defend and cover for the ineptitude of Bryan

Bryan 4/10: His one saving grace, the cross for Burke's header, was about the only thing of worth. Otherwise he was completely playing below his status

Lowe 4/10: Another one who clearly can't understand our rickety 5-3-2 system

Berge 5.5/10: At least tried to put in a shift. His clearance though was pathetic and led to their goal

Norwood 1/10: End it, Wilder.

Fleck 5/10: He is nothing like the John Fleck of old. Tonight was a clear example of that. Prove me wrong? Okay. First goal vs the pigs versus that fucking stupid early free kick which ended up floating over everyone's head and out of play.

McBurnie 2/10: Carrots. I think he likes it in midfield

Burke 6/10: Purposeful and willing to run at and past oppositions and scare them to death. Last time he scored though was, erm ... um ... Silent?

Subs:

Brewster 5/10: Poor kid.

Lundstram 5/10: Well, at least he tried. Another one playing in the wrong league

Mousett 2/10: Business as usual

We'll never fucking learn unless Wilder get's it in his head that starting with the same shitty lineup now results in a loss. It has for nine out of the ten games we have played so far and it won't change unless either the game Sheffield United plays changes ... or he changes. It's as stark a reality as that. I don't care for any thoughts about us 'outplaying them tonight' That is Trumpian bollocks. We did the same thing - ten minutes of promising attacking football (with fuck all to show for it, mind) then suddenly (eleven minutes in this time) West Brom gained possession and we are off struggling, this time not against Chelsea, or Liverpool or West Ham, but against a team freshly promoted and without a win themselves. We went behind to a fucking pointless and avoidable goal, shinned in from 22 yards which bobbled through a sea of players and failed to let the opposition pass it round us, park the bus, keep it away from us and waste time feigning injury.

To people who don't share my opinion - I respect that. What I don't respect is personal, directed abuse, or simply eating up page space not explaining why you disagree. It might shock you to know that people are interested in debate and differences of opinion. If you just want to be a dismissive, mardy arsed cunt just because we've lost and someone is commenting on it, the rusks and your blankie are over here and go put yourself to bed and have a rooer. Meanwhile, Sheffield United are in one of the biggest existential crises they have had possibly for a decade or two. If you can't join in the grown ups conversation about this, go play with your meccano or sit and watch Little Baby Bum or Hey Duggie. That goes for anyone slavvering Deadbat too.

pommpey
 
This is the second time I've agreed with you. 😁

My take is that Wilder is trying to shoehorn players into his system. The system works when JOC is fit. He isn't. So change the formation. We looked better at the end playing 3-4-3.

McBurnie just isn't good enough.Wilder needs to take him out of the firing line, or hes putting himself in the firing line instead.

At the moment we smell of relegation.

We will find out how good a manager CW is if he gets us out of this, but he's had poor 8 months and if he continues being this stubborn and tactically naive we won't ever get to know.
 
1 out of a possible 42.

CW has been a hugely successful manager and we have lots to thank him for. But when it comes down to it he has performed his job. He was employed to get us in the prem.

when does blind sentiment turn in to realism. Failing to adapt is where my criticism comes from. If CW can’t adapt or at least try to move on from the failing system then at some point a decision has to be made.

Well summed up pommpey (but harsh on moose though and Brewster)
 
Agree with most of that unfortunately. Harsh on Baldock but the miss was shocking so maybe it was that.

Midfield was non-existent until Norwood came off, he was ponderous on the ball and definitely played too many backwards and sideways balls. Berge did about 3 good things all game, then did a lot of shot things to even it up, even Wilder dug him out in his interview. Fleck was ‘meh’ at best.

McBurnie, not sure what I can say. Went back into his ‘let’s just get involved with the defenders and moan when I don’t get a foul’ mode. Missed a half decent chance and showed that he can’t strike a ball properly in the process. Other strikers either looked lost (Mousset and Brewster) or half decent (Burke). None of them can finish for toffee thou

I’m hoping that we come up with a system to break down Championship defences that will just sit in and watch us pass the ball in front of them, we’ll need it.

The season is becoming an embarrassing mess, we need to snap out if sharpish. Even pigs are daring to take the piss now. Had a fucking Hull fan texting me this morning as well taking the piss. It’s a joke.
 
Fucking rubbish. Tonight was a game we had a serious chance to hook over the 17th spot and get some momentum. Instead an avoidable single goal and some breathtakingly shit missing of chances has really all but committed us to the lower division next year.

I've seen some of the counter responses on here addressing people finally waking up and slinging pelters at the team and staff. To those, instead of saying 'fuck off', try accounting for the woefulness on display tonight. Sure, there were some fleeting positives from some areas but overall our team looks bereft of confidence, disjointed and largely as though the last four seasons just haven't happened. From goalkeeper to strikers it is as bad a display as the dark days of Wier or Adkins on a comparative status. When we went down 1-0 to now functionally non-existent Bury away in February 2016, did we feel any different or desperate about our future? What about when Millwall or Southend turned us over later on? Could we honestly see where the next win or goal would come from?

Well, possibly.

I think we are as good as relegated now, with a possible maximum of 15 points. It's a bit of a shit situation, given our pretty pisspoor demise under Warnock and give the amount of shit half our supporters gave him both during and after our relegation, I wonder what is in store for Chris Wilder. He is revered as God in our circles and for all the right reasons, but of him and Knill are carrying out some sort of sporting experiment to see what combination actually works in their seemingly unchangeable 5-3-2, then time is running out. Tonight's lineup and bench, formation and sub strategy was in my opinion, wank. Kean Bryan is nowhere near where Robinson, Ampadu or even Stevens (see what I did there?) is is regarding experience and playing time. To drop him into a back three and expect him to be match sharp was laughable, and told it's own story throughout the match with Basham and Egan fully aware who they'd got on their left hand side. Bryan is a reserve and should stay so. He should be loaned out with an option to buy to some lower end Championship club, because quite simply, that's where he is and that's where he was when Deadbat (I think it was) reported on him in a reserve match (fucking ages ago now) and saying he was all over the place. Yet we kept him, 'just in case', just like we are paying Jagielka's wages too.

In front of a beleaguered back three we have our old mate Oliver Norwood. It's refreshing to see many on here now swallowing their pride and their wrongness and admitting this bloke is a midfield potato, gifted with one fleeting talent and only then in the Championship and below. Tonight he was fucking awful and deservedly subbed. Either side we have Berge, the only bloke who can actually hold onto the ball for longer than ten seconds and Fleck, a man beamed in from planet Coventry City just last week. The last four years have been completely erased from his memory and now he is actually playing like some of the Sky Blues fans said he was, back in Div Four. Outside of that we have stroppy George, who tonight soiled his pants and Lowe, who is still adjusting to the fact that he's not still at Derby County. He's still playing like he is, mind.

Oh god. Up front. Jesus. Aside from the obvious, easily substituted Oliver Burke (I am still trying to figure out why we bought Robinson, played him, loaned him, WBA bought him and gave us Burke) and his pace and determination, McBurnie is now the worst signing we have ever made, and in that I include a litany of other duffers like Higdon, Brayford and Done. Fuck me, we have wasted some fucking money on this campaign to the big time and has it backfied or what? Maupay or McBurnie? £20million. That's a lot of cash for six goals last season and fucking nowt this season. He doesn't even look like scoring, that's the kicker. In fact, nether does Brewster (£23million) or Mousett (£10million). There's nothing to give to them, and even when it's there, it's over the fucking bar.

I'm gonna rebuff and challenge anyone who says these statements:

1. It'll be reyt. Wilder will fix it. Plenty of time.

2. We were unlucky.

Firstly, time is running out for Wilder to suddenly pull a miraculous run of (winning, not drawing) results for us to make the magical 'safe' total. For that to happen, we have to score goals (we can't) and stop conceding (we can't do this, either). Secondly, luck is what you make it. Johnstone had a good game tonight, but out of what - 12 attempts on target (a new high for us) at least three of them should have gone in.

Ramsdale 6/10: For his marginal improvements. Their goal rolled past him from range, without any real power.

Baldock 4/10: Poor game. Struggled like fuck and his miss was unforgivable

Basham 5/10: Another iffy output from one of our better players

Egan 6/10: Did his best to block, defend and cover for the ineptitude of Bryan

Bryan 4/10: His one saving grace, the cross for Burke's header, was about the only thing of worth. Otherwise he was completely playing below his status

Lowe 4/10: Another one who clearly can't understand our rickety 5-3-2 system

Berge 5.5/10: At least tried to put in a shift. His clearance though was pathetic and led to their goal

Norwood 1/10: End it, Wilder.

Fleck 5/10: He is nothing like the John Fleck of old. Tonight was a clear example of that. Prove me wrong? Okay. First goal vs the pigs versus that fucking stupid early free kick which ended up floating over everyone's head and out of play.

McBurnie 2/10: Carrots. I think he likes it in midfield

Burke 6/10: Purposeful and willing to run at and past oppositions and scare them to death. Last time he scored though was, erm ... um ... Silent?

Subs:

Brewster 5/10: Poor kid.

Lundstram 5/10: Well, at least he tried. Another one playing in the wrong league

Mousett 2/10: Business as usual

We'll never fucking learn unless Wilder get's it in his head that starting with the same shitty lineup now results in a loss. It has for nine out of the ten games we have played so far and it won't change unless either the game Sheffield United plays changes ... or he changes. It's as stark a reality as that. I don't care for any thoughts about us 'outplaying them tonight' That is Trumpian bollocks. We did the same thing - ten minutes of promising attacking football (with fuck all to show for it, mind) then suddenly (eleven minutes in this time) West Brom gained possession and we are off struggling, this time not against Chelsea, or Liverpool or West Ham, but against a team freshly promoted and without a win themselves. We went behind to a fucking pointless and avoidable goal, shinned in from 22 yards which bobbled through a sea of players and failed to let the opposition pass it round us, park the bus, keep it away from us and waste time feigning injury.

To people who don't share my opinion - I respect that. What I don't respect is personal, directed abuse, or simply eating up page space not explaining why you disagree. It might shock you to know that people are interested in debate and differences of opinion. If you just want to be a dismissive, mardy arsed cunt just because we've lost and someone is commenting on it, the rusks and your blankie are over here and go put yourself to bed and have a rooer. Meanwhile, Sheffield United are in one of the biggest existential crises they have had possibly for a decade or two. If you can't join in the grown ups conversation about this, go play with your meccano or sit and watch Little Baby Bum or Hey Duggie. That goes for anyone slavvering Deadbat too.

pommpey
Yet again mate you've summed it up pretty much spot on!☹️
However, like last week, again I think you've been generous with the marks you've given 😉
And as for McBurnie, I just hope that all his 'fans' can finally see why I've said he's shite from day one!
 
Fucking rubbish. Tonight was a game we had a serious chance to hook over the 17th spot and get some momentum. Instead an avoidable single goal and some breathtakingly shit missing of chances has really all but committed us to the lower division next year.

I've seen some of the counter responses on here addressing people finally waking up and slinging pelters at the team and staff. To those, instead of saying 'fuck off', try accounting for the woefulness on display tonight. Sure, there were some fleeting positives from some areas but overall our team looks bereft of confidence, disjointed and largely as though the last four seasons just haven't happened. From goalkeeper to strikers it is as bad a display as the dark days of Wier or Adkins on a comparative status. When we went down 1-0 to now functionally non-existent Bury away in February 2016, did we feel any different or desperate about our future? What about when Millwall or Southend turned us over later on? Could we honestly see where the next win or goal would come from?

Well, possibly.

I think we are as good as relegated now, with a possible maximum of 15 points. It's a bit of a shit situation, given our pretty pisspoor demise under Warnock and give the amount of shit half our supporters gave him both during and after our relegation, I wonder what is in store for Chris Wilder. He is revered as God in our circles and for all the right reasons, but of him and Knill are carrying out some sort of sporting experiment to see what combination actually works in their seemingly unchangeable 5-3-2, then time is running out. Tonight's lineup and bench, formation and sub strategy was in my opinion, wank. Kean Bryan is nowhere near where Robinson, Ampadu or even Stevens (see what I did there?) is is regarding experience and playing time. To drop him into a back three and expect him to be match sharp was laughable, and told it's own story throughout the match with Basham and Egan fully aware who they'd got on their left hand side. Bryan is a reserve and should stay so. He should be loaned out with an option to buy to some lower end Championship club, because quite simply, that's where he is and that's where he was when Deadbat (I think it was) reported on him in a reserve match (fucking ages ago now) and saying he was all over the place. Yet we kept him, 'just in case', just like we are paying Jagielka's wages too.

In front of a beleaguered back three we have our old mate Oliver Norwood. It's refreshing to see many on here now swallowing their pride and their wrongness and admitting this bloke is a midfield potato, gifted with one fleeting talent and only then in the Championship and below. Tonight he was fucking awful and deservedly subbed. Either side we have Berge, the only bloke who can actually hold onto the ball for longer than ten seconds and Fleck, a man beamed in from planet Coventry City just last week. The last four years have been completely erased from his memory and now he is actually playing like some of the Sky Blues fans said he was, back in Div Four. Outside of that we have stroppy George, who tonight soiled his pants and Lowe, who is still adjusting to the fact that he's not still at Derby County. He's still playing like he is, mind.

Oh god. Up front. Jesus. Aside from the obvious, easily substituted Oliver Burke (I am still trying to figure out why we bought Robinson, played him, loaned him, WBA bought him and gave us Burke) and his pace and determination, McBurnie is now the worst signing we have ever made, and in that I include a litany of other duffers like Higdon, Brayford and Done. Fuck me, we have wasted some fucking money on this campaign to the big time and has it backfied or what? Maupay or McBurnie? £20million. That's a lot of cash for six goals last season and fucking nowt this season. He doesn't even look like scoring, that's the kicker. In fact, nether does Brewster (£23million) or Mousett (£10million). There's nothing to give to them, and even when it's there, it's over the fucking bar.

I'm gonna rebuff and challenge anyone who says these statements:

1. It'll be reyt. Wilder will fix it. Plenty of time.

2. We were unlucky.

Firstly, time is running out for Wilder to suddenly pull a miraculous run of (winning, not drawing) results for us to make the magical 'safe' total. For that to happen, we have to score goals (we can't) and stop conceding (we can't do this, either). Secondly, luck is what you make it. Johnstone had a good game tonight, but out of what - 12 attempts on target (a new high for us) at least three of them should have gone in.

Ramsdale 6/10: For his marginal improvements. Their goal rolled past him from range, without any real power.

Baldock 4/10: Poor game. Struggled like fuck and his miss was unforgivable

Basham 5/10: Another iffy output from one of our better players

Egan 6/10: Did his best to block, defend and cover for the ineptitude of Bryan

Bryan 4/10: His one saving grace, the cross for Burke's header, was about the only thing of worth. Otherwise he was completely playing below his status

Lowe 4/10: Another one who clearly can't understand our rickety 5-3-2 system

Berge 5.5/10: At least tried to put in a shift. His clearance though was pathetic and led to their goal

Norwood 1/10: End it, Wilder.

Fleck 5/10: He is nothing like the John Fleck of old. Tonight was a clear example of that. Prove me wrong? Okay. First goal vs the pigs versus that fucking stupid early free kick which ended up floating over everyone's head and out of play.

McBurnie 2/10: Carrots. I think he likes it in midfield

Burke 6/10: Purposeful and willing to run at and past oppositions and scare them to death. Last time he scored though was, erm ... um ... Silent?

Subs:

Brewster 5/10: Poor kid.

Lundstram 5/10: Well, at least he tried. Another one playing in the wrong league

Mousett 2/10: Business as usual

We'll never fucking learn unless Wilder get's it in his head that starting with the same shitty lineup now results in a loss. It has for nine out of the ten games we have played so far and it won't change unless either the game Sheffield United plays changes ... or he changes. It's as stark a reality as that. I don't care for any thoughts about us 'outplaying them tonight' That is Trumpian bollocks. We did the same thing - ten minutes of promising attacking football (with fuck all to show for it, mind) then suddenly (eleven minutes in this time) West Brom gained possession and we are off struggling, this time not against Chelsea, or Liverpool or West Ham, but against a team freshly promoted and without a win themselves. We went behind to a fucking pointless and avoidable goal, shinned in from 22 yards which bobbled through a sea of players and failed to let the opposition pass it round us, park the bus, keep it away from us and waste time feigning injury.

To people who don't share my opinion - I respect that. What I don't respect is personal, directed abuse, or simply eating up page space not explaining why you disagree. It might shock you to know that people are interested in debate and differences of opinion. If you just want to be a dismissive, mardy arsed cunt just because we've lost and someone is commenting on it, the rusks and your blankie are over here and go put yourself to bed and have a rooer. Meanwhile, Sheffield United are in one of the biggest existential crises they have had possibly for a decade or two. If you can't join in the grown ups conversation about this, go play with your meccano or sit and watch Little Baby Bum or Hey Duggie. That goes for anyone slavvering Deadbat too.

pommpey
I didnt think it was rubbish( apart from the finishing) but it was an average performance against a poor side.

I agree about Wilder and his line ups which is the culmination of the club's recruitment policy since entering this league. I.e. buying mainly squad players rather than players to replace the first team players.

As for your marks....

A bit harsh on Baldock . He defended well and created chances

Ramsdale. He kept us in the game with a couple of great saves. However I was amazed we signed him for that price when we could have got an experienced keeper like Foster on loan

Norwood....you have marked him too high

McBurnie tries hard but needs taking out of the squad.I think his mark his high as well.

The January transfer window will be interesting. If we are on less than 5 points , we are as good as relegated . Surely we will sell players like Berge, and a couple of other high earners and start building for next season in a lower league .
It maybe just before the transfer window that the board makes a decision on Wilder as any nee manager would then have two windows to mould a new squad if Wilder is to carry on.
 
It's an interesting read fella,and I'm finding in it hard to disagree.
I don't think I've ever felt as deflated as I feel this morning. Resigned and disappointed with no idea of how we can get out of it,whereas normally I've tried to be upbeat and confident,certain that all important first win will hove into view.
I'm struggling to see how Osbourn can't get a start when he's looked more than the squad player he was supposed to be whenever he's started, certainly way better than Norwood has.
If he can't get into the middle,why not give him a try out on the left instead of Lowe, because we're offering fuck all down there at the moment. Lowe seems to have the attacking threat of an armchair.
It just looks like a long and very hard rest of the season ahead.
 

I can't disagree with much of what pommpey writes here but I have held off commenting last night so as not to post a knee jerk reaction. A bit of an understatement to say I was dismayed when a hour before kick off my phone pinged up the starting line up. I did comment somewhere before the kick off "is Wilder asking to be sacked" so we are sticking with the 3-5-2 formation even though it has only got us one fortunate point all season CW's choice fair enough but then we look at the players chosen to play the system and 95% of the fanbase are thinking WTF ? Has CW lost the plot ?
Still on to the game we actually start off very brightly for 10 mins and give WBA a bit of a going over and could have easily been 2 goals up but then stupid decisions and general sloppy play take over and WBA slowly get into the game. What is now becoming the norm for us happens again the first shot on our goal bobbles into the net in slow motion. Game over for the next 20mins heads drop and we are all over the place. Same old tired substitutions which don't change a lot more huffing and puffing and a very poor WBA manage to see the game out.
Ramsdale must have thought all his birthdays had come at once when he got a move after relegation to a club with the best defence bar Liverpool sadly that is not the case this season. I don't blame him for the goal he must have seen it very late when it come through six defenders having a circle jerk on the penalty spot. Any bit of confidence the lad had was straight down the shitter he was awful after that dropping easy catches coming for balls when he should let the defender defend but even so he did make a couple of cracking save to keep us in the game. The guy has clearly no confidence in the defence and must be wondering what he has come in to.
Baldock has been one of our better performers this season and will be a great RB for someone a wing back he is not he can't put a decent ball in the box nine times out of ten he gets in good positions but deary me George do you wear the correct sized boots. Kieran Freeman would have buried those two sitters you missed, could have had a hat trick.
Basham Mr 110% but the general malaise in this team is spreading not so good a game as usual.
Egan is really struggling without JOC at his side made some good blocks but pretty average.
Bryan I did think WTF before kick off Premier League debut in such an important game. Really CW? And so it proved if ever there was a clone of Claude (bomb scare) Davis then this guy is it he was all over the shop and screams to me League One standard. Has he ever made an appearance at championship level and Chris thinks he is the answer ................... makes me wonder what the fucking question is maybe it is why is he still at the club?
Lowe he might be one for the future but sadly that future is with another SUFC Southend and Scunthorpe spring to mind, quite how Osborn his behind this guy I will never know I think Derby sacrificed Bogle just to get rid of this cunt.
Berge is fast becoming the new Dean Hammond his work must go mainly unseen. We know he has the talent, we know he has the strength, what we don't see is the application of his attributes somebody really does need to pull him to one side and tell him this is not the Belgian 1st division and he can't saunter around like he has all the time in the world. A piss poor clearance which led to their goal. a really frustrating player hopefully he will be sold and we get our money back in January ........ Arsenal interested you're having a laugh some body might take a punt on him though.
Norwood I don't remember a single thing he did all game, thanks for the memories but time to move back to the championship this level is clearly above him. Waste of a shirt.
Fleck a poor game but i will give him the benefit since the injury in the first lockdown he hasn't looked his old self probably needs more games.
Burke why this lad isn't the first name on the team sheet I will never know his pace scares defenders to death like the guy Traore at Wolves or Saint Maximin at Newcastle again Wilder hooks him instead of McBurnie WHY?
McBurnie I have defended this guy all season but enough is enough, yes he does get a lot of unfair criticism and maybe it is getting to him but he looks shot of confidence and at the moment has the unerring knack of hitting every effort straight at the keeper. Please CW take him out of the firing line for a few games before you ruin his career I see a Jordan Rhodes fall from grace otherwise.
Subs Brewster must be wondering WTF he has done coming here not had much football and it shows but he did a little better this game. Lundstram came on and was actually quite decent, it's saying something when you wish he had started rather than Norwood. Mousset came on for Burke when the obvious choice should have been McBurnie. Moose hasn't played in Christ knows how long I will be kind and blame this for that horrific 2 yard miss.
Over all I think it is time the scouts got their arses in gear and we start looking for players for a promotion push next season because as sure as hell barring a Biblical style miracle that is where we will be playing our football next season, depressing times. Things have got to change and fast such a sloppy half arsed performance last night but that should have still been enough to put an equally poor WBA to bed, hopefully we will get six points off these next season in our run to the Championship title.
 
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Fucking rubbish. Tonight was a game we had a serious chance to hook over the 17th spot and get some momentum. Instead an avoidable single goal and some breathtakingly shit missing of chances has really all but committed us to the lower division next year.

I've seen some of the counter responses on here addressing people finally waking up and slinging pelters at the team and staff. To those, instead of saying 'fuck off', try accounting for the woefulness on display tonight. Sure, there were some fleeting positives from some areas but overall our team looks bereft of confidence, disjointed and largely as though the last four seasons just haven't happened. From goalkeeper to strikers it is as bad a display as the dark days of Wier or Adkins on a comparative status. When we went down 1-0 to now functionally non-existent Bury away in February 2016, did we feel any different or desperate about our future? What about when Millwall or Southend turned us over later on? Could we honestly see where the next win or goal would come from?

Well, possibly.

I think we are as good as relegated now, with a possible maximum of 15 points. It's a bit of a shit situation, given our pretty pisspoor demise under Warnock and give the amount of shit half our supporters gave him both during and after our relegation, I wonder what is in store for Chris Wilder. He is revered as God in our circles and for all the right reasons, but of him and Knill are carrying out some sort of sporting experiment to see what combination actually works in their seemingly unchangeable 5-3-2, then time is running out. Tonight's lineup and bench, formation and sub strategy was in my opinion, wank. Kean Bryan is nowhere near where Robinson, Ampadu or even Stevens (see what I did there?) is is regarding experience and playing time. To drop him into a back three and expect him to be match sharp was laughable, and told it's own story throughout the match with Basham and Egan fully aware who they'd got on their left hand side. Bryan is a reserve and should stay so. He should be loaned out with an option to buy to some lower end Championship club, because quite simply, that's where he is and that's where he was when Deadbat (I think it was) reported on him in a reserve match (fucking ages ago now) and saying he was all over the place. Yet we kept him, 'just in case', just like we are paying Jagielka's wages too.

In front of a beleaguered back three we have our old mate Oliver Norwood. It's refreshing to see many on here now swallowing their pride and their wrongness and admitting this bloke is a midfield potato, gifted with one fleeting talent and only then in the Championship and below. Tonight he was fucking awful and deservedly subbed. Either side we have Berge, the only bloke who can actually hold onto the ball for longer than ten seconds and Fleck, a man beamed in from planet Coventry City just last week. The last four years have been completely erased from his memory and now he is actually playing like some of the Sky Blues fans said he was, back in Div Four. Outside of that we have stroppy George, who tonight soiled his pants and Lowe, who is still adjusting to the fact that he's not still at Derby County. He's still playing like he is, mind.

Oh god. Up front. Jesus. Aside from the obvious, easily substituted Oliver Burke (I am still trying to figure out why we bought Robinson, played him, loaned him, WBA bought him and gave us Burke) and his pace and determination, McBurnie is now the worst signing we have ever made, and in that I include a litany of other duffers like Higdon, Brayford and Done. Fuck me, we have wasted some fucking money on this campaign to the big time and has it backfied or what? Maupay or McBurnie? £20million. That's a lot of cash for six goals last season and fucking nowt this season. He doesn't even look like scoring, that's the kicker. In fact, nether does Brewster (£23million) or Mousett (£10million). There's nothing to give to them, and even when it's there, it's over the fucking bar.

I'm gonna rebuff and challenge anyone who says these statements:

1. It'll be reyt. Wilder will fix it. Plenty of time.

2. We were unlucky.

Firstly, time is running out for Wilder to suddenly pull a miraculous run of (winning, not drawing) results for us to make the magical 'safe' total. For that to happen, we have to score goals (we can't) and stop conceding (we can't do this, either). Secondly, luck is what you make it. Johnstone had a good game tonight, but out of what - 12 attempts on target (a new high for us) at least three of them should have gone in.

Ramsdale 6/10: For his marginal improvements. Their goal rolled past him from range, without any real power.

Baldock 4/10: Poor game. Struggled like fuck and his miss was unforgivable

Basham 5/10: Another iffy output from one of our better players

Egan 6/10: Did his best to block, defend and cover for the ineptitude of Bryan

Bryan 4/10: His one saving grace, the cross for Burke's header, was about the only thing of worth. Otherwise he was completely playing below his status

Lowe 4/10: Another one who clearly can't understand our rickety 5-3-2 system

Berge 5.5/10: At least tried to put in a shift. His clearance though was pathetic and led to their goal

Norwood 1/10: End it, Wilder.

Fleck 5/10: He is nothing like the John Fleck of old. Tonight was a clear example of that. Prove me wrong? Okay. First goal vs the pigs versus that fucking stupid early free kick which ended up floating over everyone's head and out of play.

McBurnie 2/10: Carrots. I think he likes it in midfield

Burke 6/10: Purposeful and willing to run at and past oppositions and scare them to death. Last time he scored though was, erm ... um ... Silent?

Subs:

Brewster 5/10: Poor kid.

Lundstram 5/10: Well, at least he tried. Another one playing in the wrong league

Mousett 2/10: Business as usual

We'll never fucking learn unless Wilder get's it in his head that starting with the same shitty lineup now results in a loss. It has for nine out of the ten games we have played so far and it won't change unless either the game Sheffield United plays changes ... or he changes. It's as stark a reality as that. I don't care for any thoughts about us 'outplaying them tonight' That is Trumpian bollocks. We did the same thing - ten minutes of promising attacking football (with fuck all to show for it, mind) then suddenly (eleven minutes in this time) West Brom gained possession and we are off struggling, this time not against Chelsea, or Liverpool or West Ham, but against a team freshly promoted and without a win themselves. We went behind to a fucking pointless and avoidable goal, shinned in from 22 yards which bobbled through a sea of players and failed to let the opposition pass it round us, park the bus, keep it away from us and waste time feigning injury.

To people who don't share my opinion - I respect that. What I don't respect is personal, directed abuse, or simply eating up page space not explaining why you disagree. It might shock you to know that people are interested in debate and differences of opinion. If you just want to be a dismissive, mardy arsed cunt just because we've lost and someone is commenting on it, the rusks and your blankie are over here and go put yourself to bed and have a rooer. Meanwhile, Sheffield United are in one of the biggest existential crises they have had possibly for a decade or two. If you can't join in the grown ups conversation about this, go play with your meccano or sit and watch Little Baby Bum or Hey Duggie. That goes for anyone slavvering Deadbat too.

pommpey
Can't fault any of this Pommps!
 
Fucking rubbish. Tonight was a game we had a serious chance to hook over the 17th spot and get some momentum. Instead an avoidable single goal and some breathtakingly shit missing of chances has really all but committed us to the lower division next year.

I've seen some of the counter responses on here addressing people finally waking up and slinging pelters at the team and staff. To those, instead of saying 'fuck off', try accounting for the woefulness on display tonight. Sure, there were some fleeting positives from some areas but overall our team looks bereft of confidence, disjointed and largely as though the last four seasons just haven't happened. From goalkeeper to strikers it is as bad a display as the dark days of Wier or Adkins on a comparative status. When we went down 1-0 to now functionally non-existent Bury away in February 2016, did we feel any different or desperate about our future? What about when Millwall or Southend turned us over later on? Could we honestly see where the next win or goal would come from?

Well, possibly.

I think we are as good as relegated now, with a possible maximum of 15 points. It's a bit of a shit situation, given our pretty pisspoor demise under Warnock and give the amount of shit half our supporters gave him both during and after our relegation, I wonder what is in store for Chris Wilder. He is revered as God in our circles and for all the right reasons, but of him and Knill are carrying out some sort of sporting experiment to see what combination actually works in their seemingly unchangeable 5-3-2, then time is running out. Tonight's lineup and bench, formation and sub strategy was in my opinion, wank. Kean Bryan is nowhere near where Robinson, Ampadu or even Stevens (see what I did there?) is is regarding experience and playing time. To drop him into a back three and expect him to be match sharp was laughable, and told it's own story throughout the match with Basham and Egan fully aware who they'd got on their left hand side. Bryan is a reserve and should stay so. He should be loaned out with an option to buy to some lower end Championship club, because quite simply, that's where he is and that's where he was when Deadbat (I think it was) reported on him in a reserve match (fucking ages ago now) and saying he was all over the place. Yet we kept him, 'just in case', just like we are paying Jagielka's wages too.

In front of a beleaguered back three we have our old mate Oliver Norwood. It's refreshing to see many on here now swallowing their pride and their wrongness and admitting this bloke is a midfield potato, gifted with one fleeting talent and only then in the Championship and below. Tonight he was fucking awful and deservedly subbed. Either side we have Berge, the only bloke who can actually hold onto the ball for longer than ten seconds and Fleck, a man beamed in from planet Coventry City just last week. The last four years have been completely erased from his memory and now he is actually playing like some of the Sky Blues fans said he was, back in Div Four. Outside of that we have stroppy George, who tonight soiled his pants and Lowe, who is still adjusting to the fact that he's not still at Derby County. He's still playing like he is, mind.

Oh god. Up front. Jesus. Aside from the obvious, easily substituted Oliver Burke (I am still trying to figure out why we bought Robinson, played him, loaned him, WBA bought him and gave us Burke) and his pace and determination, McBurnie is now the worst signing we have ever made, and in that I include a litany of other duffers like Higdon, Brayford and Done. Fuck me, we have wasted some fucking money on this campaign to the big time and has it backfied or what? Maupay or McBurnie? £20million. That's a lot of cash for six goals last season and fucking nowt this season. He doesn't even look like scoring, that's the kicker. In fact, nether does Brewster (£23million) or Mousett (£10million). There's nothing to give to them, and even when it's there, it's over the fucking bar.

I'm gonna rebuff and challenge anyone who says these statements:

1. It'll be reyt. Wilder will fix it. Plenty of time.

2. We were unlucky.

Firstly, time is running out for Wilder to suddenly pull a miraculous run of (winning, not drawing) results for us to make the magical 'safe' total. For that to happen, we have to score goals (we can't) and stop conceding (we can't do this, either). Secondly, luck is what you make it. Johnstone had a good game tonight, but out of what - 12 attempts on target (a new high for us) at least three of them should have gone in.

Ramsdale 6/10: For his marginal improvements. Their goal rolled past him from range, without any real power.

Baldock 4/10: Poor game. Struggled like fuck and his miss was unforgivable

Basham 5/10: Another iffy output from one of our better players

Egan 6/10: Did his best to block, defend and cover for the ineptitude of Bryan

Bryan 4/10: His one saving grace, the cross for Burke's header, was about the only thing of worth. Otherwise he was completely playing below his status

Lowe 4/10: Another one who clearly can't understand our rickety 5-3-2 system

Berge 5.5/10: At least tried to put in a shift. His clearance though was pathetic and led to their goal

Norwood 1/10: End it, Wilder.

Fleck 5/10: He is nothing like the John Fleck of old. Tonight was a clear example of that. Prove me wrong? Okay. First goal vs the pigs versus that fucking stupid early free kick which ended up floating over everyone's head and out of play.

McBurnie 2/10: Carrots. I think he likes it in midfield

Burke 6/10: Purposeful and willing to run at and past oppositions and scare them to death. Last time he scored though was, erm ... um ... Silent?

Subs:

Brewster 5/10: Poor kid.

Lundstram 5/10: Well, at least he tried. Another one playing in the wrong league

Mousett 2/10: Business as usual

We'll never fucking learn unless Wilder get's it in his head that starting with the same shitty lineup now results in a loss. It has for nine out of the ten games we have played so far and it won't change unless either the game Sheffield United plays changes ... or he changes. It's as stark a reality as that. I don't care for any thoughts about us 'outplaying them tonight' That is Trumpian bollocks. We did the same thing - ten minutes of promising attacking football (with fuck all to show for it, mind) then suddenly (eleven minutes in this time) West Brom gained possession and we are off struggling, this time not against Chelsea, or Liverpool or West Ham, but against a team freshly promoted and without a win themselves. We went behind to a fucking pointless and avoidable goal, shinned in from 22 yards which bobbled through a sea of players and failed to let the opposition pass it round us, park the bus, keep it away from us and waste time feigning injury.

To people who don't share my opinion - I respect that. What I don't respect is personal, directed abuse, or simply eating up page space not explaining why you disagree. It might shock you to know that people are interested in debate and differences of opinion. If you just want to be a dismissive, mardy arsed cunt just because we've lost and someone is commenting on it, the rusks and your blankie are over here and go put yourself to bed and have a rooer. Meanwhile, Sheffield United are in one of the biggest existential crises they have had possibly for a decade or two. If you can't join in the grown ups conversation about this, go play with your meccano or sit and watch Little Baby Bum or Hey Duggie. That goes for anyone slavvering Deadbat too.

pommpey
love your passion mate but i saw definite shoots of recovery and for the first time since lockdown saw a bit of a performance.. this one isn't going to age well i reckon ;)
caveat emptor: we have to drop the five at the back. We've tried every one and uncle tom cobbley in the JoC position and noone can do it. it is starting to remind me of what Wilder did after Coutts got injured ie panic. You have to change it to the formation at the end Chris, at least in the short term.
 
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Imagine if everyone on this forum made an individual thread to express their opinion. It's almost as if the inherent format of an online message board would shit itself.
 
An interesting read and quite a few things I agree with although I dont think we were rubbish last night. I sound like a stuck record but this season all stems from the awful activity in the transfer window:

  • Not replacing JOC when we knew the club knew he was injured before the last lockdown
  • Not signing even one player who could instantly improve the first 11
  • Spending money on a couple of Derby lads who arent ready/good enough for the PL
  • Focussing on finding cover, rather than improvements
  • Not addressing the midfield at all, so CW has no option to change it apart from a want-a-way Lunny

This is a combo of CW messing it up and the board not being able to pay the wages to attract our top targets (it's obvious we missed out on most of them, Cash, Swift etc. Although, I do find it difficult to blame the board when they fronted up millions for Brewster, the Derby duds and Rammers.
 
Fucking rubbish. Tonight was a game we had a serious chance to hook over the 17th spot and get some momentum. Instead an avoidable single goal and some breathtakingly shit missing of chances has really all but committed us to the lower division next year.

I've seen some of the counter responses on here addressing people finally waking up and slinging pelters at the team and staff. To those, instead of saying 'fuck off', try accounting for the woefulness on display tonight. Sure, there were some fleeting positives from some areas but overall our team looks bereft of confidence, disjointed and largely as though the last four seasons just haven't happened. From goalkeeper to strikers it is as bad a display as the dark days of Wier or Adkins on a comparative status. When we went down 1-0 to now functionally non-existent Bury away in February 2016, did we feel any different or desperate about our future? What about when Millwall or Southend turned us over later on? Could we honestly see where the next win or goal would come from?

Well, possibly.

I think we are as good as relegated now, with a possible maximum of 15 points. It's a bit of a shit situation, given our pretty pisspoor demise under Warnock and give the amount of shit half our supporters gave him both during and after our relegation, I wonder what is in store for Chris Wilder. He is revered as God in our circles and for all the right reasons, but of him and Knill are carrying out some sort of sporting experiment to see what combination actually works in their seemingly unchangeable 5-3-2, then time is running out. Tonight's lineup and bench, formation and sub strategy was in my opinion, wank. Kean Bryan is nowhere near where Robinson, Ampadu or even Stevens (see what I did there?) is is regarding experience and playing time. To drop him into a back three and expect him to be match sharp was laughable, and told it's own story throughout the match with Basham and Egan fully aware who they'd got on their left hand side. Bryan is a reserve and should stay so. He should be loaned out with an option to buy to some lower end Championship club, because quite simply, that's where he is and that's where he was when Deadbat (I think it was) reported on him in a reserve match (fucking ages ago now) and saying he was all over the place. Yet we kept him, 'just in case', just like we are paying Jagielka's wages too.

In front of a beleaguered back three we have our old mate Oliver Norwood. It's refreshing to see many on here now swallowing their pride and their wrongness and admitting this bloke is a midfield potato, gifted with one fleeting talent and only then in the Championship and below. Tonight he was fucking awful and deservedly subbed. Either side we have Berge, the only bloke who can actually hold onto the ball for longer than ten seconds and Fleck, a man beamed in from planet Coventry City just last week. The last four years have been completely erased from his memory and now he is actually playing like some of the Sky Blues fans said he was, back in Div Four. Outside of that we have stroppy George, who tonight soiled his pants and Lowe, who is still adjusting to the fact that he's not still at Derby County. He's still playing like he is, mind.

Oh god. Up front. Jesus. Aside from the obvious, easily substituted Oliver Burke (I am still trying to figure out why we bought Robinson, played him, loaned him, WBA bought him and gave us Burke) and his pace and determination, McBurnie is now the worst signing we have ever made, and in that I include a litany of other duffers like Higdon, Brayford and Done. Fuck me, we have wasted some fucking money on this campaign to the big time and has it backfied or what? Maupay or McBurnie? £20million. That's a lot of cash for six goals last season and fucking nowt this season. He doesn't even look like scoring, that's the kicker. In fact, nether does Brewster (£23million) or Mousett (£10million). There's nothing to give to them, and even when it's there, it's over the fucking bar.

I'm gonna rebuff and challenge anyone who says these statements:

1. It'll be reyt. Wilder will fix it. Plenty of time.

2. We were unlucky.

Firstly, time is running out for Wilder to suddenly pull a miraculous run of (winning, not drawing) results for us to make the magical 'safe' total. For that to happen, we have to score goals (we can't) and stop conceding (we can't do this, either). Secondly, luck is what you make it. Johnstone had a good game tonight, but out of what - 12 attempts on target (a new high for us) at least three of them should have gone in.

Ramsdale 6/10: For his marginal improvements. Their goal rolled past him from range, without any real power.

Baldock 4/10: Poor game. Struggled like fuck and his miss was unforgivable

Basham 5/10: Another iffy output from one of our better players

Egan 6/10: Did his best to block, defend and cover for the ineptitude of Bryan

Bryan 4/10: His one saving grace, the cross for Burke's header, was about the only thing of worth. Otherwise he was completely playing below his status

Lowe 4/10: Another one who clearly can't understand our rickety 5-3-2 system

Berge 5.5/10: At least tried to put in a shift. His clearance though was pathetic and led to their goal

Norwood 1/10: End it, Wilder.

Fleck 5/10: He is nothing like the John Fleck of old. Tonight was a clear example of that. Prove me wrong? Okay. First goal vs the pigs versus that fucking stupid early free kick which ended up floating over everyone's head and out of play.

McBurnie 2/10: Carrots. I think he likes it in midfield

Burke 6/10: Purposeful and willing to run at and past oppositions and scare them to death. Last time he scored though was, erm ... um ... Silent?

Subs:

Brewster 5/10: Poor kid.

Lundstram 5/10: Well, at least he tried. Another one playing in the wrong league

Mousett 2/10: Business as usual

We'll never fucking learn unless Wilder get's it in his head that starting with the same shitty lineup now results in a loss. It has for nine out of the ten games we have played so far and it won't change unless either the game Sheffield United plays changes ... or he changes. It's as stark a reality as that. I don't care for any thoughts about us 'outplaying them tonight' That is Trumpian bollocks. We did the same thing - ten minutes of promising attacking football (with fuck all to show for it, mind) then suddenly (eleven minutes in this time) West Brom gained possession and we are off struggling, this time not against Chelsea, or Liverpool or West Ham, but against a team freshly promoted and without a win themselves. We went behind to a fucking pointless and avoidable goal, shinned in from 22 yards which bobbled through a sea of players and failed to let the opposition pass it round us, park the bus, keep it away from us and waste time feigning injury.

To people who don't share my opinion - I respect that. What I don't respect is personal, directed abuse, or simply eating up page space not explaining why you disagree. It might shock you to know that people are interested in debate and differences of opinion. If you just want to be a dismissive, mardy arsed cunt just because we've lost and someone is commenting on it, the rusks and your blankie are over here and go put yourself to bed and have a rooer. Meanwhile, Sheffield United are in one of the biggest existential crises they have had possibly for a decade or two. If you can't join in the grown ups conversation about this, go play with your meccano or sit and watch Little Baby Bum or Hey Duggie. That goes for anyone slavvering Deadbat too.

pommpey
I’m not just posting this to point out where I disagree with you because mostly I do think you’re right but I think it’s incredibly harsh to give McBurnie a 2/10.

I thought he linked the play well today and did well - yes of course he missed a chance that he really should have scored but does that mean the rest of his game was a 2/10?

Not for me.

Anyway they’re your ratings so you can judge however you see it, and most I would probably deserve it. I just see a lot of comments of ‘hes not good enough’ and I don’t agree.
 
An interesting read and quite a few things I agree with although I dont think we were rubbish last night. I sound like a stuck record but this season all stems from the awful activity in the transfer window:

  • Not replacing JOC when we knew the club knew he was injured before the last lockdown
  • Not signing even one player who could instantly improve the first 11
  • Spending money on a couple of Derby lads who arent ready/good enough for the PL
  • Focussing on finding cover, rather than improvements
  • Not addressing the midfield at all, so CW has no option to change it apart from a want-a-way Lunny

This is a combo of CW messing it up and the board not being able to pay the wages to attract our top targets (it's obvious we missed out on most of them, Cash, Swift etc. Although, I do find it difficult to blame the board when they fronted up millions for Brewster, the Derby duds and Rammers.
Absolutely spot on
 
An interesting read and quite a few things I agree with although I dont think we were rubbish last night. I sound like a stuck record but this season all stems from the awful activity in the transfer window:

  • Not replacing JOC when we knew the club knew he was injured before the last lockdown
  • Not signing even one player who could instantly improve the first 11
  • Spending money on a couple of Derby lads who arent ready/good enough for the PL
  • Focussing on finding cover, rather than improvements
  • Not addressing the midfield at all, so CW has no option to change it apart from a want-a-way Lunny

This is a combo of CW messing it up and the board not being able to pay the wages to attract our top targets (it's obvious we missed out on most of them, Cash, Swift etc. Although, I do find it difficult to blame the board when they fronted up millions for Brewster, the Derby duds and Rammers.

I also think we overlooked someone like Joe Lolley at Forest. Left side, a bit Murphyesque. Takes players on.

pommpey
 
An interesting read and quite a few things I agree with although I dont think we were rubbish last night. I sound like a stuck record but this season all stems from the awful activity in the transfer window:

  • Not replacing JOC when we knew the club knew he was injured before the last lockdown
  • Not signing even one player who could instantly improve the first 11
  • Spending money on a couple of Derby lads who arent ready/good enough for the PL
  • Focussing on finding cover, rather than improvements
  • Not addressing the midfield at all, so CW has no option to change it apart from a want-a-way Lunny

This is a combo of CW messing it up and the board not being able to pay the wages to attract our top targets (it's obvious we missed out on most of them, Cash, Swift etc. Although, I do find it difficult to blame the board when they fronted up millions for Brewster, the Derby duds and Rammers.
Replacing JoC is not possible in the short term. Nobody can play that position instantly, at least anyone who isn't going to cost 75 million.
The midfield has already been addressed but for some reason the solution is in the wrong position. Playing Berge right midfield is like sticking TC on the wing.
Ramsdale will turn out ok but i wish we'd have gone for Foster. he was superb on Boxing day

can't disagree with the other points though. Wilder is 'learning' at this level. And he isn't used to losing generally. It will be a big test. Whether he adapts quickly enough who knows? i think he can do it.
 
Fucking rubbish. Tonight was a game we had a serious chance to hook over the 17th spot and get some momentum. Instead an avoidable single goal and some breathtakingly shit missing of chances has really all but committed us to the lower division next year.

I've seen some of the counter responses on here addressing people finally waking up and slinging pelters at the team and staff. To those, instead of saying 'fuck off', try accounting for the woefulness on display tonight. Sure, there were some fleeting positives from some areas but overall our team looks bereft of confidence, disjointed and largely as though the last four seasons just haven't happened. From goalkeeper to strikers it is as bad a display as the dark days of Wier or Adkins on a comparative status. When we went down 1-0 to now functionally non-existent Bury away in February 2016, did we feel any different or desperate about our future? What about when Millwall or Southend turned us over later on? Could we honestly see where the next win or goal would come from?

Well, possibly.

I think we are as good as relegated now, with a possible maximum of 15 points. It's a bit of a shit situation, given our pretty pisspoor demise under Warnock and give the amount of shit half our supporters gave him both during and after our relegation, I wonder what is in store for Chris Wilder. He is revered as God in our circles and for all the right reasons, but of him and Knill are carrying out some sort of sporting experiment to see what combination actually works in their seemingly unchangeable 5-3-2, then time is running out. Tonight's lineup and bench, formation and sub strategy was in my opinion, wank. Kean Bryan is nowhere near where Robinson, Ampadu or even Stevens (see what I did there?) is is regarding experience and playing time. To drop him into a back three and expect him to be match sharp was laughable, and told it's own story throughout the match with Basham and Egan fully aware who they'd got on their left hand side. Bryan is a reserve and should stay so. He should be loaned out with an option to buy to some lower end Championship club, because quite simply, that's where he is and that's where he was when Deadbat (I think it was) reported on him in a reserve match (fucking ages ago now) and saying he was all over the place. Yet we kept him, 'just in case', just like we are paying Jagielka's wages too.

In front of a beleaguered back three we have our old mate Oliver Norwood. It's refreshing to see many on here now swallowing their pride and their wrongness and admitting this bloke is a midfield potato, gifted with one fleeting talent and only then in the Championship and below. Tonight he was fucking awful and deservedly subbed. Either side we have Berge, the only bloke who can actually hold onto the ball for longer than ten seconds and Fleck, a man beamed in from planet Coventry City just last week. The last four years have been completely erased from his memory and now he is actually playing like some of the Sky Blues fans said he was, back in Div Four. Outside of that we have stroppy George, who tonight soiled his pants and Lowe, who is still adjusting to the fact that he's not still at Derby County. He's still playing like he is, mind.

Oh god. Up front. Jesus. Aside from the obvious, easily substituted Oliver Burke (I am still trying to figure out why we bought Robinson, played him, loaned him, WBA bought him and gave us Burke) and his pace and determination, McBurnie is now the worst signing we have ever made, and in that I include a litany of other duffers like Higdon, Brayford and Done. Fuck me, we have wasted some fucking money on this campaign to the big time and has it backfied or what? Maupay or McBurnie? £20million. That's a lot of cash for six goals last season and fucking nowt this season. He doesn't even look like scoring, that's the kicker. In fact, nether does Brewster (£23million) or Mousett (£10million). There's nothing to give to them, and even when it's there, it's over the fucking bar.

I'm gonna rebuff and challenge anyone who says these statements:

1. It'll be reyt. Wilder will fix it. Plenty of time.

2. We were unlucky.

Firstly, time is running out for Wilder to suddenly pull a miraculous run of (winning, not drawing) results for us to make the magical 'safe' total. For that to happen, we have to score goals (we can't) and stop conceding (we can't do this, either). Secondly, luck is what you make it. Johnstone had a good game tonight, but out of what - 12 attempts on target (a new high for us) at least three of them should have gone in.

Ramsdale 6/10: For his marginal improvements. Their goal rolled past him from range, without any real power.

Baldock 4/10: Poor game. Struggled like fuck and his miss was unforgivable

Basham 5/10: Another iffy output from one of our better players

Egan 6/10: Did his best to block, defend and cover for the ineptitude of Bryan

Bryan 4/10: His one saving grace, the cross for Burke's header, was about the only thing of worth. Otherwise he was completely playing below his status

Lowe 4/10: Another one who clearly can't understand our rickety 5-3-2 system

Berge 5.5/10: At least tried to put in a shift. His clearance though was pathetic and led to their goal

Norwood 1/10: End it, Wilder.

Fleck 5/10: He is nothing like the John Fleck of old. Tonight was a clear example of that. Prove me wrong? Okay. First goal vs the pigs versus that fucking stupid early free kick which ended up floating over everyone's head and out of play.

McBurnie 2/10: Carrots. I think he likes it in midfield

Burke 6/10: Purposeful and willing to run at and past oppositions and scare them to death. Last time he scored though was, erm ... um ... Silent?

Subs:

Brewster 5/10: Poor kid.

Lundstram 5/10: Well, at least he tried. Another one playing in the wrong league

Mousett 2/10: Business as usual

We'll never fucking learn unless Wilder get's it in his head that starting with the same shitty lineup now results in a loss. It has for nine out of the ten games we have played so far and it won't change unless either the game Sheffield United plays changes ... or he changes. It's as stark a reality as that. I don't care for any thoughts about us 'outplaying them tonight' That is Trumpian bollocks. We did the same thing - ten minutes of promising attacking football (with fuck all to show for it, mind) then suddenly (eleven minutes in this time) West Brom gained possession and we are off struggling, this time not against Chelsea, or Liverpool or West Ham, but against a team freshly promoted and without a win themselves. We went behind to a fucking pointless and avoidable goal, shinned in from 22 yards which bobbled through a sea of players and failed to let the opposition pass it round us, park the bus, keep it away from us and waste time feigning injury.

To people who don't share my opinion - I respect that. What I don't respect is personal, directed abuse, or simply eating up page space not explaining why you disagree. It might shock you to know that people are interested in debate and differences of opinion. If you just want to be a dismissive, mardy arsed cunt just because we've lost and someone is commenting on it, the rusks and your blankie are over here and go put yourself to bed and have a rooer. Meanwhile, Sheffield United are in one of the biggest existential crises they have had possibly for a decade or two. If you can't join in the grown ups conversation about this, go play with your meccano or sit and watch Little Baby Bum or Hey Duggie. That goes for anyone slavvering Deadbat too.

pommpey

Brilliant overview with some thought provoking analysis. When I read your ‘takes’ I always ask myself whether they would work as well without the expletives. And they would. But then I say to myself what a refreshing edgy and alternative angle. As opposed to reports such as ‘On a bitterly cold afternoon the Blades lined up with .... etc’.

Keep up the fucking good work you fucking fucker.
 
Replacing JoC is not possible in the short term. Nobody can play that position instantly, at least anyone who isn't going to cost 75 million.
The midfield has already been addressed but for some reason the solution is in the wrong position. Playing Berge right midfield is like sticking TC on the wing.
Ramsdale will turn out ok but i wish we'd have gone for Foster. he was superb on Boxing day

can't disagree with the other points though. Wilder is 'learning' at this level. And he isn't used to losing generally. It will be a big test. Whether he adapts quickly enough who knows? i think he can do it.
I agree, it would taken a bit of learning for a player who came into the JOC role, but we didnt sign anybody even in that scope - which is what I find frustrating. CW basically admitted last night that Jack Robinson isnt good enough - but that was obvious as soon as last season resumed. Yeah I agree on Foster, plus it would have saved some transfer fees for a genuine PL player.
 

Anyway they’re your ratings so you can judge however you see it, and most I would probably deserve it. I just see a lot of comments of ‘hes not good enough’ and I don’t agree.

Fair one. I do disagree, mind. I think 'not good enough' gives us the result we got and indeed deserve. McBurnie has had a giant array of chances in front of goal and either nodded it wide (Man U last season) straight at the keeper (countless times this season) or wellied it blindly (again, too many times) without having that composure to have the killer instinct. I watched his YT showreel as we signed him (because to be honest, he wasn't one I'd have gone for) and wasn't particularly impressed, given he was scoring mainly against poor Championship sides. It didn't say 'Didier Drogba', 'Olivier Giroud' or 'Kanu' to me (as a comparison). He just seemed a bit industrial, lacking finesse and a bit pub league. And that isn't what you get away with in the top flight. We already had one of those in Leon Clarke anyway.

And for that, all other signings (with a vague exemption for Sander Berge) have been bobbins. None of them have given us anything. Think about it, the two players who have remained consistently decent are Baldock and Basham, both with us for some time and both who have adapted well to the top flight.

pommpey
 

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