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Tremendous effort today. Came out of the blocks determined not to let West Ham get anywhere near the ball and broke up any attempt they had to string even three or four passes together. From back to front you can see Wilder has got inside their heads finally and we are starting to look like the PL team we always were. McBurnie's two goals were sublime finishing and Brewster's first goal showed what we have spent the money on. Three points finally in the bag now and the players faces as we left the pitch said it all that West Brom next week now have some work to do to even get a goal against us.

Is maybe what it should have looked like.

However, business as usual restored.

Don't know what it is about us and the first fifteen minutes, but West Ham, like Chelsea, like Liverpool, looked rattled and unsettled. Great long punt from Egan finds Baldock and okay, he overran it but got a shot on goal (gasp) which in honesty, should have been clipped into the opposite top corner. But we didn't stop there, we kept pressing, West Ham camped deep and absorbed it though. Then, like Chelsea ... like Liverpool and (I looked at the clock) on fifteen they gained possession and simply denied us access to the round yellow thing. And with a worrying pattern now showing, once that happens, once we turn over possession, we simply don't have the gift to cut them out and regain it. We watch them progressively passing, moving into space, creating options and moving us round the pitch. Then they'd give us the ball, safe in the knowledge that we'd be pushed into the predictable wide areas and have a 3 v 4 puzzle to work out. Sure, we got a great Basham cross in which McBurnie got to, and a nice Berge low cross which if McBurnie was anything of the forward he thinks he is would have started his move as soon as Berge looked up, not when the ball left his boot. And we hit the post, of sorts, but really, there was no real stress compared to the good saves Ramsdale pulled off and the howler they spooned.

We were though on the back foot for most of the game. Even in the second half we were chasing shadows and not really putting our foot on the game. There were some small positives, but they were ineffectual given the result. It was game we could have won but had to lose.

Ramsdale 6/10: Great improvement regarding shot stopping. Loses a point for his kicking. The aimless left-foot punt up the pitch landed straight at the feet of the opposition. Was blameless for getting anything on the shot which was a lesson on how to smack a ball to beat a keeper from just outside the box. Flecky used to do that.
Baldock 7/10: Again, a typical outing from Stroppy George. He is the picture of commitment and gets stuck in and even drifted across the pitch today (which left gaping holes behind him which WHU just filled once we'd given the ball to them)
Basham 7/10: Again, great commitment. But does anyone feel a sense of dread and disillusionment in his face and demeanour. Especially when he's fucking subbed for Lundstram
Egan 7/10: Put in some great work trying to get in the way of WHUs rare advances. Excellent block against their winger when clean through on goal
Ampadu 3/10: Looks like he fucking hates being at BDTBL. He's out of position at LCB and doesn't have the range, vision or height. Like Stevens. Like Robinson. Like anyone. Except JO'C.
Lowe 3/10: Signed from who? Oh yeah. Bottom of the Championship. How much for? Oh yeah. Shitloads. He is another player who clearly doesn't get 5-3-2 because he plays so narrow and can't draw a line up the pitch from the corner of each penalty area and simply run up and down in that region. And he can't fucking pass or cross for toffee.
Berge 6.5/10: Bit of a suppressed day for Sander. Although there were times when he did his best to keep possession and create openings, he can't do all of this on his own.
Norwood 2/10: Here we go again. Pommpey's burning Norwood to the ground again. He deserves it. No real redeeming measures today, save for one fleeting through pass. The rest was slow, ponderous. one-track and not PL football standard. Their goal came from central defence straight into his area to a WHU player who simply drifted forward (unchallenged), laid it off, an attempted shot (Norwood is stationary and spectating now) and the ball is laid square to Haller who steadies himself (Norwood less than 2m away) and unleashes the winner, straight into the top corner. I half expected Norwood to break into applause. That, my fellow Blades, is NOT PL standard. It's shit. Again, let me point to similar players in his position - Nicky Butt, N'golo Kante, Yaya Toure, Bastian Sweinsteiger, Michael Carrack ... all whom at the Premier League level tend to have that tendency to first of all protect the back four/three but secondly be incredibly difficult to get past or who move fluidly to face the advancing attack and be effectively the first player. He's none of that. He will do a Championship club a great service if we transferred him out in January and today's subbing was not before time. He can neither keep the ball nor win it, and for someone who occupies the central pivot or 'regista' role and clearly can't do it at this level, Wilder needs to rethink both home and the formation. At the moment, I'd take even Lundstram in Norwood's place, at least he can get stuck in and tackle.
Fleck 6.5/10: Nice to see him back and showing some of the flourishes we liked last season, but he is so lost without Stevens and O'Connell. Ampadu and Lowe were nowhere near hi today and that left flank once again was fragile
McGoldrick 7/10: Though he ran his socks off and did well getting the ball to the floor, holding onto the ball, harrying and even (shriek!) had a few timid shots
McBurnie 4/10: Thought he worked hard, but then again, I could work hard for an hour and a half masturbating into a handful of my own faeces and not really achieve anything but a shitty dick. I read on twitter he 'wins stacks of aerial challenges'. Great. Win them he does, but the ball rebounds off his top of his melon and to their players. I don't call that 'winning aerial challenges'. I call it 'jumping and heading the ball' and indeed, I can do that, even if it is into next door's garden. He got his famous head to one cross from our winger Chris Basham which although top corner bound, was reached and pushed round the post with an athletic jump. Pay attention Aaron Ramsdale, next time Jiminez nuts the ball to your top corner son and you flap in mid air. And then, he's put through - at last - by a splitting pass from Brewster whereby his pace just got him enough to crack the ball off the bar from eight yards. I felt a bit sorry for Mitrovic when he pinged the top of the bar for Fulham v us and even Grealish last year. But when you're one on one and your team is bottom with fuck all goals and points and you want to shut fat fucks like me up for good and bury the fucking chance, claiming your first goal for ... ohhh ... ages, in the words of Alan Hansen, 'y've got te score'. And he didn't. And we lost. The end.

Brewster 4/10: Bit more involved and the pass to McBurnie was good, but he's getting nothing and now looks ready to give football up for good, having been offloaded for an obscene amount to an all but relegated side.
Lundstram 3/10: Why, Wilder? Why?
Robinson 4/10: Forced upon us, but if anything, a slight upgrade on a clearly pissed off Ampadu

Wilder 3/10: Chris, mate. Time is running out. Change the formation and the tactics. The wings are now out of bounds and play through the centre on the deck is the way. Just a tip, from a Playstation Manager. We know what the problem is - the giant hole Jack O'Connell has left and your struggle to fill it with three or four players. But remember that struggle with Coutts? Remember how you signed everyone from Holmes to L Evans to Lundstram to make shit fit, well, with Jack, nothing will fill his voluminous boots. Not Robinson, not Stevens and definitely not Ampadu. So maybe a change in tactics and formation could solve this. You won't get another £20m from HRH, not after having all the cash chucked at you recently. And £20m will only get you another Ampadu, or Robinson too. And stop picking Lundstram, eh? He's today's Nick Montgomery, only worse. Change that midfield so we can play it like the opposition and keep the ball (we did this for eight minutes early in the second half, then it ended up us defending in desperation) and we can find either McBurnie's head (although fuck knows why) or a clever ball through to a running Brewster or Mousett.

Opposition: Bowen, Rice, Cresswell - all good.

pommpey
 

Tremendous effort today. Came out of the blocks determined not to let West Ham get anywhere near the ball and broke up any attempt they had to string even three or four passes together. From back to front you can see Wilder has got inside their heads finally and we are starting to look like the PL team we always were. McBurnie's two goals were sublime finishing and Brewster's first goal showed what we have spent the money on. Three points finally in the bag now and the players faces as we left the pitch said it all that West Brom next week now have some work to do to even get a goal against us.

Is maybe what it should have looked like.

However, business as usual restored.

Don't know what it is about us and the first fifteen minutes, but West Ham, like Chelsea, like Liverpool, looked rattled and unsettled. Great long punt from Egan finds Baldock and okay, he overran it but got a shot on goal (gasp) which in honesty, should have been clipped into the opposite top corner. But we didn't stop there, we kept pressing, West Ham camped deep and absorbed it though. Then, like Chelsea ... like Liverpool and (I looked at the clock) on fifteen they gained possession and simply denied us access to the round yellow thing. And with a worrying pattern now showing, once that happens, once we turn over possession, we simply don't have the gift to cut them out and regain it. We watch them progressively passing, moving into space, creating options and moving us round the pitch. Then they'd give us the ball, safe in the knowledge that we'd be pushed into the predictable wide areas and have a 3 v 4 puzzle to work out. Sure, we got a great Basham cross in which McBurnie got to, and a nice Berge low cross which if McBurnie was anything of the forward he thinks he is would have started his move as soon as Berge looked up, not when the ball left his boot. And we hit the post, of sorts, but really, there was no real stress compared to the good saves Ramsdale pulled off and the howler they spooned.

We were though on the back foot for most of the game. Even in the second half we were chasing shadows and not really putting our foot on the game. There were some small positives, but they were ineffectual given the result. It was game we could have won but had to lose.

Ramsdale 6/10: Great improvement regarding shot stopping. Loses a point for his kicking. The aimless left-foot punt up the pitch landed straight at the feet of the opposition. Was blameless for getting anything on the shot which was a lesson on how to smack a ball to beat a keeper from just outside the box. Flecky used to do that.
Baldock 7/10: Again, a typical outing from Stroppy George. He is the picture of commitment and gets stuck in and even drifted across the pitch today (which left gaping holes behind him which WHU just filled once we'd given the ball to them)
Basham 7/10: Again, great commitment. But does anyone feel a sense of dread and disillusionment in his face and demeanour. Especially when he's fucking subbed for Lundstram
Egan 7/10: Put in some great work trying to get in the way of WHUs rare advances. Excellent block against their winger when clean through on goal
Ampadu 3/10: Looks like he fucking hates being at BDTBL. He's out of position at LCB and doesn't have the range, vision or height. Like Stevens. Like Robinson. Like anyone. Except JO'C.
Lowe 3/10: Signed from who? Oh yeah. Bottom of the Championship. How much for? Oh yeah. Shitloads. He is another player who clearly doesn't get 5-3-2 because he plays so narrow and can't draw a line up the pitch from the corner of each penalty area and simply run up and down in that region. And he can't fucking pass or cross for toffee.
Berge 6.5/10: Bit of a suppressed day for Sander. Although there were times when he did his best to keep possession and create openings, he can't do all of this on his own.
Norwood 2/10: Here we go again. Pommpey's burning Norwood to the ground again. He deserves it. No real redeeming measures today, save for one fleeting through pass. The rest was slow, ponderous. one-track and not PL football standard. Their goal came from central defence straight into his area to a WHU player who simply drifted forward (unchallenged), laid it off, an attempted shot (Norwood is stationary and spectating now) and the ball is laid square to Haller who steadies himself (Norwood less than 2m away) and unleashes the winner, straight into the top corner. I half expected Norwood to break into applause. That, my fellow Blades, is NOT PL standard. It's shit. Again, let me point to similar players in his position - Nicky Butt, N'golo Kante, Yaya Toure, Bastian Sweinsteiger, Michael Carrack ... all whom at the Premier League level tend to have that tendency to first of all protect the back four/three but secondly be incredibly difficult to get past or who move fluidly to face the advancing attack and be effectively the first player. He's none of that. He will do a Championship club a great service if we transferred him out in January and today's subbing was not before time. He can neither keep the ball nor win it, and for someone who occupies the central pivot or 'regista' role and clearly can't do it at this level, Wilder needs to rethink both home and the formation. At the moment, I'd take even Lundstram in Norwood's place, at least he can get stuck in and tackle.
Fleck 6.5/10: Nice to see him back and showing some of the flourishes we liked last season, but he is so lost without Stevens and O'Connell. Ampadu and Lowe were nowhere near hi today and that left flank once again was fragile
McGoldrick 7/10: Though he ran his socks off and did well getting the ball to the floor, holding onto the ball, harrying and even (shriek!) had a few timid shots
McBurnie 4/10: Thought he worked hard, but then again, I could work hard for an hour and a half masturbating into a handful of my own faeces and not really achieve anything but a shitty dick. I read on twitter he 'wins stacks of aerial challenges'. Great. Win them he does, but the ball rebounds off his top of his melon and to their players. I don't call that 'winning aerial challenges'. I call it 'jumping and heading the ball' and indeed, I can do that, even if it is into next door's garden. He got his famous head to one cross from our winger Chris Basham which although top corner bound, was reached and pushed round the post with an athletic jump. Pay attention Aaron Ramsdale, next time Jiminez nuts the ball to your top corner son and you flap in mid air. And then, he's put through - at last - by a splitting pass from Brewster whereby his pace just got him enough to crack the ball off the bar from eight yards. I felt a bit sorry for Mitrovic when he pinged the top of the bar for Fulham v us and even Grealish last year. But when you're one on one and your team is bottom with fuck all goals and points and you want to shut fat fucks like me up for good and bury the fucking chance, claiming your first goal for ... ohhh ... ages, in the words of Alan Hansen, 'y've got te score'. And he didn't. And we lost. The end.

Brewster 4/10: Bit more involved and the pass to McBurnie was good, but he's getting nothing and now looks ready to give football up for good, having been offloaded for an obscene amount to an all but relegated side.
Lundstram 3/10: Why, Wilder? Why?
Robinson 4/10: Forced upon us, but if anything, a slight upgrade on a clearly pissed off Ampadu

Wilder 3/10: Chris, mate. Time is running out. Change the formation and the tactics. The wings are now out of bounds and play through the centre on the deck is the way. Just a tip, from a Playstation Manager. We know what the problem is - the giant hole Jack O'Connell has left and your struggle to fill it with three or four players. But remember that struggle with Coutts? Remember how you signed everyone from Holmes to L Evans to Lundstram to make shit fit, well, with Jack, nothing will fill his voluminous boots. Not Robinson, not Stevens and definitely not Ampadu. So maybe a change in tactics and formation could solve this. You won't get another £20m from HRH, not after having all the cash chucked at you recently. And £20m will only get you another Ampadu, or Robinson too. And stop picking Lundstram, eh? He's today's Nick Montgomery, only worse. Change that midfield so we can play it like the opposition and keep the ball (we did this for eight minutes early in the second half, then it ended up us defending in desperation) and we can find either McBurnie's head (although fuck knows why) or a clever ball through to a running Brewster or Mousett.

Opposition: Bowen, Rice, Cresswell - all good.

pommpey
Some very generous scores there Pomp's!
 
Tremendous effort today. Came out of the blocks determined not to let West Ham get anywhere near the ball and broke up any attempt they had to string even three or four passes together. From back to front you can see Wilder has got inside their heads finally and we are starting to look like the PL team we always were. McBurnie's two goals were sublime finishing and Brewster's first goal showed what we have spent the money on. Three points finally in the bag now and the players faces as we left the pitch said it all that West Brom next week now have some work to do to even get a goal against us.

Is maybe what it should have looked like.

However, business as usual restored.

Don't know what it is about us and the first fifteen minutes, but West Ham, like Chelsea, like Liverpool, looked rattled and unsettled. Great long punt from Egan finds Baldock and okay, he overran it but got a shot on goal (gasp) which in honesty, should have been clipped into the opposite top corner. But we didn't stop there, we kept pressing, West Ham camped deep and absorbed it though. Then, like Chelsea ... like Liverpool and (I looked at the clock) on fifteen they gained possession and simply denied us access to the round yellow thing. And with a worrying pattern now showing, once that happens, once we turn over possession, we simply don't have the gift to cut them out and regain it. We watch them progressively passing, moving into space, creating options and moving us round the pitch. Then they'd give us the ball, safe in the knowledge that we'd be pushed into the predictable wide areas and have a 3 v 4 puzzle to work out. Sure, we got a great Basham cross in which McBurnie got to, and a nice Berge low cross which if McBurnie was anything of the forward he thinks he is would have started his move as soon as Berge looked up, not when the ball left his boot. And we hit the post, of sorts, but really, there was no real stress compared to the good saves Ramsdale pulled off and the howler they spooned.

We were though on the back foot for most of the game. Even in the second half we were chasing shadows and not really putting our foot on the game. There were some small positives, but they were ineffectual given the result. It was game we could have won but had to lose.

Ramsdale 6/10: Great improvement regarding shot stopping. Loses a point for his kicking. The aimless left-foot punt up the pitch landed straight at the feet of the opposition. Was blameless for getting anything on the shot which was a lesson on how to smack a ball to beat a keeper from just outside the box. Flecky used to do that.
Baldock 7/10: Again, a typical outing from Stroppy George. He is the picture of commitment and gets stuck in and even drifted across the pitch today (which left gaping holes behind him which WHU just filled once we'd given the ball to them)
Basham 7/10: Again, great commitment. But does anyone feel a sense of dread and disillusionment in his face and demeanour. Especially when he's fucking subbed for Lundstram
Egan 7/10: Put in some great work trying to get in the way of WHUs rare advances. Excellent block against their winger when clean through on goal
Ampadu 3/10: Looks like he fucking hates being at BDTBL. He's out of position at LCB and doesn't have the range, vision or height. Like Stevens. Like Robinson. Like anyone. Except JO'C.
Lowe 3/10: Signed from who? Oh yeah. Bottom of the Championship. How much for? Oh yeah. Shitloads. He is another player who clearly doesn't get 5-3-2 because he plays so narrow and can't draw a line up the pitch from the corner of each penalty area and simply run up and down in that region. And he can't fucking pass or cross for toffee.
Berge 6.5/10: Bit of a suppressed day for Sander. Although there were times when he did his best to keep possession and create openings, he can't do all of this on his own.
Norwood 2/10: Here we go again. Pommpey's burning Norwood to the ground again. He deserves it. No real redeeming measures today, save for one fleeting through pass. The rest was slow, ponderous. one-track and not PL football standard. Their goal came from central defence straight into his area to a WHU player who simply drifted forward (unchallenged), laid it off, an attempted shot (Norwood is stationary and spectating now) and the ball is laid square to Haller who steadies himself (Norwood less than 2m away) and unleashes the winner, straight into the top corner. I half expected Norwood to break into applause. That, my fellow Blades, is NOT PL standard. It's shit. Again, let me point to similar players in his position - Nicky Butt, N'golo Kante, Yaya Toure, Bastian Sweinsteiger, Michael Carrack ... all whom at the Premier League level tend to have that tendency to first of all protect the back four/three but secondly be incredibly difficult to get past or who move fluidly to face the advancing attack and be effectively the first player. He's none of that. He will do a Championship club a great service if we transferred him out in January and today's subbing was not before time. He can neither keep the ball nor win it, and for someone who occupies the central pivot or 'regista' role and clearly can't do it at this level, Wilder needs to rethink both home and the formation. At the moment, I'd take even Lundstram in Norwood's place, at least he can get stuck in and tackle.
Fleck 6.5/10: Nice to see him back and showing some of the flourishes we liked last season, but he is so lost without Stevens and O'Connell. Ampadu and Lowe were nowhere near hi today and that left flank once again was fragile
McGoldrick 7/10: Though he ran his socks off and did well getting the ball to the floor, holding onto the ball, harrying and even (shriek!) had a few timid shots
McBurnie 4/10: Thought he worked hard, but then again, I could work hard for an hour and a half masturbating into a handful of my own faeces and not really achieve anything but a shitty dick. I read on twitter he 'wins stacks of aerial challenges'. Great. Win them he does, but the ball rebounds off his top of his melon and to their players. I don't call that 'winning aerial challenges'. I call it 'jumping and heading the ball' and indeed, I can do that, even if it is into next door's garden. He got his famous head to one cross from our winger Chris Basham which although top corner bound, was reached and pushed round the post with an athletic jump. Pay attention Aaron Ramsdale, next time Jiminez nuts the ball to your top corner son and you flap in mid air. And then, he's put through - at last - by a splitting pass from Brewster whereby his pace just got him enough to crack the ball off the bar from eight yards. I felt a bit sorry for Mitrovic when he pinged the top of the bar for Fulham v us and even Grealish last year. But when you're one on one and your team is bottom with fuck all goals and points and you want to shut fat fucks like me up for good and bury the fucking chance, claiming your first goal for ... ohhh ... ages, in the words of Alan Hansen, 'y've got te score'. And he didn't. And we lost. The end.

Brewster 4/10: Bit more involved and the pass to McBurnie was good, but he's getting nothing and now looks ready to give football up for good, having been offloaded for an obscene amount to an all but relegated side.
Lundstram 3/10: Why, Wilder? Why?
Robinson 4/10: Forced upon us, but if anything, a slight upgrade on a clearly pissed off Ampadu

Wilder 3/10: Chris, mate. Time is running out. Change the formation and the tactics. The wings are now out of bounds and play through the centre on the deck is the way. Just a tip, from a Playstation Manager. We know what the problem is - the giant hole Jack O'Connell has left and your struggle to fill it with three or four players. But remember that struggle with Coutts? Remember how you signed everyone from Holmes to L Evans to Lundstram to make shit fit, well, with Jack, nothing will fill his voluminous boots. Not Robinson, not Stevens and definitely not Ampadu. So maybe a change in tactics and formation could solve this. You won't get another £20m from HRH, not after having all the cash chucked at you recently. And £20m will only get you another Ampadu, or Robinson too. And stop picking Lundstram, eh? He's today's Nick Montgomery, only worse. Change that midfield so we can play it like the opposition and keep the ball (we did this for eight minutes early in the second half, then it ended up us defending in desperation) and we can find either McBurnie's head (although fuck knows why) or a clever ball through to a running Brewster or Mousett.

Opposition: Bowen, Rice, Cresswell - all good.

pommpey
Agree with some of that but 7 for McGoldrick?! I barely noticed he was playing.
 
Some very generous scores there Pomp's!

True, but there were areas where we were actually achieving.

Put it this way. If you left those above 7/10 on the pitch we'd have still lost 0-1.

The rest? All poppos.

pommpey
 
Yep Norwood crap again. 7 for McGoldrick is way too high. 6.5 for Berge is too high, he was ineffective again as he has been most of the time barring the one game against Spurs.
 
Theres no way Norwood is 2/10 compared to the general crap that was out there. But keep him scape goat if you really want to.

Lowe was easily our worst player.

Why the hell Lunny gets on when Osborn and Burke can't I don't know? Lunny doesnt even want to be at the lane. It takes the piss out of the rest of the players.

We simply aren't good enough all over the pitch and the worry is Wilder doesn't know how to improve us.

I cant see us beating West Brom.
 
Some odd marks there pommpey along with few I agree with.

McGoldrick 7/10?

He was worse than McBurnie and at least Ollie got in areas to have shots and I'm not his biggest fan.

I thought McGoldrick was slow and ineffective.

As for the midfield three...Norwood was not great bit not sure Berge or Fleck did much better. No way were they 6.5/10. Neither did anything that great. Maybe one Berge cross?

This notion of Berge doing it all on his own I don't get. He was never in the game other than a few safe passes. He is quite passive. I don't see this fantastic player that's just way too good for us. If he was that good he'd drive us forward. He's get on the ball. He'd influence things. A la Greslish. Granted different players. He is just letting games go by and not stamping his superior talent on games.

Equally Norwood is not a 2/10. He waa not anywhere near as bad as you make out and the criticism is way over the top I feel. He is his playing great but the whole midfield were ineffective after 10 minutes.

We got completely overran in midfield though but the other 2 have to take blame too. Even after Norwood went off we did not improve so the ire he gets is a bit odd.
 
Some odd marks there pommpey along with few I agree with.

McGoldrick 7/10?

He was worse than McBurnie and at least Ollie got in areas to have shots and I'm not his biggest fan.

I thought McGoldrick was slow and ineffective.

As for the midfield three...Norwood was not great bit not sure Berge or Fleck did much better. No way were they 6.5/10. Neither did anything that great. Maybe one Berge cross?

Equally Norwood is not a 2/10. He waa not anywhere near as bad as you make out and the criticism is way over the top I feel.

We got completely overran in midfield though but the other 2 have to take blame too. Even after Norwood went off we did not improve so the ire he gets is a bit odd.

I'll explain:

McGoldrick did a lot of fetching and carrying. He also hung onto the ball a lot more than McBurnie, who seems to have real snags when its down at his feet and he's moving through a crowd - even one - of players. McGoldrick also deigned to have a smack on goal, from scenarios he'd carved out himself. McBurnie is a simple target man, and even in that, he's no Peter Crouch, Niall Quinn or Danny Ings. He also has no pace, and given the one on one, if you'd given that to Burke, he'd have left his chaser spinning in the breeze. In short, McGoldrick cost us nowt as he was out of favour at Ipswich. McBurnie was a protracted either/or with Maupay and then a considerable amount of money thereafter. Can you say we have value in him, with six goals (last season) and some pretty shit finishing this season?

Norwood to me adds nothing to the midfield or his position. He's a stone and a few inches less than he should be in the regista role and connects poorly with the other nine outfield players. He was like that today. That is just his 'day job'. In attack, I'd imagine someone with such supposed gifted feet to be bending it round the wall or into the top corner at least twice a season or simply hitting it from range to make the opposition defence fear his ability or the opposition keepers work for a living. I haven't seen him hit a shot from distance since possibly his goal against Brentford two years ago. He scored once last season. That just isn't good enough, neither is the predictable crossfield ball, which he tried ... and failed with ... again today. Going forward he is easily read, closed down and dispossessed (compare Berge for that who at least holds onto the ball) and going backwards is either clumsy with the tackle, can't jockey or simply doesn't put in a challenge (see today for their goal) His contribution today was minimal (one decent pass) hence 2/10.

We are constantly being overran in midfield now (and I can go back and illustrate that with NUFC away last season, ManU, Leicester, this season we struggled with Fulham, Chelsea, Man City and christ knows who else. The pivot - the blocker - the focal point who intercepts attacks down the centre is Norwood, and he is easily passed round, fails to anticipate or is simply not good enough to read the level of play around him to be effective. Hence today, failing to intercept their advance down his central channel and his ball watching when Haller collected it and whacked it into the net past a despairing Ramsdale. Rammy's face when he got up (for once) was justifiably angry. Five players around Haller, Norwood the closest, and he gets a comfortable, directed and unchallenged strike into the top corner. I keep saying this but Fulham and Brighton - our PL rivals - couldn't see him playing in the top flight. I think Blades fans are being overly sentimental about icons from our promotion past ow where he is concerned and he is beyond criticism. We need to restructure that midfield - especially him and his left flank because it is the start of the weaknesses is our side.

pommpey
 
I'll explain:

McGoldrick did a lot of fetching and carrying. He also hung onto the ball a lot more than McBurnie, who seems to have real snags when its down at his feet and he's moving through a crowd - even one - of players. McGoldrick also deigned to have a smack on goal, from scenarios he'd carved out himself. McBurnie is a simple target man, and even in that, he's no Peter Crouch, Niall Quinn or Danny Ings. He also has no pace, and given the one on one, if you'd given that to Burke, he'd have left his chaser spinning in the breeze. In short, McGoldrick cost us nowt as he was out of favour at Ipswich. McBurnie was a protracted either/or with Maupay and then a considerable amount of money thereafter. Can you say we have value in him, with six goals (last season) and some pretty shit finishing this season?

Norwood to me adds nothing to the midfield or his position. He's a stone and a few inches less than he should be in the regista role and connects poorly with the other nine outfield players. He was like that today. That is just his 'day job'. In attack, I'd imagine someone with such supposed gifted feet to be bending it round the wall or into the top corner at least twice a season or simply hitting it from range to make the opposition defence fear his ability or the opposition keepers work for a living. I haven't seen him hit a shot from distance since possibly his goal against Brentford two years ago. He scored once last season. That just isn't good enough, neither is the predictable crossfield ball, which he tried ... and failed with ... again today. Going forward he is easily read, closed down and dispossessed (compare Berge for that who at least holds onto the ball) and going backwards is either clumsy with the tackle, can't jockey or simply doesn't put in a challenge (see today for their goal) His contribution today was minimal (one decent pass) hence 2/10.

We are constantly being overran in midfield now (and I can go back and illustrate that with NUFC away last season, ManU, Leicester, this season we struggled with Fulham, Chelsea, Man City and christ knows who else. The pivot - the blocker - the focal point who intercepts attacks down the centre is Norwood, and he is easily passed round, fails to anticipate or is simply not good enough to read the level of play around him to be effective. Hence today, failing to intercept their advance down his central channel and his ball watching when Haller collected it and whacked it into the net past a despairing Ramsdale. Rammy's face when he got up (for once) was justifiably angry. Five players around Haller, Norwood the closest, and he gets a comfortable, directed and unchallenged strike into the top corner. I keep saying this but Fulham and Brighton - our PL rivals - couldn't see him playing in the top flight. I think Blades fans are being overly sentimental about icons from our promotion past ow where he is concerned and he is beyond criticism. We need to restructure that midfield - especially him and his left flank because it is the start of the weaknesses is our side.

pommpey
Spot on with Norwood.
 
I'll explain:

McGoldrick did a lot of fetching and carrying. He also hung onto the ball a lot more than McBurnie, who seems to have real snags when its down at his feet and he's moving through a crowd - even one - of players. McGoldrick also deigned to have a smack on goal, from scenarios he'd carved out himself. McBurnie is a simple target man, and even in that, he's no Peter Crouch, Niall Quinn or Danny Ings. He also has no pace, and given the one on one, if you'd given that to Burke, he'd have left his chaser spinning in the breeze. In short, McGoldrick cost us nowt as he was out of favour at Ipswich. McBurnie was a protracted either/or with Maupay and then a considerable amount of money thereafter. Can you say we have value in him, with six goals (last season) and some pretty shit finishing this season?

Norwood to me adds nothing to the midfield or his position. He's a stone and a few inches less than he should be in the regista role and connects poorly with the other nine outfield players. He was like that today. That is just his 'day job'. In attack, I'd imagine someone with such supposed gifted feet to be bending it round the wall or into the top corner at least twice a season or simply hitting it from range to make the opposition defence fear his ability or the opposition keepers work for a living. I haven't seen him hit a shot from distance since possibly his goal against Brentford two years ago. He scored once last season. That just isn't good enough, neither is the predictable crossfield ball, which he tried ... and failed with ... again today. Going forward he is easily read, closed down and dispossessed (compare Berge for that who at least holds onto the ball) and going backwards is either clumsy with the tackle, can't jockey or simply doesn't put in a challenge (see today for their goal) His contribution today was minimal (one decent pass) hence 2/10.

We are constantly being overran in midfield now (and I can go back and illustrate that with NUFC away last season, ManU, Leicester, this season we struggled with Fulham, Chelsea, Man City and christ knows who else. The pivot - the blocker - the focal point who intercepts attacks down the centre is Norwood, and he is easily passed round, fails to anticipate or is simply not good enough to read the level of play around him to be effective. Hence today, failing to intercept their advance down his central channel and his ball watching when Haller collected it and whacked it into the net past a despairing Ramsdale. Rammy's face when he got up (for once) was justifiably angry. Five players around Haller, Norwood the closest, and he gets a comfortable, directed and unchallenged strike into the top corner. I keep saying this but Fulham and Brighton - our PL rivals - couldn't see him playing in the top flight. I think Blades fans are being overly sentimental about icons from our promotion past ow where he is concerned and he is beyond criticism. We need to restructure that midfield - especially him and his left flank because it is the start of the weaknesses is our side.

pommpey

Why when Norwood didn't play did we look no better then?

Today we had half an hour without him in the side and did nothing.

He's not been great but to pin so much of on him is a bit daft.

I am not sure I saw McGoldrick do any of the fetching/carrying you saw. Not sure he did much of anything all game and he held it up no more than McBurnie. Thought Didzy was poor today and that even though McBurnie was crap he was the only one who looked like scoring...Granted that's a bit depressing.

I am not sure any of the midfield 3 or strikers did much of anything and a fairly ordinaeysm side dominated the ball and restricted us to one effort all 2nd half. Feel 6's/7's are way too high.

I do feel your criticism of Norwood is way over the top when all 3 of the midfield were functioning at a similiar level.. crap!
 
Why when Norwood didn't play did we look no better then?

Today we had half an hour without him in the side and did nothing.

He's not been great but to pin so much of on him is a bit daft.

I am not sure I saw McGoldrick do any of the fetching/carrying you saw. Not sure he did much of anything all game and he held it up no more than McBurnie. Thought Didzy was poor today and that even though McBurnie was crap he was the only one who looked like scoring...Granted that's a bit depressing.

I am not sure any of the midfield 3 or strikers did much of anything and a fairly ordinaeysm side dominated the ball and restricted us to one effort all 2nd half. Feel 6's/7's are way too high.

I do feel your criticism of Norwood is way over the top when all 3 of the midfield were functioning at a similiar level.. crap!
McGoldrick looks like he is running through treacle and was poor today, he seems to have lost a yard of pace. Agree with pommpey on Norwood at least the other two kept the ball a little better and got closer to actually putting in a block or a tackle, the game passed Norwood by after ten minutes.
 
Why when Norwood didn't play did we look no better then?

Today we had half an hour without him in the side and did nothing.

He's not been great but to pin so much of on him is a bit daft.

I am not sure I saw McGoldrick do any of the fetching/carrying you saw. Not sure he did much of anything all game and he held it up no more than McBurnie. Thought Didzy was poor today and that even though McBurnie was crap he was the only one who looked like scoring...Granted that's a bit depressing.

I am not sure any of the midfield 3 or strikers did much of anything and a fairly ordinaeysm side dominated the ball and restricted us to one effort all 2nd half. Feel 6's/7's are way too high.

I do feel your criticism of Norwood is way over the top when all 3 of the midfield were functioning at a similiar level.. crap!

Because Wilder is still insisting on this archaic, unsuitable (now we haven't got Jack) 5-3-2. Berge isn't much cop as CDM either. We need a 4-1-3-2, a 4-1-2-1-2 or a 4-3-1-2 system now to deal with oppositions midfields. Norwood's role and style of play is still far too 'Championship'. When he didn't play, we still didn't have a solution.

pommpey
 
There’s no logical explanation as to why Norwood was a 2/10, other than just irrational hatred of the guy. Calm and composed on the ball when he was given it, gave the ball away a couple of times as did every player on the pitch today. Once again our only midfielder who wanted the ball and had his head up looking for players. The rest, apart from Baldock, just hid.
 
Tremendous effort today. Came out of the blocks determined not to let West Ham get anywhere near the ball and broke up any attempt they had to string even three or four passes together. From back to front you can see Wilder has got inside their heads finally and we are starting to look like the PL team we always were. McBurnie's two goals were sublime finishing and Brewster's first goal showed what we have spent the money on. Three points finally in the bag now and the players faces as we left the pitch said it all that West Brom next week now have some work to do to even get a goal against us.

Is maybe what it should have looked like.

However, business as usual restored.

Don't know what it is about us and the first fifteen minutes, but West Ham, like Chelsea, like Liverpool, looked rattled and unsettled. Great long punt from Egan finds Baldock and okay, he overran it but got a shot on goal (gasp) which in honesty, should have been clipped into the opposite top corner. But we didn't stop there, we kept pressing, West Ham camped deep and absorbed it though. Then, like Chelsea ... like Liverpool and (I looked at the clock) on fifteen they gained possession and simply denied us access to the round yellow thing. And with a worrying pattern now showing, once that happens, once we turn over possession, we simply don't have the gift to cut them out and regain it. We watch them progressively passing, moving into space, creating options and moving us round the pitch. Then they'd give us the ball, safe in the knowledge that we'd be pushed into the predictable wide areas and have a 3 v 4 puzzle to work out. Sure, we got a great Basham cross in which McBurnie got to, and a nice Berge low cross which if McBurnie was anything of the forward he thinks he is would have started his move as soon as Berge looked up, not when the ball left his boot. And we hit the post, of sorts, but really, there was no real stress compared to the good saves Ramsdale pulled off and the howler they spooned.

We were though on the back foot for most of the game. Even in the second half we were chasing shadows and not really putting our foot on the game. There were some small positives, but they were ineffectual given the result. It was game we could have won but had to lose.

Ramsdale 6/10: Great improvement regarding shot stopping. Loses a point for his kicking. The aimless left-foot punt up the pitch landed straight at the feet of the opposition. Was blameless for getting anything on the shot which was a lesson on how to smack a ball to beat a keeper from just outside the box. Flecky used to do that.
Baldock 7/10: Again, a typical outing from Stroppy George. He is the picture of commitment and gets stuck in and even drifted across the pitch today (which left gaping holes behind him which WHU just filled once we'd given the ball to them)
Basham 7/10: Again, great commitment. But does anyone feel a sense of dread and disillusionment in his face and demeanour. Especially when he's fucking subbed for Lundstram
Egan 7/10: Put in some great work trying to get in the way of WHUs rare advances. Excellent block against their winger when clean through on goal
Ampadu 3/10: Looks like he fucking hates being at BDTBL. He's out of position at LCB and doesn't have the range, vision or height. Like Stevens. Like Robinson. Like anyone. Except JO'C.
Lowe 3/10: Signed from who? Oh yeah. Bottom of the Championship. How much for? Oh yeah. Shitloads. He is another player who clearly doesn't get 5-3-2 because he plays so narrow and can't draw a line up the pitch from the corner of each penalty area and simply run up and down in that region. And he can't fucking pass or cross for toffee.
Berge 6.5/10: Bit of a suppressed day for Sander. Although there were times when he did his best to keep possession and create openings, he can't do all of this on his own.
Norwood 2/10: Here we go again. Pommpey's burning Norwood to the ground again. He deserves it. No real redeeming measures today, save for one fleeting through pass. The rest was slow, ponderous. one-track and not PL football standard. Their goal came from central defence straight into his area to a WHU player who simply drifted forward (unchallenged), laid it off, an attempted shot (Norwood is stationary and spectating now) and the ball is laid square to Haller who steadies himself (Norwood less than 2m away) and unleashes the winner, straight into the top corner. I half expected Norwood to break into applause. That, my fellow Blades, is NOT PL standard. It's shit. Again, let me point to similar players in his position - Nicky Butt, N'golo Kante, Yaya Toure, Bastian Sweinsteiger, Michael Carrack ... all whom at the Premier League level tend to have that tendency to first of all protect the back four/three but secondly be incredibly difficult to get past or who move fluidly to face the advancing attack and be effectively the first player. He's none of that. He will do a Championship club a great service if we transferred him out in January and today's subbing was not before time. He can neither keep the ball nor win it, and for someone who occupies the central pivot or 'regista' role and clearly can't do it at this level, Wilder needs to rethink both home and the formation. At the moment, I'd take even Lundstram in Norwood's place, at least he can get stuck in and tackle.
Fleck 6.5/10: Nice to see him back and showing some of the flourishes we liked last season, but he is so lost without Stevens and O'Connell. Ampadu and Lowe were nowhere near hi today and that left flank once again was fragile
McGoldrick 7/10: Though he ran his socks off and did well getting the ball to the floor, holding onto the ball, harrying and even (shriek!) had a few timid shots
McBurnie 4/10: Thought he worked hard, but then again, I could work hard for an hour and a half masturbating into a handful of my own faeces and not really achieve anything but a shitty dick. I read on twitter he 'wins stacks of aerial challenges'. Great. Win them he does, but the ball rebounds off his top of his melon and to their players. I don't call that 'winning aerial challenges'. I call it 'jumping and heading the ball' and indeed, I can do that, even if it is into next door's garden. He got his famous head to one cross from our winger Chris Basham which although top corner bound, was reached and pushed round the post with an athletic jump. Pay attention Aaron Ramsdale, next time Jiminez nuts the ball to your top corner son and you flap in mid air. And then, he's put through - at last - by a splitting pass from Brewster whereby his pace just got him enough to crack the ball off the bar from eight yards. I felt a bit sorry for Mitrovic when he pinged the top of the bar for Fulham v us and even Grealish last year. But when you're one on one and your team is bottom with fuck all goals and points and you want to shut fat fucks like me up for good and bury the fucking chance, claiming your first goal for ... ohhh ... ages, in the words of Alan Hansen, 'y've got te score'. And he didn't. And we lost. The end.

Brewster 4/10: Bit more involved and the pass to McBurnie was good, but he's getting nothing and now looks ready to give football up for good, having been offloaded for an obscene amount to an all but relegated side.
Lundstram 3/10: Why, Wilder? Why?
Robinson 4/10: Forced upon us, but if anything, a slight upgrade on a clearly pissed off Ampadu

Wilder 3/10: Chris, mate. Time is running out. Change the formation and the tactics. The wings are now out of bounds and play through the centre on the deck is the way. Just a tip, from a Playstation Manager. We know what the problem is - the giant hole Jack O'Connell has left and your struggle to fill it with three or four players. But remember that struggle with Coutts? Remember how you signed everyone from Holmes to L Evans to Lundstram to make shit fit, well, with Jack, nothing will fill his voluminous boots. Not Robinson, not Stevens and definitely not Ampadu. So maybe a change in tactics and formation could solve this. You won't get another £20m from HRH, not after having all the cash chucked at you recently. And £20m will only get you another Ampadu, or Robinson too. And stop picking Lundstram, eh? He's today's Nick Montgomery, only worse. Change that midfield so we can play it like the opposition and keep the ball (we did this for eight minutes early in the second half, then it ended up us defending in desperation) and we can find either McBurnie's head (although fuck knows why) or a clever ball through to a running Brewster or Mousett.

Opposition: Bowen, Rice, Cresswell - all good.

pommpey
You forgot Ogbonna. He was outstanding in central defense today.
Bowen has made the difference to this Hammers team in my opinion.
Like Ollie Watkins, Eze, Maupay and a couple of others, we knew all about them but couldn’t afford them.
 

There’s no logical explanation as to why Norwood was a 2/10, other than just irrational hatred of the guy. Calm and composed on the ball when he was given it, gave the ball away a couple of times as did every player on the pitch today. Once again our only midfielder who wanted the ball and had his head up looking for players. The rest, apart from Baldock, just hid.
It's not irrational hatred. What an odd thing to accuse me of. I don't know Norwood outside of what I see on the football pitch. Why would I 'hate' the guy? Are you saying that in your opinion, anyone who underperforms and doesn't make your marks is a figure for your 'hatred'? I simply maintain he is woefully undeskilled and underpowered for this level. You say 'calm and composed' on the ball, yet most of his distribution ends up with us defending. He wastes so much and cannot defend. He is a central pivot of a midfield which is clearly crap.

pommpey
 
It's not irrational hatred. What an odd thing to accuse me of. I don't know Norwood outside of what I see on the football pitch. Why would I 'hate' the guy? Are you saying that in your opinion, anyone who underperforms and doesn't make your marks is a figure for your 'hatred'? I simply maintain he is woefully undeskilled and underpowered for this level. You say 'calm and composed' on the ball, yet most of his distribution ends up with us defending. He wastes so much and cannot defend. He is a central pivot of a midfield which is clearly crap.

pommpey
My comment wasnt based off of this one report of yours. Every time he plays you slate him to the ends of the earth. Then again so do a few others. The whole team yet again was under par and could barely string a few passes together, but Norwood did his job in possession pretty okay-ish. I just can’t understand your rating based on the actual game. Based on all of your reports it seems that you nitpick Norwood’s performances praying for him to misplace/over hit a pass yet overlook when others do it. Like I said you aren’t alone. He’s become THE scapegoat.
 
My comment wasnt based off of this one report of yours. Every time he plays you slate him to the ends of the earth. Then again so do a few others. The whole team yet again was under par and could barely string a few passes together, but Norwood did his job in possession pretty okay-ish. I just can’t understand your rating based on the actual game. Based on all of your reports it seems that you nitpick Norwood’s performances praying for him to misplace/over hit a pass yet overlook when others do it. Like I said you aren’t alone. He’s become THE scapegoat.

Absolutely not. Norwood has had 'some' passable games. But he is a weakness in the central spine and simply cannot compete. Today, he was subbed.

I want Norwood to get stuck in, carry the ball forward, stop playing Hollywood passes and use his supposed ability to make a difference. Thankfully today, he didn't take any corners, else his mark would have been lower.

pommpey
 
A few generous marks there IMHO. Agree with you on Norwood, the opposition close him down and he is not mobile /strong enough to make space for himself.
His "tackling" is woeful.
McGoldrick 7?! He was abysmal. Slow, poor decision making and zero threat.
McBurnie? A 6.5, yes he didn't score again but he was the only player who posed any kind of threat.
Lundstram. I just wish he'd fuck off now and I think CW has got this all wrong and it can't be doing team moral any good.
Brewster? 4 Nice ball for McBurnie but he looks like he doesn't want to be here.
I'll still back Wilder, he deserves it but fucking hell HAVE A GO, we should have finished that game with Burke upfront as a third striker not passing the ball around the back 3.
UTB!
 
Absolutely not. Norwood has had 'some' passable games. But he is a weakness in the central spine and simply cannot compete. Today, he was subbed.

I want Norwood to get stuck in, carry the ball forward, stop playing Hollywood passes and use his supposed ability to make a difference. Thankfully today, he didn't take any corners, else his mark would have been lower.

pommpey
So you’re wanting Norwood to do the job of the entire midfield basically. What about Fleck and Berge today? Total passengers, neshing tackles and tossed away possession for fun. Norwood can only do so much. He did the simple things fine mostly today. Not perfect by an absolute long shot but this scapegoating is bizarre. Wilder subbed him to get another striker on, so it wasn’t a like-for-like and doesn’t support your scapegoating.
 
Absolutely spot on with Norwood. To play his role in the premier league you need speed, strength and agility and he's lacking in all 3. Compare him to Phillips at Leeds or Rice at West Ham and you will see what a defensive midfielder looks like at the top level. Before I get accused of unfair comparisons they play for 2 mid table sides and they were just off the top of my head, there's loads more examples but they play for the top teams so an unfair comparison.

Theres a reason Fulham and Brighton binned him when they went up, passing sideways and the occasional ping does not make up for what he is lacking.

Controversial but I think Flecky could play that role well as he's strong, aggressive and can move the ball forward. However it would mean finding another left sided player.
 
I agree with everything you say about yesterday's'performance' although I think you've been generous with some of your player ratings! 🤔




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