Mr McCabe

[beightonblade]

Please sell the Blades soon.

 

[rotweissler]

why don't you help him out and slip him a slack £35m of your money or just get one of your buddies to do it?

or you could find someone else for KMcC to sell to - I'm sure he'd thank you

 

[Micalijo]

Mr McCabe - you are a total and utter disgrace. Get stuffed. Lucky property man, luck runs out with the economy, knows sod all about football and is presiding over the ruination of our beloved club.

 

[Stafford Blade]

Mr McCabe - you are a total and utter disgrace. Get stuffed. Lucky property man, luck runs out with the economy, knows sod all about football and is presiding over the ruination of our beloved club.

mccabe knows sod all about football - just like you

 

[Worksop II]

£35m of your money

Often wondered how much McCabe would take for the Blades, I reckon £70 Million would be the Price

 

[sothall blade]

mccabe knows sod all about football - just like you

now now boys

 

[lenners]

why don't you help him out and slip him a slack £35m of your money or just get one of your buddies to do it?

or you could find someone else for KMcC to sell to - I'm sure he'd thank you

£35m? Don't think so. Maybe between £7m and £10m tops.
When it comes to selling, we're in the same boat as SWFC only a different lender who isn't going to get his money back and knows he'll have to spend more to keep the business going.

 

[BladeFisher]

Mr McCabe - you are a total and utter disgrace. Get stuffed. Lucky property man, luck runs out with the economy, knows sod all about football and is presiding over the ruination of our beloved club.

To be fair I think he bought into the club with genuine intentions but I think his personnel decisions are clueless.

 

[Micalijo]

To be fair I think he bought into the club with genuine intentions but I think his personnel decisions are clueless.

Agree Fish, no doubt he did it all right at forst but then got some bizarre notion that turning the football club into a highly geared property, international outfit was a good idea - at a time when he himself admitted property was over heated value wise.

 

[BladeFisher]

Agree Fish, no doubt he did it all right at forst but then got some bizarre notion that turning the football club into a highly geared property, international outfit was a good idea - at a time when he himself admitted property was over heated value wise.

Trouble is Mic dunno who would buy us.

As the majority on here state, the main issue at the moment is to stay up. I think it needs a separate thread on "how to progress the club". At the moment if we go down it will be a helluva job to get back.

What gets me is which other clubs have only the fourth division championship to claim for its sole winning feat in 50 years. For a "big club" (ha ha) that is truly and absolutely pathetic. What I can't figure out is, is this some kind of SUFC culture problem? We seem as a club to be totally incapable of winning FA.

McCabe seems to be going the same way as Hassall and the guy who was the Man City fan. At least Brearley owned a club that won something!

 

[lenners]

It's definitely at least partly a culture problem.
A defeatist culture infects a significant portion of our fan base which is evidenced by the suck-ups we have, for example, on this site.
It's also a bit of a Sheffield thing as well though.
A city and two football clubs which punch well below their weight.

 

[Tuns]

What gets me is which other clubs have only the fourth division championship to claim for its sole winning feat in 50 years.

As far as I know there is no other club with our attendances which has not won anything/been to a final for so long. Yet we don't even seem to get the 'long suffering' fans tag afforded to many big clubs who achieved much more than us.

Maybe it's because some of our fans are so ready to accept our failures over the decades.

 

[j j]

Division 4 champions is the lowest league position in SUFC's history, not its greatest achievement.

 

[alcoblade]

It's definitely at least partly a culture problem.
A defeatist culture infects a significant portion of our fan base which is evidenced by the suck-ups we have, for example, on this site.
It's also a bit of a Sheffield thing as well though.
A city and two football clubs which punch well below their weight.

There aren't many suck ups on this site Len. There's lots of people who're bored with you derailing every thread with the same monotonous crap. Same after same after same. Very few have been as critical as me about the club over the last year or so. But you, son, are tiresome beyond belief. Until recently I would have defended you because you added something different. Now you're just boring and you're spoiling the place.

Do us all a favour and fuck off.

UTB

 

[lenners]

There aren't many suck ups on this site Len. There's lots of people who're bored with you derailing every thread with the same monotonous crap. Same after same after same. Very few have been as critical as me about the club over the last year or so. But you, son, are tiresome beyond belief. Until recently I would have defended you because you added something different. Now you're just boring and you're spoiling the place.

Do us all a favour and fuck off.

UTB

Truth hurts Alco and abuse is actually beneath you, son.
The thing is, the same thing keeps happening to SUFC and you get annoyed when someone suggests some of the reasons why.
If you don't learn your lessons from history, you, as a reasonably intelligent chap, know what the outcome is likely to be.
Perhaps your annoyance is pointed in the wrong direction.

 

[alcoblade]

My annoyance came feom, amongst other places, another thread that started along the lines of "what should Adams' priorities be" that you immediately turned into another round of "it doens't matter, we're sh1t Vol 1,000,000". You then refer to anyone who doesn't want to entertain post after post of negtivity as "suck up's".

Everyone nows we're rubbish. Everyone knows we've been mis managed. Everyone knows the board have made poor decisions. Some got on the bus later than others, but we're all on it now.

Give the forum some space to debate things, other than your own incredibly tiresome agenda.

UTB

 

[mall]

Give the forum some space to debate things, other than your own incredibly tiresome agenda.

UTB

We are facing our biggest crisis for some years.
What else can occupy our minds other than the present situation.
You never know, someone just might say something which will help.
The thing is that some people on here are just too damn comfortable with this situation and spout rubbish like "onwards and upwards" as if it's a magical quote. I doubt Adams is very comfortable this morning.

 

[Sean the Blade]

Perhaps a bit of a faux pas:

What gets me is which other clubs have only the fourth division championship to claim for its sole winning feat in 50 years. For a "big club" (ha ha) that is truly and absolutely pathetic. What I can't figure out is, is this some kind of SUFC culture problem? We seem as a club to be totally incapable of winning FA.

and then finishes with...

At least Brearley owned a club that won something!

We either won something or we didn't????? Apologies for picking on you BladeFisher, it just really jumped out at me, although I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly!

I think anything our club has achieved has been despite the board rather than with their support.

In fairness to McCabe though, at least he is (or appears to be) trying to find the club a suitable replacement. I think we as fans should be careful with our vitriol. Look what happened when fans pressure contributed to the hastened departure of Brearley, we ended up with a srting of crooks, scheisters (did I spell that right?), con artists and swindlers in charge.

I don't want to go through that again

 

[Rustyblade]

You did ask . It's shyster.

 

[lenners]

My annoyance came feom, amongst other places, another thread that started along the lines of "what should Adams' priorities be" that you immediately turned into another round of "it doens't matter, we're sh1t Vol 1,000,000". You then refer to anyone who doesn't want to entertain post after post of negtivity as "suck up's".

Everyone nows we're rubbish. Everyone knows we've been mis managed. Everyone knows the board have made poor decisions. Some got on the bus later than others, but we're all on it now.

Give the forum some space to debate things, other than your own incredibly tiresome agenda.

UTB

Perhaps you should have noticed it was BladeFisher who was considering the historical context and this thread was about the chairman.
If you want to believe our current predicament should be focussed on Nyron Nosworthy I'm sure there are threads for you to indulge in.

 

[Bladesman]

To be fair I think he bought into the club with genuine intentions but I think his personnel decisions are clueless.

Id agree with that.

It is a little worrying that really he has been trying to offload the club for a while now and nothing seems to have happend. Even more annoying that the oinkers can even scrape together a last minute takeover.

 

[beightonblade]

Well my info tells me Mr McCabe has had the club on the market for years, touting us all over the world...even engaging sum fancy firm to find new investors/owners.

He must be wanting too much !

 

[bartman]

your info is wrong,BB...the club has not been 'on the market for years'..

 

[beightonblade]

your info is wrong,BB...the club has not been 'on the market for years'..

If not why not ?

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Mr McCabe

Thanks for bringing Micky Adams in, you've got me back at The Lane.

Happy New Year.

 

[Sean the Blade]

You did ask . It's shyster.

Thanks for that Rustyblade, I'm afraid my Hebrew is a little... well... rusty!

 

[Nick Jansky]

Well my info tells me Mr McCabe has had the club on the market for years, touting us all over the world...even engaging sum fancy firm to find new investors/owners.

He must be wanting too much !

Hey, maybe we could get new overseas owners who load the club with external debt, and then just walk away when they lose interest!

 

[lenners]

Hey, maybe we could get new overseas owners who load the club with external debt, and then just walk away when they lose interest!

Mr J, what's your thoughts on how McCabe is approaching his financial dilemma with United?
I can't see how he's going to avoid putting more and more in over quite a few years just to keep the club/his asset afloat.
Is there not an argument for speculating to get out of this division the right way and making it much easier to recoup/sell?
Looking at some of the teams at the top of our league, it seems pretty unbusinesslike on our part to see clubs like Swansea, Norwich, Leeds etc so far ahead with one of them, at least, likely to dip their paws in the honeypot next year.

 

[beightonblade]

What puzzles me is if McCabe wants to attract new owners/investors why is he making it more difficult ?

Whats his game ? .......... this JTW will be very interesting,not same owd anyway we've fook all to sell

 

[Nick Jansky]

Mr J, what's your thoughts on how McCabe is approaching his financial dilemma with United?
I can't see how he's going to avoid putting more and more in over quite a few years just to keep the club/his asset afloat.
Is there not an argument for speculating to get out of this division the right way and making it much easier to recoup/sell?
Looking at some of the teams at the top of our league, it seems pretty unbusinesslike on our part to see clubs like Swansea, Norwich, Leeds etc so far ahead with one of them, at least, likely to dip their paws in the honeypot next year.

Well, he did speculate to get out of the division the right way, and it backfired, mainly because of the stupid appointment of Robson. Having said that, I think he panicked a little too early, hence the sale of Beattie and much of what followed.

Yes, I'm with you on struggling to see how he can avoid putting more cash in just to stay afloat, unless investment comes in, but we can hardly bank on that, and it certainly doesn't seem to be anywhere on the horizon. However, for all his appearancees on Rich Lists etc, I do wonder how much of his personal assets are liquid? Given what has happened over the last couple of years in terms of both the property bubble popping and the banks' reluctance to lend, I wonder whether he has the wherewithal to pump much more in? I would imagine that much of his wealth isn't very liquid at all.

I also agree that he has royally stuffed up as far as United is concerned. However, he has admitted to mistakes, which he should be given some credit for. I think he has taken the right steps recently to try & make the business look much more like a football club, and to seek to reduce, if not eliminate, external debt. I will also applaud him if he goes ahead with the proposed shares for debt thing. However, I think he is taking a big gamble on hoping to remain in the Championship whilst this is going on - we are all aware of the state of the squad.

So yes, I would like to see some more cash go in, but wonder if he still has the ability to do so? I have no idea, but his wealth is built on property..........

In some respects it is not dissimilar to the end of the Brealey era when he became, in his own words as far as I remember them, "no longer a man of financial substance".