Montgomery

[mightyblade88]

Isn't it time Warnock realised that Montgomery is simply not good enough. He was awful last night (against Villa) and does not deserve to be in the first 11 let alone on the bench. When the likes of Ifill, Akinbiyi, Unsworth etc had bad games they were dropped and have not featured since. Unfortunately I don't see the same happening with him

 

[RaWW]

At the moment we have no-one else to play there.

But yes, we need to improve on that position.

 

[jodman]

I feel for the lad but there is no place for sentiment, his ability with the ball is sub-par for the championship so it is a real worry that he continues to play for us in the prem.

I like his commitment and his workrate but we seriously need to address the centre of the park in January.

I still thank the lad for all he has done for the blades so far and hope he finds a club to suit his level and ultimately face less flack for his mistakes.

 

[S64 Blade]

I agree, Monty isn't up to it at all.

 

[Linz]

Looking at the bench tonight, you could see why he was started though.

Armstrong and Davis who may or may not be full fit found themselves as substitutes.

I think there are games where we can use Monty (where we have to man-mark particularly) but him and Jags in the centre of midfield does not really work at all.

We need someone with McCall's leadership, Charlie Hartfield's right fist, Monty's battling spirit, Don Hutchinson's height, Jagielka's athleticism, Michael Brown's creativity, Dane Whitehouse's passion, Peter Ndlovu's pace and he needs to be able to defend a bit as well

So we don't want much then!

 

[silverfox]

We need someone with McCall's leadership, Charlie Hartfield's right fist, Monty's battling spirit, Don Hutchinson's height, Jagielka's athleticism, Michael Brown's creativity, Dane Whitehouse's passion, Peter Ndlovu's pace and he needs to be able to defend a bit as well

So we don't want much then!

That's ME!

 

[jodman]

Looking at the bench tonight, you could see why he was started though.

Armstrong and Davis who may or may not be full fit found themselves as substitutes.

I think there are games where we can use Monty (where we have to man-mark particularly) but him and Jags in the centre of midfield does not really work at all.

We need someone with McCall's leadership, Charlie Hartfield's right fist, Monty's battling spirit, Don Hutchinson's height, Jagielka's athleticism, Michael Brown's creativity, Dane Whitehouse's passion, Peter Ndlovu's pace and he needs to be able to defend a bit as well

So we don't want much then!

The lack of number dictate that Monty will get some football this season. Even if/when we strengthen in January there will still be games the suit Monty – such as Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool away where we will spend a great deal of time chasing the ball.

I have a soft spot for him simply because of the effort he puts in, but technically the lad is sadly lacking and I don’t think we can accept the array of stray passes in games like the one yesterday.

I keep saying that if we could make a hybrid of Monty, Tonge and Jags we would have quite a player indeed (unless he got tonges pace, Jags dribbling and Montys passing).

 

[Sharpy]

I feel sorry for the lad in all honesty.

Its not fair putting in a player who quite clearly isnt good enough at this level, warnocks obsession with Monty should have ended 3 years ago. Warnock is to blame for Montys lack of obvious confidence, surley he can see he Monty isnt good enough?

 

[The One]

i agree that montgomery isn't upto the standards of the premiership game but last night he was the one who got into positions that the other players should have. He's not in the sqaud for his footballing skill. He's there for his tenacity and tackling (sometimes he's not around even for that..lol)

 

[jodman]

i agree that montgomery isn't upto the standards of the premiership game but last night he was the one who got into positions that the other players should have. He's not in the sqaud for his footballing skill. He's there for his tenacity and tackling (sometimes he's not around even for that..lol)

I mentioned this at the game yesterday, Monty gets into some great positions and it is almost to his detriment because more often then not he doesn’t have the ability to take advantage. Then the fans get on his back, it would be amore advisable for him to win the ball and then pass it to his nearest team mate who should under no circumstances pass it back to him!

 

[Come from away]

Monty does a lot of great work defensively, but given the quality of his passing I think we would be better off with a pair of young legs who could do most of the work but do something with the ball. Based on his last performance I do not see how he can keep Law out of the team.

 

[Tinoblade]

We need a quality center midfielder

Even with tonge in there dont think it is good enough!

When is legietwood back>

 

[Sharpy]

i agree that montgomery isn't upto the standards of the premiership game but last night he was the one who got into positions that the other players should have. He's not in the sqaud for his footballing skill. He's there for his tenacity and tackling (sometimes he's not around even for that..lol)

Were in the Premiership, not sunday league. Being able to run around alot isnt good enough anymore.

Tonge and leggy cant come back quick enough for me.

 

[The One]

Were in the Premiership, not sunday league. Being able to run around alot isnt good enough anymore.

Tonge and leggy cant come back quick enough for me.

i agree but tonge hasn't got into the positions that monty got in often enough. I personally think tonge should drift out to the wing and run at defenders every so often.

 

[Sharpy]

Thats because we were playing a negative 4-5-1 when Tonge was in the side, now we are back at 4-4-2. Im confident he will come back at his best.

 

[Foxy]

Thats because we were playing a negative 4-5-1 when Tonge was in the side, now we are back at 4-4-2. Im confident he will come back at his best.

Does the formation render him incapable of taking on a player?, he's not been doing it for far longer than we've played 4-5-1. Don't know whats caused it (maybe confidence?) but he's been reluctant to take people on for a long time.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Personally the jury is still out on Tonge. He has shown that he has the potential and ability but doesn't do it consistently or often enough. Not shown much at all this season, can argue tat he's stifled by the system or that he is playing to orders, but he has still been generally average and no more than that.

Montgomery on the other hand puts in lots and lots of effort, is reasonably sound at his defensive duties without the ball, but is obviously in way above his capabilities at this level. His lack of pace and passing qualtities are finding himself out constantly

 

[jodman]

I think that Tonge plays better when the weight of expectation is lifted from his shoulders, i think that with the progress made by Gillespie and Quinn will see them help carry the burden.

I am confident Tonge can re-capture the form that made him one of the top young players in the country as the season progresses.

 

[TonyAgana]

qualtities

Our lass has qual titties

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

What or who the hell is a qual?? Exclusive to females or can men have thngs that are qual??

 

[shorehamview]

What or who the hell is a qual?? Exclusive to females or can men have thngs that are qual??

Ask your missus if your nads are qual. It must be a youngster's expression, along with text-speak/txtspk and wearing hoods indoors.

 

[Sharpy]

Does the formation render him incapable of taking on a player?, he's not been doing it for far longer than we've played 4-5-1. Don't know whats caused it (maybe confidence?) but he's been reluctant to take people on for a long time.

No it doesnt and his attacking play is something he needs to improve. Saying that i think some people have got it wrong when saying he needs to play in the middle like he does out wide. That just isnt sensible in the premiership. I think at the start of the season he was being told to come deep for the ball and be the playmaker, that needs to change.

Hopefully he will come in and replace Monty on saturday.

 

[silverfox]

I think at the start of the season he was being told to come deep for the ball and be the playmaker, that needs to change.

Hopefully he will come in and replace Monty on saturday.

I think he did play deep with the idea of using pace into gaps in the opposition defence with either Kabbs or Webber. They played that pre-season but it's never worked in the Premier.

I'd like to see Tonge used in the roll Alan Quinn played his last few matches pushing up right behind Hulse.

It's one that may work for him but needs good holding in midfield and would either need Leggy or Monty in that role in my opinion.

 

[Warnock=God]

We are probably one of the best ball winners in the division and we need to be one of the best if we are to stay up. Monty is one of the reasons for this. He may not be the most technically gifted player to grace the Premiership but he sure can win posession back for us. Maybe him with an attacking minded central midfielder (Tonge or Quinny) might benefit us to make more chances and have more posession in games.

 

[Sharpy]

I dont recall monty winning the ball back for us this season, its usually him breaking up OUR play.

 

[The One]

I dont recall monty winning the ball back for us this season, its usually him breaking up OUR play.

When tonge was playing im sure it was him who was breaking up our play more than anyone else.

 

[Sharpy]

Im also pretty sure i recall the whole side relying on Tonge to pass the ball along, he gave it away too much but Monty is on a different planet.

 

[The One]

Im also pretty sure i recall the whole side relying on Tonge to pass the ball along, he gave it away too much but Monty is on a different planet.

im pretty sure we have played better without tonge in the squad. Hopefully we will continue to play 4-4-2 when tonge comes back into the squad as it might improve his game and let him loose a bit more.

 

[TonyAgana]

im pretty sure we have played better without tonge in the squad.

Not really fair on Tonge. The whole squad were still finding their feet in the Premiership the last time he played.

 

[Sensiblade]

Not really fair on Tonge. The whole squad were still finding their feet in the Premiership the last time he played.

It might not be fair but it is true.
He has been carrying an injury which explains some of his play but he didn't seem to have anywhere near as much confidence as he could be expected to have since we had just got promoted.