MINI DERBY .

[BushBlade]

Good job he didn't score like that last week or he'd be at Everton now.

 

[wizadry]

I know you might be nervous Ben but cheer the fuck up mate.

 

[8lade]

Superb build up to our goal, no stupid efforts and just waited for the right time

 

[larkymasher]

The goal happened after Hussey threw in, it came back and fell to the wednesday midfielder, who was not closed down (Whiteman lost some balance and withdrew).

At this point, when the man on the ball is not close down, our back four, or what's left of it, i.e. Cummings and Charlesworth have to drop deep to prevent room in behind them.

Cummings in particular has a lapse of concentration and takes a step forward, instead of dropping deep, and this creates the space in behind which they exploit.

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Cummings has really good attributes, but he must be reminded how to position himself in situations like this.

Thanks Bergen..... The moment the ball is played kind of tells the story.

Semple has gone with the centre forward which is correct but Cummings should be dropping back but is clearly pushing up instead. I guess Charlesworth should be doing the same.
I have to say that for three 17 year olds playing in a back four at this level the odd mistake will happen. This is why its a development game.

There is defo something good in Semple, Cummings and Charlesworth over the next 12 to 18 months.

 

[Blade for Sale]

There is defo something good in Semple, Cummings and Charlesworth over the next 12 to 18 months.

Yup, probably £350k and a non-existent pre-season friendly

 

[Bergen Blade]

Thanks Bergen..... The moment the ball is played kind of tells the story.

Semple has gone with the centre forward which is correct but Cummings should be dropping back but is clearly pushing up instead. I guess Charlesworth should be doing the same.
I have to say that for three 17 year olds playing in a back four at this level the odd mistake will happen. This is why its a development game.

There is defo something good in Semple, Cummings and Charlesworth over the next 12 to 18 months.

It's a good situation to learn from (man on the ball not closed down - drop deep. Man on the ball well closed down, stay high). The changes between those can happen very quickly and defenders are required to be alert and concentrated at all times, or else they will be punished by good teams. Jake Wright seems a good player to learn from. The Oxford fan who said he looked like a "man possessed" at times describes him well, so focused!

 

[larkymasher]

Yup, probably £350k and a non-existent pre-season friendly

That said, you can't blame the manager for not playing them..... how can he risk a couple of 17 year olds when he knows he is out the door if promotion is missed. Still think the Checkatrade thingy is a chance to get them involved.

 

[Grappler]

That said, you can't blame the manager for not playing them..... how can he risk a couple of 17 year olds when he knows he is out the door if promotion is missed. Still think the Checkatrade thingy is a chance to get them involved.

Agreed, get them some game time, we have some god lads in the set up, Brooks and Whiteman always impress me when I see them play and young Jake Wright is a fairly tough young striker who tackled hard when I saw him a few weeks ago against Hallam FC.

 

[BushBlade]

That said, you can't blame the manager for not playing them..... how can he risk a couple of 17 year olds when he knows he is out the door if promotion is missed. Still think the Checkatrade thingy is a chance to get them involved.

Yes. I can see why he wanted to play close to a full first team against Leicester as we needed to gel and their u-23's were decent but against the other two sides I'd like to see a couple of the kids given a proper chance.

 

[larkymasher]

Eve

Yes. I can see why he wanted to play close to a full first team against Leicester as we needed to gel and their u-23's were decent but against the other two sides I'd like to see a couple of the kids given a proper chance.

Even on the bench to give them that first team build up, maybe 20 mins if all going well.

What it also does is give a couple of young players a first team match on their CV to get them out to a decent standard on loan...

 

[Darthblade]

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/245032-under-23s-at-the-lane-tonight/&page=1

Wednesday fans view

I'm pleased to say that my (low) opinion of the deluded scum hasn't changed .......

Bunch of low-life, truffle hunting, curly tailed, delusional scum

UTB & FTP

 

[Deadbat]

Is Graham Kelly injured?

 

[Bergen Blade]

Is Graham Kelly injured?

He's on loan at Stalybridge.

 

[larkymasher]

Quick report from tonight:

Finished 1-1 but we really should have won 4 or 5-1.

We played 4 at the back with Jake Wright Jr up front on his own with Chapman and Brooks wide of a 3 behind with Reed in the middle as a kind of number 10 and then Whiteman and Fleck behind.

First half was a non event. They had one chance just wide from the lad Rodney who had actually nearly got in the first minute. After this we had a few half chances but nothing that clear and most straight at the keeper.

Second half became more open and their were chances at both ends but we had most of them. We dithered a few times in the final third or played bad final ball (same as Sunday) and at times the play was sloppy (from both sides). However Brooks really impressed and Whiteman had a strong second half. Even Reed did better after being poor.

It seemed inevitable we may get one but they broke and scored. It was a brilliant ball from their lad played with outside of the foot that dissected the defence and Buckley beat the offside trap too get in. Long saved his one on one but it looped up and Buckley headed over him and in. After this we chipped away but looked a bit punchless up top. Then a decent move saw 4 or 5 involved and the ball was switched across and Whiteman hammered it from maybe 18-20 yards right into the top corner via the underside of the bar. It was a great strike.

After this it was all us really. They had one break and nearly got in but it was just whether United could nick the winner. Their keeper; Cameron Dawson; had a blinder and made 3 or 4 brilliant saves, two from point blank headers from Semple on a corner and sub Kimarni Smith; from a great cross from Hussey. Fleck forced a save from him and even at the end he made another good save down low.

United were not great but had a much stronger side on paper with more experience. Weds played 3 over 23's in Loovens (very rusty and nearly gave us a goal at the end), Sasso (centre backs) and also Buckley but none of others have had any first team experience (never heard of many of them).

United

Long 7/10 - His handling was fine tonight. Caught most things. Still a bit stop start a few times but no problems. Saved well on the goal and nobody got back to help with rebound

Cummings 6/10 - Did ok. He is a rangy, Viv Anderson style in how he looks, right back. He got up and down and was commited. Ended up at centre back. Very raw and gambles too much but got the physique and pace.

Hussey 6.5/10 - He played alright tonight. Hared up and down but often players did not find him. Mixed bag with crossing/corners. Hit first man too much but put a few beauties over too. He needs to be able to trust his right foot occasionally.

Ebanks Landell 6/10 - Really big unit. He attacks the ball well but is not great on the ball - seems very clumsy. He is certainly no nonsense and will get booked a lot. As others have said does not get much distance on his clearances.

Semple 6.5/10 - Seen him be lauded by a few academy watchers on here. Seen him a few times now. He is very slow I have to say. Looks Maguire-esque in terms of physique but he attacks the ball well. Got beat easily first minute and they lad Rodney nearly scored for them. Had a few other dodgy moments and got caught square on the goal too. He is not bad on the ball and will come out of defence and have a shot/play the long pass. Nearly scored too. Seems a long way off first team ready on that show and as a say lack of mobility worries me but there is some qualities and is only 17 and says something to be captain.

Fleck 6/10 - Quiet game. A few tackles and runs but overall not involved enough. Did have one shot near the end. Got booked for a poor foul.

Whiteman 7/10 - Thought first half he was not in the game at all and forgot he was playing. Got better second half and made a few tackles and got on the ball more. Scored a great goal. Still needs to do
more for me.

Reed 6/10 - As above. Very poor first half and even second half too many aimless balls or loose touches but a few moments of real quality like the smashed cross with the outside of his foot and one or two other decent balls. Sadly I think he is going backwards and he urgently needs a loan spell. Not sure at League Two a club would want him though on recent reserve/first team games I have seen.

Wright 5.5/10 - Not in the game much really. Chased around a lot but seemed to get a whack and then came off. Another that not sure has pushed on from those goal laden spells at Hallam etc a few years ago. A big season for like of him, Reed and Whiteman if they want to prove they have a future at SUFC. Not sure any are making a firm claim to even be on the bench at the moment.

Chapman 5/10 - Really disappointing. Seems to shy away from physical contact. He does not seem very quick and lacks a trick to beat a man. He drifted about but seemed to go to ground a lot. He picked up a knock and he went off second half.

Brooks 8/10 - Our best player by a long way. Some quality pieces of skill. One where he pulled it down a la Zidane see attached clip had the crowd in raptures. After this he showed some lovely touches. Seems to like playing the ball with the outside of his foot but seems two footed. One run second half where he drifted past 3 men and nearly got in again brightened up a drab game. He had a few other moments of class. Very frail and needs to add some muscle but he is maybe 5'10'' ish so not that small. He has a lot of ability and I think has a chance. Certainly he would be closer to first team than Reed or Whiteman on what I have seen.

Subs:

Hall 5/10 - Very odd shaped lad! He is very rotund shall we say...not fat but just quite well built but lacks pace and seems to run funny! He got in some great positions but he took poor decisions on every one apart from part in the goal. Had 2 great chances to win it but dithered after Loovens initial mistake and then crossed instead of shooting. Not sure on him at all. Looked a bit out of his depth.

Charlesworth - Played right back and did ok. Smallish lad but seemed ok on the ball/positionally.

Smith - Tall quick lad who can shift but another quite frail. Mixed bag with some poor touches and decisions but then nearly got in twice and one header he had could have won it - headed it down but good save.

Saw Foriesteri, Nuhuu and a few other Weds lads watching. Also McNulty was there. Sat on his own. Alan Knill was sat not watching and also saw Jack Lester, David Hirst amongst a few others.

Whilst I admire the match comments I think I will try to ignore the player scores.

 

[Bladebabe]

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He's on loan at Stalybridge.

He's on loan at Stalybridge.

He's on loan at Stalybridge.

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Seems to be doing well.