Match Thread Millwall v The Mighty Blades

[Sean Thornton]

The absolute state of some of the comments during the game in this thread. I thought I’d seen it all with the soiled underwear comments of some pre-game over the fact Ryan Leonard was playing.

Fantastic three points again, great resilience from the team, and while we still need to improve we continue to impress.

Maybe the idiot who agreed to let him play knew more than some on here.

Unlikely I know.......

 

[The Bladesman]

Not just 3 points but another massive psychological boost to the players.

Again we’re in total control cruising to a relatively easy win.....
...then we throw all the good work away in 5 minutes.......
......however this team doesn’t panic, they keep playing their game confident it will work out.

2 late winners in 2 weeks, both well deserved from 2 good performances will give us great mental strength and belief.

You can say that again. Dont care what anyone says on here. Been dreading this game all week. Regardless of league position and recent form difference of both teams, honestly thought we'd be struggling in this one (as its Millwall). We can smash teams like Villa but in the past have found it difficult to break down teams like these. This is a BIG "W" for us and can imagine CW emphasising it to the lads on the way back home. We move on (same again lads, just could do wi a clean sheet next time).

 

[Revolution]

Maybe the idiot who agreed to let him play knew more than some on here.

Unlikely I know.......

So it was part of the plan to allow someone who we could have stopped playing to provide an assist that put us 2-1 down, was it?

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Spineless off the pitch, spineless on it - especially at The Den, it seems.

Post of the season so far

 

[bromtom]

So it was part of the plan to allow someone who we could have stopped playing to provide an assist that put us 2-1 down, was it?

Anyone could have put that ball in, if Leonard wasn't playing, someone else would have, if the defence fucks it the defence fucks it.

United's plan was, and always should be, concentrate on United. We played our game, focused on our players, and got the result.

 

[Topplayersleave]

Not remotely true. Look at the league table, West Brom, Brizzle, Derby, Brentford, Norwich, Wigan have all conceded a similar amount of goals to us. It's just a very competitive league where most teams have enough quality to score and turn a game.

You might be better going to watch Boro, they don't concede many goals. Good luck staying awake though.

They might concede goals to teams that play well, and sometimes an occasional freak goal or brilliant goal might be conceded.
But we concede goals to teams that aren't playing well that just happen to have a 5 minute spell against us.

Even dead, buried, cremated, interred and gone to hell Aston Villa managed to score against us once they'd established a two minute spell.
We won't always turn games around again with a last minute winner and our best chance of ensuring that we don't concede is to not let the other team get back into games, even for a second.
It's easy for some teams to relax in games when they're doing well and winning, but we aren't one of those teams, we have to be on top from minute 1 to minute 96 because everything ends up in our net even if we drop from 100% down to 90%

 

[Sean Thornton]

So it was part of the plan to allow someone who we could have stopped playing to provide an assist that put us 2-1 down, was it?

A rather mardy and childlike answer from someone who didn't agree on what we did, trying to prove themselves right when they aren't.


That's what he's paid to do though isn't it? Whether he's on a loan or not. Presumably Wilder wasn't worried , and obviously Millwall had no other players on the park who could do that?

Reading some of the comments earlier in the week it was doom and gloom because of him. As I said, Wilder tends to know better and a win at Millwall today suggests that on this point he got it right unlike some running around like chickenlicken shouting "the sky is falling in, like I said it would" .

Has the fact he made a pass leading to a goal made you miss the fact that we won?

 

[Revolution]

Anyone could have put that ball in, if Leonard wasn't playing, someone else would have, if the defence fucks it the defence fucks it.

United's plan was, and always should be, concentrate on United. We played our game, focused on our players, and got the result.

Anyone could have done that? That's speculation. Leonard did it.

Great win, good performance, showed a lot of character, but we won despite that decision.

I might add that if it was agreed at the time of the deal, fair enough. If it was agreed this week, that was a bad move. Luckily the players collectively overcame the challenge.

 

[Revolution]

A rather mardy and childlike answer from someone who didn't agree on what we did, trying to prove themselves right when they aren't.


That's what he's paid to do though isn't it? Whether he's on a loan or not. Presumably Wilder wasn't worried , and obviously Millwall had no other players on the park who could do that?

Reading some of the comments earlier in the week it was doom and gloom because of him. As I said, Wilder tends to know better and a win at Millwall today suggests that on this point he got it right unlike some running around like chickenlicken shouting "the sky is falling in, like I said it would" .

Has the fact he made a pass leading to a goal made you miss the fact that we won?

We won despite that decision, not because of it.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We won despite that decision, not because of it.

Do you realise how stupid you sound?

 

[Revolution]

Do you realise how stupid you sound?

As you see it.

We could have stopped him playing, we didn't, and he got an assist. We won anyway, great. But his presence made it harder for us, as it turned out. Insult me all you want but that's how I see it and I don't think that's an unreasonable view.

Wilder got it right today re formation and subs. He did a good job. But the decision to let Leonard play made it harder to win the game.

Again, if that was part of the transfer deal, that's fair enough. If it was a decision made this week, I think it was the wrong one.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Anyone could have done that? That's speculation. Leonard did it.

Great win, good performance, showed a lot of character, but we won despite that decision.

I might add that if it was agreed at the time of the deal, fair enough. If it was agreed this week, that was a bad move. Luckily the players collectively overcame the challenge.

And?

I'm pretty sure the league rule stipulates that the agreement has to be sorted at the time the loan is registered. Could be wrong but it's out there somewhere unless I misunderstood it.

 

[bromtom]

Anyone could have done that? That's speculation. Leonard did it.

Great win, good performance, showed a lot of character, but we won despite that decision.

I might add that if it was agreed at the time of the deal, fair enough. If it was agreed this week, that was a bad move. Luckily the players collectively overcame the challenge.

True, he did, but you can't say someone else couldn't have either.

We'll never know, but if it helped get some money in, covering the Norwood fee when added to Evans, then I'll take an assist from an ex-player.

It's totally in character for Wilder to be a good bloke and let someone get on with their career too so I wasn't surprised.

 

[Sean Thornton]

As you see it.

We could have stopped him playing, we didn't, and he got an assist. We won anyway, great. But his presence made it harder for us, as it turned out. Insult me all you want but that's how I see it and I don't think that's an unreasonable view.

Apologies for using the word stupid.

It's an odd view IMO that a carefully crafted plan would be derailed by Leonard alone And then we only won, well, why did we win? Were we lucky?

 

[Ricky]

Anyone could have put that ball in, if Leonard wasn't playing, someone else would have, if the defence fucks it the defence fucks it.

United's plan was, and always should be, concentrate on United. We played our game, focused on our players, and got the result.

Just seen the highlights. Unfortunately you're wrong. It was a decent pass. A 'genuine' assist.

 

[Revolution]

Apologies for using the word stupid.

It's an odd view IMO that a carefully crafted plan would be derailed by Leonard alone And then we only won, well, why did we win? Were we lucky?

I wouldn't say we were lucky. We were much the better side.

But I still think that if the decision was made this week to let Leonard play it was a bad decision. He helped them. I am old enough to remember the Peter Withe game (when United had little choice because of Roger Habsbury being with us). Wilder is too. He played in that game.

 

[bromtom]

Just seen the highlights. Unfortunately you're wrong. It was a decent pass. A 'genuine' assist.

Never said if wasn't a decent pass, just think there's a possibility Millwall have other players capable of playing a similar one. Good vision though.

 

[bromtom]

I wouldn't say we were lucky. We were much the better side.

But I still think that if the decision was made this week to let Leonard play it was a bad decision. He helped them. I am old enough to remember the Peter Withe game (when United had little choice because of Roger Habsbury being with us). Wilder is too. He played in that game.

He would have helped them whether he could play or not, decent knowledge of our weaknesses and styles etc you'd imagine.

 

[derfblade.3]

Wtf does it matter. We won. Hypothetical shit posting. Just something else to moan about even after a tremendous comeback.

 

[Stretch]

They might concede goals to teams that play well, and sometimes an occasional freak goal or brilliant goal might be conceded.
But we concede goals to teams that aren't playing well that just happen to have a 5 minute spell against us.

Even dead, buried, cremated, interred and gone to hell Aston Villa managed to score against us once they'd established a two minute spell.
We won't always turn games around again with a last minute winner and our best chance of ensuring that we don't concede is to not let the other team get back into games, even for a second.
It's easy for some teams to relax in games when they're doing well and winning, but we aren't one of those teams, we have to be on top from minute 1 to minute 96 because everything ends up in our net even if we drop from 100% down to 90%

I don't understand your first point. The teams I have mentioned have all conceded a similar number of goals. So are you telling me that the majority of those have all been great goals from teams playing well. Maybe but looks at some of their results.

Brentford had to come back against Reading today, and conceded 2 against Villa earlier in the season.
West Brom have lost to Bolton, and also conceded 2 today against Preston, fancy that eh, Preston.
Derby have lost to Rotherham, Bolton and you guessed it Millwall so far.

So the likes of Millwall, Bolton, Villa, Reading etc can play well against other teams and score deserved goals but against us they are just soft goals? I don't buy it. The ball also doesn't end up in the back of our net all of the time when it should. Brum and QPR will testify to that.

What I do agree with is that we shouldn't be switching off like we do in games, but that is just sound advice for any team in a very competitive league.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I wouldn't say we were lucky. We were much the better side.

But I still think that if the decision was made this week to let Leonard play it was a bad decision. He helped them. I am old enough to remember the Peter Withe game (when United had little choice because of Roger Habsbury being with us). Wilder is too. He played in that game.

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-6---players/


"During the period of any Temporary Loan Transfer, a Player shall not play against his Transferor Club without the prior written permission of the Transferor Club (which, if given, must be indicated on the appropriate Temporary Loan Transfer form)."

 

[Sean Thornton]

Wtf does it matter. We won. Hypothetical shit posting. Just something else to moan about even after a tremendous comeback.

Trying to justify bollocks Fred. Happens all the time. 3 points isn't always enough.

 

[dc_blade]

Lovely ball for the assist, but beyond that Leonard didn't even play particularly well, and the gulf in class between our midfield and Millwall's showed why we let him move on. Would've been a sickener if he'd created the winner, admittedly, but we beat them by playing the better football, not by depriving them of one of their players on a technicality.

 

[Stretch]

I can just picture the scenes in the Millwall dressing room at full time. As Lendog high fives each and every one of his team mates whilst shouting 'that showed the Northern Bastards what they are missing'

 

[Sean Thornton]

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[bromtom]

Nasty wound for Egan by the looks of it. Hope his Mrs likes scars haha

 

[sheff_blade90]

i may surprise people & i might be being over harsh. I should be happy being joint 2nd only Goal Difference stopping us. 6 wins in 8. Result nothing short of what we deserved were by far better team for majority of that game & i was pleased with the teams determination for fightback

As i say I should be happy with 3pts but at full time i was more relieved & a bit annoyed thats for 2 saturdays in a row we've been comfortable then became masters of our downfall & had to go on rescue job. All that domination undone in 5 2nd half minutes. Meaning that despite being better team we had to chase the game. Better teams wont allow us back in the game. Its like in F1 few weeks ago praising Sebastian vettel for a brilliant drive through the field to 4th. But if he had been so stupid at start of the race, he wouldnt have had to it. Looking at the goals on Twitter for all the great buildup play, we have to class ourselves grateful for the non existant marking i pointed out pre match. That i noticed when they played wednesday for mcgoldrick's winner

 

[Beans]

Possibly the fact that Peter Withe - the one who keeps getting cited as THE example of this biting us on the arse - retired 28 years ago, suggests that this wasn’t much to worry about...

 

[essexblade73]

On way home...what a day...moaners can suck a fat one

 

[FriethBlade]

Physio took a while dealing with him and straight after the clash he looked a bit unsteady on his feet. I was surprised he stayed on the pitch.