Millwall away

[1980]

As an aside - hopefully you trust me, as been posting here on and off for a while. I'm the Millwall fan who lived in Sheffield for a bit.

Anyways, the difference between the Old Den and the new place, certainly since the walkway and CCTV, is that you have to seriously look for trouble these days. At the old place it could go off anywhere and often did. I know that your hooligans actually arrange to meet ours. So, normal Blades should be fine - our lot will be with your lot somewhere, if there is a meet.

Millwall should be one of the best away days in the whole league. With Arsenal & Chelsea it is the most central London club, only a 4 minute ride from London Bridge. The pubs around Borough are decent. You can even do the Bermondsey Beer Mile (google). If you are a culture vulture then the Globe, London Eye. Tate etc. etc. are all in Southwark, and you can walk down Bermondsey Street (full of great places to eat) or get the tube to Bermondsey or Surrey Docks (Quays in yuppie speak). The Houses of Parliament are even just a short train journey away. Or you can come in from Greenwich and all that has to offer. You can go native and get a pie and mash in the Blue - if you are sensible and low key.

We let away fans sit where they like, the view is good. You are given your own walkway from the station (which overlooks the ground) and therefore avoid any silliness.

NB: The platform at South Bermondsey is quite narrow and can get packed after games, as too can the train back to London Bridge. If you hate all that or have kids, I would wait a bit at ground and then get the train - they are very regular. Or you can walk to New Cross / Bermondsey / Canada Water / Surrey Quays tube - all 15-20 minutes away.

I won't wish you luck - we need the points. I hope somehow we can finally find our shooting boots and destroy you 5-0. Or 1-0. But, have a good day out.

I also hear it is pay on the day for you lot. The Upper Tier holds 2,800 and the Lower 1,800 - so you should be fine for paying on the day.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

As an aside - hopefully you trust me, as been posting here on and off for a while. I'm the Millwall fan who lived in Sheffield for a bit.

Anyways, the difference between the Old Den and the new place, certainly since the walkway and CCTV, is that you have to seriously look for trouble these days. At the old place it could go off anywhere and often did. I know that your hooligans actually arrange to meet ours. So, normal Blades should be fine - our lot will be with your lot somewhere, if there is a meet.

Millwall should be one of the best away days in the whole league. With Arsenal & Chelsea it is the most central London club, only a 4 minute ride from London Bridge. The pubs around Borough are decent. You can even do the Bermondsey Beer Mile (google). If you are a culture vulture then the Globe, London Eye. Tate etc. etc. are all in Southwark, and you can walk down Bermondsey Street (full of great places to eat) or get the tube to Bermondsey or Surrey Docks (Quays in yuppie speak). The Houses of Parliament are even just a short train journey away. Or you can come in from Greenwich and all that has to offer. You can go native and get a pie and mash in the Blue - if you are sensible and low key.

We let away fans sit where they like, the view is good. You are given your own walkway from the station (which overlooks the ground) and therefore avoid any silliness.

NB: The platform at South Bermondsey is quite narrow and can get packed after games, as too can the train back to London Bridge. If you hate all that or have kids, I would wait a bit at ground and then get the train - they are very regular. Or you can walk to New Cross / Bermondsey / Canada Water / Surrey Quays tube - all 15-20 minutes away.

I won't wish you luck - we need the points. I hope somehow we can finally find our shooting boots and destroy you 5-0. Or 1-0. But, have a good day out.

I also hear it is pay on the day for you lot. The Upper Tier holds 2,800 and the Lower 1,800 - so you should be fine for paying on the day.

Thanks for all the information. Very good of you.

I doubt that pay on the day will be permitted. What’s to stop Harry the Dog and his mates from getting on the away end?

 

[BushBlade]

Warning. Their pie and mash comes with 'liquor' not gravy. It's a bit wrong.

 

[1980]

I doubt that pay on the day will be permitted. What’s to stop Harry the Dog and his mates from getting on the away end?

CCTV, Banning orders, lengthy prison sentences for even attempting football violence, therefore lost of job and home. Which is why they arrange meetings now.

It has been pay on the day for everyone bar Leeds. And that is to deter them from travelling - as we restrict them to top tier only. Birmingham City sold out top tier.

 

[1980]

Warning. Their pie and mash comes with 'liquor' not gravy. It's a bit wrong.

Mmmm - eel juice!

 

[1980]

Warning. Their pie and mash comes with 'liquor' not gravy. It's a bit wrong.

And as a warm-up...

 

[BushBlade]

And as a warm-up...

We eat this though;

 

[1980]

Also, if anyone of you are driving...

There is parking near(ish) the ground and given our central location it is surprisingly (maybe as most don't own a car or only have one per household), but true, that you can still find unrestricted parking.

The best place is the Bramcote Estate opposite South Bermondsey train station - but you would need to get here early.

All around Folkestone Gardens, going back towards Deptford, is free and unlimited and a ten minute walk to the ground along Surrey Canal Road.

Even some parking in Bermondsey is unlimited - around Drummond Road for example.

Google these to get postcodes.

Avoid Surrey Canal Road - road that runs along the side of the ground - as for some reason they've started enforcing restrictions.

Also, Cold Blow Lane is no longer where you will get jumped, but you may have to deal with private clampers. A few years back one clamper clamped about 30 cars and waited for the Millwall fans to return, reckoning he would get a nice load of reddies to simply release the vehicles there and then. However, what actually happened was his van was smashed to pieces, he was pinned down and the police had to escort him out of the area for his own safety, after he was ordered to unclamp every car for no charge. This appeared in the London papers under the headline 'Is this either the bravest or stupidest man in Britain?'

 

[1973Blade]

Just read on the Web page that a number of seats are being allocated to camera operatives as it is being filmed on international TV. People are advised to check what row and seat they are on. Sod's law, mine is one of them. Anyone affected can swap their seats.

 

[1980]

Every time I've been to a football match in London it's been shithouse.

Leyton Orient away FA Cup 3rd round, called off an hour before kick off...

Palace away last game of the season under Blackwell. 0-0.

Wembley matches...

Shit. House.

Technically, Palace ain't in London. Not in my book.

 

[1980]

Just read on the Web page that a number of seats are being allocated to camera operatives as it is being filmed on international TV. People are advised to check what row and seat they are on. Sod's law, mine is one of them. Anyone affected can swap their seats.

As said above - there are no seats to swap. You are allocated a block. You can sit anywhere in that block. In fact, you can sit in any block you like. We hold back a number of seats to allow us to get a safety certificate to do this.

It is because when we first moved home fans simply refused to sit in allocated sitting, rightly arguing how would they sit with mates etc., especially the few games a season lot. The police agreed it would be easier to simply do block seating.

 

[JJ Sefton]

 

[Bladeloyal]

Thanks for all the information. Very good of you.

I doubt that pay on the day will be permitted. What’s to stop Harry the Dog and his mates from getting on the away end?

Other than harry has been dead for a number of years

 

[BrentfordBlade]

As an aside - hopefully you trust me, as been posting here on and off for a while. I'm the Millwall fan who lived in Sheffield for a bit.


I also hear it is pay on the day for you lot. The Upper Tier holds 2,800 and the Lower 1,800 - so you should be fine for paying on the day.

I'm fairly local to Millwall so often go when i have a bit of free time on the weekends. I didn't realise they really ever opened up the lower tier to visiting supporters especially after the chaos that happened after Leicester last season

 

[1980]

I'm fairly local to Millwall so often go when i have a bit of free time on the weekends. I didn't realise they really ever opened up the lower tier to visiting supporters especially after the chaos that happened after Leicester last season

The lower tier is not given to away clubs when the game is a Cat C anymore - Leeds, West Ham et al.

But would still be allocated - with a restricted capacity - for lower category games.

I would imagine Villa may get it last game of season. If there is nothing on it for us. Half the teams in the division could possibly get the lower tier; truth is tho most clubs bring a lower than average following to The Den and only half fill the top tier anyway. If teams brought as many to The Den as they do to Charlton our average gates would be 800-1,000 higher.

The likes of Wolves, Norwich, Arsenal, Liverpool, Carlisle, Bristol City, Everton, Gillingham, Palace and Charlton have all been in the lower without issue.

Even West Ham and Chelsea have - altho that did result in trouble, hence the Cat C rule.

I'd imagine Saturday's game is Cat B.

 

[Feo]

The lower tier is not given to away clubs when the game is a Cat C anymore - Leeds, West Ham et al.

But would still be allocated - with a restricted capacity - for lower category games.

I would imagine Villa may get it last game of season. If there is nothing on it for us. Half the teams in the division could possibly get the lower tier; truth is tho most clubs bring a lower than average following to The Den and only half fill the top tier anyway. If teams brought as many to The Den as they do to Charlton our average gates would be 800-1,000 higher.

The likes of Wolves, Norwich, Arsenal, Liverpool, Carlisle, Bristol City, Everton, Gillingham, Palace and Charlton have all been in the lower without issue.

Even West Ham and Chelsea have - altho that did result in trouble, hence the Cat C rule.

I'd imagine Saturday's game is Cat B.

We've sold about 1,783 to date.

 

[Ricky]

If teams brought as many to The Den as they do to Charlton our average gates would be 800-1,000 higher.

That's pathetic.

 

[1980]

That's pathetic.

I think it's just down to our rep.

Take your very own club - Sheffield United are well supported home and away. Last season you took more than 4 times as many fans to Charlton than to us (3,088 to 785) even though we are easier to get to. I know other factors come into to it (how you're doing, time of year etc.) But that is a big difference.

Happens with every team...

Southend took 2,504 to the Valley; 1,381 to The Den.

Even on a small scale.. Port Vale took 423 to Charlton, 122 to us.

Northampton - 1,283 to 672.

Peterborough - 1,017 to 303.

And so on....

 

[N20 Blade]

I think it's just down to our rep.

Take your very own club - Sheffield United are well supported home and away. Last season you took more than 4 times as many fans to Charlton than to us (3,088 to 785) even though we are easier to get to. I know other factors come into to it (how you're doing, time of year etc.) But that is a big difference.

Happens with every team...

Southend took 2,504 to the Valley; 1,381 to The Den.

Even on a small scale.. Port Vale took 423 to Charlton, 122 to us.

Northampton - 1,283 to 672.

Peterborough - 1,017 to 303.

And so on....

Really good point, cheers for your info and insights; all the best after Saturday.

 

[Pedro Verde]

I think it's just down to our rep.

Never bothered me and Ive been going to Millwall since the mid / late 70s

 

[super_pig]

We don't have allocated seats in the stands behind the goals. You buy a block tock and you can sit anywhere you like in that block. This allows people to sit with mates etc.

Every Blade will be able to sit with whoever they want to in a block. And even then, we are not that strict about the block. The club had to agree to hold back 500 seats in each stand to allow this - so as to stop any overcrowding issues.

love this idea

 

[super_pig]

Thanks for all the information. Very good of you.

I doubt that pay on the day will be permitted. What’s to stop Harry the Dog and his mates from getting on the away end?

i think Harry passed

 

[blackydog]

Have you tried Kaz's?

Kaz's ??? SM. what's dat? As i said don't do many aways.

 

[Small Mendonca]

Kaz's ??? SM. what's dat? As i said don't do many aways.

I’ll PM you.

 

[Bladeloyal]

To be fair nearly 2000 to the wall is a decent following ,there won't be many women and kids doing the trip like most matches ,its probably the most we've ever took there .

 

[1980]

love this idea

Yes, whenever I take mates who support other clubs to The Den they are always pleasantly surprised to find out that we won't have to be argueing with the stewards or other fans about sitting together because of some silly seat number rule. Credit to the club, they put this in place almost straight after moving in 1993 - I think they & the police realised it would be a losing battle trying to get Millwall fans, used to standing where they liked with family & friends for decades, to all sit like good little boys and girls in exactly the correct seat number.

Although, I was shocked to find out from a Watford supporting mate that they even sit in the correct seats for away games - after I asked him what the hell he was doing at Wycombe away once, when he was telling a few Wall fans that they were in 'his' seat. They looked at him like he had lost his mind. I explained that at Millwall away games it's literally first come, first served - want a good view? Better get there early and stake it out! However, that's Watford fans for you - I'd imagine Palace, Charlton and Reading are the same!

 

[1980]

To be fair nearly 2000 to the wall is a decent following ,there won't be many women and kids doing the trip like most matches ,its probably the most we've ever took there .

Very decent - like I said, many do not travel to us. You will be one of the higher turn-outs this season I imagine.

The mighty Sheffield Wednesday bring c.1,000 for Tuesday night games. We keep playing them on Tuesdays for some reason.

The last time they came to The Den on a Saturday was 2006, for a pretty important relegation 6 pointer in February. They brought 1,446.

In 2002 they came to the 'new' Den for the very first time in the league (usually when a big turn out happens) & brought 1,112 on a Saturday. In comparison we took 1,352 to them just before Christmas.

 

[JPBrods]

Went to The Den season for the first time. About 600 Blades down there for a nice and sunny day in the capital but with an utterly shite result. 90th minute pen, bottom of the league.
It'll be a bit busier this time I'm sure. There was no trouble last time just because there wasn't many Blades there an no-one was in a fighting mood, just a wrist slitting mood. Hope it's a nice clean 0-1 win with no controversy.

 

[N20 Blade]

Very decent - like I said, many do not travel to us. You will be one of the higher turn-outs this season I imagine.

The mighty Sheffield Wednesday bring c.1,000 for Tuesday night games. We keep playing them on Tuesdays for some reason.

The last time they came to The Den on a Saturday was 2006, for a pretty important relegation 6 pointer in February. They brought 1,446.

In 2002 they came to the 'new' Den for the very first time in the league (usually when a big turn out happens) & brought 1,112 on a Saturday. In comparison we took 1,352 to them just before Christmas.

Is it hard getting to Millwall away games, do the home clubs impose lots of restrictions on how the tickets are sold? I always get the impression you have quite strong hard core support. How many did you take to Fulham last weekend? Did they open the neutral end for you?

 

[I should coco]

In 2002 they came to the 'new' Den for the very first time in the league (usually when a big turn out happens) & brought 1,112 on a Saturday.

I think you have missed a coupl of zeros of that.

Everybody knows how massive Wendy are and it is well known fact that they take at least 10k everywhere. If the gate was about 9,000 I'd expect at least 11,000 of them to be our deluded city rivals.